NCAA investigating Tennessee's use of hostesses in recruiting: fallout from aggressive recklessness?
Well. While y'all and the rest of the sports world were discussing the NCAA's investigation into Tennessee's recruiting practices and its use of its hostess program, I was recovering from some particularly nasty bug, watching reruns of JAG in the dark on the sofa for the past two days. For what it's worth, here's my take.
Let me start with what I don't know, either because it hasn't been reported, it is still in dispute, or just because I'm playing catch up and haven't seen it yet. First, I don't know all of the pertinent NCAA rules except for the one that reportedly prohibits university representatives from recruiting players off campus. I have no reason to doubt that, but there are obviously some exceptions to that rule. Coaches go to high school games and players' homes, right? What other exceptions might there be? I also don't know whether the NCAA is more interested in the hostesses' trip to the South Carolina game or their use of social media to communicate with recruits. I don't know if the hostesses were asked to do any of that by the coaching staff or whether they did it on their own. I don't know whether or how much that matters, whether they can put on and take off their hostess hats or whether once they join the program the word HOSTESS is stamped onto their foreheads until they graduate or leave the program.
So, there's a lot we don't yet know, and it's probably best to just wait and see what the investigation uncovers, what rules are implicated, what those rules actually mean, and how they apply to the situation.
I do, however, have a couple of preliminary thoughts. First, assuming that the NCAA rules don't expressly address the use of social media in communicating with recruits, I would bet that Kiffin and his staff are not only using it but are pushing the limits with it and that other coaches have turned them in for it. Why? It's happened before.
Back in February, 2009, I posed this question to Bruce Feldman, author of Meat Market, the seminal book on college football recruiting:
RTT: Back in 2006, there were reports that some unidentified coach had been reported by some seven different schools for alleged recruiting violations. Do you think it was Orgeron they were reporting, and what do you think it was all about? Could it have had something to do with Orgeron's staff videotaping prospects at their high school practices, which I understand was a loophole that Orgeron had discovered and was exploiting before anyone else had thought of it?
FELDMAN: Honestly, there’s probably not a coach in the country who starts doing well on the recruiting trial that hasn’t been allegedly "reported" for some supposed recruiting violations. Remember the mess around Nick Saban down in Florida or the Urban Meyer/Carl Moore stories? Ron Zook? I think the thing that happens quite a bit is some coach tells a reporter they know "Off the record, just a heads up here: The league office might be looking into so-and-so for some recruiting violations . . . . " And then it appears as a blind item in some notes column, a blog or on some message board, and how often does anything really substantial come of it? Very rarely.
The videotaping of practices and basketball games and just about anything else Orgeron could get his assistants to observe while they were out on the road apparently caught a lot of other college coaches off guard. There was a lot of suspicion about what the Rebel coaches were up to. But Ole Miss had checked with its compliance office and found out it wasn’t against the rules so Orgeron had them all go out on the road with camcorders. I’ll never forget how fired up Orgeron was to see that footage of Bradley Sowell doing footwork drills or Chris Walker flying all over the basketball court.
One thing I learned about Lane Kiffin and his staff this season is that they're aggressive. There's been a lot of talk about the six secondary violations Kiffin's had since he's been here and the many comments Kiffin's made to and about other SEC coaches and SEC officials, and one of the main questions is whether this is all a result of sheer stupidity or some intentional master plan.
I think it's neither of those as much as it is just planned aggression, a sort of intentional recklessness with an understanding that it can be high risk, high reward, or a combination of both. On the field, if you go for the 1st on 4th down, you might keep a drive alive and even go on to score. On the other hand, you could give half the field to your opponent. Off the field, aggression can get you additional scrutiny and increase the odds of violations of the many rules of an over-regulated area, but it can also get you an excellent recruiting class.
One of the areas in which Kiffin is aggressive is in exploiting loopholes and soft spots in the regulations and directives from authorities, which is often viewed as an unfair advantage by others who are not as aggressive. Orgeron's use of video cameras at high school camps and practices is just one example. It ticked off the other SEC coaches who either hadn't thought of it or weren't innovative enough to see the benefit of new technology that wasn't expressly prohibited by the rules. Perhaps they were a bit timid or more submissive to the over-careful compliance department and would rather report Orgeron and get a ruling from the authorities than try it themselves. If I remember correctly, Nick Saban's use of video conferencing a couple of years back was the same sort of thing.
