RTT BlogPoll Computer Rankings: BCS Week
This is the first week of the BCS rankings, where everybody's flawed methods are supposed to magically cancel each other by averaging them together. Ah, well. Here are the rankings as given through the RTT Computer BlogPoll Ranking System Thingy.
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| Rank | Team | Delta |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Florida | |
| 2 | Alabama | |
| 3 | Texas | |
| 4 | TCU | 2 |
| 5 | Iowa | 3 |
| 6 | Southern Cal | 1 |
| 7 | Boise State | 2 |
| 8 | Penn State | 5 |
| 9 | Cincinnati | 1 |
| 10 | Virginia Tech | 6 |
| 11 | Miami (Florida) | 4 |
| 12 | Oregon | |
| 13 | Brigham Young | 3 |
| 14 | Utah | 4 |
| 15 | Georgia Tech | 5 |
| 16 | West Virginia | 3 |
| 17 | LSU | |
| 18 | Nebraska | 9 |
| 19 | Arizona | 3 |
| 20 | Ohio State | 9 |
| 21 | Pittsburgh | |
| 22 | Idaho | |
| 23 | South Carolina | 2 |
| 24 | Central Michigan | |
| 25 | Texas Tech | |
| Last week's ballot | ||
Comments follow below.
- Alabama/Florida Yes, I know that Alabama should probably be on top. The numbers keep insisting on Florida (see below). Why? Because (a) Florida has a massively superior 3rd down offense (3DO) and (b) Florida's Passing Efficiency Offense (PEO) is off the charts. These offset Alabama's Strength of Schedule (SOS) advantage in the computer by a considerable margin, which brings up two discussion points. One: Florida 'cheats' the system by not passing against good defenses and attempting only high-percentage passes otherwise. That, and they have a tendency to pass in the red zone, increasing their TD/Attempt ratio. These combine for the most efficient passing game in the nation, even though it's not the most effective. So here's a project for the offseason: figure out a way to measure effectiveness rather than efficiency. Two: What if Florida's offense really is unbeatable, in the sense of winning games? It's ugly and hideous to watch, but so long as Tebow holds up, they have an amazing knack of converting third downs, even when everybody knows it's going to be a qb sneak up the middle. Just a thought.
- Texas I wish the computers would drop them further. They're a terrible first-half team and are lucky to scrape by Oklahoma based on a hideous number of turnovers. I'd have no problem dropping them manually in the final BlogPoll ballot. Talk to me.
- Cincinnati They have two problems. First, their SOS is still very low, even after South Florida (though much better). Second, they're an offense-led team, which is more volatile than defense and therefore correlates less to success. The defense is alright, but is lowest-rated of the top 12. Hang in there, though; continued success will see them move upwards.
- Arizona Puzzler for me, too. So far, though, they've had respectable losses against Iowa and Washington and a pretty impressive schedule so far.
- Idaho? That 6-1 mark is buoying them, as well as a better-than-appears SOS (though still below average). They're in by a knife's edge, though, and will drop precipitously at the next loss. Same with Central Michigan, really.
BlogPoll Raw Data
BONUS: If you want to play around with the weights, here is the data in Excel 2003 form and in Excel 2007 form. I use '07 when I edit the sheet, so that's probably the safer bet if you have the choice, but both seem to work fine for me.
