Trojans Fans Talking Crazy About Seantrel Henderson, Derek Dooley
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jul 7, 2010 12:00 PM EDT
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PrintWow. File this under "friends don't let friends listen to Lane Kiffin." INTERVENTION!
Y'all may wonder why the semi-regular noon posts here at RTT include links only from the SEC, Big 10, and ACC. Well, it's because the SB Nation college network includes something like 70 blogs, and two of us split them up and share responsibility as co-league managers. My half keeps me busy, so, as much as I'd love to, I don't often get to the other blogs. Today, though, not a whole lot was going on, so I wandered over to Conquest Chronicles to see what my good friend Paragon SC was saying about the Seantrel Henderson story. He and I have talked, and I've told him that I sympathize with him because he's in the same place we were a year ago. I've also said that I was going to try to remember to distinguish between Lane Kiffin and the fans of the team he now coaches. I think I've mostly succeeded at that.
Today, though, I'm going to fail because Lane Kiffin is turning Joey Kaufman's brains into mush, and although I don't know him, I like Joey. Any friend of Paragon's is a friend of mine.
Joey's one of Paragon's co-authors, and he's . . . well, he must be ill. Listen, we know from experience the dilemma a fan experiences when Lane Kiffin takes the reigns of your beloved program and that it can drive you to the edge of insanity, but hopefully you come to your senses before walking off the cliff.
First, on the release of Seantrel Henderson, we have this:
Coachspeak aside, this remains a small victory for USC. Even more so in the wake of the NCAA sanctions, USC remains a "big boy" program reserved for athletes with killer instincts and intense competitive spirits, who are driven and motivated to become the best players possible. The right players for this program are not, however, motivated by the possibility of playing in one or two bowl games, as Kiffin echoed the other day.
Kiffin's quite busy washing brains, apparently. First, the NCAA sanctions are minimized to "playing in one or two bowl games." Scholarship limitations and the multi-year impact on the team's ability to compete? Never you mind about those, son.
With that premise established, they move on to the logical conclusion: anyone who wants to flush their entire career down the toilet out of spite for missing two little old meaningless games is soft, passive, and unmotivated. Yeah, that's why everyone in the country, including Kiffin, wanted Henderson. And I bet if we looked really hard, we could find a quote from Kiffin saying a few things about the goal being a championship team.
And what about Derek Dooley faxing USC a list of all of the juniors and seniors that Tennessee wanted to talk to under the special rule triggered by the sanctions? A pathetic move:
Faxing this list over to USC, means two things. One, Tennessee is not aware of the transfer rules, which is a little disheartening from a group that was so critical of Kiffin for his NCAA violations. Secondly, they know the rules, yet are so caught up in the whole post-Kiffin drama that they sent the thing as a big "F.U." to 'SC. It's one thing for fans to be better [sic], but it's another thing when actual administrators within the athletic department behave this way.
It's pathetic whichever way you look at it. At the end of the day, it'd just be nice for this [sic] people to get a grip.
[SIC]
Or, he could actually have read the rule and just be following up on a whole new group of players who have suddenly become available to shore up a team that will be at a ten-scholarship disadvantage against every team they play this year.
Friends, we've been there. We feel for you. But you're talking crazy.
This has been a public service announcement.
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Hehe
Probably the best durn thing I have read all day
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football." John Heisman
Couple thoughts here:
“The right players for this program are not, however, motivated by the possibility of playing in one or two bowl games, as Kiffin echoed the other day.”
That’s some hard working spin right there, from Kiffin and from fans. I prefer “the right players for this program are not motivated by the possibility of playing for championships.”
On Dooley/UT sending in that list of names: isn’t it possible that we just took the easiest route and, being unsure of which guys we were actually going to talk to at the time, put everybody on the list to take care of it all at once? I don’t want to fall into the same trap of assuming too much about a coach we just met, but Dooley – who certainly had to know and approve of faxing the list – just doesn’t seem one for spite.
99.9%
Dooley couldn’t give a flying baboon’s backside about Lane Kiffin and USC in the sort of way that would lead him to try and spite them.
They have good players, due to NCAA sanctions open season has been declared on said players… We lack depth, we’d have to be crazy not to try and get something out of this nearly unprecedented situation. I think that about sums it up.
Also...
Any USC fan(or fan of any team) that thinks they wouldn’t be doing the exact same thing has their head so far up their backside they’re doing somersaults. Just so happens we got a guy.
I wonder if they’ll be accusing the fans of RANDOM TEAM C of being bitter if a player leaves for that school.
Thanks Joel
I read both posts felt mildly compelled to comment over there but just decided it wasn’t worth the fight that would likely ensue.
Those guys are on drugs. I mean, that is some serious politico-radio worthy spin.
by GhostDance on Jul 7, 2010 12:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Annnnnnd
LOL at Conquest Chronicles.
That’s funny, funny stuff. I guess they forget all about old Eddie boy trying to encourage people not to enroll in class. You know, since they’re sooooo high and mighty about their academics out there.
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by gramsey712 on Jul 7, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
win
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Fits right in with ASOLOL and Rloll Bama Rloll
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One of my greatest accomplishments...
is that I, in a small way, contributed to this, by pointing out the overabundance of LOLs, but who actually came up with “ASOLOL” ?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
/Angelic choir music
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
speaking of trying to take players with you:
in an earlier post yesterday Paragon SC scolded:
“It has also been rumored that Jackson, like Jordan Campbell, was actively recruiting other USC players to leave with him. If true I take exception with that. I am more than willing to wish a kid well if USC does not work out but that goes out the window if the kid is actively recruiting against the school as he is walking out the door.
