Report: David Cutcliffe to stay at Duke
by Will on Jan 15, 2010 9:12 AM EST
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Copied and pasted from news on Will Muschamp and Troy Calhoun...
Volquest ($) and The Sports Animal are among others reporting that David Cutcliffe has elected to stay at Duke this morning. It is believed that this makes Tennessee 0-3 on their primary options, and the search now continues. It is also believed that one of the factors that caused problems between Cutcliffe and the Vols was Cutcliffe's desire to bring his entire assistant coaching staff with him from Durham; Cutcliffe was loyal to his assistants at Ole Miss in what many believe was a move that led to his removal in Oxford after one losing season.
So...
Kippy Brown becomes a very real safety net; Mike Hamilton, who is feeling increased pressure by the hour, stated earlier that he wanted to have someone in place as early as today and no later than Sunday. The Vols will have a handful of recruits in this weekend, and while Bruce Pearl and Pat Summitt are assisting with the weekend, Tennessee needs a football coach. And of course, Tennessee needs the right football coach...and it's clearly become very difficult to make the right guy happen in four days.
The collection of names that were being talked about the most late last night were Kyle Whittingham (Utah), Randy Edsall (UConn), Kevin Sumlin (Houston), and Derrick Dooley (Louisiana Tech). There's some noise on Lovie Smith (ex-Vol assistant) of the Bears this morning, but nothing substantial.
And so we wait. And we hope.
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I'm surprised Cutcliffe turned us down
I figured UT would be his dream job that he would bend over backwards for.
Me too. What in the world is in the water at UT ? Duke over TN. WOW
Dan Willmams and Hardesty are the real deal ! Go Vols !
I don't blame Cutcliffe
and I’m not that surprised. He’s at an age now, there are somethings that are more important in life. I think he and his family are happy at Duke and they’re pretty entrenched over there. Plus with his health issues, I think Duke is a much better place for him. I’m glad that he realized that he a much better fit at Duke than at Tennessee right now. Let’s not kid ourselves.
by golfballs03 on Jan 15, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
This coaching debacle
Beginning with Kiffin’s departure and whoever we finally hire is gonna make somebody a lot of money when they write the book.
Great drama
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
This coaching debacle
has its roots in firing Fulmer – JMHO.
As a UGA & SEC fan I hope you guys find the right fit.
It has gotten to the point where I would SLOW down – stop worrying about the recruiting class and find the right guy. It’s easier to make up for one substandard class than it is to fix another bad coaching hire.
Anyway good luck!
Great point
We need to make the RIGHT hire, not the right now (!!!) hire.
So Sayth King Zach I
by kingofzachland on Jan 15, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not all that upset tbh
If Cut was gonna stick his guns and only have his staff, than Hammy did the right thing by standing his own ground. I said it yesterday and I’ll repeat: Cut would be successful at UT, but only with a marquee DC and recruiters like Trooper/Garner around, not Kurt Roper.
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Whittingham, plz.
Cannons... fire them.
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by Craig T on Jan 15, 2010 9:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Could you imagine the grief
Florida fans would throw our way if we tired to hire a Meyer 2.0? Especially if he was unsuccessful? Not saying that should preclude us from hiring him (I honestly don’t know much of his credentials other then he coached under Meyer and beat Bama in the Sugar Bowl last year) but man, I might have to avoid my Florida friends for the time being…
Neyland Stadium-It goes to eleven.
Personally
I’d rather have Brown as a 1 year stop gap than Cutcliffe for anything long term.
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver
by Smokin Turkeys on Jan 15, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
I figured get Cutcliff for some stability in the time being
then let him groom an up and comer a la a coach in waiting scenario. At the least we know our Offense and Bray would be ballin’. Then in a few years he would cede the HC spot to the new guy…
Neyland Stadium-It goes to eleven.
absolutley
me too. And who knows, maybe Kippy would really work out! But sacrificing one year is infinitely better than risking a multi-year debacle with another coach.
by golfballs03 on Jan 15, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
And as he's said over and over
He recruited and brought in Peerless Price.
Derrik Dooley...
Is a great sleeper candidate for you guys, I think. He’s the son of a coaching legend, but unlike somebody I can think of, he’s never tried to get things handed to him on a silver platter just because of his name.
He’s run a clean program, has been respectful, and his players love him. He knows the SEC east well because of his aforementioned father.
Just to be clear, this isn’t a “Bama fan wants ya’ll to have a coach I think we can beat” thing. I honestly think Dooley would be a great choice. I think he’d be an outstanding hire for any program, and in the unfortunate position that the vols are currently in, he may be the best option out there.
