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Talking Points - Dance Week Edition

Tennessee Football

- It's Spring Break in Knoxville, so while there may not be any action on the practice field until next week, there's plenty of excitement going around today, as the long and strange journey of Bryce Brown comes to an end at 2:00 PM EDT.  Most believe it's come down to the Vols and Miami, where Brown's brother plays, with Oregon no longer a factor.  But now six weeks after signing day, nothing would surprise me with Rivals' number one overall player.  Brown's announcement will be carried live by his local ABC affiliate KAKE, which you should be able to watch live online at their website.

- Our fearless leader is also hanging out at Dr. Saturday this week, and he's talking Lane Kiffin and Al Davis.

Tennessee Basketball

- Yesterday's magic word was "screwed" for many in Vol Nation, but as we moved forward to the brackets two hours after the insanity of the last few seconds in Tampa, so too must we now move forward from the harsh reality of being a nine seed.  I'll only say this about that - it wasn't just those wearing orange-tinted glasses who thought the Vols deserved better:  Joe Lunardi had the Vols as a six seed in his final bracket projection, and Jerry Palm had the Vols as an eight in his.  But, we've gotta move on, because...

- Oklahoma State looms.  The Vols and Cowboys have history - in Pearl's first year, the Cowboys handed him his first loss as a Vol in Oklahoma City.  The following season, the Vols busted up OSU's undefeated season in a thriller in Nashville.  Fun memories from that game:

- Both teams still have players who were active in that second game especially, Wayne Chism for the Vols and Byron Eaton & Terrel Harris for OSU.  Consider Friday's game the rubber match to settle what Eaton calls a building rivalry.  It's also an Oklahoma reunion for Bobby Maze, who says Eaton likes to talk, but he can't say anything to him.

- Two things to be worried about:  Oklahoma State is fourth in the nation in three pointers made (shooting 38%), and they're no long coached by someone named Sutton, but by Travis Ford in his first season.  Astute Vol fans will remember Ford ripping them apart in the early 90s during his playing days as a Kentucky Wildcat, and he's moved up the coaching ranks very quickly, from Eastern Kentucky to UMass to OSU in the last nine years.  This is Oklahoma State's first trip to the NCAA Tournament in four years, and the Cowboys have won eight of their last ten to close the season.  More on the breakdown here later this week; gametime Friday at 12:25 PM EDT.

- Words I'm not using until Friday at around 3:00 at the earliest:  "DeJuan", "Levance", and "Pittsburgh".

Lady Vol Basketball

- If we learned anything yesterday, it's that you can never really project tournament seeding as an exact science.  So when I tell you that ESPN has the Ladies projected as a six seed, you take it with a salt shaker, and you tune in tonight at 7:00 PM EDT on the worldwide leader to see where they're actually going to fall.

College Basketball

- The rest of the SEC probably isn't too happy about their seeding either:  LSU is an 8 seed (no regular season SEC Champion had ever been seeded lower than 4) and plays pesky Butler in the first round, and has a date with North Carolina in Greensboro should they win.  Mississippi State gets UDub as a thirteen seed.

- The SEC sends four teams to the NIT:  Auburn is a one seed and will host Tennessee-Martin, Florida is a one seed and will host Jacksonville, South Carolina is a three seed and will host Steph Curry and Davidson, and the C-A-T-S CATS CATS CATS are a four seed and will host UNLV.  It's a harsh reality for teams like Alabama, Vanderbilt and Ole Miss - used to be anything over .500 in the SEC would easily get you into the NIT, but when the league suffers we all suffer together, and only three teams going to the big dance means only four go to the small one.  Full NIT bracket here.

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on Friday evening the words, “Kevin Tiggs”, “Courtney Pigram”, and “ETSU Buccaneers” will be in our vocabulary. Right? No? Okay.

March Madness is BruceBall Time!

by Volorado on Mar 16, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

An interesting question

Who has the best chance of winning (and by that, I mean “who gets beat by fewer points?”) – ETSU against Pitt, or Chatty against UConn?

by Will on Mar 16, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would say ETSU

Simply because Pitt wants to get in the half court and grind, thus fewer possessions for both sides, and ETSU has some athletes that can create their own shot. I wasn’t joking about Tiggs, he’s a pretty solid scorer.

March Madness is BruceBall Time!

by Volorado on Mar 16, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets talk about this letter...

Anybody else read it? What are your thoughts?

A lot of it seems pretty petty to me. Sounds like Davis trying to make a point.

Accusations of where Kiffin failed to meet contract obligations:

1.

To communicate openly and candidly with the principle owner and/or his designated representatives; to ensure that the club’s ownership is informed on a complete and timely basis of all matters affecting the club’s operations; to respect the authority and ownership to make decisions on behalf of the club; and to avoid actions that undermine or damage the club’s reputation and operating success.

2.

that all of his [Kiffin] services relating to coaching were ‘all subject to the direction and supervision of the General Partner of Club’.

3.

that all of his [Kiffin] duties supervising assistant coaches were ‘subject to the direction and supervision of the General Partner of Club’.

4.

after the University [Tennessee] hired Mr. Kiffin, he induced one of the Raider assistant coaches, James Cregg, to breach his contract with the Raiders in order to to begin immediate employment at the University

Which goes on to say,

Mr. Cregg simply walked off the job prior to the completion of the Raider’s season, discarding any intention to perform further services under his contract with the Raiders. At no time prior to his abrupt departure did Mr. Cregg seek permission to to breach his contract, nor did he give any notice of his intent to do so.

and finally,

5.

Mr. Kiffin and your Athletic Director went out of their way to laugh at the Raiders

and

making making false and misleading statements to the press about the Raiders
  1. - 3, to me, read that there was a power struggle between Davis and Kiffin. Looks to me that Davis was trying to exert control over the team, more so than what Kiffin was willing to give him. Who knows how deep this went, though – could’ve been beyond reasonable means, which would implicate Davis more than Kiffin, but you can’t totally rule out Kiffin because of the gumption he seems to have, I wouldn’t put it past him to stand up to Davis, and maybe Kiffin was unwilling to work with Davis. No matter, this seems to be pretty picky, and probably hard to hold up in court.
  1. - Could be a problem, but I am unfamiliar what they could do to Kiffin in this matter. If anything it seems Cregg would be held responsible because ultimately, it was his decision, not Kiffin’s. I’m a bit surprised they are pursuing this much as I’ve always been under the understanding that when a Head Coach gets fired, most likely so will his assistants, so while he may have breached his contract by providing no notice, its not like this doesn’t happen quite often in the NFL and NCAA.
  1. - I personally don’t remember UT’s AD making any statements against the Raiders, so maybe someone can help me on this. If anything I can’t see anything coming of this either, seems to be perfectly in their rights to say what they want, even if it is a bit out of protocol.

All of it stinks of Davis trying to charge Kiffin with as much as his legal team will allow him.

Personally, I doubt much will come out of these charges. I’m unsure if Kiffin will get his back pay though, I think the court will come down on Kiffin’s side, but will probably keep his pay, because, while none of these accusations are particularly strong, the nit-picky contract breaches for points 1-3 will probably be grounds enough to keep it. Its most likely easier to prove these failures than it is to show all the things Kiffin did within his contract.

P.S. I forgot to add that they also make accusations of Kiffin “actively supplying information about the team to his opponents”. There isn’t anything alluded to in support of this, so its impossible to know where this is coming from, but I’m skeptical.

now with less meyton panning.

by Pride of the Southland on Mar 16, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Nobody goes "out of their way" to laugh at the Raiders...

You really don’t have to go OUT OF YOUR WAY to laugh at them…

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Mar 16, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bryce Brown WILL commit to Tennessee today...

Mark it down, write it down, take a picture, I don’t car, just remember where you heard it first!!!!!!!!

100% positive.

Insider info. Call the SEC!! Pun intended. :)

by VolBrian on Mar 16, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

*care, too excited to spell

by VolBrian on Mar 16, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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