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Tennessee Basketball All-Decade Team: Perimeter Players

The one spot on this team where there's no discussion and no debate is at one guard, where Chris Lofton should one day find his way to the Thompson-Boling Arena rafters.  #5's greatness is well documented, and not only was he a fantastic individual player, but he was the focal point of the program's resurrection under Bruce Pearl.

But who else joins Lofton and CJ Watson (who won our point guard poll with 70% of the vote over Tony Harris) on the perimeter for the Vols' All-Decade Team?  As we'll see, the competition gets a lot tougher with this group from here on out.

Three players representing three coaches and three different styles of play make the list for today's vote.  All three were great scorers and three point shooters, and all three also excelled in one additional area, from double-double potential every night by working the glass, to an ice cold touch at the free throw line above 90%, to an up-tempo defensive style that fed off the press and turnovers.  Two of the three played on successful teams, while the third carried lesser talent to an NIT appearance.  So there are lots of factors to weigh and judge in deciding who will join Lofton and Watson on the All-Decade Team.

We break down the numbers and the debate by taking a look at Vincent Yarbrough, Scooter McFadgon, and JaJuan Smith...

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Tennessee Basketball was fresh off its first NCAA Tournament appearance in a decade when Vincent Yarbrough stepped onto campus in the 1998-99 season.  You've probably heard his name a lot this season when commentators were discussing Scotty Hopson, who was the first McDonald's All-American the Vols have signed since Yarbrough.  Vince was thought to be the final piece of Jerry Green's puzzle, joining a loaded Tennessee squad as a freshman who would be the one to carry the program to new heights.

And in some ways, he did.  Yarbrough was the leading scorer as a sophomore on Tennessee's 2000 team, which you could argue was Tennessee's most talented of the decade; the '00 Vols are the only group that's even in the conversation with the '08 team that made it to #1 in the polls, but the first group of the decade featured Yarbrough, Tony Harris, CJ Black, Isaiah Victor, Jon Higgins (another fine perimeter player this decade), and Charles Hathaway and Ron Slay coming off the bench.  Yarbrough averaged 14.8 points and 6.9 rebounds on that squad, leading the team in both categories.  That's very impressive.

The Vols made it to the Sweet 16 for the first time in program history that year, and Yarbrough helped the Vols get back in the following season, before ending his career in Buzz Peterson's first season, posting a very impressive 18-8-3 average.  Yarbrough at 6'7" was able to play inside and out, and was a second round draft pick of the Denver Nuggets after his senior season.  Everything you need to know about his NBA career can be summed up here:

But lots of people have been dunked on by Kobe Bryant; don't let that keep you from voting for him.

With Peterson entering his third season in Knoxville, the Vols got a bonus when Scooter McFadgon transfered from Memphis to UT.  He showed up and made an instant impact, scoring 17.6 PPG in his first season in Knoxville.  That same season he finished third in the nation in free throw percentage, at a ridiculous 91.2%, and got the Vols into the NIT.

Chris Lofton's arrival balanced out the scoring in McFadgon's senior season, but he still averaged 14.3 PPG, leading the team in scoring in both of his seasons in Knoxville.  In two seasons at Memphis, McFadgon averaged only 9 points per game, but in Knoxville he shined at 16 points per contest.

One of the most enjoyable Vols to watch this decade was JaJuan Smith, the third member of this in-state group.  Smith wasn't a McDonald's All-American or a Tiger High transfer, but a walk-on under Buzz Peterson who rose to stardom under Bruce Pearl.  In Pearl's first season, Smith led the Bench Mob with 9.5 points per contest off the pine, and fired the shots that announced the presence of BruceBall with consecutive deep threes at Texas in the fall of 2005, enabling the Tennessee run that the Longhorns never recovered from. 

Smith stepped into the starting lineup and only continued to excel, a dangerous secondary option to Lofton and the hardest working man on the defensive end.  Juanny averaged 15 points per in 2007 and 14 in 2008, and continued to lead the team in run-incuding plays; whether it was a steal, a deep three or an athletic play like this one:

A flu-ridden Smith almost single-handedly beat LSU in Baton Rouge in 2008 with an end of game steal and score.  Lofton got the press and the superstardom, but Juanny appeared to be the perfect player for Pearl's system, and his presence was sorely missed this season.

