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Recruiting Special Edition: The State of the Roster

Now that the recruiting class is beginning to take form, it's time to take a look at the remaining needs for 2010.  Recruiting, at its very core, is a numbers game.  You have:

  • 85 total scholarships available
  • 25 scholarships creditable to any given year
  • 17 different positions on the field (based on my divisions, as you'll see in a bit) that need to be filled

The goal is to maximize the talent pool at each position without creating extreme roster imbalances.  (For example, if you have 5 offensive tackles due to graduate at the same time, you're probably going to be screwed when they leave.)

With that in mind, I have created a table that shows the breakdown of the current scholarshiped roster, including what we know of the 2010 class so far.  IMPORTANT POINT:  I use the terms Senior, Junior, etc. to refer to the number of years of eligibility remaining, so all seniors are in their final year of eligibility, juniors have 2 left, and so on.  Redshirting causes the numbers to skew downward, so you'll see a glut of freshmen that exceeds the tally of the 2009 recruiting class.  I did this because it's more important to know when you expect to lose players than when you actually gained them.

So, on to the table, and on to one of the more brilliant recruiting maneuvers I've seen.

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Before discussing the details, I should add that the first orange column shows the state of the roster today.  The second one shows what the roster would look like if all seniors were gone and the 2010 class - as it stands today - were here.  This way, you can see what remaining needs are left.  Oh, and Eric Berry is not subtracted; he's still a junior, so if you want to factor him as an early NFL draftee, subtract one more safety from the numbers.  Ok?  Ok.

Space Limitations

The 2010 class cannot make that number in the far lower right exceed 85.  As things currently stand, that caps us for a class of 21, assuming no scholarships are yanked.  Things that may change this include: Eric Berry (early departure frees one scholly), the graduation or other departure of a junior (e.g. Cunningham or Lincoln, especially with Palardy coming in), or Sabanizing the roster by unceremoniously pulling scholarships away from upperclassmen.  For now, we'll assume a class of 21 or 22.

Greatest Needs

Obviously, getting a quarterback is the biggest WANT.  With only 2 projected to be on the roster in '10 (Stephens and Lamaison), UT absolutely must get one.  UT will; there's no doubt about that.  So we can pencil one qb in there (possibly two, but certainly one).

After that, the bare minimum for the offense would be a center and another guard.  You like to go three-deep along the line and we're not quite there yet; getting those two would make things three-deep everywhere but center, which would still be two-deep.

Finally, the offense needs to be certain of its tight end.  I listed Delvin Jones as a tight end because that's the greatest apparent need on the roster that he can fill.  If that is indeed what happens, we're alright there.

On defense, we're actually pretty well set.  I'd like to see one more safety, assuming Berry leaves, and perhaps a cornerback, but the defense currently has more players projected for scholarships in 2010 (44) than in 2009 (42).

There is a glaring hole for a long snapper, which appears to be an open roster slot after this year.  We do have one walk-on long snapper on the roster - sophomore JR Carr; I don't know anything about him and can't really comment much on the position, but I'm not too worried about it.  With all of the safety rules in place for long snappers, they've really become specialists like kickers and punters.  Find a guy who can handle that one skill and the rest is of lesser importance.

Would you look at that!

Filling out this table - an exercise in unanticipated frustration - proved to be quite valuable, as a real gem of recruiting popped up.  Look carefully at the defensive tackle line, first scanning through the current roster numbers.  What's the problem? Right now, there are no sophomore (i.e. 3 years of eligibility) defensive tackles on the roster.  As it turns out, Orgeron is bringing in 2 JUCO defensive tackles - John Brown and Patrick Harris - who will fill that goose egg in the roster.  Once they're here, the defensive tackles will consist of 2 seniors, 2 juniors, 3 sophomores and 1 freshman, and if one of the 2009 freshmen redshirts, you'll see 2-2-2-2 across the board.  That is balance, and that is the best thing you can see.  They'll have depth and the ideal mix of experience and longevity at the very heart of the defensive line.  Magnifico!

But don't look at that...

Our problem is the interior of the offensive line, where the experience gap is worse than for the quarterbacks.  After this year, our most experienced guards will be sophomores.  (Any hotshot JUCO guards out there?)  We'll also be down to 1 center, unless you believe that Jose Jose will play center - and then we're still only at 2.  This is a roster mess that will not be easily fixed and will probably take 3 to 5 years to fully stabilize.  Fortunately, it sounds like Cregg is doing a terrific job with the linemen this fall and will have the young pups ready to go in 2010.  But that's one of those instabilities I mentioned earlier that you just hate to see - and we have it.  Part of that is from redshirting last year and part is from the '09 class, but having 4 of 6 guards lumped together with the same amount of remaining eligibility is not good.

