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  • The Jesse Scroggins Watch heads to Los Angeles, where it sounds like Pete Carroll is upping the ante on that whole "everything's a competition" idea:  six quarterbacks, 48 hours, one scholarship offer.  Even if Scroggins wins the day at SC, don't expect an automatic commitment, and don't expect anything soon:  despite telling KNS that he would announce his decision between Florida, Tennessee and USC quickly, he told ESPN on Tuesday that he would announce at the Elite 11 camp...in late July.  We need you, Jesse.  Now more than ever.  Don't toy with our emotions for another month.  Check out ESPN.com's interview with Scroggins for his extended thoughts on all three schools.
  • This is a couple of days old, but Clay Travis is saying with "blog certainty" that Tennessee will open the season against Western Kentucky at 12:30 PM in the old JP/LF/Raycom slot (...which is now ESPN regional, I think), and then host UCLA at 4:00 PM the following week, presumably on ESPN(2).  CBS has Tennessee/Florida as their first national telecast the next week at 3:30...which means sunscreen is a must in the month of September.
  • TWITTERTRACKER:  Mike Hamilton's page tells us that the new JumboTron will not have the old VOLS letters at the top, to be replaced with a Power T.  More on the sacrifice of tradition momentarily...

Tennessee Basketball

  • The must-read of the day comes from...that's right, Bruce Pearl.  He's all over the place with the NBA Draft tomorrow night, and aside from his radio and television appearances as an analyst for NBATV, he's writing daily columns at NBA.com.  His first piece, on why college players are better suited for the NBA, is well-written, insightful, and full of love for the Vols and the SEC.  Ditto for Pearl's "Super Seven" piece, which channels Dickie V (in a good way), and his thoughts on the best sleepers in the draft.  You cannot buy this kind of exposure...even if you're Memphis.

College Football

  • Oregon (bonus points if you didn't do the standard double-take because you thought it said "Orgeron") has new unis.  Again.  Holly has a thorough breakdown... (on soapbox) you know, one day soon when all college uniforms are overly crowded with corporate logos and other assorted fun, we'll look back on this moment.  Because if Oregon can put wings on their shoulders, I guarantee you that every major program in the country has someone in their athletic department who's looking at those pictures and thinking up new ways to blaspheme their program's unis.  When teams like North Carolina will prostitute themselves to Nike and allow for drastic changes in the basic color scheme, what's the college football world coming to?  (off soapbox)
  • Being in the mix for the head coaching job at Tennessee has its perks:  Cincinnati's Brian Kelly just signed a one year extension, upping his salary to a hefty $1.5 million per year.
  • RollBamaRoll takes a look at Nick Saban's book, How Good Do You Want To Be? (subtitle:  That Depends on The Going Rate of Textbooks).  The best part about this book is that Saban wrote it in 2004, fresh off his National Championship at LSU.  It is apparently and obviously full of LSU stories.  But they've repackaged it with a shiny new Bammer cover and the same Saban grin, which I'm sure will catch some Tide faithful off guard if/when they read it.  More fun:  an Amazon search for "Lane Kiffin" returns this book

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I do not like the removal of the V O L S letters at all, but I guess I will bend to Hamilton’s judgement considereding all the moves he’s made so far from Bruce Pearl on down have looked pretty good. I didn’t like the fact that the stadium is losing seats either, but that’s just me I guess

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!

by VolBrian on Jun 24, 2009 8:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NO!!!

This is terrible! Whose lame-brain idea was this? Who are we? The T’s??? NO, we are the VOLS!

by golfballs03 on Jun 24, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pearl

fantastic stuff, and his pose in the sidebar is absolutely classic!

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!

by VolBrian on Jun 24, 2009 8:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Either way...

If that WKU game is at 12:30, it’s going absolutely scorching and it’s going to suck. I was hoping for a nice cool 7 p.m. kickoff…

by Home Sweet Home on Jun 24, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we're going to have September early afternoon kickoffs, why not play northern teams?

I mean, I understand that WKU is more ‘northerly’ than UT, but why not bring in somebody who’s used to cold weather to sit and fry in that sauna?

I nominate Bowling Green…

by Hooper on Jun 24, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure if you've ever been to Cali

But the UCLA team will not like it. Not one bit.

by rblakeh on Jun 24, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The hottest game I can ever remember being at

was one of these September afternoon kickoffs against UCLA way back in ‘91, where one of our o-linemen threw up thru his facemask. Maybe it’ll rain.

by Will on Jun 24, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My mom almost passed out at that game. People were taking turns sitting in the ice machines in the concourse.

Is that the game where Smokey died of heat stroke?

by CornFromAJar on Jun 24, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn't die

But did leave the game and was listed on the injury report the following week with heat exhaustion. Smokey VI did retire at the end of that season though.

by Will on Jun 24, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was he the one

that allegedly bit someone? Or snapped or whatever? Shame they retired him over that.

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!

by VolBrian on Jun 24, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last time we did the 12:30 home opener

…we almost got beat by UAB in ‘05. This does mean, however, that we’ll get to watch Georgia/Oklahoma State and Alabama/Virginia Tech that evening.

by Will on Jun 24, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like how Scroggins talks about the enormity of The Swamp as a draw for UF

Everybody knows that Neyland > BHG

/gatorbait

now with less meyton panning.

by Pride of the Southland on Jun 24, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've been to both

The Swamp is louder.

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by Year2 on Jun 24, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends

On when or what season you’re talking about really. I’m sure the Swamp has been very, very loud in recent years, but my ears rang for a solid week after Wilhoit hit that 50-yarder to beat you guys in Neyland in 2004 (I believe).

Not meant as a dig, just that Neyland has been a little on the quiet side recently.

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!

by VolBrian on Jun 24, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with comparing stadia.

Much of stadium noise is perception and much is apocryphal. About half a dozen stadiums claim to have been the loudest ever, for example. And each stadium has its own hot spots where the sound energy gets focused. (That’s probably the key behind Autzen, particularly with that insanely large sound reflector.)

I wish they’d put decibel meters on the hats of the head referees at all games for a year and get some good data on the field levels. I have a suspicion that the levels near the quarterback can be very different from the sideline levels (and the levels at various locations in the seats).

As for Neyland, if there’s any problem with volume, it’s the fans. There’s a reason we all were surprised when O was able to get a bunch of bluehairs jumping and yelling in that video that Joel posted recently – we haven’t seen them do that in years.

For my money, I’d bet that if UT was the one winning NCs and UF was the one struggling for 3rd in the East that the effect of crowd participation would reverse.

by Hooper on Jun 24, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

I wish they’d put decibel meters on the hats of the head referees at all games for a year and get some good data on the field levels

That would be awesome.

I do remember a South Carolina-Tennessee game ine year when Lou Holthhhhhhhh was still their coach and ESPN did just that, getting dB levels over 110, but who knows where that meter actually was.

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!

by VolBrian on Jun 24, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know about your last point; it still got pretty loud during the Zook years.

Anyway, according to ESPN’s sound meters, Autzen Stadium (Oregon) has had the loudest measured peak noise level, but that’s entirely because they gamed the architecture for nothing but sound capture. It’s record crowd is a shade under 59,400. The Swamp is second.

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by Year2 on Jun 24, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s actually pretty consistent, remarkably. It’s good but not great for the non-conference games, better for normal SEC contests, and it’s incredibly loud for the rivalry games. The 2003 Swindle in the Swamp game versus FSU was the biggest emotional roller coaster of a game I’ve ever attended, and it was as loud as it ever has been (only mostly, it was booing the refs who ABSOLUTELY earned it).

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by Year2 on Jun 24, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the bugaboo about the sound meters.

Places like LSU and Clemson claim to have gone over 130 dB, but they weren’t recorded by the magical/mystical ESPN official sound-o-meters. ESPN’s not the only one who records these things, but there’s a lot of contention about which measurements should be considered “official”, and a lot of people like to associate ESPN with official.

Because of that, I’m not willing to credit any stadium as loudest (or second, or third, or etc.). There are a handful that can get really freaking loud.

And I am all in favor of sound reflecting the bejabbers out of Neyland. If they’re not going to put a second JumboTron on the north end, I want them to extend those reflectors out to at least twice their length. More importantly, I want sound reflectors on the East side. That would not only capture all the reflected sound that’s bouncing upwards off the press/club box, it would provide a lot of shade to those poor, sweltering souls in the east stands. Maybe they’d get up and cheer for a change if their necks weren’t getting burned.

by Hooper on Jun 24, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Been to both...

Neyland many times and the Swamp in 2007. Both are loud, and saying for sure which one is louder is a guess until they do something like sound level deals on the field, as was suggested…

I’ll put it this way: I sat 3 rows from the top of the Swamp and it was comparable in sound to being in the UT student section, so I can imagine how loud it gets on the field.

Another theory of sorts is that I would assume that the average age of Gator fans is slightly younger than UT and younger fans are more prone to make more noise. To add to that, UF has a larger student population and it takes up nearly half the place, whereas at UT they stick some of us in the corner and the rest in the upper deck. Just some thoughts…

by Home Sweet Home on Jun 24, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would definitely make a difference.

I do get frustrated at times with the way that UT handles the student sections at the sporting events. It’s much worse in basketball, where they do their best to minimize the homefield advantage by sticking so many students in the corner where they do no good, volume-wise. But I’ve often wondered: if Hamilton could get out from under the myriad of guaranteed seating assignments in Neyland, would he bring all the students down into the first row on the west side?