| Rank | Team | WL | SOS | PED | RD | 3DO | TD | PEO | OPPG | TO | 3DD | SCORE |
| 1 | Florida | 1.825 | 0.215 | 1.923 | 1.044 | 1.586 | 2.087 | 2.036 | 2.116 | 1.625 | 2.023 | 148.081 |
| 2 | Alabama | 1.825 | 0.861 | 2.039 | 1.769 | -0.130 | 2.117 | 0.403 | 1.715 | 0.955 | 1.456 | 139.973 |
| 3 | Texas | 1.825 | -0.015 | 1.301 | 2.398 | 0.526 | 1.795 | 0.415 | 1.287 | 1.173 | 2.571 | 125.440 |
| 4 | TCU | 1.825 | 0.024 | 1.181 | 1.360 | 0.578 | 1.928 | 1.248 | 1.425 | 0.938 | 1.649 | 119.943 |
| 5 | Iowa | 1.825 | 1.187 | 1.791 | 0.298 | 0.422 | 0.992 | 0.084 | 1.241 | -0.444 | 0.322 | 116.573 |
| 6 | Southern Cal. | 1.154 | 1.583 | 1.329 | 1.669 | -1.075 | 1.564 | 0.836 | 1.701 | 1.135 | 1.141 | 114.139 |
| 7 | Boise St. | 1.825 | 0.349 | 1.122 | 0.937 | -0.081 | 1.277 | 1.899 | 1.172 | 0.912 | 1.170 | 113.025 |
| 8 | Penn St. | 1.250 | -1.071 | 1.393 | 1.492 | 2.320 | 1.913 | 0.642 | 2.110 | 0.968 | 0.910 | 98.467 |
| 9 | Cincinnati | 1.825 | -0.368 | 1.018 | 0.563 | 0.777 | 0.494 | 1.487 | 1.334 | 1.390 | 0.243 | 94.611 |
| 10 | Virginia Tech | 0.674 | 2.201 | 1.408 | -0.222 | -0.122 | 0.614 | 1.772 | 0.669 | 0.050 | 1.029 | 93.319 |
| 11 | Miami (FL) | 1.154 | 1.322 | 0.386 | 0.162 | 0.499 | 0.808 | 1.501 | 0.436 | 0.149 | 0.208 | 87.790 |
| 12 | Oregon | 1.154 | 1.374 | 1.657 | 0.536 | -1.289 | 1.219 | -0.274 | 1.057 | -0.295 | 0.616 | 84.907 |
| 13 | BYU | 1.250 | -0.401 | -0.462 | 0.903 | 3.339 | 0.245 | 1.998 | 0.176 | 1.607 | -0.937 | 81.395 |
| 14 | Utah | 1.154 | 0.222 | 1.468 | 0.238 | 0.470 | 0.792 | 0.467 | 0.827 | 0.732 | 1.669 | 78.118 |
| 15 | Georgia Tech | 1.250 | 1.712 | -1.317 | -0.013 | 1.755 | -0.386 | 1.584 | -0.279 | 0.697 | -0.662 | 77.477 |
| 16 | West Virginia | 1.154 | -0.472 | 0.908 | 1.383 | 0.860 | 1.021 | 1.069 | 0.436 | 0.860 | 0.663 | 76.765 |
| 17 | LSU | 1.154 | 1.057 | 1.162 | 0.254 | -0.152 | 0.530 | 0.352 | 1.310 | -1.429 | -0.536 | 76.058 |
| 18 | Nebraska | 0.482 | 0.383 | 1.414 | 1.009 | 0.823 | 1.382 | 0.457 | 1.679 | 0.132 | 0.446 | 74.923 |
| 19 | Arizona | 0.482 | 2.115 | -0.109 | 0.761 | 0.522 | 0.370 | 0.437 | -0.279 | 1.158 | -0.632 | 71.358 |
| 20 | Ohio St. | 0.674 | 0.437 | 1.206 | 1.207 | -0.181 | 1.157 | -0.154 | 1.379 | -0.802 | 0.269 | 63.736 |
| 21 | Pittsburgh | 1.250 | -0.280 | -0.452 | 0.945 | 0.514 | 0.427 | 1.644 | 0.748 | 0.172 | 0.121 | 58.794 |
| 22 | Idaho | 1.250 | -0.252 | -0.991 | 1.030 | 2.426 | -0.156 | 1.133 | -0.160 | 0.764 | -2.602 | 57.949 |
| 23 | South Carolina | 0.674 | 0.911 | 0.824 | -0.183 | 0.167 | 1.049 | -0.272 | 0.748 | -0.348 | 0.159 | 54.662 |
