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Ease up on the D folks...

I know there have been a lot of folks absolutely killing  the D's perfornamce in the game and calling for Chavis' head .....

However, IMO, I don't think the defense and defensive staff deserves all the hate that they have been getting.  Yes, obviously that final UCLA drive in the fourth quarter was hard to stomach from our standpoint.  But if you were going to grade the defense you would have to give them pretty high marks.  Consider:

1. The D didn't give up that first UCLA touchdown. 
2. Don't blame the D for the offense's complete inability to capitalize on 3 first half turnovers.   Look at this way, the defense scored more points off turnovers (TD INT return) than the offense (0 points on 3 INTS).
3. Less than 1 yard NET RUSHING!!!  UCLA gained .9 yards.  Sorry, folks, but that is a ridiculous stat.  Not one UCLA player gained more than 14 yards on the ground.
4. Blaming Slade?  You can't be too hard on a guy who's unit picked the ball off four times.
5. Did I mention 4 picks?

Several comments in other posts mentioned that because this is Clawsen's first game the offense will get some passes in the first half of the season.  That is not right!  I don't think that you can give the offense a pass on this.  Why should the offense get a pass?  Didn't UCLA have a new coordinator?  Wasn't he able to adjust?  Why couldn't our staff do the same?  Norm Chow got fleeced in the first half.  He didn't panic, he adjusted, he coached up his struggling quarterback, and he turned in a solid second half (Not spectactular, just impressive because of the complete turnaround from the first half.)

The Defense did everything they could to hold UCLA to 17 points in regulation and a field goal in OT.  Since when is that a bad performance?  Sure it was night and day in terms of the secondary's effectiveness against Craft between the two halfs.  But the offense has got to do something to help the D out.  Like converting some of those 9 three and outs.  Like putting Lincoln in a good position to kick high probability field goals (albeit that last one hurt my soul). 

If you like, be forgiving of the new offense and coordinator.  I don't have a problem with that.  But, please keep it in perspective when you decide to take your anger out on the D.  Because its misplaced.

This game was frustrating because we were so close.  Consider that if somebody had picked up that gunner and protected Cunningham, or, if you like, we put Lincoln ten yards closer to make a 50+ long shot a manageable 40 yard attempt, we would not be talking about how terrible the defense was.  We would be talking about a lights out front four and linebacking corps that held UCLA to nothing on the ground.  We would be talking about a secondary that lost some of its intensity and gave up some big plays in the second half, but was still able to put the game out of reach by only allowing a field goal in the first three quarters of the game. 

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That'd be me, wouldn't it?

I fully agree that the D did a lot of terrific things on Labor Day. In fact, the D had such a terrific 1st half that UCLA was reduced to half a dimension (passing game, but no long passes whatsoever). When they did try to run from inside their own 10-yard line, they very nearly (read: probably did) give up a safety and were spared only by an offside call. That’s why I’m optimistic about the defense. UCLA was decimated on offense, certainly, but the performance was still remarkable and the players did a fantastic job of playing their roles. Heck, we didn’t even need the linebackers to worry about the run; the front four had that completely sewn up on their own.

The only gripe I’d have on D is the playcalling in the second half. Once everybody knew that UCLA only had one page left in the playbook, we should have worked to shut that down too. I wanted to see UT at least attempt to take away the short inside routes. If they had been burned on a long pass as a result, I would have been much happier. But I get scared when a team does one thing over and over again, and we never pick up on it. On the defensive side, that’s the only thing I worry about. If we’d quit throwing paper against Edward Scissorhands, I’d have no fears about the defense (even if we’d still lost).

I’m also guilty to your charge of giving a pass on the offense. The difference (to me) was that the offensive troubles weren’t entirely fixable through playcalling. Crompton was too comfortable in the pocket, held the ball too long, and ended up throwing under pressure too much. A part of that was probably the green practice jersey, a part was Crompton, and a part was that the coaching staff didn’t address that habit well enough. But unlike the D, that was a new starting QB in a new system with a new coordinator, and those things are sometimes a surprise to everybody. I don’t know, so I’ll wait on it.

The playcalling is more suspect on O. I’m guessing it was because of the blitz packages that UCLA used, but Clawson really seemed to shy away from the run in the second half. But we were running so well to the outside that it seemed odd not to use it. I’ll agree with you on that.

I’ll also agree about Slade. Unless he was telling his secondary to play 10 yards off on a 3rd and 5, there’s nothing to complain about there.

All in all, I hope that the message in my posts has been this: that UT has the makings of an excellent team, and with the right adjustments, we can see them go from that shocker to world-beaters. Text-only communication tends to make things sound nastier than intended, but I hope I sounded optimistic. I’ve never been in the “off with their heads camp”. (For example, I think Chavis made a mistake in his playcalling, but it doesn’t mean I think he’s worthless. If I did, I’d be posting my opinion on GVX.)

(Nitpick: 0.9 yards per rush for 29 yards net. Doesn’t change how phenomenal it was, especially since we only had one sack for 9 yards, resulting in 38 net non-sack rushing yards on 30 non-sack carries.)

Great write-up, by the way. +1 recommend.

by Hooper on Sep 10, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks Hooper

Yeah my bad on .9 net yards. I got caught looking at the wrong stat on the box score. Guess I saw .9 and started getting light headed with glee.

And I wasn’t directing this post at you——a lot of people I’ve talked are only thinking about the Defense’s second half performance as the sole reason for the loss. And I’m not even trying to say that I was giving up on the offense at this early stage. I just felt obliged to speak up after everybody at my work kept talking to how woeful our D is. I agree with everybody else that the defensive playcalling philosophy in the second half failed to address the medium to short range routes. I just don’t want that shortcoming to take away the effort and shutdown performance that the D put in for 75% of the game with absolutely minimal help from the offense. I guess the word of the day for that game is FINISH.

Someday we'll look back on this and plow into a parked car.

by MeytonPanning on Sep 10, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for speaking up.

It needed to be said, and you put it as well as anybody could have.

Tangent: Didn’t you post on here before the upgrade of SBNation? I thought for sure that I’d read your comments before, but your profile shows you joining only recently. I be confused…

Oh, and your signature quote is hilarious. :-D

by Hooper on Sep 10, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

SBNation

I had an account with RTT prior to the migration to SBNation. I went to Europe after the basketball season and came back this summer and I hadn’t checked back in a while but when I saw the new digs I figured it was time to come back to the place that brought me “TRADITION!” and the Animated BlogPoll. I guess the hosting format for the last version of RTT didn’t “migrate” my rants…. That and I don’t think I posted a lot anyways. In fact I can only remember posting about how I detest Adidas. And yet 47% of my wardrobe is orange and has that silly stair logo on it. Life is funny like that.

Someday we'll look back on this and plow into a parked car.

by MeytonPanning on Sep 10, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

Well, welcome back, even if it is a bit belated. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t losing my mind. Glad your travels went safely (so far as I can tell).

by Hooper on Sep 10, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

credit due

without a doubt, Chavis has proven he is apt in defensive coaching, and i am certain of the talent of our D-line, linebackers, and secondary. we just seem to have fallen into that “prevent” mode, too early,too often. where is the intensity that Big Orange (and the SEC) is known for, feared for? we have the knowledge, we have the skill. let us use both for 60 minutes! and yes, that goes for the offense, as well. GIVE ’EM HELL, TENNESSEE!

by thetennesseethumper on Sep 10, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess I see it differently

The D played great …. until it mattered. Then they went into the patented John Chavis Prevent Defense (following the equally stupid “pooch” kickoff which guarantees the opposing team great field position) and lost the game. I’ve seen it before, usually it’s against a team that is better than UT. Sadly, it’s now metastasized against teams we are favored to beat.

Here’s what I saw on my TV, a 3rd string QB took his team 70 yards down the field with 1:54 left in the game. There were no Eli Manning to David Tyree type plays. It was easy. It was so easy for him he had 0:27 to spare when he threw the TD pass.

Here’s how he did it:

1st and 10 at UCLA 30 Kevin Craft pass complete to Taylor Embree for 21 yards to the Tenn 49 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at TENN 49 Kevin Craft pass complete to Ryan Moya for 9 yards to the Tenn 40.
2nd and 1 at TENN 40 Kevin Craft pass incomplete to Dominique Johnson.
3rd and 1 at TENN 40 Kevin Craft rush for 2 yards to the Tenn 38 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at TENN 38 Kevin Craft pass complete to Ryan Moya for 9 yards to the Tenn 29.
2nd and 1 at TENN 29 Timeout Ucla, clock 00:49.
2nd and 1 at TENN 29 Kevin Craft pass complete to Dominique Johnson for 18 yards to the Tenn 11 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at TENN 11 Timeout TENNESSEE, clock 00:44.
1st and 10 at TENN 11 Kevin Craft pass complete to Ryan Moya for 8 yards to the Tenn 3.
2nd and 2 at TENN 3 Timeout Ucla, clock 00:35.
2nd and 2 at TENN 3 Kevin Craft pass incomplete to Ryan Moya.
3rd and 2 at TENN 3 Kevin Craft pass complete to Ryan Moya for 3 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.

When you pass for 21 yards, 9 yards, 9 yards, 18 yards, 8 yards, and 3 yards at crunch time, a 0.9 yards/rush average doesn’t hurt much.

by wvvol on Sep 11, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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