That to me shows a kids level of immaturity and a window into his soul."
and yet back in January when Kiffin and Orgeron were actively trying to recruit against our school as they were walking out the door, he wrote: “For the most part I think Kiffin handled this week with aplomb. He got hit from all sides but he stood tall and navigated through it all.”
hilarious.
Oh, that's "different"...
besides, Kiffin & Orgeron can’t have a window into their souls, because they don’t have souls.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Like the famous Yogi Berra quote I just made up: "Opposite sides of a different coin."
If he’s yours, you “Caliparize” for him.
If he’s not yours, you (cheer and) jeer at him.
Opposite sides of a different coin.
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
You didn't look hard enough...
I also said this…
Another view to this…
While agree that it doesn’t look good as long as the rules were not broken the all is fair in the recruiting wars.
When PC resigned how fast do you think Meyer, Neuheisel etc. went after our recruits?
A LOT of programs have been using the NCAA stuff against us for years. I don’t see those fan bases complaining.
Again, I understand the perception problem but this is big boy football we are talking about here most of these coaches would not only sell their mother for a recruit but they would send her C.O.D.
These guys are sharks…what did you think they were going to do?
To date there has been nothing official from either the SEC or the Pac-10 that rules were broken. If there was I may have missed it… I don’t recall it.
But I was clear that they should follow the rules…
"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."
I remember writing some pretty foolish stuff (hindsight) when my head was spinning from the Kiffin Klan
But, this makes my hook-line-and-sinker stuff look like pre-school. Wow. Glorious Find over at Conquest Chronicles. This whole post needs to be green, because it is a CLASSIC.
Dooley was expedient in sending over the whole list. He was also above-board by telling them, beforehand, that he might target people on their immediate eligibility list (jrs and srs.). I know Kiffin and Orgeron would have been equally opportunistic if something similar happened at Florida or Bama. I just wonder if they would have been as upfront about it…
I’m frankly just impressed that we’ve snagged a couple of USC ’splayers (punter and the DE).
If he’d wanted to be spiteful, Dooley could have sent over individual faxes (one per half hour) on every single name and watch Coach O. go ballistic as the fax pile mounted,
But, we’re Tennessee fans; we’re not that spiteful. (where is my mattress and lighter fluid anyway….)
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
Orgeron is in no space to talk about poaching players.
I know Kiffin and Orgeron would have been equally opportunistic if something similar happened at Florida or Bama.
Ooo. Good point. /head slap. Wish I'd remembered that detail...
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
Or hell, remember when they were trying to get UT commitments to come with them to USC?
Telling guys not to go to class so they wouldn’t be locked in here?
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Essentially
This is the same thing people say when they lose any recruit (or player to transfer). “Well, if they didn’t want to be here, we didn’t want them.” So it’s a win, right? What’s missed is that our goal is for them to want to be here. If they don’t (barring some Markeith Ambles character issues), that’s actually what we in the business like to call a loss. Obviously, this situation requires a stronger spin than normal, but the flaws in reasoning are the same.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 7, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions
Since you brought him up......
Markeith hasn’t said or done anything because he’s unawares. I mean, the Trogans aren’t in trouble, just the Trojans. His team has nothing to worry about.
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by VolBrian on Jul 7, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Its funny
those over at conquest chronicles are claiming conspriracy for Dee to sanction SC so that henderson will go to Miami.
A bruin is good forever, a Trojan is only good... ahh eff it, just use tin foil
They also want to sue the NCAA for persecution
the “Alabama Defense” is sooooo in vogue these days.
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Kentucky basketball may soon join the Class Action suit...
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
Another bit from the article:
If Seantrel has a problem in missing out on a bowl game and seeing the big picture in all of this, than USC probably isn’t the best fit for him in the first place. The USC football program does one thing better than any other school in America – getting players to the NFL. Just look at the number of draft picks that hail from this university. It’s staggering. That’s why you come to ’SC.
Hmmm… this made me think about another school that seems to have jumped onto the whole mindset of being a “feeder” for the professional league. The SEC championship means nothing. The Final Four? Who needs it? UK has recently experienced the “greatest moment” in their basketball history by having 5 players drafted in the first round of the NBA draft.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
by sddbaker on Jul 7, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Agreed. Remember the greatest moment in coaching history?
Calipari having Five NBA First Rounders and not making it to the Final Four. It’s a stunning underachievment and worthy of repeating every time Coach Cal’s infamous quote comes up.
UK has recently experienced the "greatest moment" in their basketball history by having 5 players drafted in the first round of the NBA draft.
I also like Kentucky player and Hall of Famer Dan Issel’s response:
“That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.”
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
by memphispete on Jul 7, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I should make both of those quotes my Sig
when I head over to aSoB to hang out with them when Tennessee’s not got a game on next fall and I’m feeling bored.
Btw, aren’t we all glad our name is so hard to meme? What would we be .. Rocky Top Rofl?
