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Re: Message From The RTT Admin: Everybody Read

See, I disagree. That fanpost was an excellent idea! It's like a trap for trolls. They log on to RTT, see the bait and take it. Sitting in there and spinning their little webs of delusion, while remaining mostly seperated from rational discussion taking place elsewhere on the site. It should be a weekly feature: The RTT Troll Trap

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re: Is Saban Gonna Jump At The Cash....Again???

There’s probably a little red flashy light that goes off at RTT headquarters when a post goes over 100 comments an hour.

BTW, imagine what that thread would have been like over at RBR?

by golfballs03 on Oct 29, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't agree with that

While that fracas in my Fanpost got downright hilarious and somewhat congenial after a while, I don’t enjoy having to constantly defend Lane Kiffin and the Vols, which I will always do as long as I feel like he’s doing right by the program, the university, and the fans, and as long as our players are giving everything they got.

So, I’ll react to them each and everytime until they stop or until something is done about it otherwise.

In other words, the situation today would have never occured had Zoltar’s post been taken down immediately. If I’m not going to be able to vehemently defend my coach, my team, and my school, then I don’t want to have to wake up and see garbage like that on a site I go to for all things Vols.

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 29, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok, here's the deal.

It wasn’t that one comment thread at all. That this happened at the same time was largely incidental; it was the result of a discussion amongst the three of us, and it just timed out that way.

The point was that most of the discussions were getting bogged down. If it’s contained in an occasional thread here and there, it doesn’t get in the way of the rest of the discussions, that’s perfectly fine. Like I said before, we all have different approaches to our fandom. Some people love getting into the free-for-alls, and that’s fine. It just can’t overload everything to the point that those who don’t like it can’t get away from it. That drives people away and hurts RTT in the long run.

And we’re not blaming anybody in this. What happened was a confluence of events that began loooong before Alabama week and have simply happened to build up to today. Heck, some of the initiating discussions have long since ended, but had spawned off some of the other things that led to today.

And a part of it is that RTT has been growing quite a bit recently, and we as admins may have to change how we run things. For so long, it was like a family and we really did little more than an occasional Fulmerizing, but with growth comes new dynamics, and we’re learning to adjust to them on the fly. That’s another one of those backroom discussions, though, and that’s something we’re trying to flesh out as we go.

Did I tell you all that I appreciate you? I do. :-)

by David Hooper on Oct 29, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

And I'm guilty as well

of linking to a couple of the things that came from outside the site and then led to said bogging-down here. I think we’ve tended to be slightly more lenient towards outside posters who are more well-known around their own communities, but regardless of who wrote what where, as Hooper said, there’s no blame or anything like that. We’re just recognizing the dynamic, and remain appreciative of the love for and loyalty to RTT by many.

by Will Shelton on Oct 29, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I was joking about the Troll Trap. We don’t want them here for anything.

BTW, was it not cool to link to the PTI clip? I didn’t think it would attract so many Bammers.

I think VolBrian was correct in coining this the Great Bammer Troll Invasion of 2009. But I think it was more like an infestation

by golfballs03 on Oct 29, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, I promised I’d be back tonight (in volbrian’s trollbait thread) for the last time until next year and saw that the threads were locked. I do think most people were cordial, and while a few individual posts got personal (and I admit I shouldn’t have responded to those… stupid troll bait! Ya got me, volbrian.), most of it was in good fun. I did submit a few purposeful jabs (example) but didn’t know it was getting that out of hand here.

Being from Tennessee, I respect most of the fans here (and most were respectfully to me), and apologize for anything I’ve done that got out of hand.

Here’s to hoping I don’t need heart meds after the game next year. Don’t let the Bama blogs know this, but I hope the players keep buying into Kiffin like they have; it should make for a stronger team and a better game.

by squinky86 on Oct 29, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Everybody's cool.

That one thread is opened back up. There’s room enough at RTT for bantering with rivals. We just needed to get a little balance restored. We’re glad you had fun with it, and I think we’re all looking forward to a strong game next year. Hopefully both teams will be in the top 10 again when it happens. (A bit optimistic, but hopefully.)

by David Hooper on Oct 29, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't troll bait but

a tit-for-tat for Zoltar’s garbage. Have fun though

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 29, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to start an argument

but don’t blame me for the degradation of the environment in your site, Brian. There’s no way that my Kiffin post should have been taken down on it’s own merits. Seriously, I challenged your coach to call a press conference in which he would intentionally get suspended by the SEC. Are you so defensive that you can’t recognize lighthearted teasing by a rival?

It’s like you can’t say a bleepin thing over here (if you’re not a UT fan) without getting spammed with “troll troll troll” and pics of trolls by certain posters whether it’s deserved or not. Which is SO ironic since Brian and a few others are constantly making cracks about Alabamians being illiterate and other such nonsense or saying stuff like

This leads to delusional morons like Zoltar here because it is all they have in their life (at least sports-wise, they will still always have racism). He thinks he actually made sense in his other post and I pity him for that. Their education is pathetic here as well.

For the record, just because this is your UT site doesn’t absolve you from any trollish behavior.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Oct 29, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, just in time. I do agree that the comment against you was too personal of an attack, which is what the moderators were condemning.

by squinky86 on Oct 29, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you would put up a post to tease Tennessee fans on a Tennessee site

if that’s not trolling, then it’s cutting it close. you shouldn’t be too surprised by the response it elicited.

by golfballs03 on Oct 29, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

I’m done, move on. If you want to trash Kiffin, by all means do so. It’s not funny to any UT fan, and it doesn’t really earn you points with anybody that I know of besides the people back at your site where the stuff belongs, but I guess it helps you feel better about yourself.

So, by all means carry on because I’m done with it all.

In other words, piss off.

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 29, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

What’s going on though, is that there’s a way of saying that without calling someone a “delusional moron” or bringing up charges of racism. That gets into an offensive realm that shouldn’t be traversed.

by squinky86 on Oct 29, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the explanation

But I didn’t say that, nor did I rec it. Save your lectures for the high class posters at Roll Bama Roll. They’ll go farther there.

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 29, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re correct. Zoltar should source his quotations; I took him at his word but need proof for such a statement.

by squinky86 on Oct 29, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t say who it was because I thought that might just stir the pot more, but it was posted by goldballs in the “Is Saban Going to Jump” thread.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Oct 30, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice…

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Oct 31, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oy.

And Slive is asking the coaches to play nice. Does anybody else see the fan/SEC disconnect that’s going on? ;-)

by David Hooper on Oct 31, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, long story short is...

Everyone needs to take a deep breath. No one is saying that other teams’ fans can’t come over here and post. However, if the point of the post is to throw gas on a fire, it really doesn’t add to the discussion. Hey, I love good give and take when it is obviously in fun. Like Hooper said, no one in particular should be blamed. I also agree with Brian in that I don’t want to feel like I have to defend being a Vols fan while visiting RTT. It becomes less fun. For the same reason, I don’t go and post purposefully inflammatory comments on other team sites. I look forward to anyone coming and posting on RTT — even if it is to share an opposing viewpoint. It’s all in the presentation, however. Anyway, that’s my 2 cents (like anyone asked..ha!).

To Strive, To Seek, To Find, and Not to Yield.

by mike2ray on Oct 30, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

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