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Urban Meyer says we "made his life a little easier"...

 

I’d like to harp on something Dr. Saturday had in his post this morning.  First this from Urban Meyer…

“I remember looking out there and there's 10 minutes left in the game and there's no no-huddle (offense being run by UT), they are down by, I think it was 23-6 and the urgency ...” "... [W]e're not trying to impress the pollsters, we're trying to win the game. I think a lot of it had to do with the way they were playing. That made our life a little easier.''

Than this from the Doctor…

Star-divide

“Under most circumstances, that would be the obvious analysis. Where it concerns an offense quarterbacked by Jonathan Crompton, however, the connection between putting the ball in the air and winning becomes more tenuous: Crompton had already thrown one interception that led to a Gator field goal, and when the Vols did finally get aggressive -- running a deep stop-and-go on 4th-and-1 to keep a last-gasp drive alive -- it was picked off again. I wonder if Meyer considered that, sometimes, handing off is trying to win.”

I think the Doc hits the nail on the head in this. After the game a lot of rival message boards were saying that we were just trying to lose respectably, and cover the spread rather than trying to actually win the game. The problem with this assertion is that you have to realize you have to play with the hand you’re dealt. I think we were all in agreement that heading into this game our best chance to win would be to run the ball, play keep away and play tough defense. So suddenly when theres 10 minutes left in the game and we’re down by 17 our best chance to win is to have Jonathan Crompton run a pass happy no huddle offense and try to pick apart one of the best secondarys in the country? I think there is a far better chance that Montario Hardesty or Bryce Brown breaks free on a big run than Jonathan Crompton completes 6 consecutive passes in a 2 minute drill.

It’s like anything in life really. You recognize there are certain realities and you deal with them. Like it or not, there doesn’t appear to be a standout quarterback on this roster. Our coaching staff recognized that the best chance to move the ball would be to run it until we can run it anymore and then run it again. You can say they were just playing it safe but the fact is that with the backs we have and our defensive talent you can win football games this way.  It’s obviously not an identity we want to have long term but with the way this staff recruits and the attitude and discipline they instill in our players, I love where we are headed.

So Urban Meyer can call it whatever he wants and say we made it easy for him. But the bottom line is this Tennessee team in its 3rd game with a new staff took your Juggernaut to the wire, knocked around your golden boy for 60 minutes in your own backyard, and you were relieved to take a knee and call it a day.

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A track meet would have been suicide

We would have lost like 84-13 going that route.

Our gameplan was totally sound as far as I can see. Gerald Jones doesn’t step out on that TD pass and we’re only down a field goal in the fourth. Crompton doesn’t throw two INTs and maybe there might have been a chance to make that up too.

It is good counter-spin by Urban though.

"Florida didnt win their first SEC title until 1991 and now they think they invented football."
-Ron Zook

by rustytanton on Sep 21, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's his only counter-spin.

One thing I’ve noticed about Urban is that he’s very aware of the fickle attitudes of fans. He never lets any potentially negative moment go by without a rebuttal. It’s probably more an indictment of the nature of college football fandom than Urban, but it’s a very real effect.

But even with that, UT came out as good as it possibly could have without an actual win.

by Hooper on Sep 21, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and don't forget the flu epidemic that swept the team

Um, like 3 players have been listed. One never plays.

by memphispete on Sep 21, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a side/semi-related note.

Everybody cheer for whoever is playing Notre Dame.

I normally do anyway, but what are the odds Notre Dame has another subpar season, Charlie Weis gets fired, and Urban bails on Florida knowing his whole defense and Tebow are gone?

They would lose a lot of these recruits they have committed, many probably to Tennessee, and then have to find a new coach that we’ll get to rag on for awhile.

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 21, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure what which scenario I like more.

Urban leaves for Notre Dame and fails to live up to the hype because recruiting is much more difficult when you have to do it nationally and you have the academic standards that Notre Dame has or… Urban Meyer stays at Florida and has to deal with a more competitive SEC East without a once in a lifetime quarterback. It’d be nice to watch him go but I want at least one win against him at Florida before he does.

"The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it."

by Getoffmyvols on Sep 21, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

And there will definitely be a success dropoff once Tebow leaves. You can recruit all you want, but he changes the game substantially.

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 21, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

While I might cheer against ND out of principle,

I honestly don’t see Meyer leaving Florida. Honestly, I think there’s a better chance of the NFL picking him up than Notre Dame. He has gone pro-style in the past (their NC vs. OSU), and a place like Jacksonville would be a lot closer to where his daughters are going to college. I could see a Jax club trying to buoy their finances by bringing him and Tebow in and trying the NFL spread 2.0 (1.0 was Vick in Atlanta). It’d be good for marketing.

That’s not to say that I see that happening, either. Just that, out of unlikely scenarios, it’s probably more likely.

My hope is that Strong gets picked up as a head coach. For one, the guy flat-out deserves it. For two, UF’s defensive recruiting is very heavily buoyed by him at the moment, and could lose some ground if he departs.

by Hooper on Sep 21, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me neither

I agree with your scenario. I don’t think he bolts Florida for anything but an NFL job at this point.

"Florida didnt win their first SEC title until 1991 and now they think they invented football."
-Ron Zook

by rustytanton on Sep 21, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been cheering against Notre Dame

but that’s not because I want Urbie to go there. I just hate ND. They play a soft schedule and get way too much respect nationally, including among recruits.

(They may outscore too many people this year for you to get your wish)

by memphispete on Sep 21, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yep

"Florida didnt win their first SEC title until 1991 and now they think they invented football."
-Ron Zook

by rustytanton on Sep 21, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quite frankly, my favorite coaching candidate is a much more likely hire.

Brian Kelly already has the regional connections and the success. And I hope it doesn’t happen.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Graysnail on Sep 21, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Urban should have kept this to himself

I’m not a big fan of kiffykins, but these comments from Urbs seem…. petty

The game plan worked and putting the ball in Crompton’s hands to win at the end just wasn’t an option, so you do what your offense has been having success at and hope for a break on defense or special teams

Urban you got the number 1 ranked team in the nation and the number 1 qb in the nation, don’t criticize the game plan just cause your “greatest team in teh histories!!” couldn’t handle it like you thought they would

Terrence Cody drinks your milkshake!

by Wallacewade04 on Sep 21, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Urban, petty? I'm stunned.

he seems like such a warm, personable guy in interviews. i just can’t believe it. Urban, petty ?!

you called it!

by memphispete on Sep 21, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our "conservative, no-huddle offense"

Picked Urban’s well rested defense apart on the drive he meant. Urban Meyer is scared of this team, and for good reason. He said he had to motivate his team to be happy in the locker room after this game, which is something I can’t fathom being the number 1 team in the nation and beating one of the best defenses in the nation. Every win counts, but you know the Florida fans and players wanted to embarrass Lane Kiffin for his trashing of Urban Meyer. Instead, Eric Berry was the player of the game (though Tim Tebow did, as usual, show everyone why he’s so good. He really is a great player) and Montario Hardesty ran for 4 shades under 100 yards, against a defense that knew that the running game was coming. Not only that, but as someone mentioned in an article I read, Tennessee was daring Florida to run the ball, and while they did manage a very nice 4.7 ypc, a lot of that came in the 3rd quarter, which won the game for the Gators. There were a lot of times when Tennessee busted up plays in the backfield, and Florida never threw the ball deep. And let’s be honest, they wanted to. All those times we saw Tim Tebow roll out, hold the ball looking downfield? He wasn’t trying to look off the Defensive End running down his throat or anything, he was saying “Percy, percy, I need you!”

CBS had the play of the game nailed on the head. If Tebow doesn’t escape the Tennessee pressure on that 3rd and 4ish in the 3rd quarter, Tennessee might very well have had this game a whole lot closer than it was. Alligator Army was really impressed with Lane and Monte, too.

Finally, I’m sick of Florida fans acting like their injuries are what made the difference in this game. They act like they are the only ones with injuries. Our best offensive lineman, Josh McNeil, probably won’t play football again and yet our line opened up holes. How much better would we have been with him? I still don’t think Gerald Jones or Denarius Moore are at 100%, and Austin Rodgers is out for the season.

Finally Finally, Eric Berry & co. won “The Hit.” The defender stopped the offensive player from going forwards, that’s the Defense’s job. Though, Tebow did give a nice shot of his own in. Eric Berry looked much better in this game that I thought he did against UCLA.

I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.

by bobo_the_vol on Sep 21, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The HIT was a Tebow win.

Berry fell backwards, Tebow (with a full head of steam, and 10-15 lbs more weight) fell forward. Great collision by two irresistable forces. Face it they are both animals. No one, on either team, was giving quarter that game.

by 1974gator on Sep 21, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I said elsewhere to this same comment

Tebow fell straight down on his face. No embarrassment.

by memphispete on Sep 21, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I call it a stalemate

Because Tebow was able to play the next down ;-) Tebow has about 50 pounds on Tebow, though :-P They are both animals. Definately.

I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.

by bobo_the_vol on Sep 21, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bobo, with comments like that you need to establish what timeline Tebow #1 is on compared to Tebow #2.

I mean, I suppose he’d have to add 50 pounds to play as a TE in the NFL, but you should probably spell that out.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Graysnail on Sep 21, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

That was a Berry win. Berry is standing still or moving very slightly forward at best. Tebow has a full head of steam and 30 pounds on Berry. Tebow falls forward a half yard, Berry goes back a half yard. Berry wins.

Also, Florida won the game vs. Tennessee, but in the Tebow vs. Berry matchup, Berry won in a landslide. Even Gary Danielson put his man crush on Tebow aside and called Berry the best on the field.

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 21, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Tennessee D

Showed up. Your QB play has killed you, the rest may lack good depth, but ther eis quite a nice frame to hang more on.

That D and a good ground game should put you in a bowl this year.

Good luck on the rest of your season.

MeanBobMean

by MeanBobMean on Sep 21, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the props!

But .. how in heaven’s name did you find us here?

I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.

by bobo_the_vol on Sep 21, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playing it safe for Crompton, not Vegas

I think Kiffin was exponentially less worried about his team looking bad in shootout mode than he was the damage that would’ve done to Crompton. If he turned him loose and #8 threw several interceptions or even consecutive incompletions, we’d be talking about Nick Stephens on this Monday afternoon instead of the entire effort of the team. The embarrassment he was trying to prevent was Crompton’s, not Tennessee’s.

And really, the gameplan did work – the plays that turned the game had little or nothing to do with Crompton. The opening kickoff, the inability to score touchdowns on our first two drives, and the aforementioned 3rd down Tebow run, if they swing the other way, lead to a Tennessee victory. While we might’ve had better odds at winning with a better quarterback, we didn’t lose just because of Jonathan Crompton.

by Will on Sep 21, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would agree with that.

Particularly the bit about the missed touchdown opportunities. On the same token, if Kiffin could have used Crompton, that third quarter might not have been so barren.

All eyes on Crompton this weekend. Another 2-int performance will make things interesting heading into the beef of the conference schedule.

by Hooper on Sep 21, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you had only thrown the ball more

wshelton2 is right on.
How do you think UF normally runs up the score? In the recent past we have had the best ballhawks and defensive opportunists in the SEC. Ordinarily, our opponents get 10+ points down, try to open it up and we take advantage. Everything snowballs when our defense starts playing loose. Remember, we were 2nd in the country last year (OK #1) in turnover margin. Same D, two deep.
Sorry to say Crompton is a dog and you were smart to keep him on a short leash.

by 1974gator on Sep 21, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry.
In the recent past we have had the best ballhawks and defensive opportunists in the SEC.

That honor belongs to Eric Berry.

"The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it."

by Getoffmyvols on Sep 21, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Berry is good but.....

I’m speaking about our whole D LB and backfield group.

by 1974gator on Sep 22, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We agree on the part about strategy

Ut’s best opportunity to win? Exactly what Lane Kiffin dialed up. Great coaching.

by memphispete on Sep 21, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I was worried about at halftime

since you guys weren’t comfortable with UGA and LSU last year after thirty minutes, and then avalanched them in the second half. Same thing with us in 2007. Kiffin knew it as well, and even without established downfield threats, teams that fall behind against Florida and try that strategy to catch back up may find themselves in equally huge holes by the end.

by Will on Sep 21, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Florida had every oppurtunity to "blow us out" in the 3rd quarter.

We had like, 9 yards.

It is amusing to me that Urban Meyer admits that the UT team and coaching staff dictated the pace and style of the game on Saturday, and UF fans take this as a positive.

They had ample opportunities to stop us. They knew we would run the ball. So, stop us, and you can have your blow out. Why did UF kick so many field goals? Just trying to be nice?

Herban the Benevolent, I guess.

by rblakeh on Sep 21, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

I think Meyer was dead-on.

Where your analysis falls off the tracks is that Meyer was referencing the lack of urgency, not the the fact that Crompton wasn’t passing. If the Vols wanted to win, they could run the ball out of bounds, hurried up to the line, etc. and found themselves in a situation where they had the ball back with 5-6 minutes to go instead of 2-3. They didn’t bother to do that. That’s called playing not to win, but rather play to keep it close. Moral victory, etc.

I think it’s actually a rather scathing indictment of Kiffin, made in a very classy and subtle way by our coach. No coach in the SEC wants to be known as content to lose, which Kiffin was on this day. Instead of talking about singing fight songs, Meyer basically called Kiffin a loser based on rather incontrovertible evidence. Sorry, but that’s the truth.

Orange and Blue Hue: The World through GATOR-colored Glasses -- http://www.orangeandbluehue.com

by Gatorpilot on Sep 21, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I actually think your three words are far more effective than my 100

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 21, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

Yeah. That ranks with hooper’s:

It was a tackle.

on the Tebow/Berry hit thread.

Rocky Top Talk

by Joel on Sep 21, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Far from it actually.

Look up the definition of bitterness and you’ll see that ^.

All week you Florida fans were shouting you were gonna beat us by 50 because Lane Kiffin can’t coach and Jonathan Crompton can’t throw the ball. One of these is right. All of a sudden Crompton is a world beater who had Urban Creyer scared he was gonna lose if Kiffin would just unleash the beast on the pitiful Florida secondary? Really? That’s what you believe? It sure sounds like it.

Let me point something else out to you. Bryce Brown got benched in the first game of the season for running out of bounds. Tennessee HB’s don’t do that and won’t do it. The fact is, Tennessee got the ball with 10 minutes left and went 70 yards on the ground for the first TD on Florida’s defense of the season in less than two minutes. Less than two minutes!! Why pass when we can run all the way down the field? As soon as we did after your 3 and out we went 4 and a pick.

And finally, the biggest fallacy in your argument, the furthest thing from:


Sorry, but that’s the truth.

is calling anything Urban said after this game “classy”. Saying another team was playing not to lose is actually very classless. Blaming the fact you didn’t beat us by 50 on one starter and 2 backups having a fever is classless.

Enjoy it while you can idiot, because you know it’s coming to an end soon and that’s why you’re here saying stuff like that ^.

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 21, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Now, VolBrian

Easy. GatorPilot’s a friend.

A friend who happens to be very wrong here ;-), but he’s not an idiot. He’s just confused. It’s all those days in the hot sun.

And just to make sure we’re all cool, here’s another:

;-)

Rocky Top Talk

by Joel on Sep 21, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And no . . .

. . . I have no idea why I have so many friends who are Florida fans. It’s a character flaw.

Rocky Top Talk

by Joel on Sep 21, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

I’ll cut him slack for that then. If he’s a friend I guess he can’t be an idiot, but maybe it was just an idiotic incorrect thing to say.

And I’m cool with one more…..

;-)

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 21, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's possible we were trying to give our defense a bit of a rest too.

Considering they were on the field the entire third quarter.

It’s the textbook strategy for winning as an underdog. You bleed the clock, keep it close, and then go for the win at the end of the game.

That’s what we did, and it almost worked. As it happens, UF got the win. Be happy with it.

by rblakeh on Sep 22, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

damn i couldnt have said that better myself…

what is silly about being down 17 points and not trying to slow the clock not running it down?

by Hook85 on Sep 22, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scored in two minutes 23-13. Stopped you. Had the ball with 6 min left.

Kiffin’s strategy almost worked, despite a deficient QB/WR package.

by memphispete on Sep 23, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually it was a 3 min drive the first score

and that was at mid feild, the second drive was 4 minutes and it only got you 30 yards. I dont think it almost worked. You were still at the 50 with only two minutes left.

by Hook85 on Sep 25, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 or 3 min - what ever

Your invalid criticism is that we shouldn’t have been running the ball down 23-6 with 9 minutes (roughly, math major) b/c you claim we should have thrown the ball all over the lot. The reality is we drove the ball down the field and scored. And, a couple of the runs were very close to being breakaways (not homer observations, but also by the sportscasters).

The passing game worked worse than the running game. We did what we had to do so that we had the best chance to win without a real passing game.

If you don’t believe it, go back to your gator site and talk to people who agree with you.

by memphispete on Sep 25, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2min is a huge diff between 3 min and 40 seconds

I never claimed throwing the ball all over the lot was a better idea, I am saying spending almost 8 minutes on two drives down 17 points is not a very good way to win a game. If your team could some how run the ball and nto run the clock out then yea I guess you would be right.

If you dont believe and dont want me to continue stop answering back to my comments.

by Hook85 on Sep 25, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We never said it was a good way to win football games.

Only that it was the only one open to us. Read for comprehension, please.

by danmarcel on Sep 26, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

Its funny how much tenn will stick by thier coaches side, so much they make claims that they dont have a quarterback that will be able to drive down the field and complete a few passed to score a TD. Please dont go throwing the words around that youll see us next year if you believe that. becuase if your QB is that bad, Tenn will suck for a long time, becuase a freshmen wont come in and do much better, not any of the freshmen i see on your recruiting list that is.

by Hook85 on Sep 26, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh ...

when i said Tenn fans feel they dont have a QB who can drive the ball down the field, I mean they think 100% that he couldnt as if there was no CHANCE IN HELL. like some fan could come out there and do his job, hand the ball off, throw a few screens.

by Hook85 on Sep 26, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

OK. Have it your way, even if it’s the loony version.

The Gators are 5-0 against Tennessee with Meyer at the helm and we’re pretty happy at 3-0 while you’re at 1-2. We’ll be looking forward to the game in Neyland next year. John Brantley is a very good QB. As for a Tennessee fan complaining about our head coach’s lack of class — who never responded publicly to Kiffin’s juvenile barbs — well, I’ll just to have to laugh quietly in the night about that.

Orange and Blue Hue: The World through GATOR-colored Glasses -- http://www.orangeandbluehue.com

by Gatorpilot on Sep 21, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Then we agree to disagree apparently.

night

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 21, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't throw stones in a glass house.

Meyer is the antithesis of classy. Florida was shown as being flawed and it was against a supposedly out-classed team. A truly good team let’s their play do the talking, but all Urban can do is make excuses.

It can only be a good sign for the Tennessee program that Florida is so worried about them. But it is pathetic that such “dominant” team is so whiney – and so are their fans. What a bunch of little girls.

by golfballs03 on Sep 22, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Whatever

No one will remember the HIT in 5 years but they will remember that we won. See you in K’ville.

by 1974gator on Sep 22, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Whatever

Official MCM Hater!

Retire #9!

by gramsey712 on Sep 22, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHATEVER!

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 22, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We don't need it to be remembered now

We need it to be remembered 5-10 months for recruits. Which, you can bet, it will be.

I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.

by bobo_the_vol on Sep 22, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

remembered in 5 years, I mean

Freakin’ Time. Confuzling me.

I got punk'd by UT's Athletic Department.

by bobo_the_vol on Sep 22, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it will be remembered

Fans have a way of doing that. I’m a lifelong Broncos fan, and I still remember the ‘Hit Heard ’Round the World’, even though I don’t remember who won the game. (Steve Atwater and Christian Akoye – full head-on with no direction changes involved). You’ll remember the hit, too, because Tebow also did a really good job on it.

The announcers were right on this one. They talked about it being that rare event of the SEC’s returning OPOY and DPOY meeting up, but more accurately, it was the head-to-head of the two most talked-about players in the SEC (and, on their respective sides of the ball, the entire NCAA). Both players have long since earned their reputations, and the collision live up to it. It’ll be remembered.

by Hooper on Sep 22, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kiffin, Kiffin's mouth, and my CFN comments from Saturday

Vol fans:

I’m just popping in here to tell you that in my Thursday column at College Football News dot com, I will elaborate on the admittedly off-the-cuff remarks I made on Mr. Kiffin in a Saturday accounting of the Florida game. I don’t have any beef or agenda with UT football. This is about Lane Kiffin in a very specific context.

I’m sure I’ll meet with honest and sincere disagreements, but you deserve an explanation, and you’ll get it on Thursday at cfn.scout.com

PS—All of my feature columns include my e-mail address and my Twitter URL, so I’m happy to engage you at greater length in either of those forums. I never hide from my public statements, and I value accountability.

Thanks!

Sincerely,
Matt Zemek
CFN

by Matt Zemek on Sep 22, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For everybody's reference:

This article.

Thanks for popping by, Matt. I’ll be interested to read it.

by Hooper on Sep 22, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope you have something real to redeem yourself with Matt.

Because, and I’m sorry Hoop, Joel, and Will, but that blurb about Kiffin was the worst, most juvenile, immature, crappy excuse for journalism I’ve seen this side of “Congrats, You just left the yard”.

You must have a vendetta against Kiffin, which is fine, but after reading those comments I think we all would prefer you just kept it to yourself.

None of that even makes sense. He ran on 3rd and 19 and got the first down. He hasn’t strutted one bit since that game. He said he was trying to win, and anybody that knows anything at all about Tennessee football knows Crompton wasn’t the answer.

You absolutely have a beef with UT football unless you plan on posting an apology. Anything else is probably just more nonsensical drivel.

If you need eveidence of how Kiffin is turning things around, I’ll be happy to oblige you, but, judging by your

off-the-cuff remarks
all you want to do is take shots at him, so just do us a favor and not link it here.

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 22, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yeah

i posted that on fanshots and i’m not sure anyone noticed it, otherwise there probably would have been some comments. i thought it was a joke.

by golfballs03 on Sep 22, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two things

Matt, like hooper, I’ll be interested in hearing what you have to say. And I welcome you to RTT.

VolBrian — I hear you, man. I really appreciate your passionate defense of the program and this site. You are always first to take on the trash talkers and to engage them until the end, and we sincerely appreciate that. We have found over the years, though, that trolls and flamers always show up before and after big games against rivals, and to be honest it really sucks that we have to spend a great deal of time after losses warning, banning, and hiding idiotic stuff.

But I have to say that as a general rule the fans of other teams that come here (with some notable exceptions - you know who they are ;) — are much, much more respectful in tone than the ones that visit other sites, and I think that’s largely because the favor is returned. So I think we’ll at least wait to hear what he has to say. But keep doing what you’re doing, protecting the program and the site because we really appreciate it.

Rocky Top Talk

by Joel on Sep 22, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll give him a shot as well

But, from the stuff I read on that link, I don’t expect too much. Either way, I’ll respond as I feel it deserves without namecalling or petty attacks.

Why oh why can’t they all be like the UCLA fans?? I guess it’s easier when they beat us, but not for Urban and the Lizard bunch apparently….

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 22, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

How true.

And I’m not sure I expect much, either, but we’ll see.

Rocky Top Talk

by Joel on Sep 22, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just realized something...

I didn’t mean for my comments above or below to be interpreted as a request for more moderation by you guys. Basically, I was just saying I’m done being congenial (if I ever was to start) to people who come on here and flame or post ignorant things about Tennessee and/or RTT.

As far as I’m concerned, y’all take care of the “family-friendly” violations, and memphispete and I will handle the rest.

;-)

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 22, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am a changed man!

Great Game Hokies! What a battle!

by The Voice of Reason on Sep 23, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for stopping by

I read that on Saturday and was generally against it, as you might imagine. But I like CFN and think it’s a great resource, and I’m generally for giving people the benefit of the doubt. Interested to see what else you have to say and appreciate the accountability.

by Will on Sep 22, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The first two comments by your colleagues were thoughtful analyses

By comparison, you looked like an amateur journalism student who was well on his way to an F.

We’ll change your grade to an Incomplete. Hope the revised project is better than the first.

by memphispete on Sep 23, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joel, Will, and Hooper

I’m sorry guys, but I’ve run out of patience for ignorance on this site. I know people that come around sometimes are friends of yours or friends of RTT somehow, but I for one am tired of listening to comments like those of Gatorpilot and Matt above, even if Matt’s comments were just linked here.

I don’t have any problem with their sites, what they say on their sites, or what is said about Kiffin and UT sports on other team’s sites and blogs, that’s their right and perogative. I am not going to stand by and let it happen here. I don’t go to other sites to troll and flame, and I expect the same favor in return.

I won’t be namecalling anymore like above, but I’m done being nice about it.

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 22, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That crap from Mr Matt was some very inventive spamming.

I am sure the 4 people who actually read that before hoop linked it here don’t really give a screaming eagle crap what he had to say anyway.

Official MCM Hater!

Retire #9!

by gramsey712 on Sep 22, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Jackson

Don’t wanna forget him…..

Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!

by VolBrian on Sep 22, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jackson keeps us in line.

Nothing like a mule kick to the head to get the creative juices hemorrhaging flowing!

by Hooper on Sep 22, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CFN

I actually read the site quite often. As a staff, they do pretty good, and have good breakdowns of all Division 1 games each week. I think their stuff is normally fair and free from most of the mainstream media spin. But I’ve never before read garbage like that on their site. Whatever credibility Zemek had as a writer is now shot.

I’m really surprised to see him pop up on this site! Has he commented here before? Maybe he feels like an idiot for not even providing any evidence or an excuse for his blather – or what he calls “instant analysis.” He’s probably trying to maintain what credibility he has by insisting people withhold judgement until reading the rest of his “analysis.” It better be good.

by golfballs03 on Sep 22, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zemek is a douche.

I’ve though so ever since he called Shula’s firing “one of the most disgusting and morally repugnant coach firings in recent college football memory”. The guy is a joke. He makes uninformed, inflammatory remarks to stir the pot for his BS website, which by the way is shady. You’ll get these pop-up windows that get through blockers and don’t close properly. God knows what kind of malware you can get from slumming around there.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Oct 12, 2009 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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