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SEC Bowl Tie-Ins: It's good to be king

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We use this picture because it's awesome. And because LSU still has a $4.25 million dollar payday waiting for them in Orlando.

As we enter the final three weeks of the regular season, thoughts turn to the holidays and potential bowl destinations across the country.  In the SEC - where we're the best and we know it - everyone in the conference not named Vanderbilt is still in the hunt for bowl eligibility.  And though Mississippi State will need to go 2-1 against Alabama, Arkansas and Ole Miss to get there, the other ten teams still left in the hunt should all find their way to the six wins necessary to become bowl eligible. 

Five teams are already there, Arkansas should make six when they play Troy on Saturday, and Tennessee and Kentucky can both get there by beating Vanderbilt (among others).  Ole Miss needs just one win against the Vols, LSU or Mississippi State.  The toughest road may belong to Georgia at 5-4, who will host Auburn and Kentucky before traveling to Georgia Tech.  But as John Adams pointed out two weeks ago, nothing strange has to happen for the conference to get ten, the favorites simply need to win.

And if the conference gets two teams in the BCS as expected, the league will have a bowl tie-in ready and waiting for the other eight.  And as we'll see, there's a huge division between the top half of the conference and the bottom when it comes to bowl placement, which will be especially interesting in a crowded middle of the pack this season.  The difference between Shreveport and January could come down to one loss.

Getting ten teams bowl eligible is an incredible accomplishment, and speaks highly in its own right of the conference's strength from top to bottom.  The SEC has sent nine teams to bowls before, including last year, but never ten - only recently could teams like Kentucky be counted on for consistent bowl eligibility, and outside of trusty Vanderbilt you can make the argument that there's really not a bad team in this conference.  

But it's not just the presence of eight bowl tie-ins outside the BCS that makes the SEC special, it's which bowls against which opponents: 

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The BCS takes the six major conference champions, plus four at-large bids (with opportunities set aside for a mid-major champion and Notre Dame if they meet the criteria).  When a conference sends a team to the BCS via an at-large bid (which the SEC has done six times in eleven years, and almost certainly will again this year) then what's represented as the #2 conference team in the bowl selection process really becomes the #3 conference team...but you get the idea.

So, take a look at the fate of the second best team in every major conference outside the SEC:

  • ACC #2:  Chick-Fil-A Bowl
  • Big East #2:  Gator Bowl
  • Big 10 #2:  Capital One Bowl
  • Big 12 #2:  Cotton Bowl
  • Pac 10 #2:  Holiday Bowl

That means that three of the five conference runners-up face teams from the SEC in bowls.  No other conference has anything even remotely as prestigious in their bowl tie-ins.  If we go ahead and include both Florida and Alabama in the BCS this year, the SEC's bowl breakdown will look like this:

  • SEC #1:  BCS Championship Game OR Sugar Bowl
  • SEC #2:  Sugar Bowl OR other BCS
  • SEC #3 vs. Big 10 #2 (Capital One)
  • SEC #4a (East) vs. Big 10 #3 (Outback)
  • SEC #4b (West) vs Big 12 #2 (Cotton)
  • SEC #6 vs. ACC #2 (Chick-Fil-A)

Simply put, just being in the top half of SEC teams is equivalent to being the second best team in most of the other conferences in terms of bowl availability.  Playing on the sacred January 1 date - a sure sign of a successful season for the vast majority of college football teams - is an honor bestowed on only the Pac 10 Champion, two teams in the ACC, Big East and Big 12, the three best teams in the Big 10...but the SEC has four autmoatic tie-ins with January 1 (or later), which will become five this season with two in the BCS.