| 24 | Central Mich. | 1.250 | -1.092 | 0.449 | 0.308 | 1.067 | 0.474 | 1.196 | 1.122 | 0.401 | 0.531 | 52.292 |
| 25 | Texas Tech | 0.674 | -0.306 | 0.356 | 0.886 | 0.447 | 0.233 | 1.631 | 0.590 | 1.860 | -0.132 | 50.126 |
| 26 | South Fla. | 1.154 | -1.825 | 1.290 | 0.498 | 0.212 | 1.134 | 1.296 | 1.449 | 0.526 | 1.358 | 47.640 |
| 27 | Wisconsin | 0.674 | 0.745 | -0.576 | 0.595 | 1.041 | 0.472 | 0.149 | -0.121 | 0.309 | -0.265 | 47.480 |
| 28 | Oklahoma | -0.189 | 0.220 | 1.102 | 1.654 | -0.469 | 1.594 | 0.363 | 1.978 | 0.967 | 0.765 | 47.453 |
| 29 | Kansas | 1.154 | -1.232 | -0.098 | 0.918 | 0.923 | 0.139 | 1.299 | 0.458 | 2.197 | 0.269 | 45.229 |
| 30 | Oregon St. | 0.482 | 0.556 | -0.187 | 0.982 | 0.912 | -0.305 | 0.393 | 0.136 | 0.178 | 0.525 | 42.435 |
| 31 | Navy | 0.674 | -0.356 | 0.002 | 0.510 | 1.261 | 0.616 | 0.678 | 0.234 | -0.171 | 1.462 | 41.179 |
| 32 | Oklahoma St. | 1.154 | -1.075 | 0.534 | 0.738 | 0.201 | -0.148 | 1.252 | 0.250 | 0.625 | 0.945 | 40.935 |
| 33 | Tennessee | -0.189 | 0.635 | 1.204 | 0.696 | -0.248 | 1.365 | 0.025 | 0.619 | 0.271 | 0.828 | 38.280 |
| 34 | Notre Dame | 0.482 | 1.424 | -0.827 | 0.093 | -0.043 | -1.074 | 1.787 | -0.210 | 1.318 | -0.265 | 37.838 |
| 35 | California | 0.482 | 1.213 | -0.312 | 0.406 | 0.030 | -0.335 | -0.130 | 0.112 | 0.549 | 0.446 | 37.178 |
| 36 | Arizona St. | 0.482 | -0.569 | 0.837 | 1.894 | -1.048 | 1.765 | -0.870 | 1.103 | -0.129 | 1.239 | 36.308 |
| 37 | Fresno St. | -0.189 | 1.219 | -0.068 | 0.181 | 1.324 | -0.184 | 0.663 | -0.164 | 1.463 | 0.502 | 35.557 |
| 38 | Mississippi | 0.482 | -0.491 | 1.833 | -0.166 | -0.291 | 0.899 | -0.213 | 1.518 | -0.205 | 2.173 | 35.144 |
| 39 | Stanford | 0.098 | 1.113 | -0.530 | 0.334 | 0.565 | -0.374 | 1.070 | 0.057 | 0.918 | -0.137 | 32.091 |
| 40 | Auburn | 0.674 | 0.200 | 0.906 | -0.935 | 0.270 | -0.215 | 0.413 | -0.319 | 1.527 | 0.283 | 31.567 |
| 41 | North Carolina | 0.482 | -0.655 | 1.849 | 0.643 | -1.341 | 1.933 | -0.856 | 1.356 | -1.652 | 1.160 | 29.474 |
| 42 | Michigan St. | 0.098 | 0.549 | -0.553 | 0.952 | 0.296 | 0.326 | 0.911 | 0.333 | 0.692 | -0.605 | 29.262 |
| 43 | Georgia | 0.098 | 1.587 | -0.386 | 0.304 | -0.058 | -0.182 | -0.003 | -0.515 | -0.738 | 0.863 | 26.623 |
| 44 | Michigan | 0.674 | -0.582 | 0.416 | 0.232 | 0.334 | -0.145 | 0.235 | 0.293 | 0.861 | 0.541 | 24.092 |
| 45 | Clemson | -0.189 | 0.756 | 1.291 | 0.418 | -1.027 | 1.396 | -1.289 | 1.196 | -0.863 | 1.030 | 23.702 |
| 46 | Connecticut | 0.482 | -0.459 | -0.193 | 0.719 | 0.259 | 0.695 | 0.289 | 0.803 | -0.077 | 0.315 | 23.685 |
| 47 | Houston | 1.154 | -0.459 | -0.001 | -1.879 | 1.401 | -1.548 | 1.378 | -0.555 | 3.189 | -1.462 | 21.698 |
