Kiffin was equally dogged. But when it was obvious that Jeffrey wasn't going to Tennessee, Kiffin took off the gloves.
According to Jeffrey and Wilson, Kiffin told Jeffrey that if he chose the Gamecocks, he would end up pumping gas for the rest of his life like all the other players from that state who had gone to South Carolina.
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As Southern California’s Pete Carroll and Tennessee’s Lane Kiffin, along with their assistants, did their best to make a final pitch to Jeffrey in the wee hours of that morning, Jeffrey made sure their conversations were on speaker phone. Mack was sitting there listening, too.
“It’s a whole different level, and these guys don’t give up easily,” Wilson said. “I don’t blame them. It’s what they do. It’s how they put bread on their table.”
Hearing our recruiting efforts be referred to as a “whole different level” alongside SC’s efforts is a good sign, I think.
Interesting.
I’m not sure what to make of it all. The intent of the writeup is to talk about the Kiffin comment (and it seems that Chris Low truncated some of the quotes for the sake of focusing on Kiffin), but it doesn’t feel like that’s the real story behind it.
I find the whole night-before-NSD arrangement odd. I don’t think the intent of the hotel room was to isolate the kid from the recruiting process – especially since they kept him on the phone with the various coaches until 3 in the morning. Additionally, the high school coach had a junior, Eric Mack, in the hotel room with them. Why would the junior need to be there? Did his mind need to be cleared too?
I find it much more plausible that the coach (Walter Wilson) wanted to make sure the kid stayed with South Carolina (which is fine; 11th-hour changes of heart often go wrong), and I also find it easier to believe that Wilson wanted Mack to hear a lot of the comments being made. Since USC had Jeffrey, any comments they made would be all sunshine and buttercups. Since SoCal and UT were working from a disadvantageous position (and especially SoCal, since he had decommitted from them), they were far more likely to discredit USC’s program.
And if Jeffrey was having difficulty staying awake, who was really doing the conversing from the hotel room? Again, it seems more plausible that the coach was keeping this going, and I think the goal was to help persuade Mack to sign with the Gamecocks next year. (That particular area of South Carolina is very Gamecock-friendly.)
That all being said, I’m not in any way attempting to excuse or exonerate what Kiffin might have said. And certainly, I can’t make any direct comment on that without actually knowing what was said or what the context was. For example, an unqualified “gas-pumping” comment would be wholly unnecessary, but if he was pointing out that USC had a bad track record of players not graduating and that their post-collegiate employments were limited, a “gas-pumping” comment might have been intended purely as a linguistic device. I’ve used that exact same analogy before in similar context, even though you never see attendants doing the gas-pumping anymore.
As Chris Low said, you can’t conclude anything in this, other than it’s been made more newsworthy because of prior speaking errors that Kiffin has made.
Excellent points
I’d agree that this was all most likely a Gamecock-driven effort on the part of the head coach.
I'm not so sure
The coach dismissed Kiffin of any wrong doing. Of course, he could have said this to Low and told Mack something else… I don’t know.
I'm guessing at it myself.
The context is just really weird, and I’m not sure what to make of it. I can’t imagine the coach was specifically hoping to get real derogatory comments on the phone, but I am leaning toward the thought that he wanted Mack to hear how things worked. That two of the bigger competitors happened to be relegated to phone conversations after 12:45 AM couldn’t have hurt Spurrier’s chances with Mack.
But I freely admit I could be reading the whole thing wrong. I wasn’t there and I don’t know anything of what led to the decision to stay in a hotel in Orangeburg.
I see where you're coming from
Just like the greatest question of all time…
The world may never know.
I gotta ask...
…do these guys not have a “power” button on their cell phones?
They do know you can turn them off, right?
I just wonder when
you guys will start to see how much of a tool your coach really is? Rivalry aside…this guy is just an idiot. I know there will be smack talk during that last few hours of NSD but who’s next on the kiffikns “smack talk” train? Bobby Bowden…Pete Carroll….Jesus Christ? I mean this guy is flamming everyone one in shouting distance and he has yet to prove he can do anything but lose? All i know is this…he better win…NOW! With all this talk he’s been doing of late, he better put up or shut the you know what up….Cause when Myer and Saban get their chance you better believe they will shut him up….