If all things were equal, you would assume the second best team in one conference should handle the sixth best team in another.  But take a look at the SEC's record over the duration of these matchups in the BCS era:

  • SEC Champions in BCS National Championship Games:  5-0
  • SEC Champions in other BCS Bowls:  3-3
  • SEC at-large teams in BCS Bowls:  4-2
  • Capital One Bowl:  4-7
  • Cotton Bowl:  6-5
  • Outback Bowl:  6-5
  • Chick-Fil-A Bowl:  7-4

In the Cotton, Outback and Chick-Fil-A, despite sending teams that finished lower in the SEC Standings than their opponents did in their conferences, the SEC has a winning record.  Having the sixth best team in the SEC go to the same bowl as the second best team from the ACC may not sound fair, but the SEC's sixth best team is getting it done on the field.

The rest of the SEC's bowl breakdown is less attractive, but again, here we're dealing with teams in the lower half of the conference:

  • SEC #7 vs. Conference USA #1 (Liberty)
  • SEC #8 vs. ACC #5 (Music City)
  • SEC #9 vs. Big 12 #7 (Independence)
  • SEC #10 vs. Big East #4 (PapaJohns.com Bowl)

This is also about more than just prestige and placement - like most things, it's also about money.  Any BCS qualifier receives a $17 million dollar payout.  Guess what the next four richest bowl bids are?

  • Capital One Bowl:  $4.25 million
  • Outback Bowl:  $3.1 million
  • Chick-Fil-A Bowl:  $3 million
  • Cotton Bowl:  $3 million

If the SEC gets ten teams bowl eligible this season, the conference will pull in over $52 million dollars.  The next closest conference, even if it sent two teams to the BCS and filled all of their bowl allocations, would be the Big Ten at around $47 million, mostly because they share in the Capital One and Outback payouts.  No other conferences even come close.

And the rich are getting richer:  next season, the SEC and the Big Ten will send teams to the Gator Bowl, bumping the ACC and Big East from January 1 and adding to the riches - the Gator Bowl is the most lucrative bowl not currently associated with the SEC at $2.5 million per team.  The fact that this move comes at the expense of the Independence Bowl...well, we're all okay with that.  December and January are - and will continue to be - even more proof that life is good in the SEC, and it's getting better every day.

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That Chick-fil-a bowl record is IMPRESSIVE

If UT could play in the Georgia Dome, it’d be 9-2. So let’s not try that again this year. Let’s beat Ole Miss and play in the Outback Bowl, where we’ll have a 10-2 Big Ten team waiting for us (since they’re going to finish with a four way tie at 10-2).

by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Who would you want to play the most?

I see Ohio State going to the Rose Bowl, which means that, I think, it’d go Iowa, Penn State, Wisconsin. Do we want Penn State? For that matter, do we want Wisconsin? I’d definitely rather have the Badgers, given recent freakin history with the Lions Penn State’s defense.

Though, how do you figure a 4-way tie at 10-2? Think Iowa will lose to Minnesota but beat the Buckeyes, or think that Ohio State will lose to Meeshigan but beat the Hawkeyes? Why are they all eyes, anyways? You don’t need eyes to play football!

Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!

by bobo_the_vol on Nov 9, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to see

Wisconsin or Iowa. I want a win in the bowl game for sure, and I think both of those teams would be fairly easy for us.

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
Lane Kiffin owns lake-front property in Corch Urbie Meyers's head.

by VolBrian on Nov 9, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I second the Iowa statement

More because the press that has been around Iowa would make it a great match up against Tennessee, but I also think it is very winnable.

by Muhler on Nov 9, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

Very winnable. We are used to playing tough physical defenses in the SEC. Iowa has that. But their offense is less-than-mediocre. Think South Carolina as a decent comparison.

by memphispete on Nov 29, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

According to Brandon Spikes you don't.........
You don’t need eyes to play football!

set ’em up and I knock ’em down

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
Lane Kiffin owns lake-front property in Corch Urbie Meyers's head.

by VolBrian on Nov 9, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I struck through nothing!

Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!

by bobo_the_vol on Nov 9, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can you imagine Kiffin and Joe Pa?

We lost under Fulmer because Joe Pa had a month to break down our tendencies under Fulmer. Since most educated Vol fans could call the plays based on down and distance, surely Joe Pa could, too.

But Kiffin is less predictable – although the roll-out with RB short, TE middle and other WR deep is getting that way. So, we’d fare better – especially if some guys get healthy again.