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by Chris Pendley on Jul 7, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Hyperbole
Cal stuck his foot in his mouth, and Issle called him out.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
also known as Issel
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
Certainly hyperbole
but, rhetoric aside, everybody knew what he meant. To your credit, most of your ASOLOLers did as well.
When we say Calipari, aren't we always saying Hyperbole as well?
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
USC...
has 54 players under NFL contract… that number will shrink before the season begins.
We have 44, Florida 42, Ohio State 45…
LSU has 60, Texas 51.
The differences aren’t huge, but a lot of USC fans seem to believe that they hold some unique position as the most loaded program in the history of college football.
Rec'd
for “A Sea of This”. lol
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Those tweaks won’t let me post over there!
by GhostDance on Jul 7, 2010 1:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I logged on for the purpose of....
…FanShot’ing the Joey Kaufman article. You beat me to it, Joel.
Bitterness, Kaufman calls it.
Hmmm..where I come from we don’t call that bitterness, we call it opportunism.
And the 1860 thing is just weak.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
I tried to Fanshot this particular post
over at Bruins Nation so they could join in the shenanigans but they have the waiting period. If anybody is already a member, I’m sure they would like to come join in……
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This whole circus is a lot of fun
And I have a feeling we’ll see more good quotables from Dillon Baxter and Trogan Man over the next few years.
Yeah...
We really hate California because of the Civil War(wut?!).
Just a quick poll, does anyone here actually wish the south had won?
No
But I’m still waiting for California to break off and fall into the ocean like we were told would happen back in elementary school…..
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As an Anti-Federalist, perhaps that's not a good quick poll
But does anyone remember California being on the other side? I think my history is iffy. . .
by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 7, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
California went both ways during the War of Northern Aggression
When the Democratic party split over the war Republican supporters of Lincoln took control of the state in the September elections. Volunteer Regiments were sent to occupy pro-secessionist Southern California and Tulare County leaving them generally powerless during the war itself. However some Southerners traveled east to join the Confederate Army evading Union patrols and hostile Apache.
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
You are accurate on many levels, Pete
“California went both ways during the War of Northern Aggression "
As a transplanted Californian (and a hard core Bruin.) I have witnessed plenty of that. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course.
I mean to be civil and don't mean to troll
I’m not going to argue with you all on the Seantrel front. It’s my opinion it’ll turn out better in the long run. Granted, I’m biased and pro-USC, but I’m not going to change that and be a Scott Wolf and just be pessimistic for the sake of it. I may be wrong, but that’s just my prediction for the long run. It is what it is. If you want to disagree with that, I have no problem with you doing so.
As for the transfer rules, I did read the rules and bylaws. Trust me, we’ve been on that since the sanctions we’re handed. Don’t you think Paragon and I would’ve read everything out there by now. We’re not making rules up. So far, we’ve been told that all seniors are eligible to transfer, but are not able to transfer to SEC schools unless they’ve graduated like C.J. Gable has. Here’s a tweet from Bruce Feldman a few weeks back explaining that:
Spoke to an SEC coach (re:USC): An SEC rule prevents teams from taking transfers w only 1 yr of eligblty remaining unless they’ve graduated.
So guys like Mitch Mustain or Ronald Johnson would NOT, according to this, be able to go to ANY SEC school. That’s where we got that from.
Your passion is commendable, even if I do sometimes feel it’s misplaced. I mean to “ill-will” and I simply wish to discuss the issues with some sanity.
All the best.
Follow me on twitter @Joey_Kaufman
Your comment here doesn't exactly address your post at Conquest ChronicLOLs
You called CDD and UT for following the rules by notifying your compliance officer that they would be recruiting your upperclassmen as they have the ability to transfer. This includes juniors and seniors. We want D1 talent at Tennessee more than we want to needle any former coaches, but I don’t guess your narrow mind will understand that.
Your post here is merely a weak attempt to save face. Good luck with that, and your Alabama defense as well. Cheater.
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I, for one,
am happy that USC is having so many small victories recently! Here’s to more.
You're missing the point
Those seniors do NOT have the ability to transfer to UT according to the rules pointed about by Feldman. UT didn’t break any rules by notifying the USC compliance office (which has now expanded just coincidently of course), but why would they notify USC they’re trying to recruiting seniors who are ineligible to transfer to Tennessee.
Follow me on twitter @Joey_Kaufman
I mentioned this up there earlier
but it’s certainly possible that we just put everybody on the list because it was the easiest thing to do
Plus you can get the list from numerous websites.
I have this image that some intern in the athletic department just went to Yahoo, printed off the roster, and highlighted the guys with “Jr” or “Sr” next to their names. Please don’t destroy this.
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by Chris Pendley on Jul 7, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Then go back and clarify your post at ChronicLOLs
If it means so much that we take you seriously.
Or, would you rather just keep calling us bitter rednecks who are upset about the civil war?
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
As a matter of fact
I did clarify that over there. We had already discussed Feldman’s original tweet one June 18 and I noted the following below:
SEC transfer rules permit any SEC school from recruiting a senior who has yet to earn his undergraduate degree. Yes, C.J. Gable would be allowed to transfer to a school such as Tennessee, but guys like Ronald Johnson, Mitch Mustain, or Shareece Wright, would not be eligible to do so under the current set of rules. So why would they be included on the list?
Follow me on twitter @Joey_Kaufman
This
I mentioned at CC It is my understanding that that rule can be appealed. If Slive is cool with it, we can do it. Given his relationship with Kiffin, I think we have a shot at any seniors we were looking at.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 7, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
But, like I said, you really aren’t interested in discussing the matter with impartial discourse. You just were looking for an excuse to call us “pathetic” for desiring the ten D1 players we are short on as a reault of Kiffin’s departure.
Apparently Print Journalism degrees from U$C don’t require you to actually research your articles, source much, or forgo your bias. have fun writing for US magazine…….
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by VolBrian on Jul 7, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If that rule can be appealed,
I wonder what the odds are that Slive would approve such an appeal when the school in question is currently coached by Kiffin. That was a spectacular relationship.
To be fair...
these are blogs, so bias is to be expected… however, the format at SBNation does imply a more journalistic approach.
I don't have to be fair
A “Print Journalism” field of study isn’t listed in my profile…..
Matter of fact, I have a Political Science degree so I can be as biased as I want. ;-)
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
Political Science
That’s a license to lie, cheat and steal, isn’t it?
Sort of like the non-business version of advertising and sales?
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
Political Science Degree?
That’s so .. Georgia. ;-)
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by bobothevol on Jul 7, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It doesn't matter what the format requires
At least have the cahones to stick to your guns if you come to enemy territory. Don’t bring the tired old
I mean no "ill-will" and I simply wish to discuss the issues with some sanity.
when you obviously wrote the original post with "ill-will."
That’s weak stuff…even for a USC fan.
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by gramsey712 on Jul 7, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hold their Gucci-clad feet to the fire, VolBrian!
I’ve still enjoyed the posts during my self-imposed hiatus from RTT.
The interweb is full of “punch and run” opinion like the ones at Conquest Chroniclols (is that the correct spelling?).
After getting called out, the inevitable verbal crawfishing is the next step for these intellectual giants.
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by pound the rock on Jul 8, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Let me freakin' post in
your world of unicorns and wizards and junk. For serious.
by GhostDance on Jul 7, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I mentioned at CC
It is my understanding that that rule can be appealed. If Slive is cool with it, we can do it. Given his relationship with Kiffin, I think we have a shot at any seniors we were looking at.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 7, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That helps
And thanks for the tone. I’d never heard of that SEC rule, so my bad on that. I would like to see it in writing before I completely buy in. I know and trust Feldman, but the things we all tweet are not exactly vetted very well.
Even so, it doesn’t really get to the point. They were available pursuant to NCAA rules, and, I’m assuming (again), that anyone who wanted to pursue them had to let USC know. That’s all he was doing. If there was some other rule that meant he couldn’t have some of those guys, that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t include any prospective candidate on the list just to be sure. That’s a long way from pathetic.
Like I said, we’ve been there, and we understand. But don’t turn on Tennessee fans just because we’re angry at your coach for something we have a right to be angry about.
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jul 7, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Second,
Sure, we’ll have disagreements, but thanks for at least being open to a discussion on the matter. Even if we never come to terms, at least there’s that.
open to a discussion on everything but the part about...
…pathetic bitterness. And lingering anger over the outcome of the civil war.
I’ll thank him when he opens up that discussion.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
Third(ed?)
Thanks for the honest response — I’d love to laugh at you for falling for Kiffin or some such, but I can eat my own crow sometimes too and say Kiffin does have a charm about him, if your IQ is under 148 (or so I’ve found out). I’ve got to agree that faxing over the entire list makes the most sense, especially if the only rule is an SEC one.
Eric Berry Eats Landsharks For Breakfast.
In all seriousness, however...
do your research on East Tennessee’s stance and involvement in the Civil War before speaking on such topics, O.J.
by GhostDance on Jul 7, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
And now, more gasoline:
Bruce Feldman reporting that Kiffin approached us about playing in the 2011 Chick-Fil-A Kickoff game. Mike Hamiton said that we would play them in a few years but couldn’t work it out with our schedule next year (we already have non-conf dates at UNC and home with Cincinnati).
we're currently scheduled for the 2012 Chick-Fil-A Kickoff Game
against NC State; my assumption was that they were doing all ACC-SEC matchups
Wonder why he wanted to play us so soon?
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I was thinking more of the talent differential at the two schools.
And he doesn’t want to agree to the series down the road so we don’t have time to reload.
Typical shady Kiffin.
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From what I understand...
There is a contract for a home and home that just needs to be agreed to by USC… but with those sorts of rumors, there is no telling if that’s even remotely accurate.
I know in 2011 we already play Cincinatti and at North Carolina… can’t imagine tacking on USC in place of North Texas. As for the rest of the decade, you’re going to be adding a USC game to a schedule already including either UNC, Oregon, Oklahoma, Nebraska, or Ohio State not to mention a few games against Connecticut and NC State thrown in there too.
That 2011 at UNC game
Is REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY tempting to be my first Live Volball game since the Fresno State opener a long while ago.
Eric Berry Eats Landsharks For Breakfast.
This game needs to happen
I completely understand our schedule as a reason to say no for 2011. I understand the risk/reward. But we’re the University of Tennessee. We lead the way in non-conference scheduling, we’ve played UCLA more than just about anybody so we know the logistics, and if they’re willing, we need to be willing. We’ve never been in the business of backing down from a challenging non-conference date, and there is better reason to step up to this one than any other. Make it work, Mike Hamilton. Make it work.