Statistical Comparison (again, statsheet.com):

  • Vincent Yarbrough:  13.7 PPG, 44.0 FG%, 68.7 FT%, 34.0 3PT%, 6.8 rebs, 2.3 assists, 1.7 steals, 1.0 blocks per game
  • Scooter McFadgon:  15.8 PPG, 39.1 FG%, 89.8 FT%, 36.3 3PT%, 3.9 rebs, 1.7 assists, 0.6 steals per game
  • JaJuan Smith:  11.0 PPG, 43.8 FG%, 69.6 FT%, 37.2 3PT%, 3.2 rebs, 1.5 assists, 1.5 steals per game

McFadgon has the best offensive numbers, though that's both in part because he only played as a junior and senior at Tennessee (and never came off the bench like Juanny), and because of the overall talent level around him.  Yarbrough is another one of those ex-Vols who really isn't appreciated as much as he should be; VY is one of the most complete players to ever wear the orange, and was the best player on one of Tennessee's best teams.  Juanny was the sparkplug for Bruce Pearl, good on both ends of the floor and a part of the most successful team in Tennessee Basketball history.

Who gets your vote on the perimeter?

Poll
Other than Chris Lofton, which perimeter player gets your vote for the Vols' All-Decade team?
Vincent Yarbrough
22 votes
Scooter McFadgon
9 votes
JaJuan Smith
59 votes

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This has to be Yarbrough

We all love Juanny…but VY is one of those guys who gets misremembered Roger Clemens style because of the 2001 team’s nosedive. To lead the ’00 team in points and rebounds is absurd, and he was such the complete player.

by Will on Mar 29, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

People are pick Juany over VY?

I know the lovfest we all had and are feeling now that Juany is gone but come on VY was the last McDonalds all-american we had and he was REALLY good!

Oh well….

by BigBeefe on Mar 29, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I chose Juanny

mainly because I watched his whole career, I wasn’t following UT hoops when VY was here. Maybe my vote shouldn’t count but yea.

by Getoffmyvols on Mar 29, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did, too

I did watch Yarbrough and remember liking him, but that 37% 3P% had me starstruck. I don’t think JaJuan was ever given enough credit. I sometimes think he was within a hair as good as Lofton, whom I loved.

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by Joel on Mar 29, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went with JaJuan as well...

I watched both of their careers in their entireties and was a regular attender of games, and I have to go with Smith. But this decision wasn’t as slam-dunk to me as Watson over Harris. I chose Smith based on what he accomplished compared to what his potential was considered to be upon arrival. That may not seem fair, as VY had no control over what people expected him to be able to do, and I don’t think there is any question that Smith received superior coaching/instruction to that received by VY, but that’s just the way I see it.

I realize my choice is probably biased by the recency effect, particularly as it relates to how much this year’s team missed Smith for a variety of reasons, but I don’t remember ever saying “That never would have happened if Vince Yarbrough were still around” for any reason (as I did repeatedly this year after yet another guard put up career numbers against the Vols.)

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by birdjam on Mar 30, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I frankly am having a tough time figuring out how anyone can vote Smith over Yarbrough, much less everyone

You guys are voting a mid-level player over one of the better players in Tennesee history, and the unquestioned star of one of the best teams in Tennessee history. If we’re just gonna vote only the Pearl regime’s players in and totally ignore the rest of the decade, even the parts that were better, exactly what is the point of this exercise. JaJuan Smith migh actually be third on this list. I would probably vote for him over Scooter, but it’s very close, and the only reason would be the teams Juanny was on.

If there’s a defensive player of the decade poll, I’d vote for Juanny in that, but he doesn’t belong on this if it means leaving Yarbrough out. No way.

by nirwin on Mar 30, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Could not agree more

I thought about writing this thing on my own and just picking who I thought belonged on there (which would’ve included Tony Harris over CJ Watson), but I figured it’s better this way and more interactive to open it up to everyone. I know some people are younger/newer to the program and don’t remember Yarbrough, but for Juanny to be ahead this far is a travesty. Yarbrough was better in almost every way.

by Will on Mar 30, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember Yarbrough quite well

And I explained my reasons. I disagree with you that Yarbrough was better. I didn’t realize we were supposed to vote for the guy you wanted us to vote for. I thought we were supposed to vote for the player we personally thought was the best of those listed.

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by birdjam on Mar 30, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand your logic

I just didn’t see 65% of people agreeing with that choice…but like I said, that’s the fun of opening it up

by Will on Mar 30, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually see your point

And you may change my vote to VY. It’s a close call for me, though.

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by Joel on Mar 31, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Will intended to sway votes.

It came off strong, but I thought he was simply expressing his opinion. At the very least, I know he didn’t mean to offend.

by Hooper on Mar 31, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Agreed. He just made a good case.

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by Joel on Mar 31, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More in defense (pun intended) of my vote for JaJuan

I would argue that VY and Smith were comparable offensively at their respective peaks, despite the contrast in their styles of play, but what really set JaJuan apart in my mind is the fact that he was probably the best defensive player UT has had in the last 10 years. And that aspect of his game is what made us all say we wish he had been on this year’s team so often. With JaJuan on this year’s team, Jodie Meeks doesn’t core 54. He probably doesn’t even score 24. You can’t say that about Yarbrough.

And you mentioned it in your post, but it deserves reiteration: all of the per-game stats you list for these players are skewed heavily by playing time. McFadgon only played two years and was the only real weapon on some pretty dreadful teams.

JaJuan’s career per-game stats don’t really tell you much because he only averaged 8 minutes a game his freshman season. Take that year out and the numbers look like this (I left the shooting percentages alone):

    * Vincent Yarbrough: 13.7 PPG, 6.8 rebs, 2.3 assists, 1.7 steals, 1.0 blocks per game
    * Scooter McFadgon: 15.8 PPG, 3.9 rebs, 1.7 assists, 0.6 steals per game
    * JaJuan Smith: 13.2 PPG, 3.8 rebs, 1.8 assists, 1.7 steals per game

JaJuan also turned the ball over a lot less than Yarbrough.

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by birdjam on Mar 31, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I never saw VY play.

But it’d take a lot to convince me that he meant more to UT than JaJuan did. That’s pretty well my standard.

by Hooper on Mar 31, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's both Pearl and Jerry Green

I think for most, anybody who played for Bruce Pearl gets remembered a little better than they actually were, anybody that played for Jerry Green gets remembered a little worse.

And I shouldn’t assume everyone votes based on the numbers – the next group is going to be even more difficult. I love, LOVE Ron Slay, I think he was tremendous, he was the 2003 SEC Player of the Year…and having watched the wide margins on both of these polls, I fully expect him to get beat badly by both Dane Bradshaw and Tyler Smith. And that frustrates the history major in me.

But, you can argue that Bradshaw made a more unique contribution to the program, and you can argue that Tyler Smith is more talented.

All of this is why I’ve been leaving my personal opinion out of what I’m writing in an effort to be “fair and balanced”, and then posting my own choice in the comments. And I do love and miss Juanny, no doubt. He was a better defender…but Yarbrough wasn’t a slouch. I just look at Yarbrough’s stat line and think he was so much more complete, and more talented.

by Will on Mar 31, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There may be something to your first paragraph...

… although I think it is more that certain key players for LAST year’s team will always get remembered as a little better than they may have actually been. I don’t think that five or ten years from now, my memories of Stanley Asumnu, Jordan Howell, and Ramar Smith will be skewed much by this effect, and they all played for Pearl. (Granted, Ramar, Wingate, and Crews all have the added stigma of their dismissals from the team.)

An argument could be made for Tyler Smith over Ron Slay, although I wouldn’t agree with it. Dane Bradshaw shouldn’t even be an option though, if you are serious about this thing.

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by birdjam on Mar 31, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would've been interesting to see

what would’ve happened if I had put Ramar Smith in that point guard poll. I don’t think he would’ve beaten CJ Watson, but he might have beaten Tony Harris. You said it better – it’s last year’s team that really gets the bump, which probably also means Jerry Green’s negative bump applies only to 2001 (so Brandon Wharton and CJ Black are safe from reactionary public perception).

Gotta put Bradshaw in the next group…he’s already been voted to the All-Century Team at the official site, so I think it’s only fair to give people that majority option.

by Will on Mar 31, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, come on...

… seriously? Just because they included him in that bogus popularity contest? Even Bradshaw himself would tell you he didn’t belong in that thing. Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s your poll – include who you want to include.

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by birdjam on Mar 31, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I vote for including him

Doesn’t he already have a scholarship named after him?

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by Joel on Mar 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Yeah, and he appears on John and Jimmy’s show every week, both important considerations for the “All-Decade” Team.

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Mar 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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