Lane Kiffin: Rebound Girl
When it ends, you think about the way it began.
We were looking for something new, and this was it. We knew we needed change, and we went for it in every possible way. And it was exciting. It was fresh. And it was dangerous.
We made new friends and old enemies. And the early returns were more than we could've possibly imagined, because this relationship brought Bryce Brown, Nu'Keese Richardson, and Janzen Jackson into our lives. Nothing tangible yet, but wow, the potential.
I think about those guys now. About Bryce and Janzen and all of those other recruits who bought into the plan, and are now even more upset than we are.
I think about Nick Stephens. About Gerald Jones, Ben Martin, Nick Reveiz. About all of the guys who were around for the last breakup, who have now allowed themselves to get hurt all over again by someone else they were beginning to trust. If you play defense for Tennessee and you loved John Chavis, but it was okay to move on because now you were playing for Monte Kiffin, where do you go from here?
Did we trust Lane Kiffin? Most of us did, even if just for the fact that he was our coach. And even when all the talk faded away and the Vols turned into a 7-6 football team, we were still on board. We still trusted him. Even if the blind passion was over, we liked our chances with this one; our serious relationship was off to an acceptable start.
But now it turns out our rebound girl wants to give it a go with her old flame. She'll say she thinks he's The One, how this is her dream and she wouldn't leave us for anyone else, and that she never really meant to hurt us. And we will not listen. To any of it.
When it ends, you think about where things go from here.
Tonight isn't about Phillip Fulmer, and I'm really not so sure it's about Mike Hamilton. It's getting ready to be all about Mike Hamilton in terms of the next decision he makes, but really, how many athletic directors in the country are going to bed tonight thinking "Man, I'm glad I'm not that guy."
But the success we enjoyed under Fulmer was rare. You're allowed to feel however you want about that guy, even a year later, but our success at the top of his game is what it's all about. We wanted that back. And in the earliest stages, we were beginning to think that Kiffin could be the one to take us back to the promised land.
Now it's over, and the promised land seems farther away than it did when it started.
Lane Kiffin can say whatever he wants about us being in better shape than we were when he found us 14 months ago. That was a true statement five hours ago. But in one day, he may have done more to hurt us in the long run than Phillip Fulmer ever did. When you bail on us three weeks before signing day and do everything in your power to take all of our recruits with you, you weaken us immeasurably. Whatever good shape we were in on Monday, by his own hand Kiffin changed the entire situation for the worse on Tuesday. For the much worse. Our recruiting class could go from Top 10 to Top 100 overnight, and those effects could last for years.
I think about September, when despite our glaring deficiencies in the trenches and inexperience at quarterback, I was already talking myself into a dark horse SEC East run. I think about our rivals and the way we defended our coach in the face of their accusations, and how we'll do it again for the next guy. I think about places like Georgia that will try and comfort themselves with some form of "we told you so!" because they have the unique honor of being 0-1 forever against Lane Kiffin and Jonathan Crompton, 45-19.
I think about the ways in which I try and remember the good times, only to realize that with this one, those memories won't last.
We wanted to believe in Lane Kiffin, and it seemed like Lane Kiffin was doing enough to give us reason to do so. But in the quick and bitter end, it turns out that Lane Kiffin wasn't worth believing in at all.
Time will tell if he and USC have what it takes to go the distance. But he will always be our rebound girl and nothing more - the one that, in the end, made us realize how good we used to have it, and the one who will never truly be remembered as part of the Tennessee Family.
I hurt plenty over Fulmer's departure, even when change was necessary. I will not hurt for an infant who sold out his team at the absolute worst possible moment. Because while we think about Tennessee, Lane Kiffin thinks only about Lane Kiffin.
The Tennessee Family remains the constant. And so now, as Mike Hamilton knows, it immediately becomes about the next guy and the next step. The challenge will be greater than ever before. But we will be more than ready to love again.
Let's go.
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Amen
And I want to say to all of those who stay in Knoxville despite Rebound Girl going to sleep around in a California with the REAL big bad boys with REAL big bad penalties coming up: Thank You.
