Tennessee must somehow stop Ohio State without touching them
Rocky Top Talking Points for 3/23/10:
- Remembering the details: That Alamodome game against Ohio State in the Sweet Sixteen in 2007? It was largely about the Buckeyes' comeback in the second half, but what was the real story? Trips to the free throw line ($?):
In the 2007 contest in San Antonio, the Buckeyes came out of halftime down 20 points and immediately attacked Tennessee in the paint, earning more than 28 trips to the foul line, which in the end proved costly for the Volunteers.
"Ohio State got to the rim and the foul line [in 2007]," Pearl said. "I don’t need to worry about saying this, because I know it’s going to be the case. Thad [Matta] is going to get those guys to put the ball down the floor and go to the rim. We have to stop them without fouling them. How many free throws did Ohio State shoot in the second half of that game? Twenty-eight or twenty-nine…pretty tough. In the second half."
- John Pennington has the most humorous take on John Calipari losing another Final Four appearance to vacation:
Calipari Looking For Thir. . . Sec. . . First Final FourNice. And he doesn't stop with the headline, either:
This is the second time that Calipari has had a Final Four stripped from his record. His 1996 UMass club was also forced to forfeit its victories (and tournament run) because of Marcus Camby’s dealings with an agent. That means that this season Coach Cal is looking for his first Final Four trip. Again.
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I propose a five-year waiting period before recognizing KY's Final Four appearance
if it happens this year. Given Coach Cal’s record of having Final Four’s stripped away, we are exercising sound judgment by not rushing to the conclusion that he won fairly on the path to the Final Four.
Did Worldwide Wes provide improper benefits to one or more of the players? Has someone taken the SAT for one of Calipari’s freshman recruits? Did the NBA one & done players already hire an agent? Has someone doctored high school transcripts to help meet Kentucky entrance requirements? Who knows?
And, since it will take the NCAA at least a couple of years to investigate, we should place Kentucky’s Coach into a waiting period until the Final Four is confirmed as legitimate. Think of it as a Probationary Period.
Get a LIFE!
How long will you people try and ride this horse? There is no story here!
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
Kentucky Fans have become Officer Barbrady

So Sayth King Zach I
by kingofzachland on Mar 23, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i think there is a story
it’s interesting that none of his Final 4 appearances are still recongized by the NCAA. Can he finally do it this year??? It’s a human interest story. I can see CBS doing a peice on it with some sappy music, and a dark gym and black-and-white photographs leaned up against a basketball.
Well...
You guys don’t happen to have any boosters to offer 30k/yr part time jobs to basketball players, ala The University of FedEx, do you?
The man is batting 1.000 on probations per job, and god knows Kentucky is under the microscope more than anywhere else he’s been. Beware, if he starts showing interest in another job it means you’re school will likely be vacating some wins soon.
I want a journalist to ask...
… if Cal is nervous for his first Final Four appearance when Kentucky wins their region. That would be great.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Oh My God.
I want to be a journalist SOO bad now..
“Coach Caliperi, how does it feel to finally break the Final Four after so many years of coaching? What does this team have that your previous tournament teams have lacked, other than showing the talent to make it to the semi-finals?”
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by bobo_the_vol on Mar 23, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Coach, could you give a comment on your team's development this season - both as people and professionals?
by David Hooper on Mar 23, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
is it true
that john wall can’t afford the paycut required for him to go to the NBA?
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We need Bert to handle the pregame lineup introductions. After every UK player is announced:
Money!
by David Hooper on Mar 23, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
"money" by pink floyd
should be UK’s intro music @ TBA every year.
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They're just letting it sink in
Yeah… its ran its course… for you and me oldcat70… but we had the good graces not to be born to a Tennessee microcephalic. What you and I fail to realize is that with each new day’s news cycle… the average low iodine Tennessee cretin gets to experience back page… trite stories with the same new found sense of discovery a goldfish finds with each round of his goldfish bowl. Ignorance is bliss… let the poor souls have their redundant laughs… asking any more of them is futile… they have so little.
Thanks. You didn't disappoint.
The smile on my face is huge.
by David Hooper on Mar 24, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
What... I like most
Was his… random elipses.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Mar 24, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Those...are interesting...
…and…at the risk of….sounding like I’m..piling on….are also….used a lot….in the land of….LOLs……
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Speaking of the sea of LOLs, thanks for the defense. I was starting to get paranoid. Was I really that bad?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
If William ... Shatner ...
were a sports … fan…
/action pose
by David Hooper on Mar 24, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome to the bowl!

Come on in, the water’s fine!
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Sorry y'all, what do you think of my new account?
I was trying some stuff out, mixing it up a bit. Looks like it got a good response.
Simulated Gameday Experience - just like the real thing, only we have smoke machines.
by Chris Pendley on Mar 24, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i love
when people try to insult my intelligence on a message board. thanks for stopping by from kentucky, the land of intellectuals.
