WBIR: Cutcliffe to Tennessee (or not)
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jan 14, 2010 4:17 PM EST
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PrintWBIR is reporting that Cutcliffe is returning to Tennessee to take the head coaching position vacated by Lane Kiffin. More as it develops.
[Note by Joel, 01/14/10 4:33 PM EST ] And as it develops, it gets foggier still. That same link now concedes conflicting reports, so hold your horses.
[Note by Will, 01/14/10 4:50 PM EST] Brent Hubbs of VolQuest ($) is reporting that Cutcliffe has denied taking the job...this story continues to be in motion...
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golfballs03 is not Tyler Bray or his dad
Bray and his dad may be the happiest people in America about this hire
I'm on board
2 Mannings and a dramatic Ainge turnaround? Sure, I’ll buy in. Just as long as 3rd and Chavis stays in Baton Rouge.
Here we go again
Of course I’ll support Cutcliffe if he’s our coach, but seriously I do not want this.
a safe choice
and a bad one. fire mike hamilton. this is a disaster.
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so the net result
of firing fulmer was to drag the university through the mud, and then settle with a lesser coach of the exact same style. once i fix this broken storm window so i can open it, i will be jumping out of it.
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Fulmer will replace Hamilton.
Hamilton failed himself. I bet he’s out of a job now.
I would bet as soon as Cutcliffe is signed, the next announcement will be a new AD.
I would put money on that.
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by Pride of the Southland on Jan 14, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's a good decision.
Sorry Kippy but we’re not going to be the SEC school with the ex-XFL coach leading our program.
Look at the bright side...
… within a few years we should be able to get tickets at Pilot for free!
(So glad I stopped buying season tickets…)
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
This sucks
of course who knows if it is true?
Our QB position may look bright, but I think you can kiss any shot at a top 10 class goodbye.
I think with the position we were in
Letting Muschamp come here without the Texas/Georgia clause would be fine. Mack Brown isn’t going anywhere anytime soon and Mark Richt should turn the program around somewhat to keep his job.
i think we are just that desperate, that it might be worth the shot.
plus, he might get here and love it
You are right about the class getting ruined on Tuesday night
I just think that with Cut back, we are going to be a middle of the road SEC team until he leaves, thus setting us back even further. I do not see how this hire is positive to the future of our program. Yes damage control will be good, and traditions will be preserved, however I think a hot up and coming coordinator or HC at another school would be able to turn us around in a few years.
Any chance
we can get Trooper Taylor back in some form? I thought he never should have been let go.
(yes yes, I know I posted this under another topic, but now that this is news I doubt anyone will be able to answer)
Chris Low says not a done deal yet.
Cautions against jumping the gun on Cutcliffe. Says there are other alternatives out there UT is looking at.
Didnt Hamilton
say that they werent going to rush into anything (though time was of the essence)?
This seems like rushed to me, though Im not necessarily against it.
please please please please please please please please please please please please please
please please please please please please please please please please please please please
Now, now
Nothing’s official. Per WBIR’s most recent note:
There are some conflicting reports—some 10News sources are indicating they don’t think it’s a done deal.
Horrible Move
Fire Mike Hamilton! He obviously can’t get the job done. I was fine with Calhoun, Edsall, Whittingham, but I am not fine with going back to the good ole boy days!
University of Tennessee football is headed into obscurity if this is true
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Greetings all.
Just moved to western New York, so I joined up to keep up with my TN happenings. Crazy time to join.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
No sir. It's Ken.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
That is too funny.
Looks like I one-upped you in the N department.
Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a s#!t about the rules?!?
Heh
I’m sure we can keep you two straight. But if either of you ever wants to change, we can do that through a support request. But like I said, it’s only an option, and not something either of you needs to do.
Rocky Top Talk
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jan 14, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think, realistically, this is the best play on the table
we’ll do numbers later, but everything he’s ever done at Tennessee has been positive
by Will Shelton on Jan 14, 2010 4:34 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Yes Rec'd Thank you
everything he’s ever done at Tennessee has been positive
Thats what we need to remember
by Getoffmyvols on Jan 14, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
My initial reaction is that I agree
I understand the feeling of slipping back to what we know, I mean, we had Fulmer, and Cutcliffe worked for Fulmer, and then we fired Fulmer and are now hiring his second in command.
But still, Cutcliffe was solid. I still remember that opening game in . . . 2007? . . . when he first returned as OC? Against Cal? We had been starving for offense and on that day we gorged.
Rocky Top Talk
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jan 14, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
In a way I think your right
I am not against it but I dont know that Im for it just yet either. It seems rushed and it seems like falling back into the oldschool we were trying to avoid (he types as he looks to the right at the tradition youtube).
That said, he has almost always been a positive. Even at Mississippi he was better than he got credit for. Duke was outstanding last season (hey…its duke football, its not like you have a lot to work with).
In short, Im torn…
Torn is more than understandable
because until September rolls around, we won’t know anything tangible, and that will be true for anyone.
Whoever the coach is will have our support when all is said and done, even if people are worried this might reopen The Fulmer Divide
by Will Shelton on Jan 14, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully all the neuveau fair-weather fans who think this is a bad hire
will be so disgusted by this they’ll just leave. It’s their fault we had Kiffin in the first place. Im sick of it.
We were showing improvement
In discipline, on the field and in recruiting. Kiffin was gonna get us there. It was just a matter of time.
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Given his and Ed's actions over the past few days
The only place they were leading us was into NCAA sanctioned hell. I was able to fool myself while he was here, but no longer.
Give me a break
Oh well, looks like you Fulmerites may get what you wish for.
7 and 5. 7 and 5. 7 and 5. 7 and 5.
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Ok here's the bottom line---
While Cutcliffe was in Tennessee the Vols were winning. Clutcliffe leaves not so much. Comes back, well u get the picture. I can’t say I’m sold on the idea either but you can’t argue with success. So who says the third time isn’t the charm? At least we get a good QB and eventually everything will pan out. Not a splash BUT almost guaranteed not to slither off to USC.LOL
I am not a "neuveau fair-weather fan"
And this would be a horrible idea.
I would rather rehire Fulmer.
Or just keep Kippy as HC. At least we don’t know what he can do.
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boo fairweather fans
I’ll show up regardless. Bozo the Clown could coach the team and I will still show up
So wait...
…Bozo the Clown hasn’t been coaching this team the past 14 months?
I’m so confused
Why would you want the TV and the stereo on at the same time?
'Cause I like to party.
by Zach Towery on Jan 14, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am in the same boat as gramsey
I have bled orange for all 32 years of my life, and I do not like this hire. Change can be a good thing, even though Kiffin was a pice of S^#T, and failed us. Going back to the same ole same ole which has not worked in some time is not he answer in MHO. I believe we need structure and tradition, but we also need some new blood and excitement, or we will wind up always being 3rd or 4th best in the SEC.
As OC
Nobody said he can’t coach a quarterback or coordinate an offense.
And I am sure he can recruit a quarterback. But we need more than that.
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Name the last head coach who you think has integrity who won a National Championship.
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And he could not discipline his players
Or recruit.
At least Kiffin could discipline his players.
Next?
And the obvious answer is Mack Brown. And he would be awesome, btw. But he obviously is not going anywhere.
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All I did
was answer the question you posed. Im not suggestion they rehire him but he did have a title and integrity.
Yeah, sorry
I was arguing about integrity and that is not what I was meaning.
It’s not an integrity issue. It’s a bend-the-rules a little issue that I was thinking.
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lol
You have a point, sir!
Rocky Top Talk
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jan 14, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
You knuckleheads haven't a clue! Check his record at UT! GREAT CHOICE!
Now that I’ve got your attention, please check the Vols record during his tenure at TN and then check those times before, in between, and after. He’s a great choice for us. He’s THE reason we won a national title in ’98.
by alencosoft on Jan 14, 2010 4:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
But
He was a coordinator not the coach. If you take a look at his record as head coach (more applicable), you will see that he is nothing more than mediocre.
Bad Hire!
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He won at Ole Miss and Duke.
Not exactly powerhouses. With UT’s facilities, etc. who’s to say hwo’ll he do? And he’ll be here as long as we want/need him, rather than bolting to USC/Texas/Notre Dame/wherever.
53-44, 3 losing seasons - Not impressive at all
When you play it safe, you get mediocrity
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He took ole miss
to four bowls in six years, which is the best record since the 60s. As for Duke, its Duke. Winning more than a game or two is considered success there.
check his record as a head coach
Duke (4-8, 5-7) Ole Miss, I’ll be kind and say an AVERAGE of 7 wins a season during his six years there (his last season was 4-7.) This will wrap Tennessee in a nice warm blanket of mediocrity for another ten years. And if Cutcliffe learned anything from Fulmer he is probably negotiating himself a LONG-TERM contract with a HUGE penalty to prevent UT from terminating him after 3 seasons of MORAL VICTORIES. But then again, UT doesn’t fire mediocre coaches. They embrace them, because they’re part of the family. Go vols.
check the schools at which he earned that record
Ole miss was not good before he got there, and then he was at Duke. The last person to win at Duke was Spurrier.
Why would you want the TV and the stereo on at the same time?
'Cause I like to party.
they did win
back-to-back conference games for the first time since Stevey was there (that may be a slight exaggeration)
Why would you want the TV and the stereo on at the same time?
'Cause I like to party.
GSU you say check the schools record before he got there
Is it not the coaches job to make that school better? the records vol95 shows are not very good no matter what they were the previous year
Ole Miss
was not that bad when Cutcliffe got there. Tuberville left some recruits and was coming off 2 straight bowl wins. He left the program in worse shape than he found it.
by OxfordAndrew on Jan 14, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
That is kind of my point
YES he was great, was being the key word. But come on 98 was a looooong time ago. Just because it worked then in this ever evolving game does not mean it will repeat itself. Also our recruting was better in those days, the last few years with Phil (who I do like) our recruting class was average at best when you are shooting for a NC. I do not see how he can right our ship. Maybe with some good coordinators and position coaches it can be done, but I guess I am still not sold as of yet.
I say one more time for the record I hope I am wrong and he makes me eat my words. Bottom line I will support to the fullest whomever the coach may be. Go Vols
This probably needs a "yet" in there somewhere...
by Will Shelton on Jan 14, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
He has denied the report is true
It doesn’t say he has refused an offer.
by Getoffmyvols on Jan 14, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
or an inspirational desk calendar
I’m looking for wisdom that applies to anxiety and finding the right head coach
everyone shut up, i think he's trying to tell us something
Move out of your comfort zone,, you can only grow if your willing to feel awkward and uncomfortable a lil bit!
Shula bridged the gap between Price and Saban
We need to reconcile ourselves to the fact that despite what we may think, the college football coaching community obviously does not look at this as a primo job. Plus, we’re coach shopping at the absolute worst time of year.
Then just give the job to Kippy
If we are gonna go that route, give it to someone who is unproven as a HC, but has NFL experience. If we are to just assume we are bridging the gap until Peyton retires.
(and I know you are on the Kippy Train dan!)
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Yea
There is no one available/willing who is going to bring instant success that were going to get by Friday.
by Getoffmyvols on Jan 14, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
A good choice
How could he not be. Put the best QB ever in the NFL and his bro. Turned Duke into something other then a punching bag. And of course Tennessee’s record with Cutcliffe as OC and QB coach 109-27 and a NT and 3 SECC. NOT BAD AT ALL!
by Alazar on Jan 14, 2010 5:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Update from GVX
No agreement with Cutcliffe, no announcement coming today.
http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2010/jan/14/source-cutcliffe-has-not-been-hired-ut/
ESPN
Reporting Coach O did officially make contact with Tennessee Recruits (I think they are a little behind on this one, eh?)
Can we hire Tom Cable? heh
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football." John Heisman
Kiffin was on Cowherd, and said Coach O was just helping them out by explaining the rules regarding being locked in. Said the kids were asking about whether they should go to class, and he didn’t try to sway them either way. I’m sure you guys will buy that… not.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4825513
click on the podcast if u want to hear it.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
man..
i love we can now hate him together….what took you guys so long ;)
Land Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....
If we can’t get along, at least we can hate together.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
enemy of enemy and all that
But what if your arch-enemy is your other arch-enemy’s arch-enemy?
Enema
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
The SEC....
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 14, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Brent Hubbs is on SportsTalk in Knoxville right now
says it’s premature to call Cutcliffe to Knoxville
Cutcliffe's health
I thought Cutcliffe was in bad health and that’s why he didn’t take a head coaching job a few years back. Is he all better now because this is going to be high stress!
He stepped down from an assistant coach position at Notre Dame with Weis
to deal with cardiac issues, also lost weight, etc.
by Will Shelton on Jan 14, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
The list of names that Wes Rucker has said the Vols have talked to isn't as extensive as I thought...
no Gruden, Wittingam, Patterson, or Mendenhall
Gruden was never a possibility, IMO.
Nor would we want him. He’d be a terrible fit for the college game.
As a TOTAL and complete aside: today is now our second-best traffic day ever.
Second only to yesterday. So far, it’s our best month ever, too. But I’m pretty sure I speak for all three of us when I say that I’d rather trade all that for a reset on this whole thing.
Am I the only one thinking Bill Cowher?
Two games left to get an 9 yard INT return. Kome on Monte, let the man roam!
No. But I don't know if anybody thinks that Hamilton is looking in that direction.
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
I think maybe he should. Doesn't his daughter attend UT?
"Black as all I feel. So this is how it feels to be freee." - AIC
fulmer and cutcliffe are class acts
do we really think they are going to conspire to do what kiffin just did to us? technically, it would be worse because it’s even closer to signing day.
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i notice people are avoiding
the 800 pound gorilla in the room, but seriously, it would be more than a tad hypocritical, no?
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as a Bama fan
i know how y’all are feeling right now. and i know it doesn’t seem this way, but y’all dodged a bullet. you just lopped off a cancerous limb before it had a chance to matastacize. if you’re lucky, y’all wil get a good coach now, but you might have to settle for a shula/cutcliffe caretaker for a season or two.
either way kiffin was a jackass and y’all were headed for probabtion and being left coachless as soon as he got a better offer anyways. now y’all have a chance to regroup before the whole program has gone off th erails.
USC will rue the day they made this hire. they will be mired in sanctions and suckdome for years.
also, y’all should go after chris peterson. the guy is the winningest coach of this millenium.
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
best tweet so far
If UT hires Cutcliffe, isn’t that like divorcing ur husband and marrying his brother?
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by hal41605 on Jan 14, 2010 5:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
heh.
I have a completely different analogy, but I’m saving it for an actual hiring announcement.
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
oddly enough, it would provide a small measure of comfort to the non-Cutcliffe group.
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
if Cut turns out to not be the guy, remind me and I can explain it to you. But I don't want to give it away right now.
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
language, bro. ;-)
Rec’d
That is some funny [FULMERIZED]
by bullrider73 on Jan 14, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Its not that I'm totally against Cutcliffe
or want Calhoun, but am I the only one that is embarrassed that we just got (reportedly) turned down by the Air Force coach. I mean we are TENNESSEE, a top 15 program and we have already been turned down twice. I don’t really see a great fit out there anywhere, so the thought of Cutcliffe coming doesn’t anger me, but this is just really embarrassing that we are getting publicly denied like this.
It's simple Cubs in the spring and summer, Vols in the fall and winter.
Maybe. I understand where you're coming from, but it's not necessarily a bad rejection.
He gets $1.5 mil at USAFA and is pretty well guaranteed longevity there. He’s also a USAFA guy, which is similar to us when we hired Fulmer as a UT guy. Granted, the 1.5 isn’t as much as what UT would offer, but it’s a nice check at any rate, and happiness is worth something too. Especially if his family likes it there.
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
i got the answer
truckload of cash on chris peterson’s lawn
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by tempebamafan on Jan 14, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Petersen would be intriguing.
I’m really torn on that one, though. I want the MWC conference to admit Boise and make a run at AQ. (I’m from out that way.) There’s a serious conflict of interest with me on that one.
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
They keep saying on Sportalk in Chattanooga
That one of Peterson’s children has a health issue and one of the best specialists in the world for that particular issue is in Boise. So he has said he is not going anywhere.
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makes sense
i keep hearing from guys like OTS (RBR editor, he knows his stuff) that peterson is supposedly locked in at BSU and he’s not going anywhere… i find it hard to believe he could resist the temptation of a major SEC school and boat load of cash, but that is the sotra thing that would do it.
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
by tempebamafan on Jan 14, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
He’s in a real position to make it into the BCS championship next year. No way he leave now.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
maybe
he’d still get screwed if a big 12 or pac 10 or big 10 team goes undefeated and there’s also a 1 loss SEC champ. 2 game sagainst BCS schools looks good now, but by next november everyone will be trying to put oregon or ohio st or oklahoma in it over them. and again, 0 or 1 loss SEC team gets #1 seed by default.
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by tempebamafan on Jan 14, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
I don't feel so bad about Calhoun
Remember, he is an Air Force alum. So you would have to give him the keys to the vault, I am sure, and that might not even work.
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well what would be worse?
Coach Cut as TN HC or Coach Cut reject us? Coach Cut as HC and KBrown as OC would be pretty interesting to watch. Especially w/ Tyler Bray….
Ahh... screw it
Give the dang job to Kippy. How bad kould it possibly be?
"Black as all I feel. So this is how it feels to be freee." - AIC
Don't get me wrong
I’m not against Cutcliffe coming, I just think this is embarrassing that we keep getting denied.
It's simple Cubs in the spring and summer, Vols in the fall and winter.
oh, agreed.
And I’m not disagreeing with you either. Just offering counterpoints to think about.
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Bill Cowher is not coming here.
Nor are any big name, Super Bowl-champion coaches. Cowher will wait for the right NFL gig and sign for 5+ mil per season.
Cannons... fire them.
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by Craig T on Jan 14, 2010 5:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
What does everyone
think the odds of Hamilton getting fired are.
It's simple Cubs in the spring and summer, Vols in the fall and winter.
I don't think they're very high right now, honestly.
I reserve the right to change my mind depending on the hire, but Kiffin’s departure absolutely cannot be held against him. The tough spot that he’s in is entirely Kiffin’s fault; it’s a matter of how he handles things.
by David Hooper on Jan 14, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
You want to fire a guy b/c his coach took his dream job? Don’t see that happening.
Yeah I agree
but so far this coaching search hasn’t gone too well. I think you combine that with the possible NCAA violations, football and basketball arrests, and basically no buyout for Kiffin and you have a potential for change
It's simple Cubs in the spring and summer, Vols in the fall and winter.
Well, I'm off to the basketball game. We have a double deal tonight with both teams playing at once.
I won’t be in the live thread, but there will most definitely be one. And there’s be something else to talk about, even. With both teams expected to win today, there should be some good news to enjoy for a while.
And for any of the (many) new people around here, feel free to join the live thread. They’re a lot of fun, and the more the merrier. Sign up for an account if you haven’t already!
Ciao.
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Hearing Lovie Smith could be coming to Tennessee
Can
I just say this………..I love coach Cut. He is was not my choice for UT and I think that is because Kiffin was so sexy to me. Young and vibrant. Sassy. All that good stuff. Cut is old school……..Phil Fulmer. Right now though after getting burned by that sexy thing………I am ready for stability. I am ready for someone to love UT football and to hold it dear. He really did alot of great thngs for Duke football and I think some are forgetting that. I am ready to embrace it and hope five years down the road we will have a man named Manning coaching UT :)
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