Are the Georgia Bulldogs overrated?
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College football pundits, emerging sluggishly from their hibernation and with their pupils still adjusting to the sun, are already uttering bold predictions for the coming season. What are they saying?
Woof! Woof! Woof!
According to Lindy's, the Georgia Bulldogs are preseason No. 1. Georgia appears to be the first team that SMQ addressed in his excellent Contenders series. Athlon and Football Time have the Dawgs ranked No. 5, and even my local paper is mentioning the Red and Black as a preseason favorite to win the national championship.
Really? Well, with apologies to my friends in the Bulldog football blogosphere, I'm just not seeing it.
Most-Cited Reasons for Georgia's Preseason National Championship Hype
Momentum
The argument goes . . . no team finished the 2007 season on a more convincing run than did Georgia. The Bulldogs, after losing two of their first six (to South Carolina and Tennessee), and after barely beating Vanderbilt 20-17, rode the much-publicized entire-team-on-the-field celebration penalty against Florida not only to a convincing win over the Gators but to a seven game winning streak. During that time, they averaged almost 38 points per game, including absolute thumpers against Auburn in their black jerseys and Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl.
Yeah, but . . . look at who they beat in those seven games: Florida (9-4), Troy (8-4), Auburn (9-4), Kentucky (8-5), Georgia Tech (7-6), and Hawaii (12-1). And about Hawaii, no offense to the Warriors and their mid-major brethren, but Boise state beating Oklahoma in 2006 doesn't necessarily legitimate the mandatory BCS invite to a token non-BCS school. Also, Georgia had a loss to South Carolina (6-6) and an embarrassing 14-35 loss to Tennessee, who was 10-4 on the year, but who got toasted by Cal, Florida, and Alabama. So yeah, hurrah for the momentum and the streak and everything, but let's not get carried away.
| UGA | OPP | |||
| 09/01/07 | Oklahoma St. | 35 | 14 | |
| 09/08/07 | South Carolina | 12 | 16 | |
| 09/15/07 | Western Caro. | 45 | 16 | |
| 09/22/07 | Alabama | 26 | 23 | OT |
| 09/29/07 | Mississippi | 45 | 17 | |
| 10/06/07 | Tennessee | 14 | 35 | |
| 10/13/07 | Vanderbilt | 20 | 17 | |
| 10/27/07 | Florida | 42 | 30 | |
| 11/03/07 | Troy | 44 | 34 | |
| 11/10/07 | Auburn | 45 | 20 | |
| 11/17/07 | Kentucky | 24 | 13 | |
| 11/24/07 | Georgia Tech | 31 | 17 | |
| 01/01/08 | Hawaii | 41 | 10 |
Experience
The argument goes . . . Georgia returns (depending on who you're reading) 14 (or up to 17) of 22 starters from the 2007 team that finished on the aforementioned roll. This includes 7 (or 8) from the offense, most notably quarterback Matthew Stafford and running back and SEC Freshman of the Year Knowshon Moreno. Even more importantly, 7 (or 8 or 9) starters return from the defense that was one of two in the nation (the other being National Champion LSU) to finish in the top three of total defense, run defense, and scoring defense.
Yeah, but . . . Knowshon Moreno was indeed 30th in the nation in rushing and second in the conference only to Darren McFadden, but against lowly Tennessee (69th in the nation and 9th (!) in the league against the rush), he and the rest of Georgia running backs managed only 69 net yards the entire game. I'm telling you, that is pitiful against our run defense of last year.
And the defense, yeah, it was good, but I'm not sure where Lindy's got that "one of two in the nation to finish in the top three of total defense, run defense, and scoring defense" thing, either, because the official NCAA page has Georgia ranked 14th, 16th, and 18th respectively. Good, but not really even in the vicinity of the top three.
And Matthew Stafford? The mag dudes seem to be putting a lot of stock in Stafford's potential rather than his actual performance to date. Stafford was 56th in the nation (4th in the conference) in passing efficiency and 74th in the nation (6th in the conference) in total offense.
And what about the positions that aren't filled by returning starters? Like kicker Brandon Coutu? And the center? Dawg fans, remember when Coutu missed seven games in 2006? You know, the year when you lost to both Vanderbilt and Kentucky? Yeah, well, Coutu's gone, and who's going to take his place? Incoming freshman Blair Walsh and "several" walk-ons. That can't be good.
Schedule
The argument goes . . . the Bulldogs' brutal schedule provides nothing but opportunity. When they play on the road against the likes of South Carolina, Arizona State, LSU, and Auburn, at home against Alabama and Tennessee, and at Jacksonville against Florida, no one can question the superiority of their schedule. Should they win them all, they'll be No. 1 regardless of whether anyone else goes undefeated. They could even, like LSU last year, lose a couple and still make it to the National Championship Game.
Yeah, but . . . at LSU? At Auburn and against Florida in a grudge match? At Arizona State early? Games against South Carolina, Alabama, and Tennessee? There's at least one loss in there, and if you think a team will sneak into The Game with two losses this year, then you're just betting on further annihilation and frequent trips to the Vietnamese Boathouse.
| DATE | OPPONENT | Lindy's | Athlon | Football Time | |
| August 30 | Georgia Southern | ||||
| September 6 | Central Michigan | 67 |
62 |
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| September 13 | at South Carolina | 27 |
34 |
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| September 20 | at Arizona State | 14 |
15 |
20 |
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| September 27 | Alabama | 20 |
30 |
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| October 11 | Tennessee | 24 |
17 |
13 |
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| October 18 | Vanderbilt | 78 |
73 |
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| October 25 | at LSU | 7 |
9 |
9 |
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| November 1 | Florida | 6 |
1 |
2 |
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| November 8 | at Kentucky | 63 |
58 |
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| November 15 | at Auburn | 13 |
8 |
7 |
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| November 29 | Georgia Tech | 58 |
56 |
Look, Georgia is going to have a great team this year. Better than Tennessee. Better than anyone in the East except for perhaps Florida. But No. 1 in the nation? No. Sorry. Not buying it. Not yet.
[Note by Joel, 06/06/08 9:02 AM EDT ] Will Overstreet strenuously agrees.
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Ssssssshhhhhhh
Why’d you have to go and bring their expectations down to a reasonable level? The bigger the expectations, the further they’ll fall, and the more fun it will be to watch.
"Florida didnt win their first SEC title until 1991 and now they think they invented football."
-Ron Zook
by rustytanton on Jun 2, 2008 7:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why the knock on Georgia's second-half schedule?
Let’s recap:
Florida (9-4) - defending national champions who beat Tennessee by 39 earlier in the year.
Troy (8-4) - won a share of the Sun Belt title; averaged 34 points a game.
Auburn (9-4) - finished second in the SEC West; we beat them by 25.
Kentucky (8-5) - y’all needed four overtimes to put them away; in regulation, we held them to their lowest point total of the season.
Georgia Tech (7-6) - OK, yeah, they suck.
Hawaii (12-1) - overrated, yes, but the fact remains nobody beat them but us, and we held their supposedly amazing offense to 36 points below their season average.
Look, there are plenty of arguments to be made that Georgia shouldn’t be the preseason #1; I don’t even plan on ranking them #1 in my first BlogPoll ballot. But a so-so second-half schedule from 2007 isn’t one of them.
by Doug G. on Jun 2, 2008 7:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but . . .
Florida as defending national champ—that was the prior year, and beating us by 39 (thanks for bringing that up!) just means that we were pretty bad. I’m not saying Tennessee’s better than Georgia; they aren’t. Just that I don’t understand GA being the favorite to win it all this year. And . . . if FL is great because they beat us, what does that make us with respect to GA?
Sun Belt title? Doesn’t that prove the point? ;-)
KY. No question GA did better against them than Tennessee did. But still—8-5. They were all over the place, from beating LSU to losing to losing to Mississippi State.
Hawaii—yes, nobody beat them but GA, but you were the only real team to play them.
Actually, I think we agree. Georgia is going to be very good, possibly great this year. NC? I just don’t think so.
;-)
Go Vols!
by Joel on Jun 2, 2008 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course you're "not seeing it"
After what UT did to UGA last year, you’re not expected to “see it.”
As for ranking us preseason 1, I think it’s reasonable if you’re ranking based on where teams are right now. If you’re ranking based on where you think we’ll end up, then probably that’s too high. Because that takes into account the schedule. Which is prohibitive to #1 post-season ranking.
As for Stafford…
1. His completion percentage. If he ups it from 55 to 62 percent, that only nets him 21 more completions on the season. Or 1.6 more per game.
2. His efficiency rating. That’s driven by TD passes. We don’t ask him to throw it into the endzone as often as other teams. We had a staggering 32 rushing TDs last year, and one of the best redzone offenses in the country. His number is deceivingly low vs the offensive production of the team.
As for the “grudge match” stuff on the schedule.
Auburn had an entire season to be pissed about the 2006 game. A lot of good it did them.
Florida had 55 minutes to be pissed about The Celebration. A lot of good it did them.
The season comes down to:
1. Can UGA find a deep threat WR?
2. Can the young OL replace Velasco’s leadership?
3. Can key personnel stay healthy?
I’ll take those questions over those facing most of our competitors.
BTW—I think Willie Martinez paid about $100k of Cutcliffe’s first year salary at Duke to get him the hell out of Knoxville.
by Paulwesterdawg on Jun 2, 2008 8:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah, good points
Especially about the red zone offense. And despite the fact that Tennessee stopped the Bulldogs’ running game, I’m petrified of Moreno. And it sounds like the team is really developing some great chemistry.
