NFL DRAFT LIVE COMMENT THREAD
by David Hooper on Apr 26, 2009 10:55 AM EDT
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PrintBumped to the top for day 2 of the NFL Draft. A heart WOO!! to Robert Ayers for being drafted in the first round by the Denver Broncos. --hooper
Well, today is the day!
It may seem odd that the NFL Draft receives so much attention and publicity. No other sport's draft even comes close to the sheer overhyping and overspeculating that occurs prior to and during the NFL's greatest offseason show. To me, though, the spectacle makes sense. For one, football is quite simply the biggest sport in the country (and yes, I know NASCAR's claims). Also, the timing works better for football than the other sports: with nearly four months between the last meaningful college football game and the draft, the NFL has the time to put players through workouts and build speculation. And building speculation is easy, what with all the football-only staff members on the major media sites with nothing better to do than update their mock drafts on a weekly basis. Lastly, there is more uncertainty in the draft. Who could have seen this coming, for example?
Oh, and there's this. Money lines:
"Everybody said if Marino was going to be around at that time, that they'd take Marino. Obviously, the Jets know something that the people up here don't."
or
"It's obvious to me right now that the Jets just don't understand what the draft is all about." -- Mel Kiper, way back... yeah, way back...
"We want Sapp! We want Sapp! We want Sapp!" -- NY Jets fans, right before...
"The New York Jets select: tight end from Penn State Kyle Reyes."
Even if the idea of televising a draft is a little over-the-top to you, you have to love the people-watching experience. You have Mr. Hair. You have Jets fans. You have Berman. You have Brady Quinn and a very, very unhappy girlfriend.
As to the Vols, we've pretty well covered their odds. Now it's just time to wait and see. The first-day drama will obviously be with Robert Ayers. He'll get picked up in one of the two rounds on Saturday, but to whom?
UPDATE: Be serious now; how many of you don't think Stafford's career with the Lions won't look something like this:
I warned you...
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Wait, so you get a "franchise" QB without an offensive line? That works.
I mean, just ask David Carr.
Hey, at least it made the "biggest bust" guesswork easy.
Hard to beat the old #1-draft-pick-to-shell-shock-in-three-easy-weeks route.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Leaf will rec your post as soon as he sees it.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless you did too.
And I misread yours.
Oy. Greeeeat start for me…
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in the car for the next four hours
But I should be back in time to watch the Titans thoroughly confuse me. TRADE FOR BOLDIN! (clap clap clapclapclap)
Will - Rocky Top Talk
Probably Jason Smith, yeah.
I don’t think Curry goes quite yet.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Which reminds me:
There’s a good chance the first three picks could be:
- a guy who couldn’t consistently hit WRs in college
- a guy from Baylor
- a guy from the ACC
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Love it when I'm right.
It doesn’t happen all that often. Then again, this wasn’t a toughie.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
There are any A&M fans left?
I didn’t know they still existed.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
My second guess would be a trade down.
But who’d trade with them? I mean, KC could use the extra picks, but it’s not like anybody else within range is eager to give up picks.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
I hope their shoulder’s okay if they do that reach.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's just idle talk.
It feels like the NFL has told the teams to bide their time on the 1st round picks so the networks can get their commentary in. Can’t confirm, obviously, but it has that feel.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN is hyping the everloving hell out of Curry, from what I can tell.
I have it on mute, though.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
NFLN has a live net feed if you feel better about it.
And NFLN is guessing Curry first as well.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they have enough of a need for a LB that they'll keep the pick.
Curry’s also been clear about being signable.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooh....Tyson Jackson to KC.
That will HUGELY help Ayers, as there is now no DE competition outside of Orakpo.
Wow, we were wrong.
As a general rule I like defensive picks from LSU, so I can’t really hate this pick too much. I think it’s a bit of a reach, but KC was in a tough position; Curry isn’t a player worth trading up for, so they were forced to draft the guy they wanted.
I agree.
Jackson is not a guy I wanted in KC, from a Denver-fan P.O.V. Gotta applaud the pick, especially for not worrying about the “reach” label.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
nvm
Just read your profile. No offense intended.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Crabtree?
I can see that if they’re trading Braylon Edwards, at least.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I really want them to take Sanchez
But that’s because of my Brady Quinn hate.
/HEISMAN!
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes sense.
They’re still in post-Favre depression.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Disappointing, really.
The Jets fans are far less entertaining when they’re happy.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Good grief, the Browns got a lot out of this.
A first, a second, and three players. Of course, it was a 12-to-5 move.
Er... 12 --> 17
The difference was 12 spots.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
In so many ways, this is a perfect pick for the Bengals.
