Talking Points: Moving On

by Hooper on Aug 21, 2009 7:00 AM EDT in Rocky Top Talking Points Comment 32 comments

Looking past The Issue, here are some of the other goings-on around Tennessee athletics.

Basketball Schedules are out. Valentine's Day will be extra sweet next year; either we'll wake up with a win against Kentucky, or we'll wake up in the sweet anticipation of their first vacated UT game in the near future.
Our Pea Eye. Pearl says that the schedule was built with an eye on the NCAA tournament.
Schedules are also out for the Lady Vols. Pat Summitt laughs at your feeble attempts to put together a strong schedule. Then demands that you try again until you get it perfect.
Rock! Rock! Rock! Pat Summitt is getting in the game for Bria Hartley to fill the scholarship vacancy from Cait McMahan's career-ending injuries. If Bria visits, I'm sure we can get the Rock painted for her.
No World Cup for Neyland Stadium. Honestly, I'm not surprised. The first time a player flopped, Summitt would have given them the death glare.
Sports Illustrated features the Vols. They place the Vols 3rd in the East - at 7-5. There is also this write-up on the team; when asked about joining his son on staff, Mone Kiffin said, "I promise you, if I thought my kid was a jerk, I wouldn't have come here."
That's Coach Tee Martin. Volnation interviews Martin about his upcoming year as quarterbacks coach for New Mexico.
Forecasting UCLA. Doc Saturday takes a look at the rebuilding of UCLA's running game. Methinks that having our defense practice against our running game will have them a bit overprepared.
Moment of truth. Nick Stephens thinks that this Saturday's scrimmage is his last big chance to win the starting slot. He's probably right.

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Who is Nick Stevens?

"Florida didnt win their first SEC title until 1991 and now they think they invented football."
-Ron Zook

by rustytanton on Aug 21, 2009 7:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

asdklfjaweofi en

dangit.

by Hooper on Aug 21, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fixed without strikeout. You all know what happened.

[sigh] I suck.

by Hooper on Aug 21, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's a Disease, Hooper.

Do you get mad at yourself when you have the flu? Stiff upper lip and all that, tut-tut.

by memphispete on Aug 21, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s all in good fun. I was laughing the whole time I replied.

by Hooper on Aug 21, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

From now on, calling him Nick "Stevens" Stephens

RIP Steve McNair (1973 - 2009) Retire #9!
Member of the Committee to Keep Keith Bulluck.
Eric Berry for Heisman!!

by Pride of the Southland on Aug 21, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nick "The Copper Fox" "Stevens Stephens" Stephens

"Florida didnt win their first SEC title until 1991 and now they think they invented football."
-Ron Zook

by rustytanton on Aug 21, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's the GINGER AVENGER to you, buckos.

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I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.

by Holly Anderson on Aug 21, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I blame you, by the way.

The ‘v’ comes from your nickname for Nick.

Voila.

(That’s my story, and I’m sticking by it.)

by Hooper on Aug 21, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

See, if they would just NAME HIM THE STARTER ALREADY,

his name would be all over the place and we could all learn it with ease! Selfish, Kiffin. Reeeeal selfish.

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I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.

by Holly Anderson on Aug 21, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If he's named the starter, I'll spell it Ste<3ens, just for you.

by Hooper on Aug 21, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

SOLD.

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I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.

by Holly Anderson on Aug 21, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

/shakes hands

by Hooper on Aug 21, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm

Valentine’s Day will be extra sweet next year; either we’ll wake up with a win against Kentucky, or we’ll wake up in the sweet anticipation of their first vacated UT game in the near future.

I was thinking the same thing for November, only in football with the wins that Kiffin will have to vacate……just saying….

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 21, 2009 8:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I wonder which is worse

mentioning a recruit’s name on the radio (secondary violation)

having someone cheat on the SAT so you can get a first round draft pick qualified for your school (with plausible deniability of using a cut-out/third-party so you are not implicated in the cheating personally).

At 6 secondary violations and holding… that phase is well passed us. Get a new line.

by memphispete on Aug 21, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So the NCAA clears Rose to play

And then a solid year later, they say “My bad” and that is Calipari’s fault?

And the line I used was using the same logic as the line in the story.

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 21, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll be the first to say I don't know enough about the Rose deal to judge Calipari.

But I’ll also say that it no longer matters. The wins are vacated, making 2 stops for Calipari that vacated after his departure. It’s entirely possible that Cal is doing nothing wrong, yet is attracting the kinds of players who are doing things wrong; that can be the source of vacations as well.

And I don’t mean to say that vacating is a guarantee by any means. What I mean is that it’s fair to call Calipari’s program a high risk for vacating, regardless of the actual source.

by Hooper on Aug 21, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

UK fans are the biggest apologetics I've seen around here.

That being said, in both instances, Calipari has not been implicated in the vacated wins, only the player.

Too bad, it has to hurt the whole team and sully Cal’s name, huh?