For those of you who are going to leave, either with our “lubbable” coaches or elsewhere: well, you never really were a Volunteer. You aren’t part of our family.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
No use trying to make sense of it
Guys like Kiffin have no loyalty, conscience, etc. NOT the kind of guy that was going to fit in here long term. Let’s hope we get our new man SOON and that our current players have some influence on our recruiting commits. I think we now know that “integrity” and “character” should be near the top of the list of traits we are looking for as opposed to “hotshot” and “brash”.
We'll stick together. We'll overcome it
But the short-term, man. I can’t think of very many ways that we aren’t toast. I just hope Oregeron’s classy academic interference/recruiting during the dead period/whatever else they can pin on him gets USC serious penalties. In addition to whatever ones they were already getting. And I hope we can hire somebody that can pick up the pieces and restore us to our once proud perch atop the SEC. I just don’t know where that coach will come from.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 13, 2010 1:52 AM EST reply actions
Vol Fans, I truly believe you are better off without the slimebucket
Let me first say that my family has a place in their heart for the wonderful hospitality of the Vol Nation when we visited Neyland stadium this past year for the only quality Bruin victory of this past season. IIRC we mainly won because your QB Crompton threw 4 interceptions, but that is besides the point.
Before, during and after the game we were blown away by the truly royal and gracious treatment we were given. From the Rocky Top welcome of the football team by the band and thousands of fans, to the zeal of Neyland stadium, to the unbelievable class of your fans in defeat, we could not get over the entire, wonderful, Tennessee experience from Nashville to Knoxville and back.
That’s what college football should be about, and you guys and gals are all class
Your outrage at being betrayed at such a critical time in the recruiting process is understandable. You have every right to feel that way, because Kiffin proved he cares nothing for UT or the kids he recruited or the team he claimed he was leading to the promised land.
Now he’s even trying to mess with our coaching staff. Unbelievable.
Just remember, you’re better off without this slimebucket. He would have tainted your program forever. No doubt you will replace him with a better man very soon.
Don’t worry about revenge. Leave that to us back here in Bruintown. It will be our pleasure to beat them down for you, at least until you get a chance to play that piece of crap sometime on the future in a bowl game and give him some nice payback yourself.
GO VOLS!
Thanks
Y’all UCLA folks have been pure class. Lots of you have come over and said nothing but good things. I ordinarily wouldn’t root for a SoCal-based team if my life depended on it, but y’all have my full support, at the very least whenever you play USCwest (South Carolina beat them by 79 years).
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 13, 2010 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
UCLA fans, our brothers!
Joel and Hoop, perhaps RTT should form an official alliance with the folks over at Bruins Nation.
I’ve been a casual fan of UCLA basketball since the O’Bannon brothers and Tyus Edney’s 4.5 second dash to the national championship. Westbrook is one of my favorite NBA players. Must admit I had issue with JJ Stokes back in the day.
Where’s the Iraqui shoe-thrower when you need him? Wish he was at Lane’s little lie-fest last night.
Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!
by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Lane Kiffin wasn't the rebound girl...
…he was the stripper. We married a stripper. Now we’re surprised she skipped town with the bellhop. Perhaps we shouldn’t be. I hear this is what strippers do.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
by kidbourbon on Jan 13, 2010 2:27 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Can we call him "Candyfin" now?
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Jan 13, 2010 4:08 AM EST up reply actions
Mike Leach is the Answer
He is NOT an evil abuser of young men as youmay have been led to beleive and he could have a top notch staff in place tomorrow.
I hope you don’t hire him because I would like UT to be an easy win (no disrespect) next year but for the good of the SEC and Rocky Top, which I like more than any other SEC School not arrayed in Purple and Gold, I think this guy would be a homerun and could quickly salvage the recruiting class.
Just leave Chavis alone!!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
I don't think he's an evil abuser of anyone
I’m inclined to believe he was totally in the right. That said, he’d be a PR disaster, after after the last few months, we can’t have that. Also, I’m not convinced he can recruit at a high enough level to do any better than the consistent 9 win seasons he turned in at Tech. We want championships.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 13, 2010 2:31 AM EST up reply actions
Leach and defense
Defensive coordinators are hired for a reason (see Kiffin, Monte).
...just apologize for not thanking me.
Leach and recruiting
Delegation is an important part of management.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
From another Penn State alum
You’re better off without Lame Kitten. I would get Leach in a heart beat.
2 points
1. This is a stupid sport. Ultimately this is a blip in the history of a proud program. In a day when there is so much tangible and physical pain in a country not that far away, I feel guilty for getting upset over a stupid game and a stupid coach. (now for a rant disregarding the guilt in point one, see point two below)
2. You know in the old movies where somebody will say the villains name and then spit? I didn’t really get that until today. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to say “Lane Kiffin” without spitting in the dust to get the taste out of my mouth. In the end it isn’t even that he left. I don’t think anyone really trusted him to be a long termer, but it’s how he left. He left us out cold. We defended him when others scoffed, and he ends up being the very mercenary characterization we were defending him from. And the bull of it is, is that he could have had it all. See his vision through and he would be a hero in this state. Build it and they will come, take over after the architect leaves and you’ll be forever measured. He told us he was going to build, and he didn’t even lay a foundation. That’s the reason I’ll spit after saying Kiffin’s name. Because even in this day and age, when you say your going to do something, you do it. And I don’t think anybody here will ever forget that. It’s not that mercenaries never work out (they do – see Nick Saban), and it’s not that we don’t expect mercenaries to leave for greener pastures (real or perceived), it’s that we expect even a mercenary to have some honor in the way they do business. Kiffin has none, and that’s why this day is bitter.
"I' m not from England but my money still comes in pounds"
This whole thing has hit me pretty hard...
…because I have consistently been the most vociferous Kiffin apologist both on this site and in life. I constantly defended him. I concocted various arguments to rationalize his often times questionable actions. I first convinced myself, and then persuaded others, that Tennessee would be a legit national powerhouse in two years. And that they would be back on the mountaintop because of Kiffin.
And then him and O actively try to steal early enrollees on their way out the door. Even though I don’t know the man from Adam, it kinda feels personal. Silly, I know. But it does.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
Just WOW
Hi TN fans! I am obviously a UCLA fan, but my boyfriend is a TN fan and lives in Knoxville. My company has an office outside of Knoxville so I visit TN every month and I have been a VOL fan too for a long time (my second favorite team). When Kiffin was hired I was really bummed out. It made it hard to root for y’all, not just because he is a trOJan, but because he is just a total JERK. I’m glad he’s gone. The University of Tennessee can do MUCH better than a classless weasel who runs out like this.
GO VOLS!
"The entire world that bleeds blue and gold ... they have been dying for this." - Coach Rick Neuheisel
From the Buster Sports blog
It would at least seem that [Muschamp] would be interested, especially once Tennessee starts dumping piles of money on the table, and if the Vols were able to pull Muschamp away from Austin (I’d gauge the odds at something like 65/35 that they can), then suddenly UT would have gone from “spurned lover” to “upgraded lottery ticket winner.”
No doubt about it.
If you could get him, Muschamp is a good hire. Kiffin was/is an ass. I’m not surprised that you guys defended him until now, but at least we can all agree on it today.
"So I want everybody to think here for a second, how much does this game mean to you? 'Cause if it means something to you, you can't stand still. You understand? You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his ass quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O.... as a team! That's what people know us as!" - Coach Nick Saban before the 2008 LSU game.
by 12NationalChampionships on Jan 13, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
We're not comforting ourselves with "I told you so"
I said at the time that we lost badly to a bad football team, and that proved just how bad we were. This just underscores that. The Bulldogs sucked last year, the loss in Knoxville was the ignominious low point of the worst season of the Mark Richt era, and today will be the 743rd consecutive day of abject suckitude in Bulldog Nation. None of us have ever doubted that, and yesterday’s events don’t ameliorate that reality; in fact, they make it worse.
We’re saying “I told you so” because we told you so and a Tennessee fan base I have always found to be the classiest among Georgia’s annual rivals responded with an attitude acquired from a head coach who had no capacity whatsoever to deliver on that attitude. A program that recruited well, played good defense, and lost seven games in 2008 turned into a program that recruited well, played good defense, and lost six games in 2009, but this charlatan managed to convince people that this represented an enormous turnaround. It didn’t.
Nevertheless, although the other eleven SEC teams are reveling in Kiffinfreude this morning, y’all at least have the consolation about your head coaching search that we have about our defensive coordinator search; namely, there’s nowhere to go but up from here.
The next time we try to give you some friendly advice, though, remember that we were right the first time.
Go 'Dawgs!
You weren't necessarily right
What you told us was that there was simply no basis to believe that Kiffin will succeed. Over the last decade, USC has proven to be a better program than Tennessee, so a lateral move to the Trojans is at best, further evidence of success, and at worst, no evidence of anything relating to his capacity for success.
Also, I believe he did turn the program around. We didn’t get very far in the other direction, but I thought that we had at least gotten the thing pointed in the right direction. Reasonable minds can disagree about that, but that wasn’t our argument of this summer. Nor was our argument about whether the guy was a weasel. There is no doubt this morning that he is and you can take whatever joy you want in that on your site.
Our argument was whether there was “simply no basis” to believe he could succeed, an argument that was easily won simply because of the careless way the question was couched. We tried to have fun with it, but things got a bit testy, so we pulled back. But to claim victory on that point based on the events of last night doesn’t follow.
Kyle, you and I are friends, and I hope we can either keep this conversation friendly or not have it at all. And I’m afraid I’m going to have to impose on you to pull the bulk of the load on that point because frankly, I’m in a foul mood.
Rocky Top Talk
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jan 13, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
Joel, you know I respect you and I value your friendship
I meant what I said about the Tennessee fan base being by far the classiest I have encountered among Georgia’s annual rivals, which is why the effect of Lane Kiffin’s bombast caused me so much aggravation. I only commented because Will made a statement about Bulldog fans comforting ourselves, which isn’t the case. There is no comfort; we lost that game badly, and there is no excusing it away. The two are separate issues.
However, I understand your bad mood and I have made my point, which was the only point I wanted to make in response to Will’s statement, which is mistaken. I wish you well (to the extent that Tennessee’s interests do not conflict with Georgia’s, of course) and, in the spirit of friendship and good sportsmanship, I will leave the comment thread with my apologies if I gave offense.
Go 'Dawgs!
by T Kyle King on Jan 13, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
No apology necessary, Kyle
And sorry to have to lean on you to be the better sport. Thanks for taking up my slack.
Rocky Top Talk
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jan 13, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
You are either naive or ignorant
Which one is it?
Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!
by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
It's over
We’re good. Let’s let it go.
Rocky Top Talk
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jan 13, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I'm in a better frame of mind now
I had a hot chicken sandwich from Prince’s, washed down with an ice-cold RC cola.
Mmmmm, hot chicken.
Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!
by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Prince's?
Prince’s, I don’t know. But you almost can’t go wrong with hot chicken. Except that stuff at the Chinese buffet. Which isn’t hot, so you know.
Rocky Top Talk
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jan 13, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
My point is
I don’t think any of us want friendly advice from rival fanbases on coaching hires. I don’t think any Georgia fans particularly care what we think about whoever ends up at UGA as DC (unless it was John Chavis or another ex-Vol), nor should they. And especially when a fanbase says “we/I told you so!” about him “failing” after having been on the receiving end of a 45-19 loss to that coach, it just doesn’t work. Kiffin chose to leave and we are pissed about it – nothing about that equates with failure.
by Will Shelton on Jan 13, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
Shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house
Congrats on the win against UGA. I lived in Tennessee for 20 years and can fully appreciate how difficult it is for a Vol fan to talk smack with so few teeth. I was going to keep silent about my disdain for the Vols and merely sympathize with a fan base having a difficult time. However, when you choose this time to lash out at people who are trying to sympathize, then you ultimitely bring it on yourself. Like Kyle posted earlier, 11 out of 12 SEC fans knew this guy’s true colors, but UT fans were blinded by the bling from Southern Cal. Very few Vol fans had the courage to stand up and call this guy what he was… overrated and over paid. To those that did, thanks and good luck next year. To those that jumped on the Lane Train and now are upset, I will still sympathize as a classy fan, but it is difficult for me to do so with a straight face. To those that use this opportunity to throw stones at other schools, HA HA HA, you are getting exactly what you deserve. To the Vol Nation, I hope you can grovel and beg a class act like Phil Fulmer to come back to your program in some capacity. Maybe even as AD, and he can replace Mike Hamilton, the idiot that fired him in the first place. Go Dawgs, and God Bless Mark Richt1
Except 10 of those 11 fans also had better class to not act like TKK and the rest of Dawg nation
As far as im concerned georgia fans are the dumps.
RIP Steve McNair (1973 - 2009) Retire #9!
by Pride of the Southland on Jan 13, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Don't want to ruin your day any more
Just like Bama over Texas in the Championship game, you never want to beat a team when they are down or have an excuse to lose. I sincerely hope you guys can rebuild quickly. It is always bittersweet to beat a Vols team that is down and out. Its even more disheartening to lose to a down and out Vols team. I hope you guys regain your swagger soon, and you kick the crap out of USC in a bowl next year. Always SEC over any other conference, good luck next year guys
Someone call the po' po' we've been swaggerjacked
RIP Steve McNair (1973 - 2009) Retire #9!
by Pride of the Southland on Jan 13, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
sour grapes then
sour grapes now.
georgia sucks. oh wait, you already covered that.
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Kiffin did live up to one promise
He never lost to UGA during his tenure on Rocky Top!
Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!
by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Too bad
But, he was a dice roll anyway. Better he leave now then run the program into the ground and bail. As it stands, you guys get a chance to bring in someone with fire and save your recruiting class. It is kind of short notice though . . .
Hate to have to pick a coach with just a few days. My suggestion, Boise State’s Peterson.
He knows how to beat Oregon, if nothing else
Definitely in a list of about five guys that I’d love to see step in but may not be inclined to leave their program. I am a little concerned when I see how Boise State’s last great coach fared at Colorado though.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 13, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
And he’s likely available if you want Hawkins . . .but Colorado had only hit and miss football prowess overall, all of it historical.
What Coach Pete has is community relations savvy, makes a team a family. Right now, Y’all might could use some of that.
You watch Boise prepare and their game plans, they always show up mentally. Hawkins is a guy who is a fire brand, Peterson is more laid back and knows when to fire them up. I think you would love him and I think he’d win, he preaches defense and has no fear on offense.
If you get a guy like Peterson though, and I think this hurt Hawkins, they inherit so much more more talent than they used to have so they might sit back and think “oh, that’s good talent” not knowing how much Florida or Alabama has, relatively, you know (complacency)? Not knowing they could get more if they went after it. Gotta give Kiffin props for recruiting balls.
Patterson, TCU, is also a good fit: Sound, sound defensive mind aligns nicely with the SEC and he can pick talent as well. He’s found a lotta nuggets that were leftovers elsewheres.
Peterson also has a fair eye for talent, and Tennessee is a far, far easier place to recruit to than Colorado football wise, hell sports wise in general. Colordo doesn’t have any teams of note I don’t think. Their NCS was 1990 and it was split wasn’t it(?), their division championships all when the North Division of the Big Twelve was sucking enormously. It’s a program that has all their glory years at least 20 years behind them; prior to McCartney they were huge in like the 1920s-1940s. Tennessee needs a kickstart, Colorado an entire revamping of their football culture.
Good luck mates, sincerely, I know this is hurtful and I feel for you.
The key was that Petersen was Hawkins's offensive coordinator.
And in Hawk’s day, Boise was offense first, offense only. Now they’re balanced. Petersen would project to be a great hire, so long as he surrounds himself with southern recruiters.
by David Hooper on Jan 13, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
He'd probably be my #2 choice after Muschamp
Patterson would be 2.a (or maybe just #3). After that is Calhoun, Whittingham, Petrino, Mullen, somebody or other in no particular order. Just not Leach or a retread.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 13, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Now that I think about it
I guess Leach IS a retread.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 13, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Leach can be a dick too . . .
Want more of that? A guy with a chip on his shoulder?
Time to bring in the fatherly figure who brings the community together and gets buy in for his program.
I don't think we can steal Mullen after what has just happened to us
by golfballs03 on Jan 13, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know how many names on that list would actually say yes
Just that that’s the list. Unless you’re referring to it being unethical to try to steal someone who’s only been on the job one year.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 13, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Let's all get together and steal each other's coaches
Good Lord, what a crazy Silly Season this is shaping up to be!
Let’s get Mike Leach and his pirate fetish?
Let’s get Mike Gundy and his “I’m a man! I’m forty!”.
Let’s get Jim Mora and “Playoffs? PLAYoffs?”.
Or should we try to get Bobby Bowden?
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!
by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 10:46 AM EST reply actions
i believe the word you are searching for
is “cheating”
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