I just figured it out…Kiffin has the little man disease…he knows his inadequacies and he’s trying to make up from them by talking large….the problem is…at the core…he’s still a wee little man…
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
because its
like watching the attractive girl date the douche…you just don’t get what she sees in him….instead of the attractive girl you have a bunch of dudes wearing puke orange…
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
Argument of perspective, that.
It wouldn’t matter what color UT wore, you’d hate it. Even if they used crimson and white colors identical to Alabama, Alabama fans would find a difference sufficient to be hated. It’s an argument that can be said for fans of any team about any rival team.
Besides, your analogy first casts the fans as the attractive girl, then casts the team as the replacement of the attractive girl. You’ll want to keep it consistent.
ill try..
the fact is i hate the color orange..i can’t think of a team that i like, at all, that uses orange in its color scheme. The only one i can swing with would be the burnt orange texas uses but thats as close as it gets. The UT orange is just terrible. All jokes aside, i could never wear that color with pride. Remember i lived in Nashville for 6 years and saw plenty of it. So i have witnessed it in all its glory….but you are right about one thing…the fact that i really really don’t like UT plays a part…but the color plays a part in why i hate UT so much….
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
That's cool.
I went to high school that used orange and black colors and I grew up a Denver Broncos fan, so I was acclimated to it. I’ve always preferred cooler colors, though, so I can understand.
by David Hooper on Mar 9, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
This time around, we're going to wait for results before coming to conclusions.
For one, we don’t have any control over the matter. For two, we got burned last year when we started thinking the Clawfense would be this magical thing straight out of the box.
The bottom line is this: only two things matter in college football anymore – winning and not getting the program into trouble. Jump those two wickets, and absolutely nothing else matters. If you had told Florida fans during the Spurrier years that they’d be in love with a spread run system, they would have laughed at you. If Meyer hadn’t been so successful with it, they’d hate the whole system. As it is, the winning covers everything. Likewise, Bowden’s program was forgiven for many things when he was winning in the ‘90s. When the wins weren’t as impressive and the trouble kept coming, they started looking for ways to remove him “while preserving his dignity” (an effort that is still ongoing and is spearheaded by the whole coach-in-waiting concept: baby steps…)
I’m not entirely fond of that concept, but that’s college football today. Likewise, Alabama fans only care about Saban because he wins and because the program hasn’t gotten in any kind of debilitating trouble under him (for sake of argument, the current book swap thing is completely out of this). Same with Carroll at USC. Win, and don’t allow things to happen that keep you from winning down the road, and you’re awesome. Fall short of that, and you don’t have a friend in the world.
As for Meyer and Saban “shutting him up”; that’s the goal of every coach that faces UT, and that’s the goal of Meyer and Saban for every game they play, regardless of opponent. They know as well as the next guy that their future paychecks are no more certain than the next guy’s; all they can do is keep the wins coming and keep the fanbases pouring money into the coffers.
I hate that character doesn’t matter. I hate that community doesn’t matter. But the fact is, that era is now dead. Paterno and Bowden are the two remaining figureheads now that Fulmer is gone. All of the coaches now know that keeping their jobs depends solely on putting other coaches out of theirs.
And back to the point. We (“we” includes everybody, not just UT fans) have no data to judge Kiffin’s staff in by this new criteria. It’s too early for trouble to be considered debilitating (and there hasn’t been any yet, fortunately). They haven’t coached a single game at UT, so it’s too early to judge the wins/losses. With the way the contracts are written up, they’ll get two years to at least give people reason to believe that things will be sufficiently good. That’s the point we can come back and evaluate, but until then, we’re just wasting everybody’s time.
Why can't i judge him yet?
He’s walking around talking like he’s done something…he has practically called out every coach in the SEC and he’s only been around a few months…to me that shows his immaturity and will spell his doom. If and when UF puts 40 on yall, will that be ok…..when bama takes it to him will you forgive him? With all this talk you’d think he knows something we dont….the fact is….he doesn’t. UT is still a rebuilding project that will take a while. Saban from day one said it would be a process at Bama…I just dont get what he thinks he will gain by talking so much smack…but what do i know…
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
He won't gain.