Leaving Early is Good

This should make more sense now.  The instinct is to want the best players to stick around that extra year (think Peyton).  However, having more than Berry leave early should be regarded as great news, if it happens.  First, it means that they had a great season this year - something we can be pleased with.  Second, it would open up more space for scholarships in the 2010 class - again, something that is a benefit.  Lastly, it would build a reputation for Kiffin - that he can get players to The League, and get them there early.  That's a long-term, USC-like-dynasty-building good thing.  So cheer hard and loud, and hope that enough juniors play lights-out and get NFL offers they can't refuse.

Poll
Other than quarterback, what roster position is most important to address with the remaining space in the 2010 recruiting class?
Running Back
3 votes
Center
30 votes
Guard
36 votes
Offensive Tackle
76 votes
Cornerback
2 votes
Safety
3 votes
Linebacker
38 votes

188 votes | Poll has closed

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Sabanizing the roster by unceremoniously pulling scholarships away from upperclassmen/blockquote>

I’m pretty sure UT’s attrition # this off season was at least equal to if not greater than Alabama’s.

by Crimson Daddy on Aug 18, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Funny you should ask.

I made mention of it in May, and UT had 11 departures then. With Rozier, it’s 12.

A quick scan didn’t reveal all their names, but I can think of three without difficulty. BJ Coleman left of his own volition and not by any prompting. He was definitely not separated from his scholarship for the sake of a younger player. Rozier was a walk-on and did not occupy a scholarship. Lennon Creer also left of his own volition, and his scholarship was not in danger.

Four were dismissed outright, and none of those were for scholarship-saving reasons.

That leaves 5 that I can’t recall immediately. If I get time, I’ll dredge through the past and figure them out as well. But so far, I haven’t heard Kiffin mention the prospect of recovering scholarships from veteran players for his recruits. And if he does, I’ll be just as disappointed with it as I am with Saban. (I understand the whole ‘scholarship is good for 1 year’ deal, and I still feel this way.)

For the moment, though, I can assert that roster turnover due to a coaching change is inherently different than roster turnover because of willful recruiting beyond the 85 mark. We’ll have to wait until next year to see if Kiffin uses the Saban approach to roster ‘rightsizing’.

by David Hooper on Aug 18, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well struck, sir. His (implied) argument was ridiculous.

Since it’s Sabanizing in football, what should we call it at Kentcuky when Calipari does it to the whole team (almost)?

With the UT-KY GameDay thing on the site, I figure we can at least get 5 minutes of basketball in here before we go back to the preseason football frenzy…

by memphispete on Aug 18, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we could call it

Sabanizing. ;-)

In all fairness to CD, he’s usually pretty on-point with his arguments. It’s his job to keep up with the finer points of Alabama roster turnover (which I totally skipped over), and mine to understand the same for UT.

Though I still think that our turnover this last year bears no resemblance to Alabama’s over the last two years.

by David Hooper on Aug 18, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that was Franchioning

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Aug 18, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No wait, that's when the coach leaves everyone

Had that flipped. My bad.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Aug 18, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

And how many of the players that have left Alabama

had done so for scholarship saving reasons? We haven’t seen one quote from a player that has left Tuscaloosa that said that Saban pulled his scholarship. Not one. And one would think that if Saban was doing this to players that it would affect recruiting. Obviously, it hasn’t.

by Crimson Daddy on Aug 18, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Calipari "technically" didn't pull any of their scholarships, either.

So, it appears CD is hanging his hat on a technicality – which is helpful for a program that is always running afoul of the technicalities.

by memphispete on Aug 18, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

And at how many times has the 'countdown to 85' started for Alabama after NSD under Saban?

Ignoring his entry year, that’d be the last 2 NSDs, IIRC. The problem occurs when you have significantly more players currently holding scholarships plus incoming with LOIs than can fit underneath the 85 mark in the next fall. Even discounting early enrollees that count against the previous year’s 25, you shouldn’t have to look at trimming the scholarship list by 10ish.

I’m really not worried about the reasons given for the actual departures. It’s putting yourself in a position where you have to have departures (or revoked scholarships, if a player chooses to stay) just to make the 85 that is bothersome. And yes, like I mentioned earlier, I will feel exactly the same way if UT goes that route.

The occasional foray up to about 88 is understandable if you know you have high risk players in the recruiting class and on your roster. If it’s an exception rather than your normal rule, that’s one thing. It’s the scheduled attrition that’s a problem.

by David Hooper on Aug 18, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The one guy I give a break to is Nutt

We recently noted an ESPN story in which Nutt said that he KNEW 9 guys weren’t going to qualify but he steered them to Arkansas JC’s. This let the kids save face by signing with a D-1 school. That may be spin or he may really have the kids’ interests at heart.

by memphispete on Aug 18, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like we should turn this into a trivia game

Who got dismissed outright?

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Aug 18, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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