Open Letter To Florida Fans
We lost, you won. Let's all go along with our business.
Wait, what's that? Lane Kiffin won't let you? He's running his mouth again? It hurts your feelings? Your opinion of the Tennessee football program and it's fans is dropping? Ok, well let's handle it one issue at a time.
1. Moral Victories -
Stop buying into the media hype and let's all call it what it really was for Tennessee. Not a moral victory, but a recruiting victory. That's right. That's the reason Tennessee fans are somewhat satisfied with the outcome. Aside from the fact old Urbie didn't get his prophesized revenge. This was a huge recruiting victory for Tennessee. It will never come out, but I do believe we're all wise enough in the ways of recruiting to know that the Florida staff has been telling recruits for months that Tennessee is a renegade program that they planning on beating by 50 at the first opportunity. "Now you don't want go play for a coach who is all talk but looks like WKU in Ben Hill Griffin do you?" Well that didn't pan out and the momentum shifts quickly to UT's staff with "yeah we lost, but look how many true freshmen had a huge impact in that game". Cody Riggs and Jeff Luc were by all accounts impressed.
1a. Moral Victories Part Deux
Ok, fine, call it a moral victory if you wish, It's the last one you'll be able to do that with. Next season, we expect the Vols to win in Knoxville, and if they don't there will be a much more negative reaction. Believe that.
2. Tennessee Played To Keep It Close
First, if anything Lane Kiffin did prior to this game was lacking class, it pales in comparison to one coach telling the media that another coach/program was not playing to win a game. Even if said coach believes beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's true, you just don't say things like that in public. Urbie should know better, and you all should have known there would a response of some kind. As one of your people said earlier: Sorry, but that's the truth.
I'll explain it one more time for you guys before you start defending Urbie again. Prior to this game, it was well known, and you Florida fans screamed from the rafters, that Jonathon Crompton could not throw the ball downfield. This was why you would beat us by 50 remember? Did you already forget? You knew our defense was gonna show up, but you were proclaiming your defense would outscore our offense. Well, I guess Lane decided not to play along and chose to run the ball, quite successfully, instead. And the 4th quarter is no evidence otherwise. Again: Sorry, but that's the truth. We got the ball with 10 minutes left off your fumble and went 70 yards in less than two minutes with nothing but runs and screen passes. We stopped you and got the ball again with 6 minutes to go.
So, you just scored in 2 minutes with all runs. You have 6 minutes and the ball down by ten. What do you do? Do you unleash the beast that Urbie was so afraid of in Jonathon Crompton? Or do you try and smash the ball downfield in two minutes again, onsides kick, and try to get in FG position? Since you have a QB with a terrible psyche and chemistry with his WR's, a QB who has thrown 7 INT's already (one was called back on a penalty) in two and 3/4's games, I think the answer is obvious. Moreso when he did throw downfield and it was promptly picked off.
3. But, Lane Kiffin started to talk smack again right after the game by bragging and talking about the "blueprint"!!
Not exactly, and allow me to paraphrase his comment. Not comments, but comment:
"Monte found a blueprint [not the blueprint] to beat them defensively, we just couldn't get it done on offense today"
Again, a paraphrase, but an relatively accurate one. If you have problems with him making that statement, you've got some real security issues for a fan of such a currently successful program.
4. Lane Kiffin and Tennessee are not in my head or Urbie's head whatsoever.
Then why are you here reading this now? Why does Urbie respond to anything Tennessee does or says? I mean we're Vandy right? We're South Carolina now. We don't threaten you guys. What's the big deal?
The fact that Urbie has to justify his team winning by 10 points is proof enough that Lane Kiffin has crawled in his, and in turn your, head. You've never gone to a team's blog and talked smack when they have a 6-9 cumulative record over the last two seasons have you? Why are you so scared of what we're doing? Enjoy your championships and let the cellar dwellers be, right?
5. Lane Kiffin is already a bust at head coach and a step back from Fulmer
Ask yourself. Go ahead you know you want to. When was the last time a Tennessee player was arrested or charged with a crime? I mean, the championship for such is named in honor of Tennessee right? The Fulmer Cup? That's right, zero. No arrests, no suspensions for crime or academics, nothing.
When was the last time you saw the Tennessee fan base with this much swagger? 1998? For about 9 months? You think we're cocky now, just wait until we have the players and wins to back it up. We might turn into you. Nevermind, I don't think we could get that bad.
The most telling proof though? How badly do you think Florida would have beat Tennessee this season with the Papa still at the helm. Sorry CPF, but Kiffin has the same talent that the Papa had last season, but only lost by 10. CPF lost 89-26 over the last two seasons and likely would have given up 50 again.
