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I have not read it all but I sure am gonna!
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by BeantownVol on Oct 20, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha. He definitely fell short on that one. Well, maybe not if you think closely about “the high moral, ethical, and academic standards of the Athletics Department and the University”.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Oct 20, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just to be interested
OTHER than the Florida Recruitment Gaffe — which he admitted was wrong, gave appologies, etcetc — When didn’t he hold himself with “high moral, ethical, and academic standards?” The GPA of the team saw a sharp increase in his first semester of leadership, he kicked players off who were not going to class…
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by bobo_the_vol on Oct 20, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh please, that was not an apology.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Oct 20, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How bout this?
Who cares?
We don’t.
Nobody has gone to jail, nobody has failed out, and nobody has cheated. That’s all that really matters…
I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS
by VolBrian on Oct 20, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nobody has cheated.
with the loose ways in which you guys like to throw that word around, I’m not sure you can really say that. I seem to remember a bunch of secondary violations racked up by Kiffin.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Oct 20, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Z
We both know those don’t count. Unfortunately, Auburn and Alabama refused the FOI request to disclose theirs (hmmmmm) for this past season, but everyone else did, and everyone else had some.
I think the definition of “cheating” normally applied by everyone but Bama is if the NCAA investigated and you lost scholarships, wins, or got probation, then you were cheating.
I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS
by VolBrian on Oct 20, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cheating implies that you did something to gain an advantage. When Auburn gets a pass by the NCAA for giving out free degrees to functional retards (thus keeping them academically eligible) because a couple of non-athletes were also taking the fake classes and Alabama gets punished for this textbook BS, then I think it’s pretty clear that NCAA sanctions aren’t a very good basis for deciding who is cheating.
The textbook thing would have been a non-issue if we weren’t on probation. So if the very same thing happened at another school, according to you it would not be cheating. You don’t need Johnny Cochran to go into the Chewbacca defense to see that that does not make sense.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Oct 20, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lol'd
You don’t need Johnny Cochran to go into the Chewbacca defense to see that that does not make sense.
Very funny.
You made my point far better than I did though. We know what cheating is, and secondary violations aren’t it. That Auburn thing was messed up too. I had forgotten all about that.
I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS
by VolBrian on Oct 20, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but no punishment = no cheating, right?
I’m not trying to make a big deal out of the secondary violations, but if you guys are going to throw that in our face over things like the textbook BS then I think it’s fair game to be ticky-tacky when goading you Viles when you break the rules.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Oct 20, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily
We’ll go with the most simple terms I suppose.
Found guilty of any wrongdoing by NCAA for anything other than a self-reported secondary, regardless of punisment or no, cheating.
Secondary violations that are self-reported do not count. Every school in FBS committed at least one last season. Obviously, if a school does not self-report a secondary, it is no longer a secondary.
Btw, no dig intended, but I find it quite odd the state universities such as Auburn and Alabama are able to decline FOI requests and report secondaries to the NCAA privately. I think we need a lawya for an answer there….
Finally, I know the textbook thing is ticky-tack, but it happened, Bama was found to be repeaters, so they got punished. I certainly am not suggesting that the textbook “scandal” is on par with Albert Means, but what else can be said about that situation? Nobody will remember the textbook thing in two years as long as Bama stops bringing it up.
I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS
by VolBrian on Oct 20, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even that definition
Isn’t perfect because the NCAA is faaaaaaar from an infallible institution, but it’s the only one we have.
I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS
by VolBrian on Oct 20, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Secondary violations can still be cheating, just on a smaller scale. Just because they don’t necessarily come with a punishment doesn’t mean that rules aren’t being broken that give you an advantage, however small (which is the textbook definition of cheating).
So many of the NCAA’s rules are inane and have little to nothing to do with gaining a competitive advantage which should be the basis for any accusation of “cheating”.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Oct 21, 2009 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad
Alabama knows the textbook definition of something. Wouldn’t want that cheating to go to waste ;-)
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Oct 21, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe if they'd
held onto those textbooks a little longer they’d know a lot more.
by ChattVol on Oct 21, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let the record show
That this alabama poster never provided an example of a single instance of Lane Kiffin failing to uphold "the high moral, ethical, and academic standards of the Athletics Department and the University".
I figured you would be able to come up with several textbook examples of such instances. You do have the textbook, no?
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Eric Berry is better at football than you.
by kidbourbon on Oct 22, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let the record show
that i didn’t have to since Bobo brought it up the biggest example himself. Of course there’s also the gas pumping comment, although he’s denied ever saying it. Who knows? I’m not sure I’d take his word over a kid since Kiffin’s already made up lies about Urban Meyer.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Oct 22, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
should be “brought up”
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Oct 22, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Most of the secondary violations were things that are okay in other conferences, where most of these guys are from, and not in the SEC. I don’t know that you can call something that doesn’t have a punishment something serious enough to be called “cheating.”
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Oct 20, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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