Perhaps Facebook and MySpace and Twitter is the new mode of communication with recruits that is not actually prohibited. I don't know, because I haven't actually looked at the rules, but I know that bodies that tend to overregulate every little thing are usually playing catch up to technology.
According to Feldman, rivals ratting out other coaches for trying something new happens all of the time, and that's exactly what I think may have happened here, especially considering the source of the original report.
The very first thing that struck me about the original article was that it came from the New York Times. The New York Times? Really? Not ESPN's Chris Low (long the best-sourced reporter on UT athletics) or a Knoxville beat reporter like Wes Rucker or Austin Ward? Not someone from the South Carolina local media?
Why is that? Was it perhaps, as Feldman suggested nearly a year ago, because these guys are always hearing stuff like this and recognizing it for what it is? Maybe they really hadn't already heard and discounted it, and maybe they would have done exactly the same thing the NYT guys did had they gotten it first, but I doubt that they would have used the phrase "oral commitment" (recruiting experts use the phrase "verbal commitment") or exaggerated for effect the six secondary violations Tennessee's had over the past year without also mentioning that that number pales in comparison to several other notable schools that are not getting nearly as much publicity for it.
No, it looks to me like somebody fearful of the possible high-reward of Kiffin's intentional aggression took the complaint to reporter who knew little about college football recruiting with the hopes that he would buy the exaggerated version and hit the publish button.
At least that's what I hope it is -- Kiffin and his staff poking at the soft spots in the rules and permissively exploiting loopholes inadvertently left open by the rules committee. Or hostesses acting on their own without a full knowledge of the rules. Or whatever set of facts results in either no violation or an inadvertent violation of rules due to an aggressive recruiting culture.
Of course, it's also quite possible that Kiffin and his staff either didn't know the rules or didn't interpret them correctly and will get the program it's first major violation for this. Or that it doesn't matter, and the hostesses acting on their own constitutes a major violation. We just don't know all of the facts yet or the rules that will be implicated or how they'll be applied to the facts that are discovered.
We just have to wait and see.
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I don't know what the rules are
But if there’s a rule stating that any of these part-time hourly wage folks are always representatives of UT and thus can’t interact with recruits socially in a non-official capacity, it might be the most absurd rule I’ve heard yet.
by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 10, 2009 8:51 AM EST reply actions
CONSPIRACY!
al davis & mike slive are secret BFFs, and together wish to reduce CLK to a withering pile of mush.
just a joke (i hope).
...and we shall eat only the red skittles...
by thetennesseethumper on Dec 10, 2009 9:10 AM EST reply actions
What we are hearing in SC
Now I’m just gonna report what I heard, since I have family members who go to Byrnes HS. I heard this and immediately called my cousin who plays TE at Byrnes, he heard something to this effect.
The rumor is that Marcus Lattimore was called by some of these hostesses and invited to a hotel room. ML said no, and called his Offensive coach Bobby Bentley (who was formerly the HC at Byrnes, he just came back) and BB went to the room to check it out. BB did, and called both USC and the NCAA, and had a very long conversation that night. The word was that UT is out of favor with the coaches at Byrnes, and thats why the ladies were sent. The hotel room was billed to a UT credit card.
Color me skeptical
The daughter of a business associate of mine was a member of the Orange Pride. She is an attorney now. Not even close to the salacious image painted by the NYT.
The national image is that UT pimps its hostesses out to top recruits. Thanks, New York Times.
Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.
by pound the rock on Dec 10, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
The Head Coach...
…of a high school football team went to a hotel room to check out and see if a bunch of college girls were there? On top of that supposedly the Tennessee credit card was used? Honestly, this does not sound even plausible.
I am not a Tennessee fan, but it seems like some more secondary violations that will probably not lead to anything important. I think the 300lb gorilla in the room, Tennessee pimping hostesses, has cuaght the attention of most people. It makes a great story, sort of He Got Game feel to it.
This is why I hate rumors so much.
If this is indeed true, it’ll come out eventually. There’s no need for any rush in the matter on our end.
If this didn’t happen, then these hostesses are getting their reputations obliterated in the public sphere for something they didn’t do. Even if it’s proven wrong later, this stuff will still be out there and still be referenced on occasion.
