College BlogPoll Week 4: Raw Computer Numbers

by David Hooper on Sep 27, 2009 5:47 PM EDT

The numbers are up! I'm going to change my approach this week, and I think this will work better for the rest of the season. Here's the plan (for all weeks that my schedule permits):

Post the computer numbers Sunday afternoon/evening. These will act as the first rough draft of the RTT BlogPoll ballot. (The draft is due in on Monday mornings.)
Time permitting, write a post about the poll results sometime Monday or Tuesday. This isn't so much a ranking post as it is a discussion about the performances of some teams and conferences. It won't have any bearing on the final ballot.
Take on board the conversations about the ballot and submit the final ballot Tuesday evening (final ballots are due Wednesday morning).

After the jump, you'll see the raw table in its entirety. It's long (120 Div. 1A teams), but don't let that be a concern. I'll put a few observations about some of the more unusual results below the table. The top 25 are the first draft ballot for the BlogPoll, but that does not make them sacrosanct. Feel free to shred from there.

Rank	Team	Delta

1	Florida
2	Alabama
3	Texas	11
4	Iowa	8
5	Boise State	8
6	Penn State	1
7	Cincinnati	4
8	Oklahoma	7
9	Kansas	1
10	LSU	2
11	North Carolina State
12	South Florida
13	Virginia Tech
14	Nebraska
15	UCLA	4
16	Southern Cal	8
17	Auburn	6
18	Arizona
19	TCU
20	Ohio State
21	Connecticut
22	Georgia Tech
23	Brigham Young
24	Texas A&M
25	West Virginia	5
Last week's ballot

Dropped Out: Miami (Florida) (#4), California (#6), Arizona State (#7), North Carolina (#9), Kentucky (#16), Southern Miss (#17), Houston (#18), Missouri (#21), Washington (#22), Clemson (#23), Mississippi (#25).