You know it’s really bad when even your rival fans are pissed off for you. Screw you, Lane Kiffin.
"You have to create six seconds of hell, every time the ball is snapped..."
-Nick Saban
you know we are naturally skeptical about rival fans and their opinions on coaching
but after the Lane Kiffin debacle……..
by golfballs03 on Jan 15, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Totally understandable...
But as I said in another thread, a lot of us Bana fans are thinking back to how we felt not that many years ago when coach Fran stabbed us in the back and bailed for Texas A&M. It is a miserable feeling. Rivalry aside for the moment, knowing that you all are as passionate about your Vols as I am about my Crimson Tide, I genuinely hate to see you experiencing this, especially when so many of you defended Kiffin and stuck with him through all of his mouthing off. It’s betrayal of the worst kind, and as someone who loves and respects the game of college football, it what Kiffin did sickens me, even if the victim is one of my school’s biggest rivals.
Rivalries aren’t as much fun when one school is in a weakend state.
As for the concern about Dooly’s record…he’s a much better coach than his record indicates. He is having to recruit against LSU and other SEC powerhouses, and he had a tough rebuilding job to do when he took over that program. I really believe he’d do well at UT, and would represent the school with class.
"You have to create six seconds of hell, every time the ball is snapped..."
-Nick Saban
by KongAtTheGates on Jan 15, 2010 10:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just want to say thanks
First time poster, long time lurker here. Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for the support from you and many other rival fans here and on other sites I’ve seen. It would be so easy to be giving us a hard time right now about this situation. I have seen many do that but it seems that most of the comments I’ve read from rival fans have been very classy. My opinion isn’t worth much but I just wanted to say thanks, that’s all.
In Louisiana it's kind of the received wisdom that Derek Dooley will one day be LSU's coach
But in my opinion he’s a lot more sizzle than steak at this point. I also don’t think UT will touch him with a ten foot clown pole, because the parallels between Dooley Jr. and Kiffins Jr. are far too close for comfort (although Kiffins is obviously far far more of a jerk)
by 4.0 Point Stance on Jan 15, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Heck, can we hire the Utah AD?
They seem to keep hitting home runs on their head coaches this decade.
Cannons... fire them.
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by Craig T on Jan 15, 2010 9:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions
no you cant have our AD
Nor coach whittingham. Seriously this search is becoming a joke. Tennessee can not be taking their time here.
by Jeremy Mauss on Jan 15, 2010 10:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
UT isn't taking its time.
But who’s going to leave their school this close to NSD after promising all those recruits that they’d be coaching next year? Except for Kiffin?
Easier to get a hot assistant coach.
Malzahn man. I’ve been saying him all along.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
seriously.
We are looking for another Kiffin – someone to abandon their team in this late hour. That’s why I think our chances would be best with a OC or DC somewhere in college, or a pro guy (please Lovie Smith, please) – however, the rumor is that Randy Edsall actually contacted Hamilton himself about the job – so it looks like he might be one that would be willing to leave. Honestly, I might be more inclined to offer a short term deal to Kippy and see how he works out, and still have the possibility to go after a big name next year
by golfballs03 on Jan 15, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
After what he did to SoCar
he probably thought, hey, this SEC thing aint’ too hard…
"Hollywood made a movie of my life. The film had me proposing to my wife on the football field. I would never misuse a football field that way." -Crazy Legs Hirsch
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 15, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe, maybe not
But I wouldve looked at Whittingham first thing if I was Mike Hamilton.
Cannons... fire them.
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by Craig T on Jan 15, 2010 10:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hamilton
How soon before Hamilton is gone?
www.flanekiffin.com
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BREAKING NEWS: I just heard from sources inside the athletic department that Norm Chow has agreed in principle to be the next head coach at Tennessee! His successful schemes will help UT draw back in the recruits needed to beat Florida and Alabama. He even has Tennessee ties from wanting to show up and ultimately destroy Lane Kiffin.
The contract will be for 13 million for 31 years. The buyout if he leaves Tennessee is $3.50. The buyout if we fire him is another TARP bailout by Uncle Obama. Coach Chow will keep the current staff on board at least through signing day, and is believed to want to keep them beyond that time.
Welcome to Tennessee, CNC!
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
funny
Tony Basilio is reporting a “big booster” who donates “hundreds of thousands a year” is saying he knows it will definitely be Lovie Smith and will be reported today.
Does this guy have a good track record? I hadn’t read his site before this chaos started.
Thank you very little.
by pound the rock on Jan 15, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
Basilio is sensationalistic
He’s had a source for every candidate having the job for the last two days.
But at this point, nothing would surprise me
he really is
but he is non-comittal so he can always go back and say that he never confirmed anything, but just what a reliable source reported
by golfballs03 on Jan 15, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
A buyout of only $Tree-fiddy?
Somewhere the Loch Ness Monster is smiling…
Neyland Stadium-It goes to eleven.
Just be careful
You don’t want your AD to panic like Mitch Barnhart and hire a Billy Gillispie……
First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...
Why not Kippy ??
At this point , cut your losses and look at what you have on hand . A desperation hire is the last thing needed now . Kippy has the nucleus of a really good staff , fill in the pieces and move on . We have kids on campus today and if this bumbling continues through the weekend who knows ??
If Kippy gets it, look for this year to work on a Memorandum of Understanding rather than a contract.
Nothing against Kippy at all, but I do get the sense that his candidacy is more out of love for the program rather than an actual intrinsic desire to be the head coach. He strikes me as a bit more comfortable in an assistant role, but willing to take the reins so that Hamilton could do a proper coaching search at a reasonable time.
The timing of this whole thing is as bad as possible, and that’s what’s making it so difficult. Hamilton is really handcuffed on this one.
yup,
we do need a coach but in so doing we will just be putting another fanbase through what we are now experiencing (with some differences obviously). Shame that this has become the nature of the game…
Neyland Stadium-It goes to eleven.
Doesn't have to be
Tenn would look a lot better if they rode with Kippy and spin it by saying they didn’t want to be a headhunting USC of the South after all.
If a new search was timied around November like the Kiffin search was, things would be far smoother.
And remember, that one took a while. But Hamilton had time to go through the proper work. And if it weren’t for this one decision by Lane, we’d still be fully on-board with him right now and dreaming of a top 3 recruiting class.
Good for Cutcliffe. I respect him
if he was loyal to his staff. Hamilton is going to run into this issue with every coach he looks at except for one…the current head coach he has now. How can a man be a professional offensive coordinator and still only get treated like a WR coach in the college ranks? Give him a chance to work on these current recruits. They’ll probably run anyway regardless of coach. He’s comfortable with the current staff so costs won’t be an issue. Good Lord, people. You want someone to uphold tradition. He’s already in the chair.
by ChattVol on Jan 15, 2010 10:02 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm glad Cut is out
I feel better about Kippy than Cut. Yeah, Cut can coach the QBs, but he can’t recruit worth a lick. Kippy can. I’d rather have a good position coach who’s unproven as a head coach than a former head coach whose recruiting drawbacks put him consistently at 7-5.
Please, please, please Edsall. He’s been my choice ever since Muschamp turned us down, and it seems like he’s actually in the mix now. There are plenty of other names that I’d rather see before Cutcliffe though. I wouldn’t mind if the Lovie Smith rumors were true (although he may bolt back to the NFL). Who knows?
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 10:29 AM EST reply actions
On second thought
I do have one problem with Edsall. He does a lot with not much talent, and he sends a lot of them to the NFL, but UConn is currently ranked dead last in the Big East in recruiting (#71 overall). Sure, it means he’s doing more with less, but I wonder if it means he has a recruiting deficiency like Cut. Who knows at this point.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Makes sense though, for reasons unrelated to Edsall
Schiano has Miami ties, USF is in Florida, WVU is a name, Louisville has a recruiting base, Syracuse has a proud history, Cincy is the new juggernaut (and has a recruiting base), and Pitt is Pitt.
UConn are 1-A newbies, with no sustained success or past glory or big time facilities, trying to get kids to play in Storrs in a very conservative system.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 15, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
You do make a good point there
I didn’t even think about other Big East teams actually having recruiting draws.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
He's a defensive guy
Take the cuffs off Chaney and see what happens. But still, I don’t want to do to others what has been done to us. If we have to have someone before Sunday, make it Kippy or a coordinator. If we can suck it up and wait a year, I’d feel better.
So Al Golden is a name I'm just seeing recently
But he looks like he could be a good choice. Turner Gill 2.0?
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 10:45 AM EST reply actions
No.
He beat us as a player in the Fiesta Bowl as a player. Only kidding. He lost to UCLA this year. So there’s a connection. He’s done some good things at Temple, but he coached against a soft schedule this year. Who knows. I don’t want to hire anyone this close to NSD. Just me.
He also had a lot of success as a coordinator
And has set Temple records for most wins in a season two years in a row. And we don’t have much choice but to hire someone this close to NSD.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
We have a choice
Roll with what you have in house. Besides, we had a 5-7 coach in 2008 and fired him.