| 48 | Missouri | 0.482 | -0.358 | 0.461 | 0.303 | -0.332 | 0.293 | 0.260 | 0.505 | 0.485 | -0.265 | 20.031 |
| 49 | Virginia | -0.189 | 0.493 | 1.528 | 0.208 | -0.691 | 1.004 | -0.895 | 0.734 | -1.267 | 1.299 | 19.456 |
| 50 | Washington | -0.477 | 2.554 | -1.071 | -0.500 | 1.597 | -1.158 | -0.065 | -0.536 | -0.283 | -0.011 | 17.868 |
| 51 | Air Force | 0.098 | -1.071 | 1.324 | 0.298 | 0.277 | 1.453 | -0.748 | 1.675 | -0.539 | 1.498 | 16.118 |
| 52 | UCLA | -0.189 | 1.415 | 0.908 | -0.242 | -1.107 | 0.566 | -1.243 | 0.297 | -1.162 | 0.770 | 14.191 |
| 53 | Boston College | 0.674 | -0.465 | 0.146 | 0.537 | -1.031 | 0.418 | -0.048 | 0.452 | -0.884 | 1.258 | 14.035 |
| 54 | Wake Forest | 0.098 | -0.063 | -0.295 | 0.239 | 0.894 | -0.156 | 1.077 | -0.022 | 0.234 | -0.559 | 13.988 |
| 55 | Tulsa | 0.482 | -1.361 | 0.203 | 0.670 | -0.333 | 0.693 | 1.393 | 0.803 | 0.300 | 0.715 | 13.983 |
| 56 | La.-Monroe | 0.482 | -0.860 | 0.009 | 1.082 | 0.328 | -0.021 | 0.255 | -0.532 | 0.303 | -0.937 | 11.617 |
| 57 | Troy | 0.482 | 0.034 | -0.422 | 0.418 | -0.524 | -0.473 | 0.584 | -0.555 | 0.749 | 0.487 | 10.927 |
| 58 | Ohio | 0.674 | -0.911 | 1.292 | -0.330 | -0.662 | 0.252 | -0.239 | 0.393 | -0.700 | 0.669 | 10.245 |
| 59 | Kentucky | -0.189 | 1.702 | 0.285 | -1.013 | -0.181 | 0.105 | -1.269 | -0.095 | -0.672 | -0.102 | 8.078 |
| 60 | Arkansas | -0.189 | 1.742 | -1.030 | -0.071 | -1.846 | -0.708 | 1.092 | -0.417 | 1.025 | 0.487 | 1.410 |
| 61 | Southern Miss. | 0.098 | -1.249 | 0.194 | 0.507 | 0.341 | 0.437 | 0.583 | 0.176 | 0.570 | 0.616 | -0.331 |
| 62 | Kansas St. | 0.098 | -0.384 | -0.216 | 0.782 | -0.698 | 0.250 | 0.151 | 0.017 | -0.178 | 0.377 | -1.896 |
| 63 | East Carolina | 0.098 | -0.674 | -0.346 | 0.667 | 0.824 | 0.040 | -0.887 | 0.116 | -0.822 | -0.204 | -6.609 |
| 64 | Minnesota | 0.098 | 0.771 | -0.248 | -0.552 | -0.313 | -0.636 | -0.712 | 0.096 | -1.451 | -1.868 | -8.237 |
| 65 | Purdue | -1.053 | 0.999 | 0.607 | -0.281 | 0.578 | -0.197 | -0.062 | -0.653 | 0.453 | -0.588 | -8.882 |
| 66 | Northwestern | 0.098 | -1.654 | -0.478 | 0.569 | 1.519 | 0.193 | 0.319 | 0.136 | 0.068 | 0.328 | -9.678 |
| 67 | Florida St. | -0.861 | 1.951 | -1.757 | -0.738 | 1.148 | -1.193 | 1.041 | -0.579 | 0.851 | -0.628 | -10.553 |
| 68 | Marshall | 0.098 | 0.172 | 0.419 | -0.605 | -0.161 | -0.428 | -1.169 | 0.136 | -1.121 | -1.302 | -10.735 |
| 69 | Northern Ill. | -0.189 | -0.390 | -0.269 | 0.078 | 0.201 | 0.045 | 0.314 | 0.712 | -0.338 | -1.066 | -10.783 |
| 70 | Nevada | -0.189 | -0.015 | -1.689 | 0.525 | 1.220 | -0.752 | 0.254 | -0.717 | 1.782 | -0.480 | -12.007 |