I’ve got time. I can sit back and wait for things to unfold. It saves me from either defending a guilty person or accusing an innocent.
that rumor is ridiculous
Living in Alabama is like living 50 years in the past, they are still just as racist, just as educated, the state constitution forbids any kind of public transportation, and all they can talk about is Bear Bryant
Yeah...
and my cousin Nadine’s half sister’s boyfriend’s father-in-law is the janitor at the Holiday Inn and he supposedly said he saw Layla Kiffin in the lobby handing out room keys. When I heard that, I called my chiropractor (who happens to know Ed Orgeron’s massage therapist) right away, and he said, yeah, it has to be true, because the lady at the First Tennessee branch he uses printed out the certified check used to pay for the rooms. So the credit card rumor is not true
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
by sddbaker on Dec 10, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
malicious intent
I thought this stuff usually was quietly passed on to the NCAA for review, not simultaniously sent to a media outlet that has no other obvious connection to the school or territory. This is a smeer job. Some damage has already been done as this has been picked up and run with gleefully by all the local and national print, radio and TV sports entertainment outlets who have no regard for facts or truth. So NYT is now competing with tabloids but without the shocking pictures. Reporting or rumor mucking is a great job, just throw out inuendos and accuations with no need to rectract or apologize if such turns out not to be true.
by phil g on Dec 10, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I decided to defend us over on TSK and remembered something that happened to me a couple years ago
Five years ago last week, I went to a scholarship weekend at a small D-II school that was recruiting me for soccer. I met a girl there, we hit it off, played midnight Frisbee together, and exchanged AIM names (this was before I even owned a cell phone). I saw her online one night (when I was watching the 4-12 Dolphins pick off Tom Brady 4 times to upset the 14-2 Patriots) and decided to send her an IM. Well, one thing turned into another, and we ended up sending each other frequent messages over the next couple months. In the spring, I even drove nearly 200 miles (she lived in South Carolina; I lived in Tennessee) to see her Miss ____ High School pageant. While I was there, she even stopped by my hotel room (before anyone gets any ideas, my sister was with me. nothing happened). In May, she made the nearly 200 mile trek to go to prom with me.
Does any of that sound familiar? The only thing missing is that she wasn’t a hostess at the school (although we called them “ambassadors”). But if she had been, this relationship apparently would’ve been a recruiting violation. Which I can’t even say with a straight face. Does the NCAA even realize how much of a joke it’d be if this is really how this rule should be enforced?
by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 10, 2009 2:00 PM EST reply actions
Technically...
That could be considered a violation, as anyone who has ever attended the school is considered a booster. Including current students.
yes, if a recruit happens to come on this site
and he reads an article wishing that he would come to Tennessee authored by a student (aka representative) at Tennessee, then it’s probably a violation of NCAA rules, and the New York Times is going to write a story about how that recruit was lured to Tennesse (using as many sexual enuendoes as possible)
Dan Brooks...
Was present at a Byrnes game, saw the signs… called Clemson’s compliance office who notified the ACC… who then notified the NCAA and SEC.
A full investigation would already be underway if there was a clear connection to UT literally whoring out young college students for athletes.
If anything, here's our problem...
NCAA bylaw 13.01.4; 13.1.2.4 which states that no representative of an athletic departments interest, i.e. booster,etc, may attend a game in which a prospective student athlete participates, inform the prospective athlete of the institution’s interest, and correspond with the prospect through email.
Link to NCAA rules: http://www.waterpoloplanet.com/HTML_Hunkler_pages/pdf/NCAA%20Manuals/Division_1_Manual_2008-09e9e568a1-c269-4423-9ca5-16d6827c16bc.pdf
Starts about page 77 with the explanation and section 13.02.13 has the definition for who is considered a representative. Looks like the girls would be considered representatives by virtue of their membership in the Orange Pride group. However, based on Miller’s father’s comments there appears to be some disagreement as to whether a sign reading “Come to TN,” was displayed at all. Similarly, if the girls were acting without the direction of the university, as it appears, should be no more than a minor, secondary violation if anything. Miller’s father even went on to suggest that he was dating the coed in question. If this is an isolated incident conducted without the authorization of the university; we should be fine.
'My advice to defensive players: Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in a bad humor.' - Bowden Wyatt / Tennessee
The only question I have...
Is who is tipping off New York Times reporters… if it’s Clemson’s coach that really doesn’t make much sense.
Good question.
It could have been somebody within the NCAA. They’re all sports fans in there; I’m sure they all have their favorite teams as well.
Pretty much.
The signs themselves are a non-issue, so long as they weren’t advertisements for porn sites or something. (And that’s a completely different issue.) But this is looking like nothing more than a college kid watching a high school football game.
this thing is going nowhere
but the media wanted to sensationalize it and ride it for all it was worth

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