5-7 was our winningest season of all time
And we didn’t have a prayer of going 9-3 the next year.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
good point
but Temple didn’t play the two #1 teams in the country this past year either. I like the guy’s pedigree, but I think there’s someone else out there. JMO
My choice is still Edsall
And I sure wouldn’t mind Lovie. But of all the names that are still floating around, Golden is my #3 choice. Kippy is my #4. #5 is Dooley, #6 is Cut.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Whittingham
Has become my #1, Dooley and Kip aren’t even on my list for a variety of reasons. We need to make this hire work long term. Period.
So Sayth King Zach I
by kingofzachland on Jan 15, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not counting Whittingham as a name that's floating around
Because I haven’t heard any rumors that are even close to substantial about him. There are five names that are still legitimately in play: Edsall, Lovie, Golden, Kippy, and Dooley. I’ve listed them in order of my ranking of them. I would love for Whittingham’s name to surface, but I won’t add him to my list unless there’s reason to believe we’re considering him.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
I thought Willingham was a Utah man through and through
with everything that implies. I just don’t see what UT can offer him that would make him jump from an established program that he has running the way he likes to a school in obvious turmoil, especially so close to signing day.
On second thought there is one thing UT can offer him.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Jan 15, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Just got a mobile text update from the Sports Animal:
Jimmy Hyams reporting that Derek Dooley from La Tech will be hired by UT. Take that for whatever its worth…
Neyland Stadium-It goes to eleven.
So that's what this job has came down to?
The man has a losing record as a coach and he’s going to be the next coach of UT?
by crazylegs28 on Jan 15, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
You know, there are some losing records I'd be fine with
Al Golden is 19-29, but he’s coaching at Temple and has improved each year, starting 1-11 and moving to 9-3 this year.
But Derek Dooley has a worse winning percentage than the coach who preceded him at LT.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Also
Kippy Brown does not have a losing record as a head coach (5-5).
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Jimmy Hyams is a moron
I listened to his show yesterday, and he said Calhoun would never fit at UT because he doesn’t know how to run a non-option offense. Can you do even a modicum of research?
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Hyams is more consistently right over the past 15 years than any other sports media person in town
If he says it, I tend to believe it.
And come to think of it
the caller said something about him running the option here, and Hyams said he only runs it at AF because he’s limited in what kind of players he has.
Unless there's another Jimmy
(which is possible, because I’ve only listened to The Sports Animal once), then he said that Calhoun runs the option and wouldn’t know how to do anything else. If there’s another Jimmy who’s the moron, I apologize to Jimmy Hyams.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
CHATTANOOGA (WRCB) – According to WNML-FM in Knoxville, Derek Dooley will be named the head football coach of the Tennessee Vols.
What we've become
Suddenly, we’ve become the geek who is left three days before prom without a date. Our steady girlfriend has dumped us, and we had to ask the fat, unpopular girl with pock-marked face as a last resort.
So Sayth King Zach I
I'm just going to repeat what other people have said
Wes Rucker says he isn’t ready to confirm, but he’s been told it’s Dooley.
http://twitter.com/wesrucker
It’s also on Dooley’s Wikipedia page, which we all know to be gospel truth!
Ugh...
It’s on espn too
So Sayth King Zach I
by kingofzachland on Jan 15, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
If we get him
we better set his buyout at a hundred million dollars if the hiring university’s initials are UGA.
Did we even give Kippy a chance?
Announcing someone else 20 minutes after his interview was scheduled to start would seem to indicate that we never took him seriously. I wonder how Kippy feels about that.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 15, 2010 1:25 PM EST reply actions
I was thinking the same thing
I guess we ARE a basketball school now.
So Sayth King Zach I
by kingofzachland on Jan 15, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
He has better qualifications than Kiffin did.
I want him to get me excited during his press conference. Maybe I will be on board then.
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Oh man, it's gonna take me a while to be ok with this
Would much rather have had Cutcliffe, but would even have preferred Kippy Brown. Oh man. This is scary.
Per Wes Rucker
The best Twitter play-by-play man this side of Swiperboy.
“I still don’t think Dooley has an official offer. Might be inevitable, but I don’t think it’s happened yet.”
As long as Chaney is our OC and Lance Thompson is our DC who cares who our HC is. Build a great staff with a great eye for talent and lets play FOOTBALL
Word. Especially on Chaney.
I heart him. Big time. In that man-to-man sort of way that I’m not ashamed to admit.
Kiffin Coming Back......Nah
Trodge say Kiffin is a bad dude…..check it out http://siliconangle.com/travisrodgersnow/2010/01/14/day-one-of-the-kiffin-era-usc/
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