(Better yet, and I know that traditional types would hate this suggestion, but could they switch the sideline assignments? The east sideline is far kinder to the team, both in terms of earlier shade and in terms of a quieter fanbase behind you. A lot could be gained by placing the visiting team in the heat of the sun with the student section directly behind them.)

by Hooper on Jun 24, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The sidelines used to be switched

They changed it sometime in the early 90s, can’t remember exactly when, because of what I’m sure was some unruly student behavior. When I was a little kid the Vols used to make a right turn thru the T instead of a left…Hamilton may not even know about that, but if we switched back I’m sure it wouldn’t take long for the same situation to present itself.

by Will on Jun 24, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How'd you go this far without mentioning Orange Nation?

I firmly place the “Swamp is louder” talk at their feet. Fix it; that’s what you say you’re supposed to do, at least.

by Graysnail on Jun 24, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point.

Also, I heard on the radio today why we don’t have the visitors use the east sidelines. Evidently the SEC has a rule that the home team must be on the same side as the students. Gee, I couldn’t Bama imagine why that Gator rule would have ever been LSU instituted Auburn…

by Hooper on Jun 24, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the field it can be deafening.

I played sousaphone in the Gator Band for three years. At the end of the pregame routine, the band makes a U and an F that the team runs between. As they run through it, the band plays the fight song.

I usually ended up in the U somewhere, and the drumline was always on the side of the F closest to the players. At the rivalry games (UT and FSU) I could literally hear only myself playing (barely) and the bass drums. The crowd completely drowned out the other 230 or so band members, including those standing right next to me. It’s intense, and a feeling I’ll never forget.

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by Year2 on Jun 24, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are listening to the opinion of a BAND member?

And a Gator one at that. This is a Civil Board, indeed!

by memphispete on Jun 24, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call me back when UT pays you to go to road games. Band folk ain’t always in it ‘cause they’re nerds.

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by Year2 on Jun 24, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Problem is this:

Band + Blogger. I’m one of those, too. From what I’ve seen, the odds aren’t in your favor. ;)

by Hooper on Jun 24, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is no Free Lunch

Hours of practice in the grueling Gainesville heat. Playing an instrument. Surrounded by geeks. A lifetime of scorn and mockery. Not sure that pain & suffering is worth the compensation of a free road trip as a student.

But, I also know lifelong Vandy fans, who apparently don’t mind pain, suffering and disappointment. To each his own.

And, if hooper was a band member, there’s at least one cool person out there, so your odds went up from nil to something better than zero, year2. Perhaps I just need a broader perspective. Thanks.

by memphispete on Jun 25, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For what it's worth

I do like Oregon’s new carbon fiber helmets. I don’t know if they’re actual carbon fiber, but they have that look. It’s pretty nice, as long as you’re into the whole jettison-school-colors-for-design kind of thing.

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by Year2 on Jun 24, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Those do look cool

but my problem is that it’s just one step from the GO HARD – GO OREGON – GO DUCKS (and anything else it might say) to putting JUST DO IT up there. And that’s where all of this is headed.

by Will on Jun 24, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good points, but...

… as a counter-point (mainly to Holly,) is navy blue really “drastic changes in the basic color scheme”? The Tarheels have had navy in their uniforms (granted, as an accent color,) for as long as I can remember.

As for Oregon, I tend to doubt that a lot of athletic departments look toward them as role models. I think most people see Oregon’s ever-changing uniforms as somewhat of a joke. And they have a pretty unique relationship with Nike because of Phil Knight, so I doubt we need to worry about other schools following suit too much. I know that a lot of schools have allowed Nike to bastardize their unis already (UF and Virginia Tech are the first that come to mind for me,) but I see Oregon as an extreme of the present, not a sign of the future.

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Jun 24, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's drastic to me

Because they’re usually so proud of “Carolina Blue”. When you see that color, in the sporting world you think of them. When they wear the darker blue…they look like Duke. How is that okay?

by Will on Jun 24, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that just an "alternate" uni, though?

And aren’t all “alternate” jerseys (in all of sports) pretty much hideous?

At least according to the almighty Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina_Tar_Heels_football), their “normal” jerseys are still Carolina blue.

Regardless, my point was not that it was a great look, but that it was not really a “drastic change in the basic color scheme” to have an alternate jersey in a color that you have had in your uniforms for years. Tarheels clad in yellow would be a drastic change in the color scheme, in my mind. Something like that.

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Jun 24, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"You cannot buy this kind of exposure...even if you're Memphis."

Well sure, not anymore. Kentucky, on the other hand…

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Jun 24, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

btw, missed your reply earlier.

I’ve been to Cali a few times and I agree that UCLA isn’t going to like Neyland in September. And that’s just commenting on the weather. ;-)

by Hooper on Jun 24, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will when they're not busy taking care of the other UT...

And it’s in Laramie, even.

(Ok now, if I were to tell you that Wyoming would play Texas and Florida Atlantic in the same season, would you honestly have thought that the home game would have been against UT-A?)

by Hooper on Jun 25, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, based on that you're washing it on Sept. 13th?

I mean, you did say you’d wash it when UT beats Wyoming….

by Graysnail on Jun 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, everybody knows that UT means Tennessee

and TU means Texas.

But I’m hoping that the point is moot either way. ;-)

by Hooper on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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