By all accounts, legal, penalty-wise, assignments, and otherwise, Tennessee is by far a more disciplined team and program than it has been the last decade.
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I could go on and on with this, but the basic purpose is to compile all my comment section responses over the last few days into one post for ease of viewing. I don't know, maybe I'll just link this as a response from now on.
And don't worry, I'll update it to address anything you bring up I may have missed.
Until next year.............
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Good job, VolBrian
Representing the Chatt area Vol fan base. Keep it up!
Perception is Reality
After this game recruits are perceiving Tennessee as a team that is for real and on the rise. Once they get on campus and into the system, that will actually be the case.
Great summary post btw.
"The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it."
Florida
Dont worry – We’ll get ’em for you on Saturday!! ;)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Sep 23, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions
That would be great!
As long as you forget how you did it by the end of the season….
;-)
Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!
Meyer playing the same game as Kiffin?
You know, Ive heard it said by many people, here and elsewhere, that Kiffin made his comments to take pressure off of the players this weekend. It worked. If anything all the talk by ESPN probably served as extra motivation.
I tend to believe, based on his play calling over the last few years, that Meyer just doesn’t have any class. But in this situation, is he using his return volley of cheap shots at Kiffin to disguise the fact that the UF offense only passed for 115 yards against us, and that after playing what should have been the easiest 3 game stretch on their schedule, Tim Tebow has compiled 42% of the Gators total yards, but is still on pace for the worst season of his career as a starter? Is Meyer just trying to hide the fact that UF is clearly not the best team in the nation again this year? I mean last year they hung 50 on anybody who said anything about Tebow or Meyer. I don’t think they had the balance to do that this year even if they wanted to, which history says they very badly did.
I mean honestly, nobody mainstream seems to be talking about WHY the beatdown of the century never materialized. It seems like Meyer started talking as soon as the game was over and the story went from “UF outlasts UT” to ’Meyer’s life made easier…" and we all know what comes next.
Easiest 3 game stretch
Based on last year results. I didn’t think the game would be this competitive, but I knew our D was one of the best.
by Prometheus1185 on Sep 23, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting concept
I haven’t heard it put that way yet, and I’m not sure Meyer is savvy enough to pull off that kind of subterfuge, but either way, it works in Tennessee’s favor.
If this isn’t the case, then he still comes off as a huge whiner again.
If what you suggest is the case, then not only is he imitating his nemesis, he’s also aware that his team may be slipping.
Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!
Interesting.
I don’t know if he was necessarily thinking about hiding deficiencies of his team via smoke screen, but I do know that he feels a lot of pressure for him and his team to be in the GOAT discussion this year. I think all of his references to pressure is very real, and it has to be something of a concern.
Setting his public persona outside, the guy is obviously a very good coach. I do think, however, that he finds the microscope to be a burden, whereas Kiffin seems to thrive under the lens. (Just a personality difference.)
Yep
Hence the apt comparison between Kiffin and Spurrier. No, Kiffin hasn’t won in the SEC yet, but they both seem to thrive in the spotlight.
Fulmer never seemed to be comfortable with it and Meyer does not either. Hmm…….
Tennessee WILL beat Georgia on the way to 9+ wins in '09!!!
Eric Berry For Heisman!!!
Yeah
Good points.
I do think that when he doesn’t win Spurrier just implodes whereas guys like Meyer, Saban, etc., may get pissed but also go straight to film room and say “how to improve”.
Spurrier always struck me as one of those guys that no matter what happened, he wasn’t wrong, you know?
Tell you what, if Kiffin’s strategy really was to get the focus on him and de-pressure his guys, that was smart as hell. Good for him. I am betting his kids love him already, and that team unity goe sa long way to making a decent team quite good.
Noticed your Cowboys held their own for a half against Texas Hooper.
by MeanBobMean on Sep 24, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Urbie was covering his behind - disappointing loss of face on national TV
Without Tebow, the Gators are in real trouble. Kiffin and his staff outcoached Urbie – and it was as clear as can be.
I doubt Urbie is that crafty. But I agree with you that he lacks class. If he could have won by 50, then he would have – and he would have relished every point. He failed in a big way to meet expectation, so out comes the pettiness that is Urban Meyer.
With all due respect, some of this is ridiculous
“First, if anything Lane Kiffin did prior to this game was lacking class, it pales in comparison to one coach telling the media that another coach/program was not playing to win a game”
Not going to defend Meyer for what he said, but saying that accusing someone of not trying to win a game is worse than accusing someone of CHEATING is asinine.
One was humorous for the sake of boosters (i.e. not a serious accusation)
and the other represented Meyer’s opinion in a formal interview setting (i.e. a serious accusation).