I don’t know if I said it coherently, but my main point was that it doesn’t matter what he says or doesn’t say, so long as he doesn’t end up bringing major penalties against the team. I’ve never defended his comments about Meyer (quite the opposite, actually, and I still don’t feel any need to defend him) and I’m not one for brash talk myself. But it doesn’t tell us if he’ll fail or succeed on the field and the current college football economy places no real value on it anymore.
Again, it’s not a circumstance I care for, but that’s what it is.
(BTW, don’t take anything I’m saying personally. I’ve been embroiled in a lot of arguments over horribly misapplied logic over the last few weeks, and I’m in a particularly off mood about it tonight. I probably shouldn’t be responding. And no, I’m not saying you’re misapplying logic at all; I’m saying I’m not fully reasonable.)
by David Hooper on Mar 9, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
We appreciate your looking out for us.
And it sounds like you have a psychology degree, so it’s really nice to have you around. You can provide a lot of insight into the inner workings of a person’s mind whom you have never met and do not know. That’s pretty impressive.
Does anyone else find it amusing that a guy whose coach is like 4’11" and is known for being a control freak is accusing someone else of having Little Man’s disease?
NO prob man ill always be around to keep you guys straight :)
I just want to hear UT fans say they think their coaching is acting like an adolescent school boy trying to fit in with the cool crowd….the only guy around here so far that has come close is Hooper….he seems to be a little embarrassed…but i don’t want to put words in his mouth
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
I'm not the only one.
It’s just a part of sports fandom, though. When the Meyer thing happened, many fans from UT rivals went on a hate quest over it and spent a considerable amount of energy casting all UT fans as idiots because of a comment from the coach himself (as if those two things relate). The UT fans then got defensive, and the whole thing went nuclear from there.
That’s the way it always works. That happened in its own way with Alabama’s hire over Saban. Bama fans insisted they were happy to hire a quality coach. Others insisted the Bama camp had sold itself to the devil by hiring a guy who had sworn not to leave Miami one week prior. Round and round it went, with neither side backing off and, like here, neither side even bothering to meet face-to-face in most instances.
As far as my opinion of Kiffin: he just might be too immature for the post, or he might have made a couple cheap mistakes that are being taken for more than what they are. Again, the Meyer thing was the wrong thing to say, clearly, and there’s no shame to be had in recognizing that. This new quote about pumping gas is given with absolutely no context; it’s a quote that is very often used by anybody who’s stressing the value of an education, and I’ve never known it to be a big deal before. It might be a bad thing to say here, or it might be a pro-Gamecock coach and a new Gamecock player that see Kiffin as an “other” and therefore find undue offense in it. Either way, the timing may have been questionable, but we don’t know.
We’ll know over time. If Kiffin isn’t up to the job and/or if his mouth is uncontrollable, those problems are systemic and will continue. Right now, there is reason to raise an eyebrow over his speech, but not enough to close the book.
by David Hooper on Mar 9, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not embarrassed by the actions of others
I don’t live vicariously through my sports teams or sports figures. I really just think people need to lighten up and stop acting so holier-than-thou…. as if Saban (or any other coach) has never made disparaging remarks about another school. Give me a break.
Don’t you have some textbook stuff to be worrying about? FSU is on probation, Ole Miss has people going to jail, Florida just had a starting player miraculously cleared of all rape charges, and Bama is dealing with some fallout from some textbook nonsense…
But I’m supposed to be “embarrassed” because my “immature” coach said that South Carolina grads pump gas. Riiiight.
do you honestly think
the text book thing is that big of a deal? No one…not even Auburn fans think its going to bring anything more than a slap on the wrist…And again be careful what you say. Kiffin is just a few more slip ups away from a NCAA investigation..
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
I broke the number one rule of fight club
Never think that Alabama fight have done something wrong. Sorry, my bad. I never said it was going to destroy your program, but being accused of doing something, however minor, while your program was on probation isn’t exactly something to be proud of. Nice job of ignoring the rest of my argument, though.
