Former babysitter endorses Derek Dooley
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jan 25, 2010 7:00 AM EST
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- Oh, look: Another nostalgia piece on Derek Dooley's formative years, including a glowing report from his former baby-sitter. Really. As weird as that is, it does seem like he's made a positive impression on everyone with which he's come into contact, which is great.
- Tight end Mychal Rivera (3-star Rivals, 3-star Scout) has Tennessee as his leader. He visited this weekend and says that he plans to let Precious know his intentions by Wednesday.
- Offensive lineman (4-star Rivals, 3-star Scout) enjoyed his visit to Tennessee this weekend but is "Still fully committed to DA VILLE." That would be Louis, not Knox.
- Dave Hooker notes that the de-commitment toll is up to seven, but also says that Dooley's approach of focusing more on finding diamonds in the 3-star rough is what most coaches would do under the horrible circumstances, try to hit several solid doubles and triples rather than spend all of his time trying to hit home runs.
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The Saints have more former Vols than the Colts. So cheer for the Saints, Vol fans!
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My seething, blinding hate for the Colts will not allow me to cheer for Peyton.
I hate it, but I can’t help it.
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i wonder what jersey jeff fisher will be sporting in 2 weeks
by golfballs03 on Jan 25, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
I'll be rooting for the Colts
…but I’m thrilled about the match-up! Great day for the South, and if the Colts have to face a team other than my Packers in the big game, I can’t think of another team I’d rather see. Oh, and here’s a BUMP to Favre (hopefully) ending his career on an INT. Perfect.
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by kingofzachland on Jan 25, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Favre has done that 3 times!
3 times, his last throw of the season, in the playoffs, has been an interception.
Awesome.
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I'd like to think...
that some New Orleans voodoo witch doctor put a curse on Favre that will cause him to end his career on a devastating interception. So far, so good.
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by kingofzachland on Jan 25, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
What, you're not going to welcome all those Colts fans looking for a new home when Peyton retires?
I’m passionately against Indy in the regular season, but at this point I can’t help myself. I do feel bad though – Meachem is great and Jabari Greer is hilarious, but 95% of UT fans will be pissed if New Orleans wins.
by Will Shelton on Jan 25, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
When Manning retires, we'll all cheer for Eric Berry's team
For whatever reason, I never got into the Titans, so my foremost in cheering has always been for Peyton Manning’s team. When Berry gets drafted, I’ll have teams 1 and 1a.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 25, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
It is hard now.
Because I cannot cheer for the Colts, and their fans are horrible, but there will be a part of me deep down inside that will be happy for Peyton.
And he does need a few more Championships so that the whole “Brady vs Manning” thing can be put to bed. Peyton has never had to cheat to win.
But I really really hate the Colts.
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i like titans fans a lot better
and they have the best gameday atmosphere in the NFL. a quality franchise. i’m just not a huge nfl fan. i like peyton.
I should clarify that
The people who are just Peyton fans are OK with me. As Titan fans, we deal with the Texas fans/only Vince Young fans all the time.
It’s the yankees in Indiana who try to tell you that Joseph Addai is a good running back and that Austin Collie would be great no matter what team he was on who drive me crazy. They are the ones who don’t know what they are talking about.
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Well said.
A Peyton Manning fan here in California. My brother is a Titan’s fan however.
"We've got weapons, we've still got weapons... That's terrible, I apologize."
- Bruce Pearl
i've been to games at LP Field and Lucas Oil Stadium
and the two don’t even compare. Even though I’m not a huge titans fan, if I were in Nashville I would spend my money to go watch games there every weekend. the atmosphere is great. As for Lucas… i would never go back. Not only are the ticket prices astronomical, but their fans are terrible. I spent a pretty penny on some lower level tickets near midfield and i could barely breath because the guy next to me smelled so bad. not only that, but he and a bunch of other fans around me were dropping F bombs every other word and screaming all kinds of obscenities. it was awful.
Did you see all the Colt jerseys tucked into blue jeans in the stadium yesterday?
Hilarious.
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Not to mention Colts fans are some of the worst fair-weather fans ever
But I will still root for Manning.
RIP Steve McNair (1973 - 2009) Retire #9!
by Pride of the Southland on Jan 25, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
That's from last fall
they shot it the week after the 14-12 Auburn loss when Jabari was still in Buffalo…I love that dude
by Will Shelton on Jan 25, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Not to put too fine a point on it...
…but it’s good to see that there are some Vol fans who actually cheer for the local team, and since that team is a huge rival of the Colts, hate the Colts even though Peyton Manning is on the team. Sometimes I did actually wonder.
The inability of some people to separate college and NFL football as two entirely different entities that have no relation to each other, with the obvious exception that they’re both football, has been something that I’ve never fully understood, to be honest. The Peyton Manning thing is probably the biggest example, but another one of my personal favorites involves my team, the Falcons. For 10 or so years, Keith Brooking was our defensive leader and was off and on one of the best linebackers in the league. You would think any Falcon fan would love Keith Brooking then, right? Well, wrong. You see, Brooking went to Georgia Tech, and so the Georgia fans all absolutely hated him. They constantly wanted him gone, constantly proclaimed he was the most overrated player in the league, etc. It was absolutely ridiculous.
Anyway, being a Falcons fan, I absolutely can’t stand the Saints (It’s one of the NFL’s more understated rivalries. No one outside of the two fan bases – and maybe the other NFC South teams’ – knows about it. It stems mostly from the fact that the two teams came into the league at the same time, were the only teams close to each other when they were both in the NFC West before realignment, and have both been awful for the vast majority of their existences.) So I will be rooting for the Colts for that reason. But I never really cared much one way or the other about the Colts. The Manning thing just doesn’t mean that much to me. This is the NFL, not college anymore. I was happy for Peyton after they won the Super Bowl, but didn’t really care who won the game while it was going on.