| 71 | Iowa St. | 0.098 | -0.666 | -0.481 | -0.006 | 0.669 | -0.532 | -0.654 | 0.333 | 0.553 | 0.297 | -13.926 |
| 72 | Rutgers | 0.482 | -2.167 | -0.054 | 1.124 | -0.454 | 0.657 | -0.470 | 0.872 | -0.451 | 0.149 | -14.408 |
| 73 | Colorado St. | -0.477 | 1.277 | -0.572 | 0.138 | -1.295 | -0.560 | 0.436 | -0.653 | -0.494 | -2.028 | -14.865 |
| 74 | NC St. | -0.477 | -0.726 | -0.914 | 1.027 | 0.738 | 0.718 | 0.296 | -0.436 | 0.237 | 0.029 | -15.662 |
| 75 | Buffalo | -0.477 | -0.896 | 0.282 | -0.199 | 0.897 | 0.387 | 0.556 | -0.062 | 0.264 | -0.428 | -16.213 |
| 76 | Temple | 0.482 | -1.766 | -0.186 | 0.803 | -0.656 | 0.566 | -0.433 | 0.665 | -1.191 | 0.149 | -16.400 |
| 77 | Mississippi St. | -0.477 | -0.015 | 0.041 | 0.311 | -0.518 | -0.003 | -0.719 | -0.002 | 0.229 | 0.297 | -19.498 |
| 78 | La.-Lafayette | 0.482 | -0.965 | -0.393 | -0.635 | 0.639 | -0.399 | -0.668 | -0.739 | -0.637 | -1.100 | -20.852 |
| 79 | Indiana | 0.098 | -0.452 | -0.799 | -0.068 | -0.244 | -0.435 | -0.202 | -0.298 | -0.161 | -0.496 | -23.588 |
| 80 | UCF | -0.189 | -1.088 | -0.776 | 1.150 | 0.259 | 0.172 | -0.534 | 0.389 | -1.264 | -0.428 | -25.253 |
| 81 | Toledo | 0.098 | -0.433 | -0.010 | -1.024 | 0.030 | -1.331 | 0.769 | -1.937 | 1.413 | -1.661 | -25.789 |
| 82 | SMU | -0.189 | 0.248 | 0.889 | -0.841 | -1.609 | -0.636 | -0.569 | -0.924 | -0.211 | -0.392 | -26.239 |
| 83 | Texas A&M | -0.189 | -0.976 | -0.462 | -0.601 | 1.109 | -0.644 | 0.479 | -1.292 | 1.744 | 0.945 | -26.522 |
| 84 | Duke | -0.189 | -0.817 | -0.436 | -0.235 | -0.203 | -0.071 | 0.783 | -0.441 | 0.355 | -0.417 | -26.844 |
| 85 | Wyoming | 0.098 | -0.726 | 0.285 | 0.000 | -0.963 | -0.300 | -1.455 | 0.057 | -0.845 | 0.136 | -28.475 |
| 86 | Bowling Green | -0.477 | 0.086 | 0.039 | -1.445 | 0.123 | -0.511 | 0.131 | -0.693 | 0.550 | 1.188 | -28.622 |
| 87 | Baylor | -0.189 | -0.573 | 0.768 | -0.964 | -0.764 | -0.650 | -0.165 | 0.181 | -0.167 | -1.066 | -30.929 |
| 88 | Louisiana Tech | -0.189 | -1.327 | 0.216 | -1.234 | 0.716 | -0.137 | -0.088 | 0.274 | -0.138 | -0.543 | -35.583 |
| 89 | Western Mich. | -0.477 | -0.302 | -0.429 | -0.968 | 0.518 | -0.813 | 0.029 | -0.398 | 0.257 | 0.215 | -36.576 |
| 90 | Hawaii | -0.861 | -0.043 | -0.528 | -1.372 | 1.500 | -0.846 | 0.764 | -0.786 | 1.150 | -2.013 | -37.922 |
| 91 | San Diego St. | -0.861 | 0.006 | -0.078 | -0.223 | -0.357 | 0.194 | -0.365 | -0.532 | -0.977 | -1.363 | -39.480 |
| 92 | Colorado | -0.861 | 0.892 | -0.972 | -0.002 | -0.082 | -0.672 | -1.419 | -0.832 | -1.142 | 0.546 | -40.560 |
| 93 | Middle Tenn. | -0.189 | -0.560 | 0.118 | -0.796 | -1.288 | -0.432 | -0.963 | -0.394 | -0.092 | 0.353 | -44.283 |
