MORE ON THE CRUNK INCIDENT
by Joel on Mar 2, 2009 7:08 AM EST
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More details on the Crunk Incident, courtesy of Brian Vogler, who was in attendance for Tennessee's Junior Day:
At first, it was just coaches talking to us and our parents, sort of getting a little bit boring. Then they separated players from parents. And the second they split us up, it just got intense. We had a team meeting, coach Kiffin came up and started talking. He calls on coach Gran, and he's really putting emphasis on how important special teams is, and the assistant special teams coach is up there with him. He starts yelling something, rips off his shirt and two other coaches come down with shirts off. It was crazy! Coaches were telling us to get up, and everybody sort of stands up and claps. They said they were going to give us another chance at this.
They walked out of the room, turned out the lights and two coaches came running in, some UT players joined in with him. They didn't take their shirts off, but all the players and recruits ran down from their chairs onto the stage and just started getting crunk. Everybody got in a big circle and it was like before a game, everybody shouting "UT! UT!"
We still don't know if these guys can coach or win games, but it is becoming increasingly clear that they will continue to be interesting. I mean, can you imagine this happening on the sideline during a Florida game at Neyland Stadium? The crowd might actually become electric again. Those cheering on and adding to the bootstrapped enthusiasm might actually drown out the tsk-tsking of the sundress and down in front crowd. The players might actually dance and skip and sprint onto the field in anticipation of something fantastic happening.
During yesterday's Tennessee-Florida game thread, hooper floated the idea of a shout off between Ed Orgeron and Bruce Pearl. What a fantastic idea, right? Why? Because a few of the first ten things Vol fans love about Pearl have to include his Gamma Radiation Game, after which he ripped his shirt off in the locker room, and his commandeering of cafeteria tables as podiums for his impromptu publicity campaigns. He brought energy and enthusiasm and excitement -- anticipation -- back to a mostly dead program.
Can you imagine six Bruce Pearl clones -- it's not just Orgeron, apparently -- standing on tables all over campus pumping life back into Tennessee football? I can, and it's making me want to rip off my Van Heusen Wrinkle Free RIGHT NOW!
Woo for "just started getting crunk!"
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I can, and it’s making me want to rip off my Van Heusen Wrinkle Free RIGHT NOW!
LOL
…and probably an image I could have done without.
..but, LOL
"Florida didnt win their first SEC title until 1991 and now they think they invented football."
-Ron Zook
by rustytanton on Mar 2, 2009 8:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ruh Roh
Everybody got in a big circle and it was like before a game
Simulation of gameday experience?? Surely it can’t be.
And while I too would like to see more energy out of the students, the sundresses can stay.
by Getoffmyvols on Mar 2, 2009 8:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I'm cool with the sundresses
And secondary violations.
by rblakeh on Mar 2, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to get crunk
when the only music we ever hear at Neyland Stadium is Toby Keith, some clone of him or some awful new age “hard rock”. Although I do remember at one point in the beginning of the Alabama game last year they did play “Put On” and players started dancing and the student section went wild. That was fun. Anyway they seriously ought to talk to the guy who picks the stadium music, at least show him some youtube videos of Virginia Tech playing Enter Sandman…that whole place starts jumping up and down. Seriously most of the videos and music they play during football games put me to sleep (Except “Tennessee Jed” that song gives me a warm Tennessee feeling…).
by jimvols on Mar 2, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, we need more "BOOM! Here comes the boys from the South!"
And less Kenny Chesney.
by rblakeh on Mar 2, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd even get rid of Tennessee Jed.
The song is alright, but it has absolutely no energy to it. Let’s face it; the last thing we need to do is give our fans one more reason to sit back and relax in their seats.
by Hooper on Mar 2, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's fine for like halftime or something
But not commercial breaks between series.
by rblakeh on Mar 2, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent point
We really need help with the PA system music at Neyland, and frankly, the band could use some new tunes, too. They could start with Tradition, although that may be anachronistic by now. I still think it would be fantastic, though.
Rocky Top Talk
by Joel on Mar 2, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For those who can't read Rivals
I posted a fanshot from the ajc that has more on the event. Hee-larious.
by rblakeh on Mar 2, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
They should have gotten Fogel to come and then gotten him to say,
“We’re gonna get crunk and rock out!”
by rblakeh on Mar 2, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well Im glad you guys are buying into this
if it happened at a school I attended or was a fan of, I’d do a big fat face palm.
im not impressed with your performance
by troy145 on Mar 2, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It mainly has to do with the recruits buying in.
The way I understand it is it really left a fun enthusiastic impression with the prospects in attendance. I haven’t heard one prospect come out and say they were embarrassed or ashamed like many of our rivals are trying to make it sound. All this showed the prospects was that the coaching staff is very enthusiastic and passionate and that’s what they want from their players. If Tennessee didn’t have their attention before the weekend, the staff made sure they did by the time the players left.
Pete Carroll has been known to do this sort of thing for a while now and he’s viewed as an innovator and a guy who knows how to have fun with his players and get their attention. For whatever reason when his protege does something similar he’s portrayed as a clown.
by Getoffmyvols on Mar 2, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pete Carroll is a winner
If Lane Kiffin can manage what Carroll has, he can do what he wants. Until then… maybe he should just tone it down a bit.
I honestly don’t care and am not flaming, Im just saying I wouldn’t want it for my team. Can you imagine a shirtless saban? Or worse yet, since im a troy student, a shirtless Larry Blakeney? shudder
im not impressed with your performance
by troy145 on Mar 2, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, Lane Kiffin didn't do the shirtless thing.
I’m sure it was only the fit-enough coaches doing it. Also, this was probably something that originated with Orgeron at Southern Cal. He was there before Pete Carroll, and was retained by Pete Carroll specifically because of his recruiting prowess, his ability to coach the defensive line, and his intensity.
If the new staff flops, they flop. But it’s better that they go down swinging than limp along like dead fish handshakes.
by Hooper on Mar 2, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This sounds weird but
Lane Kiffin is definitely in shape. When I met him at TBA he looked more like a linebacker than a football coach. But then again, maybe all men feel inadequate next to a shirtless Coach O!
by rblakeh on Mar 2, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I don't doubt that he's in shape.
You can tell by looking at how his suit fits that he’s in shape. But it’s different for him to be going shirtless and crazy than for him to be to the side keeping an eye over everything. Not that he wouldn’t do it, but he didn’t.
At least, it’s a distinction to me. FWIW.
by Hooper on Mar 2, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There are a staggering amount of facepalm .gifs from Star Trek.
by Graysnail on Mar 2, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
space is an insurmountably frustrating place
im not impressed with your performance
by troy145 on Mar 2, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you had to deal with Wesley, you'd be doing the same thing.
I’m not saying he said an ungodly amount of idiotic things, but I understand.
by Graysnail on Mar 3, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so surprised that a fan of the Crimson Tide thinks this should be embarrassing.
I would have never predicted that.
by rblakeh on Mar 2, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here is what three 5/4 star recruits had to say from the Junior day event...
McCoy: "Personally, I liked it … It was kind of crazy, but it was cool. Coach Kiffin is trying to get everyone fired up about Tennessee football, and it worked. He had everyone in that room fired up."
Smith: "I loved it, especially when that coach ripped off his shirt like The Incredible Hulk. It was high intensity. I enjoyed the whole day. They [Tennessee] definitely moved up on my list."
Volger: "It was awesome. I didn’t know how to react at first. I said to myself, ‘Oh my God, these people are crazy.’ Then after talking to them later in the day, I realized that’s just their style. That’s how they go."
by BigBeefe on Mar 2, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well sure
but theyd probably like it they brought in strippers and TI too
doesnt make it any less ridiculous.
whatever works for yall man. I’ll stick to the conservative, normal person ways of recruiting/getting kids stoked.
im not impressed with your performance
by troy145 on Mar 2, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we used strippers...
then we WOULD be recruiting like Saban!
:)
by rblakeh on Mar 2, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The darned thing about it all is that it doesn't matter.
Well, it will affect recruiting and it matter in that regard, but this doesn’t give us any indication of coaching ability.
Besides, if you want a conservative, normal person, Fulmer’s available. (I don’t mean that in a mean sense; I just mean that normal and conservative don’t give any greater guarantee of success than hyper/aggressive.)
by Hooper on Mar 2, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry*
normal, conservative, succesful**
im not impressed with your performance
by troy145 on Mar 2, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Successful
1998, baby!
A roughly .750 winning percentage is quite successful over 17 years as well. Nobody can rightly argue that Fulmer’s career wasn’t successful. What got him was that the tenor of football in the SEC had changed and enough UT fans felt like the program was being left behind that the money wasn’t coming in like it needed to be.
You could see it in the media, too; everybody was talking about Saban, Meyer and Miles like crazy even before they had success. Meanwhile, everybody was so used to Fulmer that there wasn’t much new to report. With reduced coverage came reduced success in recruiting. (No, that wasn’t the only reason, but it was a factor.)
by Hooper on Mar 2, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ive heard people blame the media for elections
for cultural problems, even for health problems. But to blame the media for your team not winning any games? Is there some huge media machine turning the wheels behind the Wyoming program? Well that just seems a little off to me.
im not impressed with your performance
by troy145 on Mar 2, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Sorry about that. That’s not at all what I meant. The loss of games stems primarily from the downward trend in recruiting. Add in some uncertainty at the O-coordinator position, and it hit catastrophic last year. Lack of media does not equal lack of wins; just ask Utah and Boise State.
The lack of media help fuel a perception about the program, though, and that helped drive down the local interest in the current coaching staff. When that happened, the money didn’t come in like it needed to (as in empty seats). And apathy set in.
The one thing that is a guaranteed death to a program is apathy. Angry fans still care enough to foot the bill; apathetic fans don’t. More so than even wins and losses, that’s what caused Fulmer to get fired.
BTW, thanks for swinging by. We’re happy to have you around. And I would guess that most of us don’t have a solid opinion of the new staff yet; we got burned with the Clawfense and we’re going to be a little more deliberate this time around. However, it’s really nice to have something with entertainment value, even if it is 40-year old shirtless men at the beginning of the offseason…
by Hooper on Mar 2, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kiffin is full of hot air
Although he may find moderate success in about 5 years. That is if he doesnt get fired in the meantime. Kiffin will win the games he should win, the gimmies. He will also lose to every formiddable foe he ever faces and that he has pissed off.
Jealousy is the thread that holds TET threads together!
by The Voice of Reason on Mar 6, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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