You are right that they are not the same, but Meyer’s was worse. ;)
by memphispete on Sep 25, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
What is great about not just Tennessee fans but most college football fans in general is that if Lane Kiffin had been asked about his conservative playcalling in the 4th quarter up by 10, and he answered that he called it the way he did in response to his feeling that “Florida didn’t look like they were trying to win the game,” and on the other side Urban Meyer had blatantly accused Lane Kiffin of cheating in a speech (you have plenty of time to think before you speak when giving speeches), we know which one would be worse to everyone on this board.
We're backing Kiffin no matter what he says
Surely you could have figured that out by now.
Official MCM Hater!
Retire #9!
Kiffin's comments appeared to me to be completely off the cuff.
Having given a bunch of speeches myself, Kiffin was clearly doing that. A booster speech that’s supposed to be closed to the media is different from a news conference.
Meyer crossed the line as well in his interviews. With all of his experience in dealing with the press and as uptight/reserved as Urbie is, you can’t really believe Urbie gave a spontaneous comment that failed to reflect his true opinion. He said something that you just don’t say as a coach in this league of gentlemen. It’d be great if Florida fans had the intellectual integrity to admit it.
Well anyways whoever’s football coach’s mouth is worse, at least Florida’ basketball coach isn’t calling members of his state klansmen. Thanks Bruce Pearl, very nice timing.
GRAMSEY is right
Tenn will follow Kiffin to the grave. I dont know why though, They bashed fulmer the crap out of fulmer, but praise fulmer for what? keeping it close? WOW Kiffin really knew what he was doing.
You can't delete your own comments.
All the stupid, mindless things you’ve said will be there to mock you to the end of Time itself.
by danmarcel on Sep 25, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i didnt say anything stupid
a typo may be looked at as that person being stupid, but what i said was true, and probly the smartest thing you have ever read in your life.
Oh, it wasn't the typos.
Good lord, I make plenty of those. No, it’s your continued insistence in the face of all reason and evidence that Jonathan Crompton is a QB that can win games. The only thing that passing more or hurrying our play would have done would be to give the Gators the 30 point plus blowout that their egos so obviously, desperately need. Tennessee’s players and coaches did everything within their limited means to win that football game. Obviously, you think otherwise, which is fine. But you’re wrong.
this couldnt be any more one sided
but i wouldnt expect anything else from a teams own site.
1. Urban Meyer was wrong, but he was only sticking up for his own team from the comments of Kiffn and the media that they found the BLUEPRINT to beat them. Lets not argue if Kiffin was playing to win, but lets say Meyer honestly felt like Kiffin wasnt. That doesnt give him the right to openly say it in public, but again it makes sense of why he did. If a friend played you in (anything) and you got the feeling they were just waiting for you to mess up and not exposing any of thier flaws to risk losing, so in return you play extra carefull. When it is all over the friend and your other friends brags how he figured out a way to beat you… You would say the same thing, I was just playing your own game. AGAIN this is not a backyard game of horse shoes, so he was wrong to say that about Kiffin even if he was right.
2. We won, Im over it. As a Huge Gator fan this will always be somthing to argue with whoever wants to start it. Do i lose sleep over it? NO!
3. You cant deny running the ball is not a way to come back by too TD’s. Sure they score in 2 minutes by running it. BUT YOU FAIL TO MENTION ALL OTHER FACTORS.
A. They started the drive at mid feild.
B. They havent score a TD all game, one drive doesnt solidy the fact of doing it over and over again becuase it worked that one time.
C. It was 4th quarter Gators were up 17 points, tenn was at mid feild. 9/10 teams would give up the run to ensure a quick score didnt happen.
D. Simply saying your quarterback isnt good enough to use him, is a stupid idea. If Tenn was starting drives at the OPP side of the field and was scoring all game on running the ball with little time being used i would understand not throwing. But not thowing simply becuase your quarteback is terrible is like saying whats the point of kicking a onside kick, it usually doesnt work.
E. Some might say look what happend when they did try to throw deep, he threw picks. He threw the picks both times becuase no one was open and even if its picked it was like a long punt, those picks didnt hurt you.
F. Let the game speak for itself, you ran the ball and you got a late TD off a turnover, you tried it again but it didnt work. How can you so blindly stick up for that choice, when it clearly did not work. Wouldnt you rather going for it all and losing, then barley losing becuase you didnt go for it all.
There wasnt a point in the game where Tenn was threatening to pull the upset, they were never in striking distance.
oh i forgot
the drive u score a TD on, it was over 3min long and that was from midfeild. The second drive was 4min wich you had only got 30 yards with. So wasting 4min on the clock to get 30 yards is a good strategy.
Go away - you are talking to yourself and it's time for you to think about Kentucky
We can deal with revisionist Gator history next year. See you in Knoxville!
by memphispete on Sep 25, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions

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