A couple more slip-ups? Based one what? Secondary violations? Do you have inside knowledge of this from the NCAA? That’s a pretty big statement to make. I’d also say it’s safe to say that a lot of programs are “just a few slip-ups away” from an NCAA investigation. Like for instance if your players decided to abuse their free textbook privilege.
I dont see how i ignored it...
I really just think people need to lighten up and stop acting so holier-than-thou…. as if Saban (or any other coach) has never made disparaging remarks about another school.
I said in a later comment to hooper that I don’t recall Saban saying anything negative about another coach…besides the coonass comment.
Bama is dealing with some fallout from some textbook nonsense
See…even you agree is nonsense :)
A couple more slip-ups? Based one what? Secondary violations? Do you have inside knowledge of this from the NCAA?
You know it! I have the inside scoop! Of course i don’t but you don’t have to be a genius to see that he is already on his way. Everything he does or says will make some sort of front page news…if not at UT in the state of Florida, Alabama, or anywhere else he is hated. You are right all teams commit minor infractions….thats all the text book thing is. If alabama gets hit with anything more than a few scholly reductions then i call shenanigans on the NCAA.
Never think that Alabama fight have done something wrong
Oh we did something wrong…thats why we got hit with two probation’s in 10 years…this text book thing to me is nothing more than a witchhunt. We reported the violation as soon as we became aware and then suspended the players involved. Now im sure we will get some sort of penalty but again, anything more than a wrist slap would be ridiculous.
I’m not embarrassed by the actions of others
Yes you can…he represents your school. Bama fans were embarrassed when “the coach of which we don’t speak of” got caught with strippers….we were embarrassed by a lot things. You can try to take the high road and say it doesn’t bother you but i has to.
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
It's going to take a lot more than saying that SC grads pump gas
(which, incidentally… does anyone still pump gas anymore?) to get me embarrassed.
See, I try to make sure that I live my life in such a way that I do not bring embarrassment upon myself. I fail all of the time, just like everyone else. But I also make sure that I don’t spend my time worrying about the actions of others. Kiffin does not represent my school… he represents my sports team. In sports, trash talk goes on all of the time. I am not one to partake (unless I really know the people I’m playing with, and in that case it’s all in good fun), but it goes on all of the time. I am not going to be embarrassed because my coach is trash talking.
People like to pretend that the sports world is clean and everyone plays fair, but this just isn’t true, and it never has been. True competitors pull out all of the stops (within the rules, otherwise you’re a cheater, obviously) and do whatever they can to gain an advantage over their opponent. Noone (other than hooper, a long time ago) is pointing out that maybe Spurrier and this HS coach had a little plan of their own to steer future recruits away from UT. Maybe that’s true, and maybe it’s not… but don’t think for a second that every coach in the SEC doesn’t do everything he can to pull in players. What, you think Meyer extols the virtues of rival schools? You think Saban tells recruits in Memphis what a great opportunity it would be for them to play for UT?
For completeness
I’m not trying to single out other schools. UT has done dumb stuff, too. Around this time last year, we had a few players busted for drug possession, and they had recruits with them in the car.
I look at what Kiffin said to Jeffrey, and I laugh. Would I ever say something like that to someone about to choose a college? Heck no. Am I so naive as to think that it doesn’t happen all the time? Heck no. It doesn’t mean I think Kiffin is a god or does no wrong, but I never let what he says or does get past the point of entertainment.
Except on Saturdays in the Fall.
It's classic bootstrapping
Florida and Alabama have beaten us two years straight. Completely alpha-rolled us. We’ve had two seasons out of the past four that were fantastically miserable. What’s happened to the program, in the eyes of some, is that we’ve suffered much more than losing games; we’ve become losers. We are defined by it. At least that’s the way I think Kiffin and staff are seeing it.
So what comes first, winning or confidence? Confidence certainly comes from winning, but winning also depends to a degree on confidence. We have no opportunity to win any football games this spring, only the opportunity to build confidence, even if it must be manufactured. If the kids buy into it such that they get themselves ready to play, then we’ve done what we can at this point.
I, like hooper, am not one for boasting in everyday life. In that sense, to hear someone “in authority” do it is embarrassing. But two things on that point: (1) Kiffin’s not my authority figure, and (2) most importantly, this is sports, where many of the rules of proper etiquette are suspended for the sake of fun. Hate is generally a despicable perspective, but it sure is fun in the context of sports when we can lock arms against a common opponent the following Saturday. “Pride,” too, is generally not good when I’m wearing my tie and sitting at my desk, because the “fall” that follows can be very grave. But in sports a little bit of pride can add to the anticipation and excitement of the game. The fall may still come, but adding emotion to a game is a good thing, I think, and the worst that could come of it is losing a game. Generally.
In life, I try to suppress that kind of behavior, to beat it, to win over it. On Saturdays, when I’m wearing that orange you love so much, I’ll be like Holly screaming “IS THAT ALL YEWW GOT!” on the losing end of a 50-point beat down.
It appears that our team has developed over the past several years a bit of a submissive nature with respect to our rivals. I think the message is that that’s over. You and Florida and whomever else may beat us by 50 points this fall, but no matter the score, we’re done rolling over.
Bring it!
;-)
Rocky Top Talk
by Joel Hollingsworth on Mar 10, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Joel and Hooper...
I like you guys…a lot…very calm cool and collected..
to all UT fans here just FYI…When we hired Saban yes i looked past the whole Miami thing but i have never defended it. He handled that whole situation terribly but has come out MANY times and apologized. And to be honest Bama fans were WAY more desperate when we hired him. Do we have to remind you of the years from ‘99-2006? That aside…the man is an ass. Everyone knows it. I don’t personally like the way he yells on the side line…when i played ball i never liked those kind of coaches. Sure coaches blow a top every once in a while but when you are up by 36-0 and you’re freakin out….im not a fan. He’s a guy who coaches to the end…no matter what. I would also like him to be a bit more personable but whatever. He’s a football coach who is paid to coach football…not make me all warm and fuzzy. The truth is IF Saban had come in and failed in his first two years you would hear rumblings from the fanbase..and when i say fail i mean decent recruting…6-6 seasons with no hope in sight. But the man came in put together a top 10 class in ’07 then followed that up with two #1 classes in a row…all the while going undefeated in the regular season, with a trip to the SEC CG and a Sugar Bowl birth…When you have that kind of sucess that early…most people are willing to look beyond the brash attitude. And besides the coonass comment he made early on, I dont recollect a instance where he called out any coaches….
Saban has done his talking on the field and on the recruiting trail. Thats the type of coach (not man) i can respect. I don’t know Saban personally and i especially don’t know Kiffin. All i do know is what i see and so far….Kiffin has issues…big ones..
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
Our players
and our fans have developed it. I’m hoping it is disappearing.
It’s entertainment, and for people who can’t enjoy it for what it is, or at the very least ignore it… well, they just might need to restructure the priorities in their life.
If I wanted to do some amatuer psychoanalysis....
of my own, I would say that your statement is very telling. The “only thing you want” is for UT fans to say our feelings about our coach is the same as your feelings about our coach? Sounds like you have some control issues of your own. Why does it matter what we think about our coach? It doesn’t — except in your mind.
Maybe you're right but more than likely not...
I think its silly when i see Bama fans try to argue that Saban did nothing wrong after the Miami debacle. I’m all about sticking up for your coach but only if he is right.
The "only thing you want" is for UT fans to say our feelings about our coach is the same as your feelings about our coach?
No i don’t expect for UT fans to have the same feeling about their coach as their rivals do. That would be silly. But when i see/ hear UT fans argue that “he was just making a joke” or “we just don’t get him” then something inside me feels the need to speak up….after all…i have never seen a UT or Auburn fan pass up the chance to put a Bammer in his/her place..
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
The basic point I think we're all dancing around:
It’s ok for everybody to call a spade a spade – to recognize when their own coach screws up – and it’d be nice it the favor were reciprocated by allowing opponents the dignity of the same without raking them over the coals for it. That includes UT fans not shoving the Miami thing down Alabama’s throat every time Saban’s hiring comes up. He screwed that statement up; he admitted that and most Alabama fans recognize it. We don’t need to get worked up over it.
by David Hooper on Mar 10, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats easier said then done...
