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It would be a shame, though, if Tennessee ignored the need to season the mix with some pragmatism. Black cat, white cat ... Leach still catches mice, and if Tennessee doesn't nab him this year, someone else eventually will. Winning is a fundamental that never goes out of style, and one that wins over even the most hardened skeptic.

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Someday people outside of Knoxville will understand that Leach is indeed on UT’s short wish-list for coaches – and that among the people who actually make these decisions. That doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll get hired if he’s willing, but it does mean that the idea that Tennessee is too stuffy for him is not as certain as the stereotype suggests.

From Orson, I understand; he get a lot of mileage out of poking fun at East Tennessee. Doc is another story.

Ah, well.

by David Hooper on Nov 21, 2008 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

I really should be fair to Orson, though.

I honestly think he wants Leach at Tennessee as much as many of us do.

by David Hooper on Nov 21, 2008 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

He does and he doesn't

The idea scares him to death as a Florida fan, and the idea of being scared of Tennessee again thrills him because he’d like his adversaries to be worthy.

I think the criticism is rooted in the anticipation that in the end the decision makers will indeed make a traditional choice mostly because it’s the traditional choice and not because it has the best and biggest upside. Perhaps it’s just been the football program under Fulmer that looks primarily to the “risk” part of the risk/reward analysis and seeks to minimize that at all costs including a possibly bigger reward, but it’s also possible that it’s systemic in the administration as well. What do we have to point to to believe otherwise at this point?

I believe that Leach is on the short list, but I also fear that in the end we’ll go with the traditional for the sake of tradition. And remember, I am at heart a traditionalist, but like Tevye, if you’re holding on to a tradition and can’t say why, you’ve got a potential problem. Why? I’ll tell you why. I don’t know.

The sad thing is that Hamilton and the rest of the decision makers might in fact choose someone other than Leach for very good and appropriate reasons and that even if they do, the rest of the nation will continue to view Tennessee as they do now despite the subsequent enumeration of those valid reasons. Can’t really win there.

I think Leach has the best resume. If they don’t hire him for some good reason and get somebody else better, great, but if they don’t hire him only because he’s quirky, that would be a huge mistake in my view. And until I’m somehow convinced otherwise, I’ll continue to fear that they’ll do just that.

Go Vols!

by Joel Hollingsworth on Nov 22, 2008 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll be honest.

I think the primary reason Leach wouldn’t end up here is because he wants to stay put. I also think that’s why Kelly is perceived by some as the front-runner. He would be much easier to draw over to Knoxville – well, at least as far as anybody can guess right now.

And I would guess that the primary reason Orson would like Leach at UT is entertainment. With him in the SEC, the conference would be absolutely fascinating.

by David Hooper on Nov 22, 2008 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep, that would probably explain most of it. Although I do think that Tech is perceived as a lower-level job than UT and that that might be a reason he would be attracted to it. But there’s definitely something to be said for building your own expectations.

Go Vols!

by Joel Hollingsworth on Nov 22, 2008 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

BIG DOG !!

I want a big dog that chases cars, that pees on shurbs and scares the HECk out of little cats and tigers ! That seats on the front porch and growls at door to door salesmen. I want a dog I can pat on the head and say good boy. The abilty to fetch beer is and option ! Give me my BIG DOG !

Phil,GO VOLS !!!

by bulldurham on Nov 22, 2008 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

Winning Cures Everything

One point that Orson makes in his post is that the three innovative offenses that he brings up, Texas Tech, Georgia Tech, and Florida all have taken a very old offensive scheme and have altered it to update it. He also explains that all three coaches are sticklers for execution. They get the details right and they practice them all the time.

At this point I am convinced that Tennessee will not get Leach, and they will use as an excuse his personality quirks. They will say that he wouldn’t mesh well with the boosters because he’s weird. My response to that is that Coach Pearl is weird, but maybe we didn’t know about it before he got here. A U. of Tenn. coach with his shirt off at a basketball game and painted in orange? Has ANYTHING like that ever happened at Tennessee before?

My point is the same as Orson’s. Winning cures the common cold. It cures everything, it smoothes over personality quirks. That is what Coach Pearl has done at Tennessee. Win, and he is abolutely beloved for it. He could have gone to Indiana, but chose to stay. Maybe Leach will use the same reasoning to stay at Texas Tech.

I personally don’t care if he loves pirates as long as he’s winning games. To use another metaphor, I want Hamilton to swing for the fences, and not just try a suicide squeeze.

by Colonel Corn on Nov 22, 2008 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

If UT uses the personality quirks as an excuse for not getting Leach,

they will lose a LOT of enthusiasm – particularly from the younger fans. The last thing that UT needs to do right now is look like they’re holding onto a stodgy concept of football.

I could see UT doing that, even if it’s not the actual reason for not hiring Leach. It’s very convenient to say “we didn’t choose him because xxx” rather than to say “he didn’t choose us because yyy”. Even if yyy is “Family likes current location” or “Allergies to East Tennessee” or whatever you can think of that’s a legitimate, non-footballish reason, most executives would rather act like they made the decision.

by David Hooper on Nov 22, 2008 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

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