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Recruiting Tuesday: How did this weekend happen?

Tuesday is one of his favorite days.

Tuesday is one of his favorite days.

One question that has to be rolling through the minds of Vols fans right now is: if UT laid such an egg against UCLA this weekend, how did they manage to get commitments from three 4-5 star players in attendance?  With recruiting rules as they are, the real answer lies locked-down inside the recruiting machine of Tennessee, but the answer is a little more involved than simply saying that UT can use their help.  After all, if UT could use the services of these players so badly, so could Western Kentucky, or any other program that has obvious talent needs.  It's one thing to see a need, but it's another thing entirely to see that filling such a need is actually beneficial to your football career.

In the game against the UCLA Bruins, the Tennessee Volunteers did show some things of tremendous importance to the recruits.  For one, the defense projects to be elite for as long as Monte Kiffin is around.  UCLA may have some new blood on the offensive line, but that alone can't explain how the UT defense just mauled that offense.  The Bruins' first drive was their longest, at 51 yards, and included the scripted plays that they had undoubtedly practiced specifically to combat crowd noise and jitters.  That was UCLA's best shot.  They did manage one more 10-play drive in the third quarter, but were otherwise held to seven 3-and-out drives (including two that ended with field goal attempts on 4th down).  It was an active, swarming defense that choked the life out of a team who otherwise should have scored more than 19 points when given 4 turnovers.

Outside of the game itself, though, the official visits include face time with the coaches and the team.  The recruits saw a lot more on that weekend than we get to see, and they had time to see if the coaches and the young players on the team were the ones they wished to be around for three to five years.  Considering how eager they were to sign, as well as very positive indications from players like Giovanni Bernard, Cody Riggs, and Jawuan James (all three of whom would otherwise never consider UT), the recruiting machine - which includes the nonrecruiting side of the house - is leaving some very large impressions.  And we never get to see that side.

The big board is after the jump, along with a few more thoughts.

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Additions/Changes:

  • Tyler Bray:  Committed 9/8/09
  • Corey Miller:  Committed 9/13/09
  • Brandon Willis:  Committed 9/13/09
  • DeMarco Cobbs:  Committed 9/13/09

Removals:

  • Bo Wallace, Munchie Legeaux, Hutson Mason:  QB prospects.  A couple are still up, but it feels like Bray will be the only one this year.
  • Kyle Prater, WR:  He probably should have been off sooner, but I left him on until we knew about Cobbs for certain.

There are a lot of defensive line and wide receiver prospects who will probably disappear from the map over the next couple of weeks.  Since it's easier to remove than to add, I wanted to wait until I was certain that UT was done shopping for those positions.  The remaining positions of need appear to be: running back, where one would be good to have (Giovanni Bernard or Michael Dyer?); offensive line (James Stone, T.J. Leifheit, and Jawuan James are but a few still available); and tight end (Quinton Alton from Memphis may be a possibility here).

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Do you think we're actively pursuing many tailbacks?

Since we have the BBrown/Oku/Poole combo coming back, and Brown/Oku together for two full seasons after this? I know everybody wants to sign a quarterback every year, but we’re so crowded at RB I’d be amazed if they brought anybody of great significance in.

Good stuff as always.

by Will on Sep 15, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd be surprised

especially since we are filling up and in such need for O-Lineman.

by golfballs03 on Sep 15, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they'd like to have four.

Just like you’d like to have four quarterbacks (1 per year), but it’s more of an injury concern with RBs than simply guaranteeing you have one or two good options. Between O-line and RB, the priority is probably higher on O-line, but I could see them taking a RB if a talented enough guy is available.

They’re in a good position to be choosy this year, though.

by Hooper on Sep 15, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make that 5

forgot about Williams. I still think that, if somebody comparable to Brown and Oku’s level of play comes along, they might go ahead and get him. Bernard has already made mention that he’d be fine with starting by his junior year, so long as he has a chance to earn some playing time before then. If Brown and/or Oku leave early, that could be a real possibility.

by Hooper on Sep 15, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gio Bernad, Eduardo Clements, Michael Dyer, Lache Seastrunk

All names to watch. Lattimore is an outside possibility. he goes to school with Miller and Willis (Byrnes HS), and is coming for an official.

by rblakeh on Sep 15, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure we are

Hardesty will be leaving, Poole’s value is uncertain, as is Williams ability to bounce back from the injury. I wouldn’t be suprised if Poole transfers next season if they do find another one. In any case, I see Brown then Oku, then Poole/Williams as third so one more would probably work. I doubt it will be the top guy though given the talent we do have in Oku and Brown.

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 15, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it wont matter who they are

if we don’t have decent linemen to block for them.

by golfballs03 on Sep 15, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a given

I’m sure they’ll lock down a couple O-linemen soon. I hope….

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 15, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if UT laid such an egg against UCLA this weekend, how did they manage to get commitments from three 4-5 star players in attendance?

Pretty simple. They were in the bag already. Your staff asked them to commit to soften the blow of the loss against UCLA. Nothing wrong with that btw. Smart really. Like when Lance Thompson ran his mouth off about locking down Tennessee and the next day we get a commitment from Malone.

by Zoltar on Sep 15, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Word is that Malone may be looking around just a little bit.

But you can rest easy since Saban never loses recruits. Ya’ll didnt’ want Juwaun James anyway.

by rblakeh on Sep 15, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you have a source or just opining?
Your staff asked them to commit to soften the blow of the loss against UCLA.

by memphispete on Sep 15, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If there had been a source to that, it would have blown up all over the place.

Nobody’s giving Kiffin any slack at the moment. But more telling is that it just doesn’t make sense. To tell the players to wait on their commitment announcements until after the UCLA game to soften the blow implies an expectation of losing (which Kiffin very obviously didn’t have) and also tells your brand new recruit, “Hey, thanks for committing. When we get upset at home this next game, here’s how you can help me save face…”

It just doesn’t make sense. Instead, compare it to the reports we’re hearing from kids who haven’t committed (Wright and Leifheit, for example). They’re also saying how impressed they were, and they’re not commits. It just makes more sense if these commits are actually just commits, and not some grand conspiracy by Kiffin to look good.

by Hooper on Sep 15, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cut him some slack.

He’s a Bama fan, he expects duplicity and shenanigans from his head coach.

by danmarcel on Sep 15, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not saying that the plan was for them to commit after UCLA all along, so there was no expectation of losing. Kiffin probably just made some phone calls after the game and said, “hey, now would be a great time for you to commit if you can”. That’s all I’m saying.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Sep 15, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea...

Kiffin also called Kanye West and told him to interrupt Taylor Swift to get the national media talking about something else.

"The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it."

by Getoffmyvols on Sep 15, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yo Lane I’m really happy for you, and I’m gona let you finish, but Gene Chizik had one of the worst college head coaching debuts ever.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Sep 17, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah.

then they weren’t in the bag.

by Hooper on Sep 15, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Yeah, I’m sure that’s exactly how recruiting works.

by rblakeh on Sep 15, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So the answer would be - Opining

without any factual basis or connection to common sense.

Just wanted to be clear on that. Thanks.

by memphispete on Sep 16, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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