The Dual Threat, Official Enforcer/Stat Geek of MCM.
you should try it sometime. it's easy!
you can fill in the blanks:
Yeah… its ran its course… for you and me _________… but we had the good graces not to be born to a _________ microcephalic. What you and I fail to realize is that with each new day’s news cycle… the average low iodine _________ cretin gets to experience back page… trite stories with the same new found sense of discovery a goldfish finds with each round of his goldfish bowl. Ignorance is bliss… let the poor souls have their redundant laughs… asking any more of them is futile… they have so little.
and make sure you do it at 4:27 in the morning so people know you aren’t some kind of weirdo
i hadn't even noticed the time stamp
that makes it 1000 times more hilarious
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Miscalculation
Wow!, I really misjudged the attention span of Tennessee folk aforementioned. Of course you all wouldn’t be able to maintain a train of thought that spans the length of three decimal points.
Well, actually
I was wondering what words you were using out. You do understand that they are not decimal points OR used to express “pause” or any such thing. Elipses are used to denote leaving things out of a quote of as a way of “trailing off” a statement.
Or .. were you actually trying to measure thoughts in numbers, and using 3 decimal points to explain that number? Because, uh, that’s an IP Address, not a thought, dude.
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Mar 26, 2010 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions
leaving out*
Tennessee Fans: We win at teh Internet!
by bobo_the_vol on Mar 26, 2010 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Last night in the Thad Matta call in show
he said to beat Tennessee, Ohio St will have to play great defense. He said the Vols like to spread the court and drive, and are good at posting up. He also said that even though there are a lot of players on our team with poor shooting percentage, it’s decieving because it seems like whenever we shoot it, it seems to go in – whatever the heck that means! Ha
Oddly enough...
Stopping Evan Turner doesn’t seem to have much to do with beating Ohio State… of course that’s partially because UCSB was the only time he failed to get into double digits that couldn’t be attributed directly to his injury.
Seems like to biggest correlation is in bugging Lighty and getting him to turn it over… plus keeping a hand in Diebler’s face.
On another note, I can’t believe that the #2 team in our region only goes 2 deep into their bench.
Kenpom has OSU (#5) beating UT (#31) 69-64 with 71% probability
Let’s hope the zebras don’t call a bunch of ticky-tack fouls like they did the last time we played OSU. OSU isn’t fragile and won’t break – no need to protect them, despite their higher seeding.
Hey, Ted Valentine (or any other referee). Please treat us like you treat Duke. For the uninitiated, Duke holds, grabs and bumps the offensive player on every cut and drive on every single play. Please let us play defense like that. If Duke whines that they were fouled on a shot, ahhhh, there’s a late whistle on Duke’s behalf.
In the Cal-Duke game, one of Cal’s players magically had a stitch-worthy cut open up on his left eyebrow in the first minutes of the game. No foul because Duke initiated the elbow. No harsh announcer criticism because it was Duke on the incidental contact.
Ted, please tell your fellow refs that all we want is equality. No favoritism, just equality.
if they call ticky-tack fouls going both ways,
then I think Tennessee would glady exchange them with OSU. They are very thin. I think it would be to our advantage if you could get some of them in foul trouble… especially one of their guards. Kyle Madsen (Vandy transfer) is first off the bench, and he will come in to replace pretty much anyone regardless of position. Wayne Chism would eat his lunch.
Hey!
Was that third bullet point a shout out to me?!?! Thanks!
What are you talking about, Willis?
by Huge Alien Head on Mar 23, 2010 8:55 AM EDT reply actions
Yes sir
Chest bump to you. And to I_S, I think, on the changing of the tag line. It was I_S, right?
by Joel Hollingsworth on Mar 23, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Though, I’d like to take credit for inspiring him to say it.
So Sayth King Zach I
by kingofzachland on Mar 23, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I went 100% on Thursday...
…and now all of my Final Four teams are gone. Going 100% on Thursday really didn’t do me a whole lot of good, it would appear.
Dickie V was asked who he liked, Tennessee or Ohio State
ha! Ohio State is so wonderful, everyone on their team! Tennessee doesn’t even really exist!
In Pat Forde's live chat
He just got finished saying we won’t beat Ohio State based on our 29-point SEC tourney loss, which shows our obvious weakness, but we could cause Northern Iowa problems because of our full-court press. Does anybody WATCH Tennessee but us?
I'd give either a pass
But only once, because the info is widely available even to the blind. Don’t you all think it’s weird that almost no one mentions us at all, and when they do, the details are wrong? How could you not notice us, wearing this shade of orange and all?
by goodnight_vol on Mar 23, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
But at the same time
we’re listed in one article (ESPN? SI?) as being one of the “name teams” remaining in the tournament. A name, I guess, but no face.
by goodnight_vol on Mar 23, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think it's just us...
…I think the only team from the SEC that the national media pays attention to in the slightest is Kentucky. They’re just far more interested in the Big East and ACC and whatnot.
I came to this conclusion (or I should say had my conclusion confirmed) after seeing coverage (or the lack thereof) of the SEC Tournament on national websites and blogs and so forth. Some of them didn’t even cover it at all, at least not until they looked up while watching the ACC championship and noticed that Miss. State was beating Kentucky with five minutes to go.
The major national sites covered it, but only gave it a cursory look, and that includes ESPN, who paid a large sum of money to broadcast the tournament for the next 15 years. I assume that at some point they’ll figure out that it would behoove them to talk about it during Championship Week, and they’ll tell they’re talking heads to do so.
But anyway, I don’t think anyone has watched us, really. Because nobody nationally watches SEC basketball. It’s just as simple as that.
Looking at big national games we’ve had that somebody actually might have watched, you’re looking at Kansas and the first Kentucky game. The second Kentucky game was only a regional game, if I’m not mistaken. And nobody really knew what to make of the Kansas game.
And the media just finds us uninteresting for some reason. Perhaps they’ve already rehashed the arrests story so much that they feel they’ve milked it dry (and they’re probably right about that), and they don’t see anything interesting about our team other than that. We don’t have any players that anybody’s interested in nationally, either.
If we beat Ohio State, we’ll at least get noticed. We might still have people picking us to lose the regional final, but we’ll at lest be acknowledged. If we had played and beaten Georgetown, we would’ve gotten noticed also. But we played Ohio instead. Pretty much everybody in the national media agreed that we were going to easily beat Ohio, by the way. They don’t think we’re awful…they just don’t think we’re interesting, either.
And for those expecting us to get noticed after throwing everybody’s SDSU upset pick back in their face, they didn’t actually think SDSU was that great. They’re required to pull some upset picks out of their rear-ends. I think they picked us to lose because they really didn’t know anything about us and everyone was interested in the Mountain West at the time. I don’t think anybody was overly surprised when we actually did beat them.
Yeah...
because most great scouts always just watch film of a team at their worst.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I'm not saying you have to like or not like this team
But I’d appreciate being included in your analysis. Granted it was only a cursory look, but in browsing new articles this afternoon, Forde blew us off in his chat, Katz hardly mentioned us, and Vitale said nothing of UT in 2+ of talking about the 4 teams remaining in the Midwest…like not a word…not even when talking about out game against Ohio State. I can understand that our win against Ohio garnered no attention, but beating the team everyone said we would lose to should have. It’s just weird to me, and if Bruce can parlay it all as a slight and keep that chip on our shoulders, I’m fine with it.
On a related note…can somebody explain to me why everyone assumes OSU will win? According to KenPom, they are better than us in most offensive efficiency categories, but our defense is slightly better than theirs. I see a lot of similarities between UT and OSU and think this will be a close game. Since Turner returned from his back injury (on the same night as our game against Charlotte), they are 19-3 against an average opponent ranking of 73 while UT is 17-6 against an average opponent ranking of 66 (thanks, LSU). The top of the Big 10 was solid, but they have played 1 game against a top 10 KP team (WVU) whereas we have played 4 games against the top 3.
Heck…their best player even loves Waffle House. To quote Evan Turner when asked about making a lot of $$$ in the NBA, “All I really like is just gym shoes and Waffle House. If I have a lot of gym shoes and I eat a lot at Waffle House, I’m perfectly fine.”
Maybe Weezy will be a gentleman and take him out after we win.
You would think some writer could at least get off his arse
put down his beer, and play the adversity card. Adversity, adversity, adversity—isn’t that supposed to be the biggest canard trotted out this time of year? Don’t we deserve a soft-focus feature and some violins? Are we really so ugly to look at?
by goodnight_vol on Mar 23, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
SRSLY!
our storyline this year is freaking TAILOR MADE for some sappy gushing montage about triumph against all odds! i demand some sappy from the mainstream media!
The Dual Threat, Official Enforcer/Stat Geek of MCM.
This is why I was sure
we’d be the sexy Final Four pick. Clearly, I overestimated the media’s ability to pick out a good story.
by Will Shelton on Mar 23, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The "overcoming adversity" storyline...
… is generally more palatable to the masses when the adversity you overcame wasn’t of your own making.
Similarly, when everyone talks about Coach Pearl deserving more attention for what a great coaching job he has done this season, it seems to me that keeping your players from getting arrested is part of coaching. Not to take anything away from what Coach Pearl has accomplished with this team on the court, but I think that has to be considered.
And before everyone attacks me about how the New Year’s incident was Tyler Smith’s fault and Pearl had nothing to do with it, remember that thought the next time we are making fun of Urban Meyer or some other rival’s coach for his players getting arrested. It is true that these are grown men making their own (often stupid) decisions, but the buck stops with Pearl. I credit him for what good guys these (current) players seem to be, but along with that comes some measure of blame, however small, when they screw up.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
It's also
How you react once you are aware of these troubles.
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by bobo_the_vol on Mar 24, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point
And I have been impressed with Pearl on that side of it.
I just think that people (Vol fans, especially) tend to forget the fact that four players were arrested in the first place when they talk about what a great job Pearl has done overcoming the loss of four players.
I love that Bruce Pearl is our coach and I wouldn’t trade him for anyone right now. But I also don’t think the man is infallible.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
No man (or woman) is infallible....
with one notable exception.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I know this one!
Peyton Manning
Eric Berry
Oh wait, we’re going for the Sunday school answer and not the Vol fan answer.
by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 24, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, that was kind of my point
We got numerous soft-focus features and violins back in January. And I’m sure that if we beat Ohio State, they’ll trot them back out on the Road to the Final Four show on Sunday, since they’ll have to talk about us. But right now they’re interested in players and matchups and so forth, and Northern Iowa is kind of stealing our “good story” thunder. (Plus Michigan State just won a game without any of their best players at one point, and only one of them at the end…so there’s that.)
I guess part of the reason this isn’t really making me angry is because they’re actually talking about basketball, and I always get so miffed when they start talking about sob stories instead of the game. In fact, I would much rather this than rehash the blasted arrest story again.
I will grant you, however, that they probably should at least say something about us from a basketball standpoint when breaking down the matchup, even if they don’t think we’ll win. “Ohio State is great…who are they playing again? Oh, probably not important. Let’s advance them and move on” probably isn’t sufficient.
If we beat OSU, the media is hosed.
I don’t think anybody has done any serious show prep on the what-if case of UT advancing.
by David Hooper on Mar 23, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Right...talk about us as a basketball team
I know we’ve been schizophrenic, but earn your money. Talk about the flex offense. Talk about our vastly improved halfcourt defense. Talk about what we need to do beat a solid Ohio State team. Don’t talk about the arrests. Don’t talk about Tyler. Don’t talk about how we lost to Kentucky by 29 points 2 weeks ago and thus you can’t believe we will ever win again. Focus on the here and now! Is that too much to ask?!
Just to be clear
I don’t want the soft-focus features, I want someone to WANT TO DO THE SOFT-FOCUS FEATURES! Ngah!
Ohio State, contrary to breaking news reports, has not, I repeat not, received a bye to the Elite Eight.
by goodnight_vol on Mar 23, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
In Fairness...
I did hear Pearl on Jim Rome’s Jungle yesterday. He seemed really impressed with Pearl and the coaching job he’s done this year. Other than that…crickets.
So Sayth King Zach I
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
i refuse to give jim rome credit for anything.
The Dual Threat, Official Enforcer/Stat Geek of MCM.
Can you at least give him credit
for this?
So Sayth King Zach I
by kingofzachland on Mar 23, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
That was awesome....
what a smarmy little guy!
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
An autistic kid has a perfect bracket, just not on espn
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/8632/autistic-teen-picks-perfect-bracket
Has anyone ever filled out a perfect bracket for the entire tournament? My guess would be no.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
Did he pick the Vols to win?
Maybe we’ll get some press.
by goodnight_vol on Mar 23, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He's got Tennessee losing to K St. in the Final Four and Purdue winning it all
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
I'm taking that kid to Vegas
…Rainman Style.

1 for bad, 2 for good
So Sayth King Zach I
by kingofzachland on Mar 23, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Pearl mentioned not picking up fouls when tOSU takes the ball to the hoop
I think a great strategy is to throw that right back in their face, tell Scotty, JP, Cam, and Maze to make getting to the rack the #1 priority, and see if we can get them in foul trouble.
They have depth issues. This kinda makes perfect sense.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
Is that a boat ^^
Strangest excuse for ASCII art I’ve seen in a while…….
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
There you go.
Replying to spam outside the reply stream. That keeps the funnies from being deleted. :-)
by David Hooper on Mar 23, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh
I figured that out days ago. ;-)
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
No surprise there.
The surprise is that I noticed. Much like women’s haircuts, some things don’t tend to grab my attention.
by David Hooper on Mar 23, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Va. Had the windows open last night and the heat on to night wt ?
If you can't be kind at least be vague. Go Vols !
Just the opposite here...
in Middle Tennessee. 72 on Sunday, snow on Monday, 68 today…..
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Man I'm so proud your going to the game and completely jealous !!!
You are going to love it. I still want to go but can’t pull the triger
If you can't be kind at least be vague. Go Vols !
I can't wait!
My ticket was delivered today by FedEx. If we win Friday, my son may drive over from Louisville and join me for the game on Sunday!
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

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