If I remember right
Lance Thompson is already on the record as “anytime, anywhere”…..
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Gotta play the best...
to be the best.
I’d rather get beat than be a coward… but I’m sure that I am in the minority among sports fans with that opinion.
We'd be glad to play them.... when H[Fulmerized] freezes over...
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
I'd be glad to play them in a bowl -- oh, wait ........
Eric Berry Eats Landsharks For Breakfast.
by bobothevol on Jul 7, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
well played, as always
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
As to the photo, waaaay up at the top
Oldies song contest:
“You can’t hide your Lying Eyes
And your smile is in disguise…”
Anyone over 40 is disqualified from answering the trivia question.. (Googling is cheating)
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
Eagles
too easy, and I’m 30. Still a man though. Not 40, but still a m – a – n
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
Look at your coach
Now back to him. Now back to your coach. Now back to him. Sadly, he isn’t your coach, but he is the coach your coach could coach like if he stopped doodling with crayons in his playbook and got his foot out of his mouth.
Eric Berry Eats Landsharks For Breakfast.
by bobothevol on Jul 7, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
"Uberly Pwn'd"
Southern Cal style.
by GhostDance on Jul 7, 2010 3:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Was mainly interested in the lyin' eyes and the cheatin' song...
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
It is absolutely infuriating
That Conquest ChronicLOLs has a freaking week long waiting period.
Way to man up there Trogans.
Official MCM Hater!
"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"
Oh, apparently dude does not respect you and your fellow Vol fans as much as you do him, Joel.
yeah i just changed the waiting period for 5 days that will cool things down they won’t be able to post
“Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh.”
Conquest Chronicles
by Paragon SC on Jul 7, 2010 3:04 PM EDT
That’s real f’n classy right there. Let your pansy a$$ fans say whatever they want and change the rules so we can’t rebut.
Infuriating.
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"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"
Paragon SC
…….putting the LOL in Conquest ChronicLOLs………
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Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
They’re trying to keep out all of the “hataz”.
by GhostDance on Jul 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
They do that on the "reg"
cuz thats how they roll
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
Kiffie!
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Paragon SC
Seems to be as about as big of a [FULMERIZED] [FULMERIZED] as I’ve seen running a blog on SB Nation. Amazing.
He’s really in denial about this whole thing.
What a toolbag.
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
You obviously have never been to Stampede Blue, but that is a different story altogether.
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"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"
i'm a colts fan
and even i get sick of BBS hatred of all things non-colt and over the top homerism
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
That guy we gave a lot of money in the offseason to protect albert is dead to me...DEAD TO ME
I can legally buy a handgun before I can defend the honor of my Volunteers on their blog.
Lame!
by GhostDance on Jul 7, 2010 3:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd make a comment about how
You can’t defend your honor to the honorless, but I’m not sure how to phrase it.
Honestly, I wouldn’t make too big a deal about this. If some USC fan had come rolling all up in haer with that, maybe, but it was Big Daddy Joel (which is my new nickname for him. Seriously, we get the dude who runs half of the SB Nation College Blogs?! Can we bribe Joel into, like, prank-posting stuff on the other places??) who posted something here. I, at the least, can’t get overtly worked up about it.
Eric Berry Eats Landsharks For Breakfast.
I agree with you
But, as a contributor to an SB Nation blog, it’s the principle of the act that has me infuriated. You don’t start a flame war with another team/fanbase, send one of your lackeys to the other blog to keep it fired up, and then extend the waiting period for the sole purpose of cutting off any rebuttal the other fans may have.
Official MCM Hater!
"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"
Fair point, I wasn't looking at it quite like that.
But, then again, I am an future eternal optimist
Eric Berry Eats Landsharks For Breakfast.
If that's based on the waiting period
There’s a reason. The bad blood between USC and UCLA makes your disdain of Georgia look like a basket of fluffy adorable kittens. I don’t like the waiting periods b/c it also decreases participation in good news events as well, but that’s his call.
If there’s more, well, I haven’t seen it, but either way, he’s still my friend. I appreciate your passion, and I love having you at the front gate, but I hope you understand if I sneak him in the back door and leave you to growl at the other barbarians clanging around outside.
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jul 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Except that he just stated that he changed it today to keep us out.
Weak stuff dude. Weak.
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"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"
Yeah
You have a point. Knee jerk reactions always take the form of some prior action, I guess. Ah, well. We still have our own sandbox!
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jul 7, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I won't disagree.
I will simply point out that their last few weeks have been the kind of thing we most feared when Kifferon was over here. Between the probation and the (very) active Bruins presence, they’re a little frayed over there.
I’m not saying they shouldn’t be above board or anything. Just an observation.
And while we have a terrific behind-the-scenes working relationship with Paragon, we also have a great up-front relationship with you all. Don’t expect much of a stance from the friendly mods over here. ;-)
Then they shouldn't provoke it with sutff like their posts today now should they?
We never once called out another school to start a flame war when Kiffin was our coach. We just defended ourselves and him all the time.
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
I'm so glad we don't have to do that anymore
But you’re right.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 7, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand
But I am rebutting. Today is in no way similar to our old issues because they get in slap fights with UCLA fans. They started this and then took their ball and ran home.
I’m still having fun btw. :-)
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
Close enough to it
That I wake up angry every morning……
:-(
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
Home is where the heart is
Even if that heart is full of burning, blistering, boiling hate! :D
Eric Berry Eats Landsharks For Breakfast.