Very highly talented pick, possible headcase, greater than average chance he’s going to bust.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Bingo.
And absolutely zero help for their defense.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
As a Broncos fan, how excited are you over that pick?
I’m still laughing.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I love it.
It lets me know that Davis is still running the asylum.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The guys at MHR are having an absolute party right now.
The draft is leaving a lot of good options for the Broncos at the moment. Chances are the #12 pick will be solid for them and they won’t have to trade up.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding, I've seen two blanks fired in a row right now.
Everyone else below them is in good shape. On the downside, there’s now a good chance the Bucs end up with Josh Freeman, which will make me want to punch something.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone needs to get Josh Freeman off the board.
I don’t particularly care where they go as long as it’s not there.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Monroe for Jacksonville.
Makes sense. This has been an absolutely terrific draft for Denver so far. With Clady and Harris, they don’t need a tackle for many years. This huge run on them has left a lot on the board.
Their complete lack of skill outside the offensive line.
Quick, name one skill position player at UVa in the last four years.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope so.
That’d set up a fantastic little comparison between WRs across the bay.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Sort of.
I sometimes think of things just after I hit the Post button. So I add to it.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Either him or Maclin.
I really really really really want Freeman to go here, though.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, man.
Freeman’s probably going to be available when the Bucs pick. Best of luck to you.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on, Washington.
Don’t let me down.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
And the crowd goes mild.
Kind of a “meh” pick, at least to me. Don’t find anything wrong with it, but it lacks a ton of sizzle.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Josh Freeman is on the board.
You don’t think Kyle Orton is your solution, do you? :D
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap.
crap crap crap crap crap crap crap
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Oops. Too late for that.
Gone to the Skins.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that pick a lot for them.
Hence, crap crap crap crap crap.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW, that pick is a break with tradition for the Broncos.
Going after a RB in the first round is so unlike anything I expect from the Broncos that I don’t know what to make of it. On the other hand, I think Moreno’s skills will translate.
That's the new coaching staff for you.
I think they didn’t want the Chargers to get him at #16.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
for the record, I think the Broncos hosed that pick up.
It’s not that Moreno was a reach, it’s that they needed the D-line help worse. Moreno doesn’t significantly improve the RB situation at Denver.
Yeah, I don't really like that pick too much for the Broncos.
Orakpo was the guy there, I think. On the other hand, Ayers is now in play for you at 18.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That's true.
I have no idea how he’d be in a 3-4, though. I’m not saying that in a negative sense; I just haven’t worked it out in my head.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
OLB?
Honestly, in a 3-4 he’d be best as a non-starting hybrid. At least that’s my thought.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much.
But I can’t see a 3-4 team taking a nonstarter in the first.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Cushing to Houston.
The Texans have slowly been building a ferocious defensive interior over the last few drafts.
English to the Chargers.
Again proving that the NFL scouts don’t get too hypnotized by the name of a school.
Kinda.
He might have been a late developer who turned into a monster too late for recruiting purposes.
Or the Chargers totally whiffed. One of the two.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not going to say they whiffed, but
I felt a breeze right after Goodell announced that pick.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda like putting with the 2-wood.
It’s doable, theoretically, but…
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Kiper saying he'd be OLB in their scheme.
Send my check to…
by Chris Pendley on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
They have.
And now the Moreno at 12 makes sense. They probably wanted Ayers all along and knew he’d still be there at 18. But san Diego probably would have taken Moreno at 16.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
So far, Denver has had the best draft of the 4.
Oakland is still in la-la land and the Chiefs and Chargers left better players on the table, IMHO.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when Cleveland traded the farm for 2 first-round picks to get a LT and Quinn?
This year is the equilibrium year for that.
Harvin to Minnesota
Interesting. Evidently, they believe that Minnesota is too cold for weed.
Unfortunately, Mr. Injury will be playing winter games in Green Bay and Chicago now.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Money line on NFLN (Mayock I think)
If he ends up on the love boat smokin’ a bone…
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Just Ayers so far.
He’s likely the only Vol today. (Only 2 rounds on day 1 this year.)
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't help you there.
Not that it means anything, but I never heard of him.
by David Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much.
Back from the Sam Wyche era, so apparently I just enjoy torture.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 26, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much.
Almost through the last round and Ayers is still the only Vol taken.
by David Hooper on Apr 26, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Succop is Mr. Irrelevant.
And with that, only one Vol was selected in the entire draft.
Congrats, Robert Ayers, for making us proud. Best of luck to you, son.
And best of luck to all Vols who get picked up as UDFAs.
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