NFL DRAFT LIVE COMMENT THREAD
by Hooper on Apr 26, 2009 10:55 AM EDT
in Tennessee Volunteer Football
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Bumped to the top for day 2 of the NFL Draft. A heart WOO!! to Robert Ayers for being drafted in the first round by the Denver Broncos. --hooper
Well, today is the day!
It may seem odd that the NFL Draft receives so much attention and publicity. No other sport's draft even comes close to the sheer overhyping and overspeculating that occurs prior to and during the NFL's greatest offseason show. To me, though, the spectacle makes sense. For one, football is quite simply the biggest sport in the country (and yes, I know NASCAR's claims). Also, the timing works better for football than the other sports: with nearly four months between the last meaningful college football game and the draft, the NFL has the time to put players through workouts and build speculation. And building speculation is easy, what with all the football-only staff members on the major media sites with nothing better to do than update their mock drafts on a weekly basis. Lastly, there is more uncertainty in the draft. Who could have seen this coming, for example?
Oh, and there's this. Money lines:
"Everybody said if Marino was going to be around at that time, that they'd take Marino. Obviously, the Jets know something that the people up here don't."
or
"It's obvious to me right now that the Jets just don't understand what the draft is all about." -- Mel Kiper, way back... yeah, way back...
"We want Sapp! We want Sapp! We want Sapp!" -- NY Jets fans, right before...
"The New York Jets select: tight end from Penn State Kyle Reyes."
Even if the idea of televising a draft is a little over-the-top to you, you have to love the people-watching experience. You have Mr. Hair. You have Jets fans. You have Berman. You have Brady Quinn and a very, very unhappy girlfriend.
As to the Vols, we've pretty well covered their odds. Now it's just time to wait and see. The first-day drama will obviously be with Robert Ayers. He'll get picked up in one of the two rounds on Saturday, but to whom?
UPDATE: Be serious now; how many of you don't think Stafford's career with the Lions won't look something like this:
I warned you...
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Oh, no.
I was going for the “Run away” bit.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait, so you get a "franchise" QB without an offensive line? That works.
I mean, just ask David Carr.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, at least it made the "biggest bust" guesswork easy.
Hard to beat the old #1-draft-pick-to-shell-shock-in-three-easy-weeks route.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Leaf will rec your post as soon as he sees it.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you did too.
And I misread yours.
Oy. Greeeeat start for me…
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in the car for the next four hours
But I should be back in time to watch the Titans thoroughly confuse me. TRADE FOR BOLDIN! (clap clap clapclapclap)
Will - Rocky Top Talk
by Will on Apr 25, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW, I'll be over at Mile High Report most of the time.
But I’ll be here.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ARP ARP ARP SEE WE TOLD YOU HE'D BE A QUALITY QB ARP ARP ARP
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matthew Stafford
Loads of guaranteed money in his contract. Somebody did have mercy on his soul.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who do you think will be #2?
I’m going with the tackle from Baylor.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably Jason Smith, yeah.
I don’t think Curry goes quite yet.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which reminds me:
There’s a good chance the first three picks could be:
- a guy who couldn’t consistently hit WRs in college
- a guy from Baylor
- a guy from the ACC
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love it when I'm right.
It doesn’t happen all that often. Then again, this wasn’t a toughie.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Jason Smith's draft spot, A&M fans are officially poking their eyeballs out.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There are any A&M fans left?
I didn’t know they still existed.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably.
They were the clear top 3.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My second guess would be a trade down.
But who’d trade with them? I mean, KC could use the extra picks, but it’s not like anybody else within range is eager to give up picks.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
I hope their shoulder’s okay if they do that reach.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's just idle talk.
It feels like the NFL has told the teams to bide their time on the 1st round picks so the networks can get their commentary in. Can’t confirm, obviously, but it has that feel.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is hyping the everloving hell out of Curry, from what I can tell.
I have it on mute, though.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFLN has a live net feed if you feel better about it.
And NFLN is guessing Curry first as well.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they have enough of a need for a LB that they'll keep the pick.
Curry’s also been clear about being signable.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh....Tyson Jackson to KC.
That will HUGELY help Ayers, as there is now no DE competition outside of Orakpo.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, we were wrong.
As a general rule I like defensive picks from LSU, so I can’t really hate this pick too much. I think it’s a bit of a reach, but KC was in a tough position; Curry isn’t a player worth trading up for, so they were forced to draft the guy they wanted.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, 'snail,
Who’s your NFL team? Redskins?
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Curry to Seattle. No surprise there after KC's pick.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You think they just ran up there as soon as Jackson got picked?
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the Commish asked them to wait a minute to Jackson could get his picture taken on stage.
But yes, basically.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Browns trading?
That’s the time-filler right now. If not, I have no idea who they’d take.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really want them to take Sanchez
But that’s because of my Brady Quinn hate.
/HEISMAN!
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YaY! The Jets are up!
This is the best part of the draft.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense.
They’re still in post-Favre depression.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disappointing, really.
The Jets fans are far less entertaining when they’re happy.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good grief, the Browns got a lot out of this.
A first, a second, and three players. Of course, it was a 12-to-5 move.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Er... 12 --> 17
The difference was 12 spots.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In so many ways, this is a perfect pick for the Bengals.
Very highly talented pick, possible headcase, greater than average chance he’s going to bust.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darius Heyward-Bey:
From one trainwreck to another.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As a Broncos fan, how excited are you over that pick?