Fitting that we are talking about Kiffin and using the word reBUTTing
He’s famous for the rebuttal and spin. It’s a shame that he drives his current school supporters to have to take a nonsensical positon to defend the defenseless.
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
well...
I think that’s what pissed me off most when he left… I had just spent the last year defending the man when I knew he was making us look like assholes. I bought the whole, “let’s be the bad guys” thing and got left looking like a jackass while my college was left in relatively bad shape…
and then he had the nerve to portray us as if we were crazy without acknowledging his role in it. If he is actually dense enough to not realize why we’re mad(which I actually suspect may be the case) then good luck with your own version of Les Miles, USC.
You're right
And that’s why I purposely “failed” today. We’d been sacrificing who knows how many page views to stay out of it, to avoid even the appearance of being too hung up on our prior coach. We might have laughed a bit at some of the irony of getting some of the players Kiffin would have had if it were not for the sanctions, but mostly it was limited to that. I think.
But when that courtesy was met with calling our new coach bitter, well, I couldn’t resist.
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jul 7, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
And that's the whole thing
If they want to call us out as bitter fans, fine, but CDD has been nothing but pure class since he got to UT no matter what was being thrown at him.
Either way, at least have the testicles to allow discussion/rebuttal of your baseless taunts at your own place rather than shutting it down and running off with your tail between your legs.
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
You're just after pageviews?
How typical for a blogger. ;)
Simulated Gameday Experience - just like the real thing, only we have smoke machines.
by Chris Pendley on Jul 7, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not about the waiting period
It’s about his comments today over there. Seems no better the ballin’-bama-boom-train tbh. And at least ballin was funny. Paragon is just over there acting like, well, me. But I don’t run a blog on SB Nation.
And how dare you underestimate my hatred for Georgia. No amount of weak west coast slap fighting compares. Not in the least……
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
I've been posting over there a little bit during halftime
The intelligent comments tend to garner responses of either name-calling or ignoring.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 7, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I've noticed.
Smart fellows out there.
by GhostDance on Jul 7, 2010 3:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Never mind
One good commenter. And a lot of asses.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 7, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay
I haven’t had time to read them, so perhaps you’re right.
My sincerest apologies for subordinating your utter loathing for Georgia to something from the Pac-10. I don’t know what I was thinking.
And I almost hate to say this, but I kinda sorta miss the ballin bama boom train.
by Joel Hollingsworth on Jul 7, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The weird thing is that we have a kind of truce (of sorts) among the SEC SBN blogs.
For the most part, any cross-blog banter is fairly humorous. The serious stuff doesn’t get lobbed across the boards like over at BN/CC. (The Auburn and Bama fans are the exception.)
I think we simply prefer to do our heavy trash-talking face-to-face.
Familiarity + Respect
For example, even when I’ve completely disagreed with something Tru has written about UT over at ASOB, I have a healthy respect for his opinion, not only because he’s a good writer but also just because I read their site a lot. Same is true with most of the SEC blogs – mutual familiarity, mutual respect.
But there’s little familiarity here, and while I respect the professional spin job, can’t say the same for much else about this today.
Just read that and...
I feel like I just watched “The Godfather” for the first time and nobody had told me about it.
by GhostDance on Jul 7, 2010 3:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
THE BALLINBAMABOOMTRAIN DOES NOT APPROVE THIS MESSAGE
Official MCM Hater!
"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"
It may be his call, but it is a horrible call
If he were dispassionately moderating, that’d be one thing. But their actions in this case are without conscience.
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
Conquest Chronicles
what a joke, a 5 DAY WAITING PERIOD! They are all talking garbage about us and we can’t even respond. Dogging us for our weak non conference schedule. We have played home and homes with UCLA, Cal, Notre Dame, and Miami in the last 6 years. Stay classy USC fans.
It's simple Cubs in the spring and summer, Vols in the fall and winter.
I just went over there
They said we should bump our game with Cincy or UNC to play them. I said that smacks of an inflated sense of their own importance. Cincy and UNC are BCS programs in the top 25. Paragon indicated to me that I shouldn’t comment over there anymore. :-/
by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 7, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
Me thinks...
this is just despicable:
On our site he is very important… might be time for you to move on back to RTT…
by Paragon SC on Jul 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said: t-o-o-l-b-a-g
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
As an unbiased third party....
I think it was a shrewd move by D-Doo and Tennessee to fax the list of players.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
Apparently Mike Hamilton was just on 104.5 The Zone in Nashville talking about this
be eager to hear it when they post the interview
Hey, does RTT have a waiting period to comment?
I don’t even remember.
To Strive, To Seek, To Find, and Not to Yield.
That's what I thought.
They’re all mouth and no substance. They just want to be able to snipe from their little west coast perch and protect themselves behind their little blog. Hush, U$C, grownups are talking.
To Strive, To Seek, To Find, and Not to Yield.
One must show
Two forms of government ID, possess a congressional recommendation, and swear allegiance to the almighty Daniel Tosh (er…Lame Kiffin), to be able to post at the ChronicWHATcles.
by GhostDance on Jul 7, 2010 4:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
No
We have testicles
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
Well, the males do.
Sorry dawn. ;-)
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
Dawn*
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
no problem
In this case, I get to have honorary testicles, I suppose…..
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
No worries. We're talking about Los Angeles.
You won’t be needing anything like that.
by David Hooper on Jul 7, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Between you, Holly and the other ladies on RTT
no external plumbing or anything else to get in the way of your insightful and pithy comments. Y’all can hold your own with anyone.
Besides, Lance Armstrong and Chris Lofton prove that a set isn’t entirely necessary to be a Man or a Solid Contributor.
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
Thank you...
kind sir!
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Thanks for livening up a day. Why on earth would your AD agree to play USC? That game would have nothing to do with anything other than to give Kiffin more attention. Kudos for turning them down lickety split.
Especially when we already have two top 25 non-conference games that year
And have a home and home scheduled with SoCal down the road.
by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 7, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I am convinced that Kiffin didn't want the game
He is smarter (or whoever is pulling his strings is) than we give him credit for.
He was our coach last year. He knows our schedule intimately, knows about the contracts that we have in place and that they are extremely difficult to break, and knew that Hamilton would tell him no.
Now he has won another headline. Same old Kiffin.
Official MCM Hater!
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by gramsey712 on Jul 7, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah...
2014 sound about right?
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
UT's out-of-conference schedule is primarily concerned about recruiting.
I don’t like the idea of scheduling for emotional reasons if they don’t line up with the recruiting strategy. If a USC game works for recruiting, then fine. Schedule it. But if the scheduling of SoCal is solely to appease the emotions of the fans, then I can’t say that it’s worth it.
That said, we did schedule UCLA for recruiting reasons, so SoCal should work for the same reasons. But in the same breath, we can’t lop off other avenues (e.g. North Carolina, Ohio) simply to chase Kiffin’s tail. We only have 4 OOC games a year: Hamilton has to be sure the OOC schedule is in the best logistical interests of the program and leave the emotions to the fans.
But if publicity, among other things, can work both ways
then there will come a point when playing USC is in the best interests of the program. In 2011, it’s not. But there will come a point when it is.
And you’re absolutely right, it’s pure fan emotion, but I still say we back down from no one, especially not them. For me, it would even be enough right now if Hamilton made mention of the fact that we had an agreement for 2021 and 2022, and we would honor it if they would.
Totally sensible.
And like you point out, sometimes the publicity alone is enough to be a boost. Besides, if we at least split the series we’d come out on top in the PR war on that one. I just see the game as a trade-off and would like to know if they see the benefit of playing USC to be worth the loss of exposure in closer recruiting grounds.
I’d also be really curious to see how the economics work out.
I was wondering.....
;-)
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
Why is the original post not GREEN yet?
This is classic Kiffin and classic USC Trojan response. Needs to be preserved for posterity.
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
Good point.
Also, if you go over to Conquest ChronicLoLs you’ll find nothing but ad hominem attacks and trite stereotypes. If anything is pathetic, that is.
To Strive, To Seek, To Find, and Not to Yield.
sounds like GVX
COEXISTence is difficult when core beliefs are mutually exclusive and those on the other side keep blowing up buildings, people, etc.
Muhammed sez: "Don't Lase Me Bro!"
Except there isn't a 5 day waiting period to comment in order to keep others from rebuttal.
To Strive, To Seek, To Find, and Not to Yield.
And, for the record Joel
I don’t think you should change the way RTT is run at all. It is better because that kind of garbage that is going on over there is not allowed necessary when you don’t need to encite more blog hits.
I was just voicing my displeasure with what was going on over there after you talked him up as being some kind of classy guy. My anger has nothing to do with Rocky Top Talk.
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"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"
And now they're back on the southern envy thing and civil war argument.
Get something new. It just makes you look even worse.
To Strive, To Seek, To Find, and Not to Yield.
Brent Hubbs is saying
that either Dooley or Hamilton offered to play USC in 2012 and 2013 and USC said no. ($) Detente.
Front page this please
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
Cool
That would not only prove what gramsey said, but also put a lot of Chroniclol feet in a lot of Chroniclol mouth
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
Someone...
needs to move an NFL franchise to LA so people can get back to not attending USC games again.
Nothing prettier than 30,000 empty seats in the Coliseum.
The better paid players would keep the better attendance
So everybody would still go to the Trogan games.
HIYOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by gramsey712 on Jul 7, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Also acceptable would have been:
USC could just play an NFL schedule, but then the players would have to take pay cuts.
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As an aside...
200+ comments on a Wednesday afternoon is pretty impressive. Think we’re ready for football time in Tennessee?
To Strive, To Seek, To Find, and Not to Yield.
This is the first time we've broken 200+ since the NFL Draft
We’re getting closer and closer to the real thing…and clearly, we’re ready for it.
Only the timing was unfortunate
Really? In the middle of Germany/Spain?
Joel, you aren’t dropping any bombs right before the World Cup Final, are you? Netherlands vs. Spain. Sunday. 2:30 EDT. Let’s go ORANJE!
by Incipient_Senescence on Jul 7, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
La Furia Roja!
I know the Dutch wear orange, but I gotta support my boys from Spain. I’m already clearing 2 hours on my vacation to watch the game on Sunday.
This entire post is one big secondary violation.
Simulated Gameday Experience - just like the real thing, only we have smoke machines.
by Chris Pendley on Jul 7, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So you know the occasional Fake [REDACTED] that Orson busts out on EDSBS from time to time?
