Around the SB Nation: LSU's Death Valley the SEC's best home-field advantage
- And the Valley Shook crunches the numbers and the numbers say that, surprise, LSU has the biggest home-field advantage in the SEC over the past ten years. Red Cup Rebellion, though, is not so high on the Tigers, saying that last year's slump might portend a return to the pack.
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- The Rivalry, Esq. has several reasons why the Iowa Hawkeyes are the Big Ten's most mysterious and intriguing team.
- Team Speed Kills wonders what Florida can do for an encore when it's already won two national titles in three years. Why, win two in a row to make it three in four, of course, says Alligator Army.
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Tennessee and LSU
Looking at those talking points made me think of something rather interesting.
LSU’s quarterback is unproven (although, unlike Crompton, he had a good bowl). LSU’s SEC record last year was identical to UT’s. So what makes LSU a preseason top 10 pick, yet still gives any UT fan to predict a 9-3 season the insanity label? Their offensive line is probably better than ours, and their receivers are doubtless more experienced (how could they not be?), but I’d take the Tennessee defense in a heartbeat over an LSU unit that gave up 50 points twice last year and yielded more than 20 in 7 of 8 SEC games (including against Auburn and MSU). I think they’re still living on the glow from their National championship two years ago, coupled with high hopes after a good bowl game. I understand that they’re better than us at certain positions (mostly on offense), but I don’t see such a great disparity that LSU is expected to win 10 games when Tennessee is expected to win 7. Yeah, Lane Kiffin is new, but it isn’t like Les Miles is the coach of the century.
by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 10, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions
IIRC, they have an easier schedule.
They get Florida as always, but that’s about it from the East.
But, the radio guy who interviewed Joel from Chattanooga last week is on record as predicting them to lose to Washington.
by David Hooper on Aug 10, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Short answer: their terrible QB won't get near the ball and they have a running game.
The ranking is dependent on Jordan Jefferson continuing to build on his bowl game experience; LSU did an excellent job addressing their defensive playcalling issues from last season, so it pretty much comes down to QB play. Charles Scott is better than anyone we’ll throw out at RB this season (note the tense there), Brandon LaFell is better than anyone we’ll throw out at WR this season, and Richard Dickson is better than anyone we’ll throw out at TE this season. Chalking the defenses up as equal is close enough to fair that I won’t quibble with it too much (I think it’s a stretch at this point to say Tennessee’s D will be better than LSU’s), and having better players on offense ….well, really is a big deal.
Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs
by Chris Pendley on Aug 10, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
But Alabama lost to UL-Monroe the year before last year's 12-0 run through the regular season.
After which they promptly caught Big 10 disease and forgot that football continues on into December. ;-)
by David Hooper on Aug 10, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I'm not saying we can't be good this year.
I’m optimistic that we can be, actually. But losing to someone you really oughtn’t can’t help with the preseason pollsters. Just ask Michigan.
That bit about Wyoming is definitely true about why we have generally low preseason expectations (although I think it’s somewhat mitigated by the timing of the loss. We weren’t ranked in the top 5, like Michigan was). And if Chavis fixes their defense, then the top 10 prediction is a lot closer to being correct. I just have a hard time getting excited about a defense that allowed 30+ points in their last three games of the season, even if they did figure out how to stop the option in the bowl, and an offense without a proven quarterback. Don’t get me wrong, I think they’d beat us if we played head to head. But if I had to make a prediction right now, I’d expect them to finish 1 game ahead of us, not 3.
Also, hooper makes a good optimistic point. My fingers will be crossed.
by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 10, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Schedule
Same opponents:
Florida
Georgia
Vanderbilt
Alabama
Ole Miss
Auburn
LSU opponents:
Arkansas
Miss St.
