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Lets talk point guard play

I was high on Bobby Maze over the summer and early in this season. Guess what I still am. I think that the style of play and substitution patterns that Bruce and Company have implemented are not suited to Maze’s game. Back when Maze was playing over 30 minutes a game Tennessee looked like a different team to me. The flow was there the pace was up and our transition game was much more effective. I am a firm believer that the Point position is so important that it takes playing a lot of minutes to run it effectively. So what happens when your minutes drop to around 20-25 minutes? Well you get out of the flow, you lose your rhythm. 25 minutes a game for a point guard? that 15 minutes on the bench(or basically an entire half of play). That’s like benching your QB halfway through the third quarter. Its just a insane strategy with the Vols style of play this year. Lets compare to others in the SEC: Meeks-Kentucky 34.7 mpg(39 vs. Vols), Calathes-Florida 32.9 mpg(28 vs. Vols), Beal-Vandy 32.8 mpg(34 vs Vols), Fortson-Ark. 32.6 mpg(37 vs. Vols), Huertas-Ole Miss 32.3 mpg(white 32 vs. Vols), Downy-SC 32.2 mpg(37 vs. Vols), Gee-Ala. 32.0 mpg, Stewart-Miss St. 31.3 mpg, Reed-Aub. 31.1 mpg(37 vs. Vols), Thorton, LSU 30.6 mpg(37 vs. Vols),—-> MAZE 25.8 that ranks 41st in mpg among SEC players and he is a starting Point Guard. I for one think this is a huge mistake. With the opponents averaging around 35 mpg I don’t think our style of play is Waring anybody down and neither is our 1-2 punch at point guard even landing many jabs. Also it seems like almost every game the other teams Guard goes off for a career game. So why is Maze losing minutes? In a attempt to get Josh Tabb minutes? We needed a PG to relieve Maze when necessary not to split time with him at a seemingly 5 minutes on, 5 minutes off pattern. Maze leads Tabb in practically every stat, including steals and blocks. I don’t know why everybody Touts Tabb as a lock down defender. I don’t see it. I would rather see Tabb get his minutes back at the two or Three and give him a chance to do what he has admitted he is more comfortable with. I know some people will argue that Maze isn’t playing good enough to play more then he is. I say you don’t know what he might do if he didn’t have to sit every four-five minutes. Sometimes you have to consider what could be happening instead of focusing on what is happening now. I would also say I could see the point of the Tabb/Maze combination if I could see where it has helped us at all on either side of the ball, in my opinion it has not helped us it has hurt us. Substitutions have frustrated me all year. Sometimes you have to go with the hot players and not just substitute religiously by the clock. Another example of this was the LSU game when Chism and Negedu were the hot players and Chism was sat at the six minute mark just after he led the Vols back from a 12 point deficit and did not return until the 3 minute mark Tennessee could not build a lead with Chism on the bench. Negedu sat the final 3 minutes. That game was won in the final two minutes. Sorry for the ranting, but the good news is that the Vols are still tied for the SEC East. But I wouldn’t be logging onto Vegas.com and placing any big wagers. I love the Vols and I love what Pearl has done, I hope it gets it back on track. Go Vols Beat Kentucky

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Interesting point.

Like I’ve said before, I’m not a basketball guy, so I’ll have to defer the conversation to those who know better. I do firmly believe that strong point guard play is the most important element to a team (especially offensively). I also think that Pearl was expecting West to be the guy until the NCAA decided they’d mess around with him and yank his scholly partway through a semester. (Serious side conversation there: why couldn’t West keep the scholly and simply not play? He was already in classes and the payment deadline had already passed.)

by David Hooper on Feb 20, 2009 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

Maze is still getting most of the time, from what I can tell.

That’s according to KenPom, though (I think I’m really going to like this site once I figure out more about it). Shockingly, he’s 2nd on the team in percentage of minutes played (beyond Tyler Smith; Chism – and, to an extent, JP Prince – apparently get in a fair amount of foul trouble) at 65, while Tabb’s closer to 40. Tabb seems to be a smarter shooter, but …that seems about it. I wonder how much of this has to do with Pearl’s desire to shoot threes; Tabb is just behind Hopson in 3-pt percentage, but with 1/4th the attempts.

Honestly, I’m not totally sure I get it, and I’m not familiar enough with the metrics to be able to study them and come to some kind of conclusion.

by Chris Pendley on Feb 20, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Hooper, your right I think Bruce was counting on West making an impact. Hopefully we will next year. I will even concede that if the guy has to be Tabb then let him play 30 plus minutes. This you play five and i’ll play five pattern is just not working. As far as the West scholly I am not sure what happened there or what the rules even are. Alot of people talk about evaluating talent i.e. with Fulmer and now Kiffin, I wonder if Pearls achillies heel maybe his evaluation of Point Guard play. He pulled that stunt in the Tourney last year by inserting J.P. the week of a sweet sixteen game. (not very smart) oh well nobody is perfect

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by voljunkie on Feb 20, 2009 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

point guard play is good but not as good as it used to be.

let me tell you guys. i’ve whatched basketball all my life and i know for a fact that point guard play is getting worse every year. yeah its decent but its most point guards arnt playing team ball anymore, instead they are hogging the ball and playing like they are all lebron james but they arnt because they cant finish a freaking shot!

by gl31024 on Feb 27, 2009 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

As I often say, I'm certianly no basketball expert.

But I firmly believe that a team’s success is most strongly tied to the play of their point guard. If they have a guy at point who can efficiently run the offense and knows how to maximize their chances of success, they’ll be a team that “overperforms”. If the point doesn’t have the whole team concept, they’ll never reach their potential.

by David Hooper on Feb 27, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

thats why I would love to see one point guard, if it is Maze fine if it is Tabb fine, but just pick one and let him run the game, I still dont understand the whole substitution by clock method. Pearl subs based on time and not according to how a player is playing. just one of my small gripes.

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by voljunkie on Feb 28, 2009 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

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