SEC Basketball Live Game Thread: For Non-UT Games This Weekend
by David Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 3:27 PM EST
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PrintKentucky's loss to LSU (73-70) puts the Vols back in control of their own destiny for the East. While a USC loss doesn't directly help the Vols' cause, it might provide some "fire insurance" should the Vols not sweep the rest of the season. [Note by hooper, 02/28/09 6:50 PM EST ]
South Carolina falls to Vanderbilt 96-83, which means the winner of tomorrow's Florida/Tennessee matchup will move into a first-place tie with the Gamecocks, and the loser will be at 8-6 with Kentucky and in bad shape all around. [Note by Will, 02/28/09, 11:14 PM EST]
Will pointed out so many SEC games this weekend that are relevant to UT's interests, I felt that it'd be good to have a place where we can leave comments on what we see. Beyond the ever-important wins and losses that will affect UT's conference standings, there are also scouting interests involved; we may see one (or more!) of these teams in the conference tournament, so it'd be good to have a feel for how they're playing at this point in the season.
So consider this thread as informal as its introduction. If you're watching any of the non-UT SEC games this weekend and have something to say, here's your spot. Likewise, if you're curious if any of us have any observations, this should serve as one-stop shopping. It likely won't be as busy as a Tennessee thread, but I would expect a few quips among the obsessed.
The games that Will pegged as most relevant are in bold print:
Saturday, February 28
- LSU at Kentucky - 4:00 PM - CBS
- Alabama at Ole Miss - 4:00 PM - ESPN360
- Auburn at Miss. State - 6:00 PM - ESPN 360
- South Carolina at Vanderbilt - 9:00 PM - ESPNU
I'll be studying at the library throughout most of the afternoon/evening, but I'll probably keep the LSU/UK tilt on 360, and may get some of the USC/Vandy game if things work out.
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Apologies for the last-second nature of this thread, by the way.
If I had actually thought of this before, I would have prepped it and given you all some warning.
And a correction:
360 won’t carry the Kentucky game (CBS), but CBS does have online video for you.
(Link opens in a new window.)
A Kentucky loss
Means they’re basically out of the tourney, barring a SEC final run. Their composite numbers are pretty terrible.
by Chris Pendley on Feb 28, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
You have to give the NCAA tourney this much: they dangle hope in front of everybody until the last possible moment.
Even if Kentucky were to lose out in the season, they can still hope to win the SEC tourney and snag the autobid like Georgia did last year.
by David Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Do we think UK has to run the table?
Doing so would get them in for sure at 11-5 in the SEC, I’d have to think…but if they went 10-6 and didn’t get in, they’d be the first team in the history of the conference to win 10 and not get in. Plus, they’re Kentucky.
by Will Shelton on Feb 28, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Not quite.
I think they need to go 2-1 – well, 3-2 over their next 5 at worst. (Yes, I think they need a tourney win.) This is, frankly, a pretty average conference. Remember how badly we mocked the ACC in football this year? It’s like that.
For the record, we’re playing the part of Virginia Tech, Kentucky is Florida State, Florida is North Carolina, and South Carolina is Georgia Tech. And yes, Alabama is Duke.
by Chris Pendley on Feb 28, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
That's cool
Virginia Tech won it. There’s no substitute for LSU.
3-2 over their next 5 sounds about right.
by Will Shelton on Feb 28, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I was trying to figure out who they'd be.
Probably Boston College.
by Chris Pendley on Feb 28, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps the Library server isn't allowing the CBS feed through.
That’d be the first time they blocked a feed, but it’s possible. I’m using the audio stream instead.
by David Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Tennessee doesn't have a firewall!
I suspect you’re getting blacked out on the online feed because it’s on locally.
by Chris Pendley on Feb 28, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Good point.
Let me check some of the other games.
by David Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Bingo.
The other videos come through just fine.
by David Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting points Tim Brando made about John Brady
As much as we love him, you have to wonder how he’s feeling right now, watching all his players go 24-4 with another coach.
Patrick Patterson misses an alley oop and lands on his butt...
And Kentucky gives up a 30 footer on the other end. That’s what kind of year it’s been…when they’re not playing Tennessee.
They don't look like they have ti together at all today.
It’s games like these that make me think they’re not a tourney team.
by Chris Pendley on Feb 28, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
It's odd, that.
They have clunkers against most of the rest of the SEC, but light things up against Tennessee. It’s not a motivation thing; it’s not like they didn’t have motivation against Vandy either.
by David Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Patterson's making up for it, though.
He pretty much is their team right now.
by Chris Pendley on Feb 28, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Good first half for UT.
No LSU player is in real foul trouble, though the 2 on Mitchell is unfortunate. The 8-point lead means that UK will have to stretch themselves a bit. If LSU starts the second half poised, UK may find themselves in a deep hole quickly.
Here's a good question
For the BlogPoll…who would you put at #1 right now? I’m morally opposed to dropping Pitt back behind UConn when they just beat them on the road…UNC won by 30 today against Georgia Tech, Oklahoma is back healthy with Griffin…Memphis is out there too, they may get some votes. Who would you give it to?
Wait to see how Oklahoma plays today.
I don’t see a reason to deny them if he’s at full health. If not…. I’m not sure.
What about a Louisville, if they win tomorrow?
by Chris Pendley on Feb 28, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
No argument that they've played better in their last four
Than anyone in the country probably. But they’re playing a depleted Marquette team tomorrow, so that won’t look as impressive if they keep winning. The 33 point loss to Notre Dame was just two weeks ago, and that would be putting a five loss team ahead of a handful of teams with three.
My gut is leaning towards UNC. We’ll see.
by Will Shelton on Feb 28, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see a problem with UNC either.
I was just trying to avoid going with the obvious choice.
by Chris Pendley on Feb 28, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Coach K picked up a chair to throw it
…and then thought better of it. Duke responded with five straight points, up 11 at Virginia Tech with 11 to play.
Speaking of Virginia Tech....
Here they come! Down 5 now.
by Chris Pendley on Feb 28, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
LSU went out for pizza during halftime and hasn't come back yet.
Those all-you-can-eat buffets are killer.
Kentucky was up 1!
In the time it took for me to type this, LSU went up 1 – and now Kentucky’s up 1 again.
I log on and UK goes up by ten……………damn see you guys later
Tackled by "Puki" and a host of Volunteers
At the just-before the under-12 media timeout:
Kentucky has stormed back in force and they’re up 10(!).
And a bigger offensive board.
Holy mackerel.
by Chris Pendley on Feb 28, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
It's all good.
I’ve lost both the audio and video feeds, so spoil away.
by David Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Nuts
Both for LSU and Kentucky, they doubled the best shooter and left someone else WIDE open for 3.
LSU needs to make sure they get the last shot.
...nevermind
LSU 73-70 on a Mitchell 3, 9 seconds left
by Will Shelton on Feb 28, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Well, partial credit.
How many guys do you think they stick on Meeks here? 6?
by Chris Pendley on Feb 28, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, I admit it.
Kentucky impressed me in the second half. Did they need the win? Absolutely. But I can at least see them in the tourney now, compared to how I felt before the game.
Agreed
Gonna be interesting to see what the stakes are in the Florida game next weekend…UK will win a tiebreaker against both Tennessee and Florida, so there’s still a chance for a favorable SEC Tournament matchup too.
by Will Shelton on Feb 28, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
I'll miss the late tilt.
Someone will have to catch me up on it..
by Chris Pendley on Feb 28, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
2 technicals on SC in less than 9 minutes.
One was on a player (unknown who it was) and the other was on the bench. They might want to settle down when they’re down by double digits.
10 turnovers on the Commodores now.
It’s still 37-23, but they’ll need to control that. SC’s zone defense is making a difference.
Especially at that Voodoo Black Magic Arena they have.
The ~70% 3-point shooting isn’t hurting, either.
by David Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
47-27 Vandy up at halftime
A few points to ponder:
- 6-9 3-point shooting for Vandy
- 10 SC fouls, only 4 Vandy fouls
- Downey 2-9 from the floor
- 14 rebounds, 6 assists for Vandy; 10 rebounds, 1 assist for SC
- 2 technical fouls on SC
This game couldn’t be slanted much further in Vandy’s favor. SC has to watch foul counts for 3 starters (including Downey), while Vandy is free and clear.
And with that, either Florida or UT will be one very happy team tomorrow evening.
Vandy obliterated SC, 96-83.
So what I've been hearing in Lexington
After today’s loss the consensus seems to be that if they don’t win their final games, they need to make it to the finals in the SEC tourney to make it to the NCAA tournament.(The Florida game should be particularly interesting after the last finish)
I’ve also been hearing a lot of talk that they will probably make it anyways, just on the basis of the name of Kentucky.
I mean I can’t confirm any of this, but UK is a big money maker for the NCAA, it takes a lot for them not to make it to the big show it seems.
Just the talk of the town around here, take it as you will.
now with less meyton panning.
by Pride of the Southland on Mar 1, 2009 2:04 AM EST reply actions
If they get one more seasonal win and either a second season win or one SEC tourney win, that'd give them 10.
It might be a sneaky way to count to 10, but that might be enough for the NCAA tourney to invite their darling little cash chow.
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