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Recruiting Tuesday: Much Ado About Quarterbacks

UPDATE:  Markeith Ambles is now updated to a Tennessee COMMIT!  Boy, it felt good to delete the "appears to be leaning toward the Gators" phrase out of his description.  -hooper

Does it seem to you like it's only been 5 days since Jesse Scroggins went domestic and committed to his hometown Trojans?  To me, it feels like it's been a couple of weeks already, what with all the activity surrounding SEC Media Days.

And perhaps even more helpful has been the commitment of Nick Lamaison, who fills the huge gap in what would have normally been the 2009 recruiting class.  With Lamaison - a very highly regarded JC player - year 2010 and particularly year 2011 are much less uncertain.

Sure, Lamaison doesn't fill the 2010 void that we're all waiting on, but we seem to be handling rejection quite nicely as our eyes have mostly turned towards Tyler Bray.  Bray, a 6'-6" beanstalk who needs to gain a lot of weight, surprised a lot of people at the Elite 11 camp and has suddenly jumped into the conversation as one of the pro-style prospects to watch.  If he gets to around 210 lbs by the end of his senior season and has a standout year, he may turn out to be one of the highest prospects of the year.  And UT seems to have turned their sights on him right now.

More on individual players in a second.  But first, the board:

 

 

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ADDITIONS

  • Nick Lamaison was already on the board but has been upgraded to a COMMIT.
  • Tyler Bray has been added as a quarterback prospect.  Technically, he's a San Diego State commit, but that's never going to stop this staff.

REMOVALS

  • Jordan Allen, DE, has committed to LSU
  • Kaleb Eulls, DE, has committed to MSU
  • Corey Miller, DE, has committed to Florida State
  • Tyler Stephenson, CB, has committed to Baylor
  • Jesse Scroggins, QB, has committed to Southern Cal
  • Chase Rettig, QB, has committed to Boston College
  • Nickel Robey, CB, has committed to Georgia
  • T.J. Stripling, DE, has committed to Georgia

Some of the removals were commits from weeks previous, but I have removed their markers from the board.  On that note, do notice that there are far more prospect markers on the board than UT could possibly take in.  That means that you'll see more players go elsewhere than to UT; don't let the math worry you.  Unless we end up with a class of 3.  Then we can worry.

I have also eliminated quarterbacks who have committed elsewhere.  It's very rare for quarterbacks to change because they become a part of the recruiting process and begin to have a vested interest in their first team of choice.  The only feasible way UT can flip a quarterback is to have such a stellar offense this year that they become convinced that Lane's offense is the one for them.  (If we have that great of a year, remind me and I may consider putting other schools' prospects back up.  But until then, they're gone.)

On Nick Lamaison

When Lamaison committed, the GVX knives came out quickly to inform us that JC quarterbacks don't belong in the SEC.  I'm not going to assert that Lamaison will be the second coming of Peyton or anything, but I would like to point out a couple things about Lamaison.  First, his mechanics are sharp.  (As a freshman, he was a JC All-American.)  Second, he's exiting the JC system a year early.  To do that, you have to have enough coursework knocked out to satisfy the academic requirements, and it takes a bright kid to pull it off.  (There's a reason nobody recruiting the top JC quarterback of his year - nobody believed he was available.)  His grades are in great shape and he learns quickly.  He also plays the system well, and was willing to wait until after Scroggins made up his delayed mind.  He at least deserves a chance to earn his reputation on his own merits, but I can list reasons to believe in the kid just as easily as Adams can list reasons to doubt.  Only my reasons have to do with Lamaison himself.

On Tyler Bray

Bray is an interesting prospect.  First, if you haven't seen him, take a look at this video so you get a feel for him.  The one thing that doesn't really come across is his height - 6'-6" or 6'-7" depending on your favorite flavor of internet recruiting site.  But at less that 200 lbs, he's really thin; unless he has some massive weight gain over the next few months that magically comes in the form of well-proportioned muscular bulk, he's a certain redshirt.  The reason he's getting attention at all is that his mechanics are absolutely terrific.  He needs a bit more fine-tuning on footwork (a natural consequence of growth spurts), but there really isn't a flaw in his form.  He can throw downfield with a lot of accuracy and zip and he plays very controlled.

