Janzen Jackson and Mike Edwards released from custody, Vols still gathering info

so long as nothing else happens. Right now this is one isolated event that makes two or three guys look like idiots, and as long as Kiffin handles it properly, I’m going to continue to give him the benefit of the doubt discipline wise. He was plenty harsh on Brandon Warren at a time where Warren looked like a key asset to the offense.

The programs that get the bad reputations for lack of discipline are “serial repeat offenders”, as the NCAA likes to call Alabama. Or, see “Fulmer Cup”. Right now, and if Kiffin and Hamilton handle this well, the dark mark is on the individuals, not the program.

and if that’s all it comes down to and is proven, then I say the kid gets suspended for the rest of the year, including bowl game, which is echoed from several others in the previous thread.

And it could be a thumb that finds him dismissed from the team if he was.

I have been held up at gunpoint twice.. if you don’t have anything it is really not that scary. I got my house broken into by a crackhead with a knife and that was much scarier. These guys probably didn’t seem crazy and desperate while they were doing it and that makes a ton of difference based on my experience.

Unless they are drugged out or crazy it is pretty unlikely someone is just going to shoot you when you show them your empty wallet.

The Red Elephant Club was going to try and hire someone a little more convincing, but we ran out of money getting Keenan Allen to commit.

I’m considering renouncing my fanhood on the basis of the Prius alone.

It doesn’t say anything about him and the weed, though. That news is still out.

Bit of a night owl, I am.

The phrase is a bit of hyperbole. However, I could make a pretty good argument that they shouldn’t have been out at that time at all, given the upcoming game and given both Nuke’s and Janzen’s all-too-recent newsiness.

I’ve only recently boned up on criminal law within the Uniformed Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), and thought this was relevant.

I have no idea if Tennessee statutes handle conspiracy the same way but, from what I’m reading, Jackson could be charged with conspiracy to commit [whatever crime the other two are charged with]. The state would have to prove that he had prior knowledge of intent to commit a crime, and that’s where the lawyering would begin.

JJ’s exhortation to the actual robbers that they leave the scene would not clear him of conspiracy, since it happened after the crime took place.

If he is charged with conspiracy, then he would face the same penalties as those doing the actual stickemup.

but legs!

wonder if that was because Edwards wasn’t initially listed in the news reports or if there’s actually more to it.

But given the timing of it, I’d bet he knew Edwards was involved. Don’t know what to think.

Back then, he made a deal out of doing it right over doing it fast.

The original report said only the female, but it’s also been reported today that it was found on two other people in the car.

…I really hope something that makes some sort of sense comes out soon. It is driving me crazy right now not knowing anything more. I just hope it does not hurt our performance on Saturday.

They should still be kicked off. You have to learn the boundaries, and armed robbery is never funny. “Hahaha, they thought the pellet gun was a real gun.” No. No. Stupid. Although I think I might have friends who would do such a thing (with a paintball gun, not a pellet gun). Still, it’s a dismissal-worthy offense. If Jackson didn’t have anything to do with it, he should be the only one reinstated.

Also, I don’t really know how you expect them to know that the chick has weed on her. I think I mentioned on another thread that I’ve been in a room where people started lighting up and had no idea they even had any until I started smelling it.

i thought the other thread might have been closed….

But doesn’t it say something about the situation when this is the most plausible explanation?

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the funniest part is when he says something like, “well, we were in Knoxville. this kind of thing is bound to happen.”

I like to think that there are certain things that we can discuss outside the bounds of fan loyalty. Felonies ought to be one of them.

it is a good thing they did not take it though b/c they would not be charged with just “attempted robbery.”

They would also probably be charged with hamburgling which has a much stiffer penalty. The prison jumpsuits are striped too.

It is perfectly legitimate to be out at 2 AM and not be up to no good. I’ve done that many times in my undergrad career, as have the majority of college kids. And right now, we just don’t have information to fairly assess whether his nighttime activities were fully innocent or not.

And since so much of his situation now hinges on his intentions, it’s fair for all of us to allow for reasonable possibilities ranging from expulsion to reinstatement.

I’m glad he’s not on the travel list, though. He can use the weekend to get things in order. I’m sure he’ll spend time with his attorney, and he’ll have a chance to make sure his grades are in tip-top shape. (The last thing he needs now is academic trouble.)

But even if he’s completely and totally innocent, and demonstrably so to the satisfaction of all who are willing to listen, I wouldn’t see a problem with suspending him for the remainder of the year. He was already in the doghouse and placed himself into a situation of poor appearance (out late on a school night). Trust rebuilding would be a good idea.

I am so glad this one isn’t in my hands.