Tennessee opponents:
South Carolina
Kentucky
Theirs is easier, but not a whole lot easier. Also, Georgia, Ole Miss, and Alabama are road games for them. They won’t be favored against Florida, and I’d be a bit surprised to see them as road favorites against top 15 teams. So they’ll be favored in 8 games. Since we have home games against the teams near us in ability (Auburn, USC), we’ll likely also be favored in 8 games. Yet they’ll be 10-2 and we’ll be 7-5. I just don’t see it.
by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 10, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions
Upside:
If things fall out as you suspect, they’ll underachieve and we’ll overachieve. That can only help UT bring in the recruits they want.
(always the optimist)
by David Hooper on Aug 10, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN.com
Picked Tennessee 9th in their SEC Power Rankings, behind, get this, Arkansas and Vanderbilt.
Now, I know Vandy went to a bowl game last year, but doesn’t the fact that we beat them last year during our down year and they were on their best year in a long time mean anything to the writers at ESPN? Honestly, it’s laughable the “analysis” ESPN sometimes gives: I think they just try to jive on the public opinion of teams. I mean, I know this doesn’t come as any surprise to us, given ESPN’s hating on Tennessee for as long as I can remember, but jeeze. C’mon Chris Low.
I was watching a clip of 1st & 10, about Tennessee’s signing of Bryce Brown. The guy, what’s his name, said something along the lines of “Bryce Brown is a perfect fit at Tennessee because both he and Lane Kiffin are thugs that won’t live up to the hype they have received.” Are you kidding me? He went on to talk about how Bryce Brown was overrated because he plays in a weak area.. And note, this was after the Army All-American game where Bryce Brown earned co-MVP honors, and earned the praise of just about every coach there with his skillset.
It’s funny, too, because I think the boys at PTI (who I have always liked. I think those guys and the crew from “Around the Horn” are the only good analysts that get put on TV consistently) are the only guys who like Lane Kiffin’s plan — they actually have gone on the record as loving it. It just astonishes me that Lane Kiffin can go in, get a top 10 recruiting class, assemble the staff that he did, and people still think that he’s a joke.
If he is a joke, I think he’s this one: the one that is quite deadly. I doubt Urban Meyer is laughing about how Lane ran his mouth and got Richardson and Brown and Oku, among the others that can be attributed to Lane signing.
Anyways, this turned into a big rant, all because I saw this article. Honestly? ESPN thinks Vanderbilt is better than Tennessee? Vanderbilt lost their best playmaker by far last year to the draft, I will remind people!
Fun quotes from that link of 1st & 10:
These guys are made for each other, because these are two way out there guys; two egomaniacs who probably — this is a probable — probably will never quite live up to the hype.
I’ve wondered about his competition in Wichita, Kansas — that’s a whole ’nother issue.
I’m on Al Davis’s side.
Not going to quote it, but he also bashed Brown for being “all over the place” with his commitment stuff, and while it certainly was a drama deal, it wasn’t the first — or last — time a kid has changed his mind about stuff on a dime.
Also, I want to know the “few coaches” the chick says backed off of Bryce Brown because of Butler. Because I haven’t heard of any coaches being like "Woah, woah, this kid is one of the most skilled running backs in the past few years, but he’s got a recruiting fella’ " And, if a coach did back off of Brown because of it, they deserve to be fired. The kid is good, and is a good guy by all reports.
Miami backed off of Brown.
They gave him a deadline to sign, but that’s understandable when Miami was the school he was initially commited to. If other schools backed off, it’s because they knew they wouldn’t get him or because they couldn’t take the Butler risk onboard at the moment.
But yeah, ESPN’s alright for broadcasting games when they don’t have guest celebrities monopolizing the camera, but most of their TV shows don’t tell you anything you don’t already know. (Not including breaking news; I’m referring to analysis here.)
by David Hooper on Aug 11, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, there's a difference
Between backing off because a guy’s delaying his decision, but honestly I think Miami had a better shot if they hadn’t done that.
I mean, Brown probably was all Miami, then Kiffin shows up and spins him a real good pitch, and all of a sudden he’s thinking. Then Miami says “No!! Stop thinking about it, decide now!!” If it were me I’d sign with the guy who gives me time to think it over.
by bobo_the_vol on Aug 11, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions

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