Rank	Team	WL	SOS	PED	RD	3DO	TD	PEO	OPPG	TO	3DD	W SUM
1	Florida	1.517	-0.306	1.973	0.919	2.109	1.929	1.900	1.969	2.159	1.128	136.161
2	Alabama	1.517	-0.354	1.106	1.863	0.532	2.078	1.683	1.264	1.633	1.351	117.837
3	Texas	1.517	-0.349	1.024	1.863	0.846	1.252	0.821	0.988	2.085	2.000	107.670
4	Iowa	1.517	1.636	1.579	0.090	0.365	0.604	-0.714	1.448	-0.465	0.095	96.059
5	Boise St.	1.517	-0.387	1.622	0.344	0.117	0.901	1.585	1.142	1.078	0.553	87.020
6	Penn St.	0.637	0.464	1.024	1.277	1.558	1.625	0.123	1.601	-0.068	0.982	85.850
7	Cincinnati	1.517	-0.438	0.900	0.261	1.245	0.463	1.986	1.142	1.431	-0.159	85.499
8	Oklahoma	0.344	-0.056	1.077	1.999	0.187	1.776	1.218	2.285	1.077	0.822	81.460
9	Kansas	1.517	-0.960	-0.054	1.614	1.294	0.510	0.999	1.203	1.942	1.135	79.039
10	LSU	1.517	0.672	1.323	0.048	0.487	0.181	0.595	0.988	-1.020	-0.586	74.716
11	North Carolina St.	0.637	-0.571	0.505	1.267	1.113	2.096	1.479	1.050	0.391	2.130	74.350
12	South Fla.	1.517	-2.066	1.227	0.515	0.998	1.495	1.693	2.031	0.799	2.234	73.643
13	Virginia Tech	0.637	2.597	1.570	-0.579	-0.563	0.297	-0.445	0.835	-0.403	1.017	71.245
14	Nebraska	0.637	0.092	1.037	0.442	0.794	0.876	0.969	2.000	0.891	0.208	68.203
15	UCLA	1.517	-0.550	1.683	1.301	-0.785	1.375	-0.687	1.305	-1.148	1.307	67.652
16	Southern California	0.637	0.212	1.135	1.609	-1.599	1.723	0.413	1.632	0.656	1.017	67.609
17	Auburn	1.517	-0.895	0.886	-0.351	1.113	0.264	1.668	-0.115	2.159	-0.718	66.098
18	Arizona	0.637	1.025	0.545	0.883	0.069	0.836	-0.126	0.345	0.479	-0.560	61.779
19	TCU	1.517	-1.985	0.815	1.433	-0.163	1.462	1.289	1.019	0.675	0.760	61.433
20	Ohio St.	0.637	0.119	1.288	0.774	0.309	1.263	-0.033	1.479	-0.182	-0.419	60.508
21	Connecticut	0.637	0.061	0.354	1.433	0.266	1.647	-0.514	1.019	-0.241	1.513	57.521
22	Georgia Tech	0.637	1.528	-0.446	0.644	0.653	0.358	0.215	0.284	0.115	-0.080	57.463
23	BYU	0.637	0.633	-0.184	0.074	2.017	0.025	1.165	0.008	0.788	-1.007	54.004
24	Texas A&M	1.517	-2.338	0.781	-0.178	2.057	-0.082	1.549	0.611	2.866	1.379	53.771
25	West Virginia	0.344	-0.124	0.134	1.108	1.927	0.492	0.767	-0.452	1.557	-0.027	51.658
26	South Carolina	0.637	0.555	0.422	0.764	-0.571	1.404	-0.415	0.713	-0.124	0.245	49.899
27	Miami (FL)	0.344	2.642	-0.628	-0.455	-0.206	0.174	0.956	-0.492	0.004	-0.278	48.055
28	North Carolina	0.637	0.593	1.108	0.385	-1.121	1.383	-0.101	1.111	-1.057	0.743	47.893
29	Houston	1.517	-0.516	0.206	-0.711	0.842	-0.690	1.155	-0.002	2.405	-1.425	47.390
30	Michigan	1.517	0.179	0.186	-0.102	0.365	-0.576	-0.057	0.069	0.630	0.222	47.207
31	Oregon	0.637	1.589	0.990	0.095	-1.121	0.246	-0.450	0.345	-0.638	0.429	45.528
32	Arizona St.	0.344	-0.331	1.487	1.301	-0.437	1.954	-1.109	1.346	-0.981	0.987	43.747
33	Air Force	0.637	-1.625	0.679	0.639	1.113	1.060	1.352	1.418	0.402	1.936	41.067
34	Georgia	0.637	1.093	-0.142	0.504	0.117	-0.141	0.943	-0.789	-0.326	0.626	40.734
35	Tennessee	-0.242	0.622	0.798	1.039	0.156	1.636	-0.587	0.651	-0.160	0.413	39.619
36	Utah	0.637	-0.374	1.196	0.043	-0.315	0.742	-0.053	0.529	0.784	2.225	38.774
37	Clemson	-0.242	2.070	1.343	-0.185	-0.591	0.814	-1.241	0.866	-0.767	0.834	37.506
38	Stanford	0.637	-0.213	-0.001	0.375	0.878	0.213	0.492	0.774	0.589	0.054	36.128
39	Wisconsin	1.517	-1.233	-0.424	-0.180	1.645	-0.373	1.359	-0.054	0.714	-0.560	35.908
40	Oklahoma St.	0.637	-0.457	0.485	0.390	0.661	-0.080	1.270	0.253	0.593	0.715	35.438
41	Southern Miss.	0.637	-1.000	0.030	1.510	0.309	0.709	0.652	0.161	0.869	0.281	35.136