| 94 | Louisville | -0.861 | 0.301 | -1.064 | -0.414 | -0.313 | -0.085 | -0.290 | -0.532 | -0.011 | -0.657 | -44.830 |
| 95 | Arkansas St. | -1.398 | 0.263 | -1.334 | 0.709 | -0.220 | 0.029 | -0.513 | 0.329 | -0.876 | -0.137 | -52.069 |
| 96 | Vanderbilt | -1.053 | -1.043 | 1.452 | -0.687 | -0.885 | 0.834 | -2.232 | 0.787 | -0.817 | 0.757 | -55.867 |
| 97 | Syracuse | -0.861 | 0.103 | -1.519 | 0.990 | -1.979 | -0.454 | -0.075 | -0.763 | -1.113 | -0.052 | -58.312 |
| 98 | Maryland | -1.053 | -0.026 | -0.709 | -0.405 | -0.266 | -0.371 | -0.485 | -1.344 | -0.706 | 0.482 | -59.025 |
| 99 | Army | -0.477 | -2.068 | 0.320 | 0.622 | -1.315 | 1.150 | -1.914 | 0.274 | -1.538 | -0.102 | -60.896 |
| 100 | North Texas | -1.532 | -0.435 | 0.284 | -0.872 | -0.272 | -0.595 | -0.578 | -1.592 | 0.485 | 0.494 | -75.214 |
| 101 | Illinois | -1.532 | 0.448 | -0.748 | -0.891 | -0.034 | -1.096 | -1.187 | -0.601 | -0.324 | -1.392 | -76.608 |
| 102 | Akron | -1.532 | -0.151 | -0.385 | -0.406 | -0.546 | 0.009 | -1.402 | -0.302 | -1.432 | -1.385 | -78.051 |
| 103 | Tulane | -0.861 | -0.558 | -1.647 | -1.181 | 0.544 | -0.953 | -0.201 | -1.615 | -0.530 | -1.834 | -80.021 |
| 104 | Kent St. | -0.477 | -1.758 | 0.079 | -0.173 | -2.441 | -0.445 | -0.962 | 0.155 | -1.121 | 0.070 | -80.548 |
| 105 | New Mexico St. | -0.477 | -1.641 | 0.088 | -1.046 | -0.390 | -0.152 | -2.284 | -0.436 | -2.210 | -0.621 | -80.903 |
| 106 | Miami (OH) | -2.204 | 1.458 | -0.473 | -0.755 | -0.492 | -0.515 | -1.612 | -1.582 | -1.116 | -0.776 | -81.328 |
| 107 | UNLV | -1.053 | -0.377 | -1.848 | -1.534 | 1.471 | -1.657 | -0.305 | -1.542 | -0.019 | -2.188 | -85.055 |
| 108 | Utah St. | -1.532 | -0.121 | -0.200 | -1.605 | -1.248 | -1.364 | 0.651 | -1.223 | 1.109 | -0.456 | -86.822 |
| 109 | San Jose St. | -1.532 | 1.915 | -0.802 | -2.730 | -1.776 | -1.694 | -0.699 | -1.315 | -1.577 | -0.511 | -89.320 |
| 110 | Memphis | -1.053 | -1.346 | -0.376 | -1.056 | -0.616 | -0.834 | -0.532 | -0.734 | -0.261 | 0.560 | -89.489 |
| 111 | Fla. Atlantic | -1.398 | 0.329 | -1.329 | -2.143 | 0.393 | -1.767 | -0.314 | -1.771 | 0.628 | -1.000 | -90.854 |
| 112 | UTEP | -0.861 | 0.032 | -0.799 | -1.719 | -0.701 | -2.290 | -1.254 | -1.499 | -0.779 | -1.182 | -91.521 |
| 113 | UAB | -0.861 | -0.601 | -1.691 | -0.170 | -0.701 | -1.769 | -1.425 | -1.453 | -0.333 | -1.376 | -94.021 |
| 114 | Washington St. | -1.532 | 1.667 | -1.306 | -1.356 | -2.104 | -2.235 | -1.649 | -1.523 | -1.876 | 0.510 | -98.884 |
| 115 | FIU | -1.532 | 0.316 | -0.877 | -2.120 | -0.608 | -2.403 | -0.554 | -1.615 | -0.686 | -0.052 | -106.320 |
| 116 | Eastern Mich. | -2.204 | -0.388 | -0.354 | -2.360 | -0.089 | -0.564 | -1.646 | -1.453 | -1.861 | -0.895 | -128.643 |
| 117 | Ball St. | -2.204 | -1.066 | -1.834 | -0.409 | -0.616 | -0.953 | -1.842 | -0.891 | -1.404 | -0.145 | -142.877 |
| 118 | New Mexico | -2.204 | -0.205 | -1.561 | -0.708 | -2.460 | -1.253 | -1.247 | -1.914 | -1.406 | -1.038 | -146.229 |
| 119 | Rice | -2.204 | 0.420 | -1.996 | -1.573 | -1.186 | -1.914 | -1.873 | -2.905 | -1.315 | -0.847 | -148.996 |
| 120 | Western Ky. | -2.204 | -0.069 | -3.014 | -3.020 | -1.537 | -2.180 | -1.532 | -2.006 | -1.409 | -2.757 | -185.813 |
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Woah
TCU’s first complete game sure shot them up the rankings. I’ve been advocating moving them up all season, but I’m not sure their resume really justifies #4. We’ll know more about them after the matchup with BYU. If they win that one, they’re a top 5 team. Right now, I’d have to have them behind Texas, Iowa, and Cincy. Speaking of which, Cincy hasn’t given up more than 20 points all season. How does that mean their defense is only average? They’ve been pretty dominant all year and have an argument for top 5. Also, Iowa should be above Texas. I doubt them and doubt them, but they keep winning, and they’ve actually beaten a top 25 team (unlike Texas). And I approve of BSU dropping to 7.
I think GT is more impressive than BYU and Utah, but they have won some close games over mediocre teams, so that’s arguable. I am surprised with how high Penn State is.
Nebraska ahead of TTech? That seemed pretty decisive.
Also, neat trick by USC losing and gaining two spots.
by Incipient_Senescence on Oct 18, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, there are some oddities in there.
That’s why I posted the spreadsheets. If you can find a systematic flaw that can be fixed via the weights, I’m all ears.
As far as Cincy’s defense; they’ve been good (+0.5 in TD is pretty good), but a lot of the other teams have been much better overall. That with one of the lesser early schedules is hurting their metrics.
Overall, I think that increasing the W/L weight would help a few things. I’ve been seeing that approaching over the last couple of weeks, but I wanted to pass that along to you all first before touching it. And that’s the beauty of the draft system that Brian uses; we have until Tuesday to figure these things out and add in manual overrides where the system fails.
by Hooper on Oct 18, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Penn State over Cincy thing doesn't make much sense to me.
