Rocky Top Talk: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Around SBN: Headlines: BC Beats BU 4-3 in 58th Beanpot Championship

SEC Basketball Live Game Thread: For Non-UT Games This Weekend

Kentucky's loss to LSU (73-70) puts the Vols back in control of their own destiny for the East.  While a USC loss doesn't directly help the Vols' cause, it might provide some "fire insurance" should the Vols not sweep the rest of the season.  [Note by hooper, 02/28/09 6:50 PM EST ]

South Carolina falls to Vanderbilt 96-83, which means the winner of tomorrow's Florida/Tennessee matchup will move into a first-place tie with the Gamecocks, and the loser will be at 8-6 with Kentucky and in bad shape all around.  [Note by Will, 02/28/09, 11:14 PM EST]

Will pointed out so many SEC games this weekend that are relevant to UT's interests, I felt that it'd be good to have a place where we can leave comments on what we see.  Beyond the ever-important wins and losses that will affect UT's conference standings, there are also scouting interests involved; we may see one (or more!) of these teams in the conference tournament, so it'd be good to have a feel for how they're playing at this point in the season.

So consider this thread as informal as its introduction.  If you're watching any of the non-UT SEC games this weekend and have something to say, here's your spot.  Likewise, if you're curious if any of us have any observations, this should serve as one-stop shopping.  It likely won't be as busy as a Tennessee thread, but I would expect a few quips among the obsessed.

The games that Will pegged as most relevant are in bold print:

Saturday, February 28

  • LSU at Kentucky - 4:00 PM - CBS
  • Alabama at Ole Miss - 4:00 PM - ESPN360
  • Auburn at Miss. State - 6:00 PM - ESPN 360
  • South Carolina at Vanderbilt - 9:00 PM - ESPNU

I'll be studying at the library throughout most of the afternoon/evening, but I'll probably keep the LSU/UK tilt on 360, and may get some of the USC/Vandy game if things work out.

 

Poll
If one were to win and the other were to lose, which scenario would you prefer?
Kentucky Win, South Carolina Loss
11 votes
Kentucky Loss, South Carolina Win
36 votes

47 votes | Poll has closed

0 recs  |  Comment 77 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

Apologies for the last-second nature of this thread, by the way.

If I had actually thought of this before, I would have prepped it and given you all some warning.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And a correction:

360 won’t carry the Kentucky game (CBS), but CBS does have online video for you.

(Link opens in a new window.)

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A Kentucky loss

Means they’re basically out of the tourney, barring a SEC final run. Their composite numbers are pretty terrible.

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You have to give the NCAA tourney this much: they dangle hope in front of everybody until the last possible moment.

Even if Kentucky were to lose out in the season, they can still hope to win the SEC tourney and snag the autobid like Georgia did last year.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Do we think UK has to run the table?

Doing so would get them in for sure at 11-5 in the SEC, I’d have to think…but if they went 10-6 and didn’t get in, they’d be the first team in the history of the conference to win 10 and not get in. Plus, they’re Kentucky.

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not quite.

I think they need to go 2-1 – well, 3-2 over their next 5 at worst. (Yes, I think they need a tourney win.) This is, frankly, a pretty average conference. Remember how badly we mocked the ACC in football this year? It’s like that.

For the record, we’re playing the part of Virginia Tech, Kentucky is Florida State, Florida is North Carolina, and South Carolina is Georgia Tech. And yes, Alabama is Duke.

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's cool

Virginia Tech won it. There’s no substitute for LSU.

3-2 over their next 5 sounds about right.

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

CBS's video player isn't working for me.

Is anybody else having any success with it?

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps the Library server isn't allowing the CBS feed through.

That’d be the first time they blocked a feed, but it’s possible. I’m using the audio stream instead.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tennessee doesn't have a firewall!

I suspect you’re getting blacked out on the online feed because it’s on locally.

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point.

Let me check some of the other games.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting points Tim Brando made about John Brady

As much as we love him, you have to wonder how he’s feeling right now, watching all his players go 24-4 with another coach.

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Patrick Patterson misses an alley oop and lands on his butt...

And Kentucky gives up a 30 footer on the other end. That’s what kind of year it’s been…when they’re not playing Tennessee.

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

They don't look like they have ti together at all today.

It’s games like these that make me think they’re not a tourney team.

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's odd, that.

They have clunkers against most of the rest of the SEC, but light things up against Tennessee. It’s not a motivation thing; it’s not like they didn’t have motivation against Vandy either.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Patterson's making up for it, though.

He pretty much is their team right now.

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice, Tim.

Offensive pass interference.

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good first half for UT.

No LSU player is in real foul trouble, though the 2 on Mitchell is unfortunate. The 8-point lead means that UK will have to stretch themselves a bit. If LSU starts the second half poised, UK may find themselves in a deep hole quickly.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 4:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Here's a good question

For the BlogPoll…who would you put at #1 right now? I’m morally opposed to dropping Pitt back behind UConn when they just beat them on the road…UNC won by 30 today against Georgia Tech, Oklahoma is back healthy with Griffin…Memphis is out there too, they may get some votes. Who would you give it to?

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wait to see how Oklahoma plays today.

I don’t see a reason to deny them if he’s at full health. If not…. I’m not sure.

What about a Louisville, if they win tomorrow?

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No argument that they've played better in their last four

Than anyone in the country probably. But they’re playing a depleted Marquette team tomorrow, so that won’t look as impressive if they keep winning. The 33 point loss to Notre Dame was just two weeks ago, and that would be putting a five loss team ahead of a handful of teams with three.

My gut is leaning towards UNC. We’ll see.

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see a problem with UNC either.

I was just trying to avoid going with the obvious choice.

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Coach K picked up a chair to throw it

…and then thought better of it. Duke responded with five straight points, up 11 at Virginia Tech with 11 to play.

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kentucky has cut it to 2

To open the second half

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 5:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kentucky was up 1!

In the time it took for me to type this, LSU went up 1 – and now Kentucky’s up 1 again.

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I log on and UK goes up by ten……………damn see you guys later

Tackled by "Puki" and a host of Volunteers

by voljunkie on Feb 28, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

We won’t hold it against you.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At the just-before the under-12 media timeout:

Kentucky has stormed back in force and they’re up 10(!).

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LSU not used to being behind

Lacking the composure they had earlier – still down 10

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

come on LSU,

Tackled by "Puki" and a host of Volunteers

by voljunkie on Feb 28, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

62-61 UK, 3:18 to play

Meeks & Patterson 46 points, Mitchell & Thorton 37 points

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 5:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

gonna be exciting all the way to the end

Tackled by "Puki" and a host of Volunteers

by voljunkie on Feb 28, 2009 5:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wow. what a turn of events

Tackled by "Puki" and a host of Volunteers

by voljunkie on Feb 28, 2009 5:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nuts

Both for LSU and Kentucky, they doubled the best shooter and left someone else WIDE open for 3.

LSU needs to make sure they get the last shot.

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 5:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

...nevermind

LSU 73-70 on a Mitchell 3, 9 seconds left

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, partial credit.

How many guys do you think they stick on Meeks here? 6?

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Airball from Meeks!

LSU wins her! 73-70…and the Vols control their own destiny

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 6:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I admit it.

Kentucky impressed me in the second half. Did they need the win? Absolutely. But I can at least see them in the tourney now, compared to how I felt before the game.

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 6:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Gonna be interesting to see what the stakes are in the Florida game next weekend…UK will win a tiebreaker against both Tennessee and Florida, so there’s still a chance for a favorable SEC Tournament matchup too.

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WOO!!!

Wow. Can’t say that Kentucky didn’t fight for it, though.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 6:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Time to go home to eat.

I’ll try to come back during the late tilt.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 6:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'll miss the late tilt.

Someone will have to catch me up on it..

by Graysnail on Feb 28, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You guys take it easy

Tackled by "Puki" and a host of Volunteers

by voljunkie on Feb 28, 2009 6:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ogilvy is killing South Carolina so far.

22-11 Vandy, and Ogilvy has 11 on his own.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

2 technicals on SC in less than 9 minutes.

One was on a player (unknown who it was) and the other was on the bench. They might want to settle down when they’re down by double digits.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

10 turnovers on the Commodores now.

It’s still 37-23, but they’ll need to control that. SC’s zone defense is making a difference.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Vandy now up 18

Very surprising…but then again, nothing should be at this point this year.

by Will on Feb 28, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Especially at that Voodoo Black Magic Arena they have.

The ~70% 3-point shooting isn’t hurting, either.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

47-27 Vandy up at halftime

A few points to ponder:

  • 6-9 3-point shooting for Vandy
  • 10 SC fouls, only 4 Vandy fouls
  • Downey 2-9 from the floor
  • 14 rebounds, 6 assists for Vandy; 10 rebounds, 1 assist for SC
  • 2 technical fouls on SC

This game couldn’t be slanted much further in Vandy’s favor. SC has to watch foul counts for 3 starters (including Downey), while Vandy is free and clear.

by Hooper on Feb 28, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So what I've been hearing in Lexington

After today’s loss the consensus seems to be that if they don’t win their final games, they need to make it to the finals in the SEC tourney to make it to the NCAA tournament.(The Florida game should be particularly interesting after the last finish)

I’ve also been hearing a lot of talk that they will probably make it anyways, just on the basis of the name of Kentucky.

I mean I can’t confirm any of this, but UK is a big money maker for the NCAA, it takes a lot for them not to make it to the big show it seems.

Just the talk of the town around here, take it as you will.

now with less meyton panning.

by Pride of the Southland on Mar 1, 2009 2:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

If they get one more seasonal win and either a second season win or one SEC tourney win, that'd give them 10.

It might be a sneaky way to count to 10, but that might be enough for the NCAA tourney to invite their darling little cash chow.

by Hooper on Mar 1, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about the Tennessee Volunteers.
Start posting about the Volunteers »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Gromit_small
2010 Tennessee Football T-Shirt: Suggested Revisions
Images_small
How We Will Finish
Hardesty_small
Vols QB battle buzz
Small
Tee Martin knows a lot about wide receicvers
Small
Accountability - Bruuuce Coaches 'em up
Gromit_small
Come Try Curling in Knoxville!
Small
Josh McNeil
Small
Where we stand
General-neyland_small
With all the snow in Knoxville we will find true Vols!
Script_small
Vol fans are losers

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Animated Drive Charts

RTT Classics

RTT Classics 2008 Animated BlogPoll2007 Animated BlogPollLOL! Your logo is so scary! Welcome to Rocky Top Talk Tradition! Fiddlin' on the Roof2008 Animated BlogPoll The Season of Which We Do Not Speak Pearlfection Case Study: 2QB Systems and the 2005 Tennessee Volunteers The 2007 College Football Blogger Awards The 2006 College Football Blogger Awards The 20 coolest college football logos The 10 worst college football logos The 29 most boring college football logos 2006 Animated BCS Race 2005 Animated Race to the Rose Bowl

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recent FanShots

Picture of Steven Pearl being circulated on opposing team blogs.
Vote for the official 2010 Tennessee Football t-shirt
Tatum has sprained right ankle
Texas vs. the Nation Dish: QBs Crompton, Perrilloux boost NFL draft stock
Boys will be boys....
UT hires Chuck Smith to coach defensive line
A Look into DeMar Dorsey's Past
Running Backs coach
Tooting their own horn
Former Vol Tee Martin to UK

+ New FanShot All FanShots >

YouTube


Editor-in-Chief

Fiddler_on_the_roof_fiddler_1__small Joel

Senior Editor

Gromit_small Hooper

Tennessee_logo_small Will

Official Partner of CBS Sports