This entire thing reminds me of this. “Lost a guy? All part of the plan. Getting better. Working hard. Just swallowed six dozen raw eggs. Feel the burn.”
Simulated Gameday Experience - just like the real thing, only we have smoke machines.
Great post Joel.
I wanted to point something out when you quoted CC. I counted 3 (SIC)s in your quote box. Those of us who got into our first choice for a university know Trogans to be horrific spellers. To this point, we have a saying, “You can’t spell USC with . . . . well, a USC grad.”
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
whoa...
i read this comment thread and got a stunning feeling of deja vu. and now i we’ve got something to really hate USC for… they’ve given bama fans and tennesee fans something that we actually agree on.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
by kleph on Jul 7, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Joel makes a lot of good points
Calling UT/Dooley pathetic over this was pretty ridiculous. Over at CC they blow a gasket if you make the slightest negative inference about Kiffin, whether it’s regarding what he said to Seantrel Henderson or his involvement in the Dillon Baxter accusations etc. Yet Joey doesn’t seem to have a problem with assuming that UT admins were solely motivated by childishness with nothing at all to support that.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
Oh yeah?
Did you make that point over there when you weren’t groveling at their feet?
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
by VolBrian on Jul 7, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I know you’re trying real hard to troll me into getting banned, but it’s not going to happen.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
Actually
That was serious as can be. Trolling you is continuing to make fun of your 3 Dothan Times National Championships.
Oh, and the one from the Verbena Daily as well.
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
Heisman trophy? Phht. Haven’t you seen Peyton Manning’s Lawrence County Advocate Player of the Year Award?
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
Naw
That one got overlooked because the Advocate was too busy awarding Alabama a 35th NC for Saban’s 6-6 rookie year.
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
6-6… you know, we lost to UL-Monroe yet we still beat Tennessee 41-17. Ouch!
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
And
That’s why the Henegar Star awarded you another National Championship
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
You would think
He wouldn’t have been your first considering you guys have had 140 of teh bestest teams in 120ish years of college football. o.O
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
well... yes
if you count spring games as a short “season.”
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
The Two Faces of Zoltar.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
I'm so cute
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
Seriously, Zoltar
From what I have seen you just LOVE trying to play the role of double agent.
Placatory diversity is not necessarily a noble or worthwile goal…especially when a quick glance tells me that your rate of contradiction is approximately 38% and rising steadily.
I privately made note of this a week or two back. I would have eventually called you out…but that’s what VolBrian is here for.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
What on god's earth are you babbling about?
If you want to talk about contradictions, how about the fact that VolBrian is constantly embarrassing himself by mocking UA’s championships when Tennessee claims 1967, a 9-2 season including a loss in the Orange Bowl. How about the fact that you all reveled in Kiffin’s buffoonery and now want to claim the moral high ground.
How about the embarrassment of making fan posts obsessing over ME making a joke on another blog site (which got rec’s and LOL’s, so obviously some people found it funny).
My advice: stop obsessing over me and worrying about “calling me out”.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
Oh no! He's losing it!
Must’ve been a hard day of counting…….takes a lot of work searching old small-town newspapers on microfiche for any occurence of the words championship and Alabama on the same page.
I hope you were able to add a few more after all your hard work LOLtar. That’s the only “LOL” you get around here btw.
"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan
Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.
Part of me wonders if this is just a really elaborate troll job by CC.
If so, it worked.
Simulated Gameday Experience - just like the real thing, only we have smoke machines.
by Chris Pendley on Jul 7, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
This has been waiting to happen every day for six months
today just happened to be the day – which as several have pointed out, also happens to be the day that USC has apologized to just about every school they’ve claimed tampered with the Baxter kid.
I expected it on our end.
I didn’t expect it on theirs.
Simulated Gameday Experience - just like the real thing, only we have smoke machines.
by Chris Pendley on Jul 8, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't think so...
paragon and dc trojan are sharp guys and have had good analysis of the situation since the start. it’s certainly homer-centric, but their intent has been to try and separate the wheat and the chaff from their readers.
but contributors like this and a staggering number of the commenters seriously believe these points. we’ve had several exchanges with them over the past several months explaining pretty much exactly how the ncaa has acted in the past (because lord knows we’re now experts on that) and the response has generally been “that will never happen to us.”
as an observer from outside the conference it’s a really perplexing mindset to understand. a lot of the… interesting logic i see from tennessee and auburn fanbases on occasion tends to make a certain sense at some point given our familiarity with the given rivalries. but this is more of an assault on all forms of common sense and against everyone else who possibly could disagree.
at times i get the feeling they seriously believe the school might threaten to leave the ncaa with the idea that everyone will beg them to return as to save college football.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
That's why this makes no sense to me.
I wouldn’t expect this of them, so maybe it’s something like cacophonous thought / hivemind. It’s just generally odd, and unexpected.
Simulated Gameday Experience - just like the real thing, only we have smoke machines.
by Chris Pendley on Jul 8, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
And another "small victory" for USC
with the transfer of Byron Moore.
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/23590/another-player-bolts-usc
The victories...
…they are mounting.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Kiffin is King of Moral Victories
He’s also still the king of brainwashing fanbases. I fell for his mess, and it seems he hasn’t lost his touch.
The only vested interest I have in USC is a big ugly from the offensive line.
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