Even if you ascribe to the theory that Cincy’s schedule sucks, Penn State has a pretty weak schedule as well, and beating Minnesota shouldn’t do more for PSU than a win over South Florida (especially since that game was on the road).
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Oct 18, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine with USC moving up.
That was a really solid game by them. Losing a competitive game against a #1/#2ish team is nothing to be ashamed of when you’re in the 25ish range. But yeah, odd. I’ll have to double-check and see if the teams around them lost as well.
by Hooper on Oct 18, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think adjusting W/L is the way to go
All it gets you (in the entire top 25) is:
Boise jumps USC (arguable)
Miami jumps VT (WRONG!)
GT jumps Utah (correct, imo)
Pitt and Idaho jump Ohio State and ’Zona (probably bad)
CMU and USF jump Carolina and TTech (probably bad)
And this is with a fairly substantial increase (25 to 40)
by Incipient_Senescence on Oct 18, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you amp up PED
Cincy falls to VT (boo!), Miami drops one, and Georgia Tech drops like a stone,
but. . . Pitt, Idaho, CMU, and TTech all drop a fair bit. I wonder whether that’s worth it.
by Incipient_Senescence on Oct 18, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lessening 3DO has some interesting effects
I was wondering about it because 3DO favors teams that get 4-5 yards every play over those who can score quickly but can also get into 3rd and long. Knocking it down would pull Bama over Florida, and Penn State would drop like a rock, but VT and Oregon would jump Cincy. BYU would fall big time and LSU would rise. Idaho would fall and Oklahoma would snag a top 25 spot. This was switching it to 3, which I know is dramatic. I feel like some of those results are justified though. Hmmm. I feel like that’s the best option so far, but I don’t know if it’s better than no change.
by Incipient_Senescence on Oct 18, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you can just jack up 3DD to bring LSU back down.
THIRDANDCHAVISTHIRDANDCHAVIS
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Graysnail on Oct 18, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you all enjoyed the spreadsheet.
I kept meaning to put that out there, but I kept tweaking things under the hood.
by Hooper on Oct 19, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we put TCU on hold for one week?
Because if they really deserve a Top 5 ranking, they’ll earn it on Saturday. And Texas might play poorly again, win or lose.
by Will on Oct 18, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not that it takes from your point much,
but USC only lost one spot to Iowa; TCU was already ahead of them.
by Hooper on Oct 19, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate the feedback,
I have a lot of thinking to do over this. Looking through the numbers, there are some oddities that a system like this may not be able to account for. Take Cincinnati, for example. They have a tendency to run out to leads fast and force opponents into passing situations. As a result, they have a lot of interceptions on the year, but an average overall defensive rating. But it’s not just that they’re facing a lot of passes; the opposition is often on the field for a lot more than expected. Fresno State, for example, had 43 minutes of TOP for a total of 84 plays compared to Cincy’s 42. (Yes, 2:1 on plays and Fresno lost 28-20.) Oddly, that was also a game of relatively few passes by Fresno (57 rushes).
In Cincy’s case, defensive fatigue may very legitimately be a factor, although it’s hard to tell.
Regarding TCU: I really don’t have a problem with them up there, personally. They’re playing solid football, especially on defense, and did well in a couple of long distance roadies. (While Virginia is nothing to write home about, their recent win streak is really helping TCU’s cause.) That’s not to say I’d mind them lower either, but I’m fine as is. (In other words: ambivalent.) Honestly, I think they’re the best team in their state.
Penn State is one of those early season headaches. Their schedule is littered with cupcakes, but they’ve steamrolled them as they should. It makes for some difficult scoring. This weekend against Michigan will raise their SOS and probably lower their offense/defense numbers across the board. They could very well win and see their overall score go down. I don’t like them this high either, and I may yet drop them for the final poll.
by Hooper on Oct 19, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on Cincy
No matter what you do, the computer can’t handle them. They’re an enigma.
by Incipient_Senescence on Oct 19, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hence the manual overrides for the final ballot.
’night all. I have a lot to sleep on.
by Hooper on Oct 19, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stopped when I got to #4. TCU at #4 is nonsensical.
I don’t care what the formula says.
by memphispete on Oct 19, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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