42	Missouri	1.517	-2.043	0.382	0.069	0.552	-0.083	1.559	0.958	1.082	-0.525	33.927
43	California	0.637	0.267	-0.739	0.634	0.397	0.145	0.189	0.314	0.571	0.281	31.372
44	Idaho	0.637	-0.291	-0.844	0.727	1.716	0.228	0.784	-0.176	0.387	-2.308	30.807
45	Washington	-0.242	2.525	-0.365	-1.217	1.988	-0.482	-0.038	-0.237	-0.304	0.008	28.977
46	Boston College	0.637	-0.462	0.708	0.587	-0.896	1.176	-0.104	1.142	-1.013	1.182	27.943
47	Baylor	0.344	-0.307	1.105	-0.573	0.435	0.671	0.802	0.243	0.298	-0.940	27.740
48	Central Mich.	0.637	-0.870	-0.050	0.499	0.712	1.042	0.073	0.805	-0.278	1.073	27.615
49	Indiana	0.637	0.039	-0.536	0.888	-0.049	0.271	-0.241	0.130	0.277	0.003	24.714
50	Notre Dame	0.637	-0.162	-0.465	0.136	0.487	-0.634	1.517	0.130	1.111	-0.089	23.769
51	Mississippi	0.344	-0.994	1.214	0.762	-0.996	0.806	-0.014	1.387	-0.202	1.915	19.106
52	Texas Tech	-0.242	0.081	0.170	0.707	0.462	0.003	0.784	0.222	1.416	-0.883	18.645
53	Mississippi St.	-0.242	1.074	0.791	0.173	-0.576	0.655	-1.057	0.130	-0.351	1.009	17.549
54	Kansas St.	-0.242	-0.541	1.103	0.945	-0.695	1.516	-0.602	0.897	-0.065	0.651	15.500
55	Florida St.	-0.242	1.824	-1.215	0.520	0.532	-0.887	0.339	0.038	0.325	0.487	15.120
56	Minnesota	0.637	0.612	-0.385	-0.154	-0.092	-0.170	-0.385	0.038	-0.767	-0.905	13.094
57	Tulsa	0.637	-1.551	-0.310	0.624	0.226	0.286	1.287	0.682	0.619	0.487	12.911
58	Wake Forest	-0.242	0.504	-0.509	-0.009	0.838	-0.123	0.981	0.559	0.483	-0.294	11.582
59	Hawaii	0.344	-1.368	0.099	0.216	0.552	-0.459	2.197	-0.166	1.998	-0.728	11.060
60	Iowa St.	0.637	0.097	-0.037	-0.445	-0.293	-0.174	-0.971	0.529	0.027	0.785	8.360
61	Colorado St.	0.637	-0.722	0.139	0.831	-1.121	0.087	0.665	-0.268	-0.105	-1.568	7.329
62	Oregon St.	-0.242	0.343	-0.560	0.930	0.552	-0.264	0.078	0.008	0.178	-0.723	3.752
63	Pittsburgh	0.637	-0.698	-0.721	0.510	-0.613	-0.083	1.287	0.345	-0.285	-0.746	3.670
64	Vanderbilt	-0.242	-0.556	1.770	-0.470	-0.437	1.158	-1.720	1.172	-0.171	1.856	2.514
65	Fresno St.	-1.121	1.796	-0.647	-0.201	1.113	-0.351	-0.107	-0.605	1.512	0.581	1.760
66	Navy	-0.242	-0.400	-0.796	0.520	1.803	0.184	0.614	-0.023	-0.337	0.229	1.093
67	Rutgers	0.637	-0.963	-0.402	1.023	-0.504	-0.011	-0.521	0.345	-0.418	0.822	-0.478
68	Northwestern	-0.242	-1.025	-0.266	0.105	1.791	0.130	1.014	-0.513	0.549	0.319	-2.875
69	UNLV	-0.242	-0.469	-0.935	0.510	2.034	-0.319	0.411	0.130	0.384	-0.755	-3.136
70	Kentucky	0.344	-0.351	0.540	-1.008	0.510	-0.111	-0.664	0.079	-0.614	0.212	-3.789
71	Michigan St.	-1.121	1.134	-1.026	0.489	0.641	-0.243	1.056	-0.299	0.869	-0.931	-7.374
72	Marshall	0.637	-0.137	0.087	-0.673	-0.383	-0.999	-0.514	-0.391	-0.605	-1.158	-12.862
73	Middle Tenn.	0.637	-1.049	0.150	-0.320	-0.797	-0.406	-0.420	-0.299	0.409	0.281	-12.864
74	La.-Monroe	-0.242	-0.316	-0.184	0.442	0.108	-0.384	0.341	-0.881	-0.006	-0.541	-15.330
75	La.-Lafayette	-0.242	0.897	-0.866	-0.310	0.338	-0.492	-0.740	-0.820	-0.748	-1.244	-18.830
76	Western Mich.	-0.242	-0.239	-0.309	-0.413	0.653	-0.641	0.167	0.100	-0.322	-0.248	-20.779
77	Bowling Green	-1.121	2.017	-0.279	-0.968	0.120	-0.536	-0.567	-0.421	-0.491	0.641	-20.977
78	Northern Ill.	-0.242	0.036	-0.804	-0.232	-0.139	-0.322	0.448	0.100	-0.304	-1.447	-21.841
79	Duke	-0.242	-0.265	0.121	-0.336	-1.212	0.166	-0.080	-0.237	-0.116	0.193	-22.663
80	SMU	0.344	-1.994	0.918	0.575	-0.538	-0.705	-0.537	-0.657	0.773	0.039	-22.732
81	Ohio	-0.242	-0.884	1.161	-1.253	-0.306	0.170	-0.375	-0.115	-0.987	0.957	-29.002