The press would have a field day with a Kiffin- JoePa match up- the nation’s youngest coach against the nation’s oldest (seemingly).

by memphispete on Nov 29, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Torn about a Bowl Match up.....

Well guys I’m kinda torn on this one. I was at the last Outback Bowl (in the rain). Where we GAVE Penn State the game. I did feel good about us and Wisconsin in the outback bowl but really I’ll tell you I hate to think we would have to loose a game to get this…… ( I REALLY do want us to win out from here) but……… I want the UT vs. VT match up in ATL. This is a match up made in HEAVEN for me. I’m only 45 min. from the VT campus and the local times here just can say NOTHING bad about VT even in a recient loss to GT that was nothing short of an embarassing show of TOTALLY being out coached. So I guess it will be what it will be but god how I’d love to shut up those “CHOKIES” and show them what REAL SEC football is all about. After all they say …. well we played Bama already……. Geeeze … give me a break!

by Roanoke_Vol on Nov 9, 2009 4:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There's no one I'd rather play than VT

I’m just on the other side of Blacksburg, and lots of them want this matchup, no surprise. I in no way want us to lose to anybody, and if we win out I just don’t see any way we fall to the Chick-Fil-A Bowl…but if we lost to Ole Miss, I’d get over it the day they announced a UT/VT matchup in Atlanta.

by Will on Nov 9, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't

I promised my girlfriend that we’d hang out on New Year’s Eve and that I would limit myself to one sporting event on the day. If UT is in the Peach, I have to choose between UT football and UT basketball. If we’re in the Outback, I get UT games two days in a row.

by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Aren't certain promises made to be broken?

I’m all for keeping your word with respect to marriage fidelity and other key issues, but this is UT Football and Basketball we are talking about here! If she can’t accept two events in one day (a bowl game among them), then she’s not worth keeping. Train her now and it will pay dividends later.

(Trust me – working on 20 years of being happily married and we watched UT beat Virginia by one pt on our honeymoon. The game was broadcast in a foreign language. And, btw, you give elsewhere to make her sacrifice work for you. It evens out.)

by memphispete on Nov 29, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Yes. Yes

I want to play VT sooooo bad. And we would win.

________________________________
Eric Berry is better at football than you.

by kidbourbon on Nov 10, 2009 7:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Outback Bowl is nice but......

I really did enjoy the Outback Bowl. The stadium was nice, people were friendly, the beach pep rally was a blast, and the weather was fantastic for all the days that I was there EXCEPT for game day. With that being said….. We have been to the Outback Bowl so much in recient years that even if we lost a game and went to the Chick-fil-a bowl I think that MOST folks (myself included) would consider a win in the chick-fil-a bowl the icing on the cake for a great year under a new 1st year coach. God knows a win over Bama or the gators would have added alot to that but really how many of us thought that we would see the kind of attitude change and progress that this program has undertaken this year? Really this has been and hopefully will continue to be a groth year where we far exceed our own and everyone else’s expectations of the 1’st year of “The Kiffin Era”

by Roanoke_Vol on Nov 9, 2009 5:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I want the highest on possible.

Capital One first (lose, LSU!), Outback second, and so on. The last-year players have been through so much garbage that I want their final year to end as brightly as possible. Think about it: we still have guys from the 2005 recruiting class on board. 2005.

The matchups can be set aside. Get the best possible game for them.

by Hooper on Nov 9, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What Hooper said

After this week, it’s go UT, Ole Miss, and Arkansas! (This week, of course, it’s still go UT, just not Ole Miss).

by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hope to see the Vols in the CFA Bowl

Please….please take care of business this week so Ole Miss doesn’t make a bowl at 6-6. I’m all for the advancement of our SEC reign, but I hate the Rebels.

Lee Corso: How would you describe tailgating at Alabama?
Kirk Herbstreit: Barbecue and Ralph Lauren

by animalcracker on Nov 9, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We'll try ;-)

Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!

by bobo_the_vol on Nov 10, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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