In a perfect world rivals would have complete respect for each other but we don’t live in a perfect world. In fact we live in the SEC where the most passionate fans live. I could have easily siad nothing….but i was bored and wanted to comment…never thought it would begin a debate war…thats a lie…i knew i would get a reaction.I like to debate/ argue as long as it stays nice…as soon as insults are thrown im gone.
It is funny how we started debating over Kiffin and some people reaction is throw the fault of others in my face…This is about Kiffin’s mistakes not Sabans or Myers….we can debate that in a different thread…Hey if you really want to stir the pot…start a post about Saban. Im sure you will get more bama fans then just me over here :)
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
oh and thats why i don't like
Track em Tigers…if you disagree with them…most of their commenters first reaction is to hurl insults…ive got better things to do then argue like school girls…
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
And always welcome.
And I don’t think I’ll be starting a Saban post anytime soon. I’m not a very argumentative type, and I don’t like the idea of writing flame posts simply to get visits to the site. (That’s a cheap, easy, and very common trick for bumping up the hitcounter – something that’s easy for a blogger to obsess over as an SEC fan obsesses over their team.)
by David Hooper on Mar 10, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Bammers are just bitter
because they are about to be put on probation. I just hope the NCAA also investigates the shadiness that went on behind the recruiting of Malone in Memphis and tack on another couple years to what they are hopefully getting.
They are also bitter because they have to live in Alabama, hey i would be too (well I am actually, because I go to law school in Tuscaloosa and it is a god awful place).
I think the biggest reason so many bammer fans resort to bashing our colors is because our colors are actually original. Bama stole Harvard’s colors and the Braves “A.” It says a lot about a man when he has to resort to criticizing a team because of their colors in my opinion. Just be a man and say you don’t like the team without bringing fashion into it
that has to be the dumbest thing i have ever read..
Bama fans bitter…jealous…of what!!! LOL!!! Your colors!!! Freakin awesome!!!! Im not going to say that Tennessee is an ugly state cause that would be stupid as well. I also wont say that Alabama is amazing beautiful but to say we are jealous is so stupid i can’t believe im even replying…
As to your bitter comment….i seriously doubt anything comes from a silly book scandel. And just remember pride cometh before the fall…and if your boy kiffen keeps it up…yall will be hit with a serious infraction in the next year….cause he can’t seem to do anything without breaking some sort of rule…
Oh and who sounds bitter with that Malone comment…come on man. think before you speak..
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
/amused
BTW, how did this spell-it-“kiffen”-if-you-want-to-aggravate-UT-fans thing get started?
by David Hooper on Mar 9, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure why i spelled in Kiffen...
Never did it intentionally…or did i….
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
lol
I assumed you did; it’s an easy way to rile people up, especially on the GVX chatboard. I just find it amusing, and am actually happy that people have found a non-profane way of getting a subtle dig in.
by David Hooper on Mar 10, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Not bitter, not jealous....worried
Yall are. So are florida fans. I can guarantee you wouldn’t be on this blog if Fulmer was still coaching. Kiffin’s brash attitude concerns you. He’s a better looking, younger, taller version of Saban with a better staff. You’re concerned and so your first instinct is to come on here and try to throw stones. If you weren’t concerned, you’d be somewhere else.
Did you just compare Kiffin to Saban.....
Sure he’s younger….im not sure about the better looking thing cause im not gay :) and yes he is taller. The staff thing has yet to be decided….you have to win to prove that point. And until Kiffin wins a NC, goes undefeated and wins the SEC….he’ll never be as good as Saban….no way no how…you don’t have to like Saban (cause in many ways i don’t) but you have to respect the coach….
When you are an Alabama fan you are expected to hate Auburn, I hate Tennessee because I want to.
Seems people have this vision
in there mines of how the SEC is supposed to operate. You’ve got a couple super powers who no one is supposed to make eye contact with and everyone else can just run along and play nice. Even if I don’t agree with everything our coaches say and may perfer them to be a little more reserved (I am on record), I do appreciate the fact that Kiffin really doesn’t give a crap who the big boys are and what his place is supposed to be. I can form my own opinion about my team and I’m just getting tired of the media and our rivals telling us how we should feel about our new coach.
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