82	Purdue	-1.121	1.127	0.238	-0.839	0.066	-1.093	-0.129	-0.850	0.612	-0.715	-30.701
83	UCF	-0.242	-1.194	-0.511	0.810	0.447	0.116	-0.508	0.222	-1.542	-0.688	-31.891
84	San Diego St.	-1.121	0.314	0.494	-0.517	-0.013	0.264	-0.535	-0.575	-0.682	-0.883	-33.122
85	Louisville	-0.828	-0.639	0.070	0.070	-0.514	0.844	-0.867	-0.044	-0.393	-0.644	-35.592
86	Syracuse	-0.242	0.091	-1.229	1.121	-2.142	-0.688	0.504	-0.483	-0.752	-0.379	-36.024
87	East Carolina	-0.242	-0.252	-1.285	0.276	0.435	-0.507	-1.126	-0.329	-1.142	-0.620	-38.813
88	Army	-0.242	-1.318	-0.067	0.603	-0.876	0.630	-1.836	-0.115	-0.895	0.068	-40.181
89	Buffalo	-1.121	-0.539	0.251	-0.802	0.423	0.188	0.574	-1.157	-0.182	-0.620	-42.681
90	Arkansas St.	-0.828	-0.201	-0.976	0.769	-1.391	-0.155	0.293	0.079	-0.310	-0.101	-42.708
91	Wyoming	-0.242	0.109	0.218	-0.045	-1.559	-1.025	-1.449	-0.636	-0.822	-0.586	-42.970
92	Troy	-0.242	-0.105	-1.075	-0.201	-0.945	-0.934	0.030	-1.065	-0.061	-0.723	-44.240
93	Illinois	-0.828	0.330	-0.935	0.098	-0.078	-0.579	-1.398	-0.575	-0.467	-1.158	-47.632
94	Toledo	-0.242	-0.663	0.246	-1.331	-0.007	-1.796	0.105	-2.015	1.380	-1.666	-48.538
95	Temple	-0.828	-0.617	-0.299	0.430	-0.600	-0.280	-0.548	-0.044	-0.677	-0.516	-48.827
96	Arkansas	-0.828	0.876	-2.710	0.278	-2.028	-0.589	0.808	-1.105	0.940	0.085	-50.343
97	New Mexico St.	-0.242	-1.772	0.362	-0.387	0.195	0.213	-1.770	-0.023	-1.369	-1.331	-52.346
98	North Texas	-1.121	0.062	0.222	-0.678	-1.018	-0.492	-0.745	-1.157	-0.175	0.291	-57.214
99	Colorado	-0.828	0.384	-0.918	-0.953	-0.302	-0.927	-1.116	-0.289	-0.540	0.923	-57.311
100	Kent St.	-0.242	-0.826	0.483	-0.543	-2.643	-0.384	-0.950	0.192	-1.627	-0.027	-60.356
101	Louisiana Tech	-0.828	-0.210	-0.156	-2.377	0.542	-0.893	-0.165	-0.492	-0.824	-0.735	-64.280
102	Memphis	-1.121	0.178	-0.514	-0.880	-1.018	-0.630	-0.743	-0.728	-0.748	0.633	-67.561
103	Akron	-1.121	0.345	-0.726	-0.699	-0.840	-0.492	-0.387	-0.728	-1.575	-1.905	-67.812
104	Utah St.	-0.828	-0.254	-0.404	-1.229	-1.870	-2.032	0.275	-1.515	1.611	0.393	-75.124
105	Virginia	-2.000	0.390	0.565	-0.904	-0.769	0.024	-1.236	-0.942	-1.486	1.307	-75.667
106	Maryland	-1.121	0.115	-0.936	-1.347	-0.462	-0.956	-0.370	-1.831	-0.362	0.416	-76.163
107	Eastern Mich.	-2.000	0.839	1.789	-3.137	-0.527	-0.295	-1.301	-1.187	-1.520	-0.596	-81.039
108	Miami (OH)	-2.000	0.993	-1.444	-0.771	0.178	-0.597	-1.431	-2.260	-0.598	-1.456	-87.933
109	UTEP	-1.121	0.880	-0.539	-1.803	-0.555	-1.535	-1.934	-1.218	-2.009	-0.931	-88.237
110	Fla. Atlantic	-2.000	1.394	-1.314	-2.017	0.435	-1.603	-0.829	-1.800	0.170	0.113	-89.351
111	Washington St.	-1.121	1.078	-1.547	-0.585	-1.418	-2.281	-1.460	-1.157	-0.958	0.039	-89.439
112	Nevada	-2.000	1.975	-3.386	-0.165	-0.139	-1.607	-1.094	-1.270	-0.231	-1.069	-91.737
113	UAB	-1.121	-0.492	-1.228	-0.341	-0.327	-1.951	-1.104	-1.494	0.126	-1.348	-92.847
114	Tulane	-0.828	-0.320	-1.845	-1.713	-0.591	-1.805	0.467	-2.168	-0.908	-1.931	-100.729
115	FIU	-2.000	1.533	-0.874	-1.706	-0.327	-2.114	-1.215	-1.392	-1.432	0.386	-101.123
116	San Jose St.	-1.121	0.397	-0.854	-2.254	-2.302	-1.560	-1.028	-1.157	-1.803	-0.481	-110.916
117	New Mexico	-2.000	0.700	-1.486	-1.388	-2.264	-1.086	-1.385	-1.494	-1.726	-1.225	-127.229
118	Ball St.	-2.000	-0.367	-1.135	-1.653	-0.757	-0.996	-1.927	-0.850	-1.641	-0.163	-130.416
119	Rice	-2.000	-0.222	-1.739	-0.719	-0.812	-1.908	-1.672	-2.536	-0.774	-0.582	-136.278
120	Western Ky.	-2.000	0.037	-2.651	-3.374	-1.212	-2.223	-1.504	-2.168	-1.579	-3.074	-177.283