Really looking forward to finding out how the season will play out.
Go Vols!
by Joel on Jun 2, 2008 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The schedule argument comes down to only one thing:
expectation of consistency.
If UGA has a good and consistent team, they have a real shot at 0-2 losses on the year. they do have the talent to run with everybody on that sched, but it’ll come down to whether they show up every week.
I tend to feel they’ll “underperform” only because I tend to feel that way about all teams rated that high by preseason writeups. It’s very unlikely that you’ll guess the team that has the chemistry to make everything work for a given year so the top 3-4 often fall out of contention and it’s easaier to look smart by betting against those preseason horses.
But UGA will be one of the better ones. They may even be able to break the top 10 with 3 losses, if they’re to early and not embarrassing. This could very well be the year where UF, UGA and UT all knock each other out of the MNC and finally allow OSU to play a non-SEC team.
by Hooper on Jun 2, 2008 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Overrated
Why? Because I said so; that’s why!
I’ll buy the experience on the roster and I’ll buy the strength of schedule. However, the belief that last year’s momentum will carry forward to this season is plain silly. Just look back to UT’s 2004 and 2005 seasons. Each of these same arguments were applied in UT’s 2005 preseason (based off of 2004’s campaign) and we were expected to be a MNC contender. We all know how THAT turned out. What happens the preceding year is rarely a predictor of success (or failure) in subsequent years. (Also, see: UT’s 1997 and 1998 seasons).
by Aerobab on Jun 2, 2008 9:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember Tennessee's #3 Preseason ranking?
And “the season of which we do not speak”? Yeah, here’s hoping that happens to Georgia. Man, I even hate typing Georgia.
by VolBrian on Jun 2, 2008 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good argument Joel
but UGA is legit this year. Granted thety still have to play the games and still have to get the job done, but who in college football is better than them? LSU? Ohio State? USC? Florida? Oklahoma? I just can’t think of a team that has that much talent, experience, and quality of head coach. Yeah the schedule will be tough, like every year for every SEC team, yes there will be injuries and bad luck, but Georgia is going to a great team this year. And you gotta put 2 teams in the NC game, so if not Georgia, who?
Plus, more attention to UGA and FLA and of course the mandatory attention to “the ole ball coach” means less attention to Tennessee, and when out of the spotlight, Tennessee shows up.
by Volorado on Jun 2, 2008 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GOOD TOPIC...JUST ANOTHER OPINION HERE.
MOMENTUM IS NEVER HARD TO GAUGE JUST HARD TO MAINTAIN, especially over the spring / summer time frame. SO GEORGIA’S MOMENTUM IS A NON-FACTOR.
WHAT IS A FACTOR IS THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY WILL HAVE FOR THEMSELVES. EVERYONE AND THEIR “DAWG” IS PICKIN’ ‘EM TO DO VERY WELL.
THEY HAVE A BRUTAL SCHEDULE!! IF THEY HAVE TO LOSE ONE AND WANT TO STILL VIE FOR THE NAT’L TITLE THEY’LL NEED TO LOSE IT EARLY. I SEE THE PIVOTAL GAME BEING AGAINST THE SUN DEVILS OF ASU. IF THEY LOSE TO THEM AT ASU (WHICH WILL BE DARN GOOD W/ERICKSON AS THE COACH) THEY CAN STILL WIN THE SEC EAST AND THEN WIN THE SEC OUTRIGHT (WHICH WILL BE HARD) AND THAT ALONE W/ONLY ONE LOSS (TO ASU) CAN PUT THEM IN THE TITLE GAME.
I AGREE W/AN EARLIER POST. TWO LOSSES THIS YEAR AIN’T GONNA EARN YOU A SPOT IN THE BIG GAME. I EXPECT THIS YEAR TO BE A COMPLETE 180 FROM LAST YEAR. YES PARODY WILL BE THE MANTRA TO THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL SEASON HOWEVER I THINK TWO TEAMS WILL TRULY STAND OUT AND CONTEND FOR THE TITLE.
by LOUtheMETandNATSfan on Jun 2, 2008 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess it's true what they say......
New Yorkers are loud.
by VolBrian on Jun 2, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I 100% agree with Joel on this one. Georgia has a boatload of talent, but they are getting credit for beating some solid (not great) teams.
They STILL have no proven studs at wide receiver, still need to improve on the offensive line (and lost some OL to graduation), and still, IN TRUTH, need better play from Matthew Stafford, the most overrated QB in the country right now.
by The Power T on Jun 2, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Right on the money
Regarding Stafford, I’m still waiting to see why he gets so much hype. Maybe its all those keg lifts and hanging out with orange clad co-eds.
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by Getoffmyvols on Jun 2, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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