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The NCAA Committee on Infractions called the University of Alabama a "serial repeat violator" with an "abysmal infractions track record" and an "extensive recent history of infractions cases unmatched by any other member institution in the NCAA," in responding to the school's textbook appeal, according to documents released today.

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they're just telling it like it is, that's all....

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 14, 2009 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

and Joel

I’ve resisted fanshotting this story for fear of igniting bammers to come over here, but since you did it, let me get a red bull or two and it’s on!!

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 14, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I wasn't going to post...

…but now I feel obligated.

There’s no need to concern yourselves with this- Whether we win or lose this appeal, the victory over UT during that time period will remain a ‘W’ for us and an ‘L’ for you.

Oh yeah, and good luck with Idle this week!

How’s that? : )

by yellowhammer on Oct 14, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not bad, not bad

That repsonse seems fair, so good luck with getting the….ummmm….vacation? back!

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 14, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gracias-

I’m not thrilled with vacated wins (a strange concept from a strange organization)- the wins don’t count for us, but the loss still counts for the opponent) but I’ll take that over lost schollies anyday!

Idle – 24
UT – 10

by yellowhammer on Oct 14, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

??

You must be predicting an “off” week for Crompton with some picks thrown to “Idle”

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 14, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope- 5 safeties.

As for Crompton- I submit that the Georgia game WAS an “off” week for him. But I’m confident he can work through it, shake it off, and return to his regular form.

(insert smiley face or winky face here)

by yellowhammer on Oct 15, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what you hope

Good Crompton might just show up down there next week, but I don’t know how much it will help.

As long as you guys don’t get the flu, and we don’t play not to win but to keep it close and cover the spread, Bama probably wins.

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 15, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd call that a moral victory.

I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.

by bobo_the_vol on Oct 15, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but that ain't happening...

I was actually refering to your opponent this week, not Alabama.

by yellowhammer on Oct 17, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah

“Idle” as in “Bye”.

Not as in “Education”. Got it. ;-)

by David Hooper on Oct 18, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

"unmatched by any other member institution in the NCAA"

They’re Number 1!!!!!!!
They’re Number 1!!!!!!!!!!

Official MCM Hater!

Retire #9!

by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah

another national championship for them. congrats!

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 14, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

The NCAA is such a troll.

and inaccurate.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Oct 14, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh here we go...

I see your point though. Bama has never cheated and the NCAA is just soooo unfair in thinking of punishing them. How dare they!!

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 14, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just making light of your statement

Which seems to imply that the NCAA was “inaccurate” in claiming that Alabama has a recent history of violating the rules. (cheating)

In any case the manner in which I put it was brought down to your level since you make statements such as insisting that our “clown” of a coach can’t win without his daddy….

Very intelligent that ^

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 14, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

According the NCAA’s database, at least 27 (of the 120) Division 1, Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) institutions have experienced the same number or more major infractions cases than the University. Characterizing the University as "abysmal," therefore, maligns almost a quarter of the schools in the FBS, including half of the PAC-10, half of the Big 12, 3 schools in the ACC, and 4 members of the Big Ten.

BTW Your own people brought up Kiffin’s off the field conduct, and I think clown antics is a reasonable way to describe them. After all, what do clowns do? They get attention by acting foolish. Isn’t that he says he’s trying to do? Get attention at all costs?

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Oct 14, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quantify that quote

Because if it’s referring to all infractions a school has ever receieved, than it’s total BS. If it comes to light that Florida was cheating last year, the NCAA isn’t going to punish them as repeat offenders because they got caught in the 70’s and 80’s. Alabama, on the other hand, has been violating the rules quite often, quite recently.

Furthermore, I think most people would agree that being ranked 93 out of 120 teams in anything is “abysmal”. Ranked 93rd in rushing? Abysmal. 93rd in pass defense? Abysmal. Etc. etc.

As far as your clown comments though. You informed us that Kiffin would not win without his daddy. An obvious flame attampt, but I bit anyway. Did “daddy” Kiffin convince Bryce Brown to attend UT because of his stellar defensive tactics? What about Nu’keese Richardson? Sure having Monte running our defense is going to help us tremendously as far as winning games, but saying UT won’t win without him is disingenious at best given the overall quality depth throughout the staff. Something Kiffin planned all along. Including the man responsible for many current Bama players, Lance Thompson.

You may not have liked his public statements, but you can’t argue they haven’t been successful thus far.

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 14, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://uanews.ua.edu/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Rebuttal-Brief-final-filed1412.pdf

page 5 if you want to see all the details.

If you want to talk about recent infraction case history only, Oklahoma has two in the last three years. Alabama has 2 in the last 5. 3 in the last 10 if you want to count a basketball case that resulted in no penalties.

Perhaps overreaching and misleading would be more appropriate than inaccurate. For example, the NCAA references our “extensive infraction case history”. Of course includes cases such as the 1999 one that involved a fired basketball coach and resulted in no penalties (as I mentioned above). It’s basically like factoring in charges someone was proven innocent of in a later trial sentencing.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Oct 15, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually agree with Bama fans on this one and say so over at RBR

http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2009/10/13/1083853/bama-demolishes-the-coi-in-rebuttal

Vol fan and Bama fans agree on something. Normally, we just plain don’t like each other when the subject of football comes up. Great rivalries will do that to otherwise sensible and kind people. And, the Tennessee-Alabama rivalry is one of the great ones. Thanks to the Bear and General Neyland and everyone else who helped build it.

We may give you a hard time about this subject in the next couple of weeks leading up to the "Third Saturday in October", but -rest assured – in our heart of hearts nobody thinks that the NCAA has any credibility on this issue. Most of the NCAA rules are downright silly.

So from one Vol fan to the Bama Nation, we agree deep down that the textbook thing wasn’t like "real cheating" and it just needs to go away.

Please know that the only vacating any of us really believe in has more to do with being on the beach somewhere with a cold beverage in our hand.

by memphispete on Oct 14, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

and

We are essentially saying the same thing – minor cheating resulted in massive unfair penalties.

Students finding a loophole in the system and giving/selling textbooks to friends is not a serious offense, in my opinion. Not brilliant because you might get caught but also not a felony at a night club, either. (Yes, Florida trolls, that was for you).

It’s equally true that Kiffin’s secondary violations are minor as well. Mentioning a recruit’s name on the radio, doing the Miami smoke screen entrance into the stadium, and that sort of thing just aren’t that big a deal. Do you realize that UT only had 6 secondary violations when the SEC basically said stop? (And, little known fact, he has.) Do you also realize that Ole Miss had 5 secondary violations for their football program over the same time period? Which program got the headlines and the bad boy rep? Not saying it didn’t benefit Tennessee but a little perspective would be helpful.

In any event, neither Bama’s nor Tennessee’s minor infractions are as serious as Calipari’s use of Worldwide Wes to garner top recruits (someone’s gotta be getting paid there, don’t you think?) or having recruits falsify SAT tests. Yet, Bama and Memphis both vacate wins while Calipari nets a contract worth multiple millions and garners a top recruiting class at Kentucky.

How is the NCAA right in all that?

by memphispete on Oct 14, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

by memphispete on Oct 14, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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