In fact, I had actually promised myself that I would root against the Colts this entire postseason unless they played the Saints after their management decided they would rather let the entire world know they thought they were geniuses instead of actually try and win a football game a couple weeks ago. But since they’re playing the Saints, I have to root for them.
If the Colts and Titans meet in the playoffs again
I’d love to explore this idea further on our site…I was a Cowboys fan when I was in middle school in the early 90s, because there was no team here and everyone I knew was either a Cowboys or 49ers fan. But I sided with the Oilers/Titans as soon as they announced the move to Nashville, before Peyton graduated. And I agree, you can’t have split loyalties – I almost got thrown out of my parents’ house in the Jan. 2000 playoffs for screaming for Jevon Kearse to take Manning down. I still pull hard against him everytime the Colts and Titans play…loyalty to a team means more than loyalty to one player.
by Will Shelton on Jan 25, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree on some points
If, like me, you have no real dog in the fight (Colts vs. Saints), there’s no reason not to root for a player or team based on college affiliations. Were the Packers playing the Colts, I would be all about the Packers, but that’s not the case. Peyton Manning is one of the big reasons why I’m a Vol for life—he was QB when I moved to Tennessee as a kid in the mid-90s, and even then I knew I was watching someone special.
I do agree that you shouldn’t let college affiliations interfere with your pro team (for instance, I would have loved it if the Packers had drafted former Gator Percy Harvin). A few years back I went with my (then) girlfriend to a game at her alma mater, Purdue—what struck me as odd were the amount of Bears and Colts jerseys at the game. You see, West Lafayette is between Indy and Chicago. I thought it was ridiculous that they weren’t coming together as a fan base and wearing black and gold.
On Monday through Saturday, I bleed Orange, on Sunday, Green and Gold.
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by kingofzachland on Jan 25, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you on the first point, I suppose.
It’s as good a way to pick a team to semi-root for in the Super Bowl as any if there’s nothing immediate like your team being in it (or your rival being in it, in my case) to grab onto.
But in general, the whole UT Colts fan thing is what is fascinating to me, especially looking at it kind of from afar, as I’m a UT fan and go to Knoxville for home games and stuff, but am not there for nearly long enough stretches to fully understand the pro football situation there. Do these people consider themselves Titans fans, too? If so, how do they reconcile also cheering for their team’s biggest rival? And if they’re not Titans fans, why did they decide to latch onto a team they could otherwise care less about because Peyton Manning went there? And what happens when Manning retires? And there are other examples, too, as I said. Aside from my Brooking Falcons example, another Falcons-related one that I thought of after finishing the earlier post was when we signed D.J. Shockley as a third-string quarterback and Georgia fans actually loudly proclaimed they thought it was a good idea for him to start over Matt Ryan. I don’t understand this mindset at all, but it’s also very fascinating to me, I guess.
As an aside, there has also been slight friction with my parents whenever the Falcons play the Colts, too, but as it doesn’t happen often and both times the two teams have played in the last 10 years or so, the Colts have just destroyed the Falcons, it hasn’t really been an issue. But I’m sure it would if there were ever a close game…heh.
Im a Titans fan first and foremost. After that Im a Manning (the greater) fan.
My loyalty always lies with the Titans. I like pro football but have less-strong opinions towards teams outside of the AFC South – so I have lots of teams I can like – but rarely feel very strong about any of them. I guess you could say Im a player fan because unlike college football, I am just not that indoctrinated into any program like the Vols and the SEC rivalries (aside from the strong affiliation to the Titans).
I also always love to see former Vols do well, as long as they represent the university well. So to throw a proverbial wrench in things, I liked Haynesworth, but his actions and his money-grubberey, half-assed play as dampened that over the years. Ive been rooting for Meachem all year, but Peyton > Meachem. Its unfortunate that Meachem is buried under the Saints depth chart, but I honestly dont think hes that standout of a player. Dangerous, but not 2nd WR worthy.
Also how can you not be totally blown away when Manning runs the offense? Its a thing of beauty to behold, he is easily the smartest QB of our era. That being said, when he retires, its hasta luega for me Colts.
RIP Steve McNair (1973 - 2009) Retire #9!
by Pride of the Southland on Jan 25, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
The difference comes when you don't have a real dog in the professional fight
I was a Panthers fan in elementary school (before Tennessee got a team), and the Panthers are still the closest to my hometown. But I just can’t bring myself to care about professional sports as much as college. Similarly, I can’t bring myself to care about club soccer as much as national team stuff. So, because I don’t have true loyalty to a team, I pull for players. At the moment, I’m an NFL fan of Indy (Manning) and EPL fan of Everton (Landon Donovan) and Fulham (Clint Dempsey).
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 25, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Who do they have other than Meachem?
I don’t remember anyone else.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 25, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Ah
I knew Jabari Greer was in the NFCCG, but for some reason, I was thinking it was with the Vikes.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jan 25, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
The 3-star thing
is about all Dooley can do at this point. With all the scholarships we were down from players leaving last year, plus all the seniors we lost, we pretty much have to take anybody we can get. Obviously I’m sure the staff is still trying for home runs, but they need to take 25, or as close as possible to 25 as they can.
Woo
I just watched the workout video twice. Janzen is going to knock some people out this fall.
And I think UT has 27 schollys to give, though I could be wrong as I spent all weekend in Miami eating like a Roman and getting weird.
Every battle is won before it is ever fought. - Sun Tzu
Can someone provide me...
…with a conceivable/defensible/justifiable reason that Ron Zook could possibly be excluded from a list of the top ten worst SEC hires.
Ron. Zook.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
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