Observations:

Iowa?!? Even after the Penn State upset, the ascendancy of Iowa to #4 surprised me. That early struggle they had against Northern Iowa had set me against them as a possibly good team, but they really have been impressive since then. Their biggest boon is a schedule that ranks toughest in the nation so far, thanks to their opponents generally winning out otherwise, and the opponents of their opponents generally winning out. Beatpaths are very much in their favor at this point. But their pass efficiency defense is up with the best of them as well, and only their passing offense is holding their numbers back. It's a great early resume from a team that nobody was talking about prior to Saturday.
Virginia Tech and Miami - too low? I feel they are, and I wonder if the win/loss component is too heavy at the moment. With early schedules, the difference between undefeated and one loss against a major team doesn't really carry a lot of meaning. Perhaps this should be de-emphasized early on. I pass that to you as a question because it seems counter-intuitive.
Auburn? After starting 4-0 with a prolific offense and wins over West Virginia and Mississippi State, you'd think they would be higher than LSU. But in a bizarre twist, their strength of schedule is far lower than I anticipated (#102 out of all D-1A teams). This is because their opponents (and the opponents of their oppoents) aren't winning. Given the struggles they had with West Virginia and that they likely would have lost if WVU hadn't handed them the game, maybe this is a bit of an early red flag. But I still think they should be higher at this point.
Texas A&M Another team making me think that Win/Loss counts for too much early on. They have played nobody. And there's no reason to expect them to be top-25ish. Over time, they'll undoubtedly crater downward where they belong, but I'm willing to listen to a reason to bump them down right now.
TCU Sporting the mid-major curse of the poor strength of schedule, they stand to rise naturally as other metrics take on more weight. But for now, they feel a little low.
Nebraska Average schedule, no notable weaknesses.

There you go. Hack away!

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The raw data is a fair sight more reasonable this week

Which, coupled with the fact that teams #4-30 are interchangeable, makes this poll harder to gripe about.

*USF got their big win. They can stay ranked.
*Iowa is overrated, but they’ve proved worthy of a solid ranking, so they’re probably not overrated by more than 10 spots.
*LSU is overrated (still), but there aren’t a whole lot of other teams to stick ahead of them.
*VT and Miami are both underrated.
*Nebraska probably deserves their ranking. They outplayed VT and have owned 3 weaker teams.
*A&M probably doesn’t. Utah State? Seriously?
*I expected a big TCU jump after the win over Clemson. I guess it wasn’t as big because Clemson is just 2-2.
*Teams 26-31 can all argue for being ranked. I feel like Oregon’s case is the strongest, with a road loss to a top 5 team and a dominating win over a decent Cal team.
*I don’t understand Arizona’s top 25 case. They’re 3-1 against a mediocre schedule. And?
*The most overrated team is NCState. They’re 1-1 against I-A schools, with the only win at home over Pittsburgh (who isn’t bad, but isn’t that good either).

by Incipient_Senescence on Sep 27, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions

TAMU? Absolutely not.

Houston? Absolutely yes. I’m still undecided on Oregon – I need another week of good performance.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Sep 27, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks. (And this time, I'll listen more. ;-)

Quick replies:

+ Agreed on USF, Iowa, LSU, VT, Miami, Nebraska, A&M, TCU, and NC State.

+ TCU’s problem is (a) only having played 3 games against an 0-3 Virginia, a 1-AA Texas State, and a 2-2 Clemson. It’s absolutely destroying their SoS, but that will improve over the next few weeks by default, and they should rise in a hurry.

+ Arizona is riding the coattails of a close game against Iowa, along with wins against respectable Oregon State and Central Michigan squads. Since SoS is a function of opposing win/loss records (and, to a lesser degree the w/l of their opponents), Arizona’s is numerically equivalent to that of Georgia and Mississippi State. I’m surprised by them as well, but I can see how that works out.

+ I’m thinking Houston in, TAMU out as well. At the absolute minimum.

by David Hooper on Sep 27, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions

And, once again:

Cincinnati is too low.

Eric Berry for sending the guy who wins the Heisman spinning 720 degrees in the air at the podium - or for intercepting it and returning it to where it rightfully belongs

by Chris Pendley on Sep 27, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions

heh.

agreed.

by David Hooper on Sep 27, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Iowa sucks!

Did anyone watch that game? Miserable football. But that describes the entire Big 10. They all suck. Iowa was flat-out lucky to beat Northern Iowa in their season opener!

by golfballs03 on Sep 27, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions

I'm not great with math

…but how does Penn State stay as high as #6?

Will - Rocky Top Talk

by Will Shelton on Sep 27, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions

Good question.

Let me backtrack that. I forgot about PSU.

by David Hooper on Sep 27, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Short answer: a previously very low Strength of Schedule that got a huge bump.

(Last week’s numbers)

SoS went from -0.822 to 0.4645 because of Iowa and because of previous opponents doing well. Other than that, Iowa didn’t really hurt their defensive numbers, which are a little more important than offensive numbers (higher correlations to winning). That made up most of the ground lost from the decrement in the W/L column (1.338 to 0.637). Oddly enough, they lost 17.5 points on W/L (25 * the difference) and gained 19.3 on SOS (15 * the difference).

by David Hooper on Sep 27, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions

My question about Penn State, then, is this:

Should they drop? If so, how far?

They’re ahead of Cincy by the tiniest of fractions (0.351 points), so one a one spot drop is no big deal. The next few spots are more substantial. Would that be warranted?

by David Hooper on Sep 27, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd say definitely behind Cincy

If the numbers are that far on their side after that, I’m not crazy enough about any of those other teams to bump them up that far in return, unless it was solely for the sake of rewarding teams that are still undefeated like LSU.

Will - Rocky Top Talk

by Will Shelton on Sep 28, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions

I can be on board with that.

Cincy’s SOS took a nosedive because of Fresno State, but that doesn’t mean that Fresno is a bad team necessarily. And besides, Pike looks really good up there.

LSU has big problems in their offensive production that is holding them back, so I think I’d prefer to leave them alone until they show more from their offense. (And MSU really should have won that game.)

by David Hooper on Sep 28, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions