Tennessee Volunteers vs. Florida Gators: 2nd half open game thread
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
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PrintExtra large hole despite being ahead in everything but the score and turnovers. P.S. Don't punt to Brandon James in the second half. Better yet. Don't punt.
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107
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54
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58
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Hey guys
Cal fan here; how much of this deficit is on the players and how much of it is on the coaches?
Good question
Much is attributable to special teams breakdowns. Put that on the coaches. Put the fumble in the red zone on the players. I’d say 50/50 players/coaches. What do y’all think?
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that's a fair assessment, given what I've seen
"You're Dixie's Football Pride, Crimson Tide - Roll Tide, Roll Tide!"
by Whistlin' Dixie on Sep 20, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Id agree
just based on initial observations. Maybe a bit more on the coaches, I dont some of the defensive playcalling (like the total lack of blitz on 3rd and 13…).
Ah ok
VolNation wants the entire coaching staff fired. Right now.
Smokey for HC!
by BearsNecessity on Sep 20, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Love the pic!
And yeah, don’t bother reading Knoxville editorials for the next week.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Florida offense has done little
D has looked pretty good. Offensive scheme is outdated and a joke. I put much of the blame on our scheme and preparation.
Cannons... fire them.
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New plan
G Gun at least half the time. The rest of the time is split between Hardesty and Creer.
Biggest problem is figuring out who to get into the end zone when we get close. The best-defense-is-a-time-consuming-offense is working. Just no points.
And don’t punt to anyone in blue.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
Yarrr!
Argh. Aii. Oy. Ugh.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And yesterday was Talk Like A Pirate Day.
One day too early for a lot of fun.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss that every year
Somebody needs to send me a reminder.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html
"You're Dixie's Football Pride, Crimson Tide - Roll Tide, Roll Tide!"
by Whistlin' Dixie on Sep 20, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
At least...
the band is performing well ;) (Sorry, had to throw that one out there!)
"You're Dixie's Football Pride, Crimson Tide - Roll Tide, Roll Tide!"
by Whistlin' Dixie on Sep 20, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
Just so y'all know . . .
I have resolved to be either positive or silent in the second half. At least with respect to our own team.
So here’s some positive. We’re moving the ball. They scored a bunch of points quickly, but not much after that. We could get on a roll.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
probably a wise strategy
there’s no need for us to raise our blood pressure too much
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
They said fans are leaving
With any luck Murphy was just trying to get them out of Neyland so they feel bad about missing a great comeback.
Call me an eternal optimist.
Theory
I never leave games early. The worse it looks, the more remarkable the comeback if it happens. You wouldn’t want to miss that.
And besides, how many plays do we get to see each year?
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a good sign
Creer starts? Is Fulmer that ticked off? That would be good.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions
no coach goes for a 4th and 6
they don’t want to look bad
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
what's there to lose?
whoshotwhointhewhatnow?
by thetennesseethumper on Sep 20, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
From the Department of Ill-Timed Things
Lawvol posted that they brought out Pearl and Summitt during halftime.
OH!
Oh, close. That would have been fantastic if that was a lateral that we recovered.
Alas.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions
YES!
Berry downs Tebow. Three and out for FL.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions
Asking who ALMOST won back-to-back Heismans
is kinda like asking if you ALMOST got the job you interviewed for.
Name the team who almost scored 2 TDs in the first half?
Had to make an exception for the sake of humor.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that Rocky Top?
I hear Rocky Top. First time?
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions
They've played it before.
But I’m glad to hear the crowd still singing it.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
of course after a big defensive series their punter booms a 300 yard punt
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
GO YES NO
26-yard run, hold.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions
There's no sense in Fulmer yelling at the team anymore.
At this point in time, it’s no longer a motivational issue.
But if he doesn't
he will absolutely blow.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
They are SHAMELESSLY plugging Tebow
Shamelessly. My God… anyone hear Danielson say Tennessee fans “had no heart for this game.”? That’s unprofessional and biased. May he get a terrible skin rash and become a hermit.
Cannons... fire them.
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If that whole thing about there being no leaders is true
It’s time for Berry to forget that he’s a sophomore. He just needs to take the reigns of this team.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply actions
Great. More Tebow love.
Game. Over.
Cannons... fire them.
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put a fork in it
good night, everybody
whoshotwhointhewhatnow?
by thetennesseethumper on Sep 20, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
That was a good defensive call, I think
We needed to blitz him. TT just beat us.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
Interesting stats
both teams have 155 yards of offense.
UT ran 39 plays; Florida ran 35 (so far)
ToP: UT 21:12 UF 19:19
penalties UT 7/70; UF 7/44
turnovers UT 3 UF 0
No. The game IS over.
The new clock rules will allow Florida to run the clock out. They may need only 1 first down to kill the clock before anybody could score 4 TDs. The new rules do make game endings far less dramatic.
I give Crompton this much.
He WANTS it. Mistakes and all, he’s still trying to get SOMETHING out of it.
That's not much.
He can want it, but he doesn’t have it. Of course, we don’t know if he has it, because Tennessee appears adverse to spreading out and throwing the ball down the field and, more specifically, in the middle of the field.
Cannons... fire them.
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I think Crompton deserved that.
Picking up the first down, that is, not getting jacked up.
by dawgdayafternoon on Sep 20, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions
Repercussions?
Even the optimist that I am, I have little hope for the end of the game…
What will the repercussions of this be? Will we be more motivated following this or just totally deflated?
Auburn doesn't have as good an offense
so it’ll probably be something like a 17-3 loss instead of 41-7.
Im tempted to say
that we become more motivated…It seems that there was very little spirit being brought into the game. Cant take the wind out of the sails if you are sitting in the doldrums already.
It doesn't matter.
How is that any worse than 59-0 last week?
Cannons... fire them.
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BYU is a top 25 team. Arizona lost to New Mexico.
by BearsNecessity on Sep 20, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
59-0. Doesn't matter to who. It doesn't get any worse, regardless of opponent. Period.
Cannons... fire them.
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Maybe so
But the odds aren’t good enough to try it. FL would score immediately, don’t you think?
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn't matter.
kicking it away guarantees a loss.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe
We might be just trying to avoid another embarrassment, though. If we could hold them to no more points and score another TD or two, maybe that’d be not so bad.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
For the “knee down” part. Still, great effort for Stocker. He’s quite good.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions
Stocker wanted that.
After getting booed by our own fans against UAB, he desperately wants to prove himself.
Gary Danielson is openly rooting for Florida.
Cannons... fire them.
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I'd be curious to see what other Florida games they cover soon.
It’s natural for announcers to hype teams they expect to cover. That just helps them down the road.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree to a point... there's hype
and there’s blatant, shameless support for one team. This is the latter. I’ve been laughing at the ineptitude of this game, but hearing Danielson is what angers me. Mute button is a great thing.
Cannons... fire them.
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I think they've called it pretty fair
If I didn’t hate them, I’d like the Gators. They play the way good teams play. They ask no quarter, and they give none.
Lundquist has
Cannons... fire them.
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you mean FumBle?
whoshotwhointhewhatnow?
by thetennesseethumper on Sep 20, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha!
Y’all are killing me!
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still smiling.
And that with Wyoming getting killed too.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
8-player # or I.Q.?
whoshotwhointhewhatnow?
by thetennesseethumper on Sep 20, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
whoshotwhointhewhatnow?
by thetennesseethumper on Sep 20, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions
Touchdown.
Oh god. 2? Come on.
Cannons... fire them.
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high life is awesome
cheers
Cannons... fire them.
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Fail.
Hooper… you might be right sooner than later on the onside theory
Cannons... fire them.
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It's purely a time-of-game thing.
The new clock allows a 40-second runoff per play. That leaves about 25 total plays in a quarter when run right. For UT to score 3 more times, you have to assume 3 more Florida touches. Even if they go all 3-and-out, that’s 9 plays taking away 6 minutes of game time.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
My plan for scores
1. That Play Again.
2. G-Gun, Jones throws deep.
3. Um . . .
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions
anyone seen
the northern illinois score? any guesses when we’ll see the next W?
whoshotwhointhewhatnow?
by thetennesseethumper on Sep 20, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
I'm glad I'll be at business conference at a booth.
Since I’m not sales, we have Nintendo Wii and I’ll have online UT football.
I can’t wait to play the Wii.
Is Fulmer going to be there next year? Do you guys want him to be?
by dawgdayafternoon on Sep 20, 2008 6:14 PM EDT reply actions
Interesting question.
His buyout’s going to be a monster, given the near-guaranteed contract extensions. Even if he doesn’t get this year’s extension, that’s still a 6-year buyout. I’m not sure they can afford it for at least 3 more years.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
perhaps, as lunch director
whoshotwhointhewhatnow?
by thetennesseethumper on Sep 20, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If this turns into a worst-case year,
I would sooner expect Fulmer to step down than to be bought out. He still loves the school and the program. It’s going to be a matter of whether he thinks he’s lost the touch.
(That’s all speculative, of course. Not based on my feelings, which I’m not going to share.)
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I still dont think
this will end up as bad as the season of which we do not speak. It would take something like that for him to resign in my opinion (for what little thats worth).
I don't think it'll end that badly either.
There’s a lot of talent on this team, and the game was actually closer than the scoreboard. I think UT has a great chance against Auburn if they can put this one out of their minds.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
At Auburn, At GA
Anyone think UT will win either of those games? It will take a seachange on offense and with QB play to have a chance. Alabama looks like almost a certain loss. SC on the road. Vandy is undefeated. UK looks good.
This could leave us longing for the season of which we do not speak.
Cannons... fire them.
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Long Season
Ya’ll still play Auburn, Georgia, & Alabama. I just pray that you guys don’t get your season back on track with another blowout win against us. I think not, (this year) but that is a UGA alum’s POV. Beat Auburn and Bama as bad as you guys want though.
by dawgdayafternoon on Sep 20, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
UGA will be tough this year.
Auburn is our best shot, honestly. Bama is going to be very tough.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
True about the tide, we play them next.
Should be a great test, and potential confidence builder.
by dawgdayafternoon on Sep 20, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think UGA matches up well against Alabama.
I’ll be pulling for UGA for sure. I’m not really partial to SEC teams one way of the other (I’m a transplant from the Rockies), but Saban’s handling of job positions still grates me.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting Fact
My uncle, David Page, played D-line for UT during the early/mid 70s, lives in Faragut, and goes to all the games. 10 + years ago he got hit in the head with a tire iron by a PO’d Bama fan/redneck/sociopath. It hospitalized him, and occured in front of my then 13 year old cousin. I hate Bama.
by dawgdayafternoon on Sep 20, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Just saw this from Holly
"I got a nosebleed right after that first score. No kidding. It’s been the high point of the day.
Love to the board from sun-blasted Tempe—
H"
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply actions
Gotta love Holly.
No. Seriously. She’s been UT’s high point today.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like the new emotional Fulmer.
This can’t be good for the blood pressure, and I don’t think it accomplishes anything.
9 UT penalties to UF’s 8. I don’t know how the holding’s gone, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see more holding from UT. Florida is faster, no matter how much they drone on about it.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
My response to Holly . . .
. . . was that the team was still bleeding. Her response to that:
The bleeding would stop if we would just STOP HITTING OURSELVES.
Right.
Go Vols!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Sep 20, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn't cry if Harvin got a twisted knee
…. would serve Meyer right. I’m not openly rooting for it, but Meyer is a classless turd who deserves to have something blow up in his face.
Cannons... fire them.
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Both should have taken 30 seconds. The only difference was that the Stocker one should have been overturned. I think they got both calls right.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
There were a couple of missed calls here and there, but nothing outside of normal officiating margins of error.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That is true.
Cannons... fire them.
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I agree,
I was just speaking about the difference in time to review those calls. Taking 5 minutes to review the UT call allows the defense to rest.
That was the dumbest visual.
Let’s see: my plan is for my team to:
A. not get scored on.
B. score a lot.
If that works, we win!
Is having an analytical brain a disqualifier for TV production?
Condolences folks, See you in 3 weeks
Between the Hedges for some sweet revenge. GO DAWGS SIC EM, WOOF, WOOF, WOOF, WOOF. . .
by dawgdayafternoon on Sep 20, 2008 6:45 PM EDT reply actions
The turnovers were all the difference.
Without those, UT would have been competitive and they wouldn’t have self-destructed.
UT beat themselves.
Yeah, the pattern is:
too much pressure placed on the players. When one mistake happens, they panic.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Turnovers, yea, they were bad. The Vols did beat themselves.... to a point
They left a lot of points on the field, but the special teams were DREADFUL, allowing a score and giving the Fla offense short fields on multiple occassions.
Cannons... fire them.
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These kind of losses are unacceptable.
Fulmer is under contract for years to come, but something needs to change.
Cannons... fire them.
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I gotta think it over a bit.
My knee-jerk thoughts aren’t usually very reliable.
But hey, at least your Bucs are competetive. ;-)
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope they can stay that way
speaking of ineffective offenses… I’m concerned about the Bucs lack of a downfield threat with Galloway out and Antonio Bryant dropping balls. We’ll see if the old defense can keep it together for one more year.
Cannons... fire them.
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we'll see
the way the NFC South goes, you might as well root for last place this year so you can dominate next year.
It’s a fun division, for sure.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW,
Gaines Adams did have a nice sack on that play.
by David Hooper on Sep 20, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
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