If Lamaison had not been signed, Bray would probably not be a good risk.  He's almost certainly going to need a year to redshirt and grow, which means that a Lamaison-less squad would have only Mike Rozier between one Nick Stephens injury and a Flying Wedge offense in 2010.  But with Lamaison aboard, there are 2 quarterbacks in place once Crompton graduates that can fill the gap between Stephens and Bray (hypothetically speaking here).  That tones down the risk quite considerably and makes a redshirt project a far better option to consider.

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After last year, would this really be so bad?  (via www.eteamz.com)

 

If the staff goes after Bray, you can bet that it's because their evaluations reveal something special in him.  He's going to be a project, but he might be a project worth spending the capital on.  Besides, it's not like UT's never had success with tall, lanky ones...

 

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trust this staff to get what we need. I have never really been that big on any of the QB’s for the 2010 class, moreso on the recruiting boost a commit from a highly ranked QB gives, but with the recruiters we have, that shouldn’t be much of a problem either.

Anybody know of QB’s for 2011? I’ll start hunting info…

And, Manning is freakin’ hilarious.

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Jul 28, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just in time Hoop!!

Add an update. See fanshots for a top 150 WR!!

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Jul 28, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

RE: mechanics

After watching his video, it’s clear that he has an excellent release, evidenced by a tight spiral. However, it seems as though the majority of the acceleration is coming from his arm and not from his torso, especially on throws to the right. Being 6’6", he can get a lot of torque on the ball primarily using just his arm, but take a look at the downfield go route to the right WR. He leaves it well short, and seems to be putting a lot of strain on his arm. Don’t get me wrong, I like his potential. But like hooper mentioned, his footwork, and especially how this translates to his throwing motion, needs a good bit of improvement.

by marmotman on Jul 28, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also seems to want to throw it at their knees.

But I looked at a couple of the other USC vids from that day, and to be honest, he wasn’t the worst.

RIP Steve McNair (1973 - 2009) Retire #9!
Member of the Committee to Keep Keith Bulluck.
Eric Berry for Heisman!!

by Pride of the Southland on Jul 28, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another QB

For the chart. Eddie Sullivan. Interested in UT, I don’t know if there is an offer, I doubt there is yet.

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Jul 28, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MVP runner-up

I believe he was #2 in MVP votes at the 7on7 camp behind Jake Heaps. And that includes some of the top players in the country – including Jesse Scroggins

by golfballs03 on Jul 28, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Aargh!

The one day I had no computer access all day long due to a training seminar is the one day I really needed to stay on top of this.

I’ll catch up to all these updates. I swarez it. Thanks for adding comments here, though. I’ll take a look at Eddie Sullivan and I’ll get Ambles up as soon as I can.

Fortunately, updating the map updates all the Google Earth downloads instantly. :-D

by Hooper on Jul 28, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On the Adams JC article & whether Kiffin "gets it" on the need for a QB

How many of the JC’s evaluated were All-Americans as JC’s and how many entered a backfield as devoid of QB prospects? Dunno, but my bet is “none” and “none”. Great pt hooper. (Sometimes Adams just has to fill a column space. Looks like one of those articles.)

Do people think Kiffin fails to understand the need at QB after his previous experience with Heisman and NFL QB’s at USC? Do they think he’s somehow looking at Crompton and Stevens & saying “no need to recruit heavily – cause we’re stacked at QB”? Do they think that he’s not able to evaluate talent on his own? It’s a little silly to read the criticism.

We are aiming high and haven’t signed what we wanted (even Kiffin is frustrated, based on a radio interview) but we aren’t done with the class yet. We may not get the 5 star right away but we will progress toward the goal. Think 2011.

by memphispete on Jul 28, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hahah

bring out the Flying Wedge!

"It's static noise. You can't hear anything. You go up and down the line, your wide receivers, your running backs, your tight ends, nobody can hear. Nobody."
- Cal QB Nate Longshore commenting on playing in Neyland Stadium

by jimvols on Jul 29, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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