I’m still laughing.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it.
It lets me know that Davis is still running the asylum.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guys at MHR are having an absolute party right now.
The draft is leaving a lot of good options for the Broncos at the moment. Chances are the #12 pick will be solid for them and they won’t have to trade up.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding, I've seen two blanks fired in a row right now.
Everyone else below them is in good shape. On the downside, there’s now a good chance the Bucs end up with Josh Freeman, which will make me want to punch something.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How's it shaping up for the Bucs right now?
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone needs to get Josh Freeman off the board.
I don’t particularly care where they go as long as it’s not there.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Monroe for Jacksonville.
Makes sense. This has been an absolutely terrific draft for Denver so far. With Clady and Harris, they don’t need a tackle for many years. This huge run on them has left a lot on the board.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Question: if Virginia has had so many great offensive linemen in recent years, how come their offense has been so horrid?
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Their complete lack of skill outside the offensive line.
Quick, name one skill position player at UVa in the last four years.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so.
That’d set up a fantastic little comparison between WRs across the bay.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either him or Maclin.
I really really really really want Freeman to go here, though.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, man.
Freeman’s probably going to be available when the Bucs pick. Best of luck to you.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, Washington.
Don’t let me down.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buffalo's already got their pick in?!
Wow.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And the crowd goes mild.
Kind of a “meh” pick, at least to me. Don’t find anything wrong with it, but it lacks a ton of sizzle.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh Freeman is on the board.
You don’t think Kyle Orton is your solution, do you? :D
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moreno????
um… That’s what the #18 pick was for, buddy.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops. Too late for that.
Gone to the Skins.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that pick a lot for them.
Hence, crap crap crap crap crap.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW, that pick is a break with tradition for the Broncos.
Going after a RB in the first round is so unlike anything I expect from the Broncos that I don’t know what to make of it. On the other hand, I think Moreno’s skills will translate.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's the new coaching staff for you.
I think they didn’t want the Chargers to get him at #16.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for the record, I think the Broncos hosed that pick up.
It’s not that Moreno was a reach, it’s that they needed the D-line help worse. Moreno doesn’t significantly improve the RB situation at Denver.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't really like that pick too much for the Broncos.
Orakpo was the guy there, I think. On the other hand, Ayers is now in play for you at 18.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's true.
I have no idea how he’d be in a 3-4, though. I’m not saying that in a negative sense; I just haven’t worked it out in my head.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OLB?
Honestly, in a 3-4 he’d be best as a non-starting hybrid. At least that’s my thought.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much.
But I can’t see a 3-4 team taking a nonstarter in the first.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, the QBs left on the board are terrible.
Give me Nate Davis in the 3rd.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Malcolm Jenkins to the Saints.
Tough break for the Thorpe winner runner-up (in an ideal world).
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cushing to Houston.
The Texans have slowly been building a ferocious defensive interior over the last few drafts.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
English to the Chargers.
Again proving that the NFL scouts don’t get too hypnotized by the name of a school.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Larry English!
That’s like a free pass, right?
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kinda.
He might have been a late developer who turned into a monster too late for recruiting purposes.
Or the Chargers totally whiffed. One of the two.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not going to say they whiffed, but
I felt a breeze right after Goodell announced that pick.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda like putting with the 2-wood.
It’s doable, theoretically, but…
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As an aside, when Ayers gets picked, I’ll be busy for a bit getting a post written up about it.
…back to the show…
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kiper saying he'd be OLB in their scheme.
Send my check to…
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have.
And now the Moreno at 12 makes sense. They probably wanted Ayers all along and knew he’d still be there at 18. But san Diego probably would have taken Moreno at 16.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't let SD get an upper hand on ya... next year should be really interesting in that division.
by BigBeefe on Apr 25, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far, Denver has had the best draft of the 4.
Oakland is still in la-la land and the Chiefs and Chargers left better players on the table, IMHO.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when Cleveland traded the farm for 2 first-round picks to get a LT and Quinn?
This year is the equilibrium year for that.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Harvin to Minnesota
Interesting. Evidently, they believe that Minnesota is too cold for weed.
Unfortunately, Mr. Injury will be playing winter games in Green Bay and Chicago now.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Money line on NFLN (Mayock I think)
If he ends up on the love boat smokin’ a bone…
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Oher to Baltimore in the first.
Not bad, considering his history.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A run on SEC guys.
Harvin, Oher, Jerry in order
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just Ayers so far.
He’s likely the only Vol today. (Only 2 rounds on day 1 this year.)
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't help you there.
Not that it means anything, but I never heard of him.
by Hooper on Apr 25, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still pissed the Bucs got Freeman.
by Graysnail on Apr 25, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I take it you're a Bucs fan?
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
by birdjam on Apr 26, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much.
Back from the Sam Wyche era, so apparently I just enjoy torture.
by Graysnail on Apr 26, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is Tennessee's worst draft since 1993
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
by birdjam on Apr 26, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much.
Almost through the last round and Ayers is still the only Vol taken.
by Hooper on Apr 26, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Succop is Mr. Irrelevant.
And with that, only one Vol was selected in the entire draft.
Congrats, Robert Ayers, for making us proud. Best of luck to you, son.
And best of luck to all Vols who get picked up as UDFAs.
by Hooper on Apr 26, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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