RIP Steve McNair (1973 - 2009) Retire #9!
Member of the Committee to Keep Keith Bulluck.
Eric Berry for Heisman!!

by Pride of the Southland on Aug 21, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I live in Memphis, so I'm used to the rationalizing for Calipari.

They don’t do that any more here. They have been burned by him completely.

No one endorses how slowly the NCAA moves. And, yes Coach Cal absolutely knew that there were fishy results in his score but looked the other way. When you only have 5 recruits in a class, the head coach knows the player’s grades, his teachers, his mom, his auntie….

Enjoy probation when it comes.

by memphispete on Aug 21, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We'll enjoy it together

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Aug 21, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's awfully good spirited of you -Both of us enjoying the UK probation together.

by memphispete on Aug 21, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oddly enough, this investigation has helped UT in that regard.

Not only is UT fully clear regarding Bryce Brown, they won’t have to worry about vacating wins on his behalf in the future. If the suspension holds, Bryce will sit out the first game or two and the wins will stand.

It’s the other teams that have Butler’s players from that tour that have to be worried. Those players haven’t been investigated yet, but it’s hard to imagine the NCAA not extending this. They received the same benefits that Bryce did.

So we’ll have to look for a different source for a vacated win. And right now, there are zero outstanding issues on the table to look at. So we can sit back and relax. :-D

by Hooper on Aug 21, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Those players haven’t been investigated yet, but it’s hard to imagine the NCAA not extending this.

One can only hope, in the sake of fairness and all, but i get the sick feeling it isnt going to happen, which is ridiculous. Trying to predict the NCAA’s moves and verdicts should be a Vegas stat line.

Also I’m really pissed that its looking like hes going to have to miss the Florida game. (I guess its just another excuse we can use for losing horribly – b-b-but our best player wasnt on the field!)

RIP Steve McNair (1973 - 2009) Retire #9!
Member of the Committee to Keep Keith Bulluck.
Eric Berry for Heisman!!

by Pride of the Southland on Aug 21, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The SI piece wasn't as much of a flame-job as it could have been

I think 7-5 is a bit too negative. 8-4 or better (assuming BB is back).

Also, SI has Olde Mississippi winning the SEC West at 7-1/11-1 over Bala-ama at 7-1/10-2. Olde Miss has never beaten LSU, Bama and Miss State in the same season. When they do, come back to me and I will give you the respect you’ve earned. Not until then. Clearly, SI has had several sips of the liquid refreshment omnipresent in The Grove (they drank the Kool-Aid, for the Bama fans).

With Bama’s 10-2 overall mark, SI is picking VT to beat the Tide in the opener, and that’s insane.

by memphispete on Aug 21, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I thought they treated it all pretty fair.

7-5 is a modest prediction, which I am willing to settle for. If we go higher, it will only serve to pump up the fan base and get support behind Kiffin.

Also, I feel like I’ve read that story a million times this summer.

Rules on writing a story on the Vols and Kiffin:

1. Mention hes a young coach, and his shortcomings at the Raiders/Al Davis fallout
2. Bring up his new model on coaching – more money for Asst. Coaches – Monte! Orgeron! Gran!
3. they’re great at recruiting!
4. Remind everyone hes brash and a loudmouth (p.s. what does Monte think?). Oh wait, he says he does it intentionally? Is he a genius or really just a loudmouth?
5. Quarterback problems abound. (But hey, they still have AA Eric Berry and a great D)
6. ?
7. Profit.

RIP Steve McNair (1973 - 2009) Retire #9!
Member of the Committee to Keep Keith Bulluck.
Eric Berry for Heisman!!

by Pride of the Southland on Aug 21, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Then rehash a million times.

RIP Steve McNair (1973 - 2009) Retire #9!
Member of the Committee to Keep Keith Bulluck.
Eric Berry for Heisman!!

by Pride of the Southland on Aug 21, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

WC

Shame we didn’t get the World Cup, although not shocking at all. Neyland really isn’t big enough unless they did some special work. Would’ve been great to get it though, it’s really the greatest single sporting event there is.

by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 21, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Its easily bigger than LP, which is still in the running

Its not that it wasn’t big enough, its not Metro enough. Location, location, location….

RIP Steve McNair (1973 - 2009) Retire #9!
Member of the Committee to Keep Keith Bulluck.
Eric Berry for Heisman!!

by Pride of the Southland on Aug 21, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Metro

and in one adjective, you just described the difference between football and soccer in its entirety.

Metro, as in full-body waxings and Van Heusen.

Thank you. I can use that.

by Hooper on Aug 21, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It isn't bigger

You’re thinking of the wrong sense of “big.” The stadium is plenty big enough, but the field isn’t. They would need to remove the closest sections of stands to fit a regulation soccer field into Neyland. LP has enough space already. The location probably has something to do with it, but the degree of work needed to make it playable is definitely a factor.

by Incipient_Senescence on Aug 21, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs