NCAA Speaking With Bryce Brown About Lane Kiffin
The NCAA, continuing to indulge its fascination with the scat Lane Kiffin left behind in Knoxville, now has asked to speak with former Vol running back Bryce Brown about Kiffin's recruiting practices during Tennessee's Rumspringa.
Brown's father recently delayed the NCAA's investigative team because he was busy preparing for Bryce's appeal of Derek Dooley's decision not to grant Brown a release to play at Kansas State. That appeal hearing concluded yesterday with a 90-minute teleconference, so the investigative team should now be ushered in from the waiting room.
Pardon a quick tangent here: Dooley said his decision not to grant a release was based on the same three factors he uses in all situations, one of which was "the harm that their departure creates for the organization." Whether he meant to limit the harm to the program to that resulting from the player's departure, I don't know, but it probably shouldn't be so limited. Suppose something was rule-breaking hinky about Brown's arrival on Rocky Top and suppose Dooley suspected that. Might that figure in to whether Brown would get a release?
Regardless, Dooley's decision not to grant a release to Brown almost certainly won't help with the intangibles during the investigation. The Browns are probably ticked off about both the current and prior regime at Tennessee now, and while that shouldn't change the facts they relate to the NCAA officials, it likely won't help the tone.
But that's not the most concerning bit about this news. No, that would be found in this statement from Arthur Brown:
"They said they want to talk about the recruiting practices of Tennessee under Kiffin," Arthur Brown said. "We have nothing to hide. We have no need to be deceptive. If we made a mistake I can say it would not have been intentional. But I think this is about more than Bryce."
That's a solid statement up until the italics, which I've added for emphasis. Saying they have nothing to hide is a good, strong denial, and saying they have "no need to be deceptive" is a well-crafted way of gaining credibility by saying they're not going to lie because they have no reason to do so.
But then he says, "If we made a mistake I can say it would not have been intentional."
That there is like laying the groundwork for a plea deal. Seasoned investigators could view that statement, because it was given at such a preliminary stage, as an accidental concession that something wasn't quite right, even if the evidence might at the end of the day be insufficient to establish a serious infraction. If viewed in that manner, the investigators may work even harder to uncover hard evidence of intent or, more likely, additional circumstantial evidence of intent.
In any event, none of this is good. We're three weeks away from launching a new era with a clean slate, and even if absolutely nothing comes of the investigation, it's still a distraction, and honestly, we fans could do without the continual reminders of our mistake in judgment in going for a joy ride with Lane Kiffin.
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Kiffinbash 2009 has left us all with quite the hangover.
Bring it across, shape it down
by Getoffmyvols on Aug 12, 2010 9:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm totally at peace with this.
Let them air things out. If the Browns end up getting an NCAA slap on UT, that’s ok with me. It closes a chapter, and this fiasco will be over with far faster than the Reggie Bush one took for USC.
I know you’re seeing it from a lawyer’s eyes. While he might be thinking far enough ahead to be trying to mitigate a ruling, I feel he’s simply trying to improve public opinion of the Brown’s side of the story. Sort of a “hey, we only did what we thought was right” kind of a deal.
Oh, and since the NCAA tends to mete punishments based on the games an ineligible player actually played in, I can’t see how the lack of a release hurts UT. Even if the Browns try to twist things against UT, all we’re looking at is a redaction of wins under Kiffin.
Let that one sink in for a bit and smile.
Well
What’s been missed behind our apparent crush on Bryce Brown’s punishment is the fact that the NCAA also interviewed hostess Lacey Earps yesterday as well.
If something comes of that, Corey Miller might be staring down the barrel of a redshirt because of ineligibility.
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Hooper, I have to tell you buddy.....
I never thought in my life I would ever say this, but I am really beginning to feel for you guys with this whole Lane Kiffin deal. I dont think I have ever seen this much grief brought down on a school AFTER a guy is gone. And I am not just talking the NCAA here. It just seems like every time you guys have dealt with this guy and his crap and moved on, it rears it’s ugly head again. Dooley seems like not only a decent guy but a good coach, hopefully he can fix this and move on. Condolences.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Thanks.
It’s part of the price. We supported the guy while he was here. We all were excited about the recruits he was bringing in and the possibilities for the future that we saw in our heads. The day before he left UT, he had a fairly high approval rating from the Orange, so it’s not like we can completely disown last year’s events.
It’ll end eventually. And I think it’ll end for UT far sooner than it will end for Kiffin, to be honest.
by David Hooper on Aug 12, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I keep thinking that if Kiffin were Catholic
when he left confession the priest would bolt out of the confessional just to see who in the world he was talking to……hehehe
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Memphis?
The COEXIST bumper sticker is ridiculous. How are people supposed to get along when one side is flying planes into tall buildings or wearing sweater vests full of C4 and nails? The faiths are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
by memphispete on Aug 12, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Made it longer than I thought before someone pointed that out
by Will Shelton on Aug 12, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Only took that long because I was busy working.... ;)
The COEXIST bumper sticker is ridiculous. How are people supposed to get along when one side is flying planes into tall buildings or wearing sweater vests full of C4 and nails? The faiths are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
Every passing day makes me a little bit happier that Kiffin was only here for one year...
January 12 should become a UT holiday, with celebratory mattress-burning.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
by birdjam on Aug 12, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, with every passing day Kiffin . . .
becomes more and more like the proverbial stripper your brother met in Vegas and thought he was in love with, but who left him at the altar. You all might have been hurt and angry at first. But now, as the bills on those credit cards you didn’t know about come in and the Federal Marshals are informing you of her 17 aliases, it’s starting to look like you may have gotten out of that relationship just in time.
At least that’s how it would go if SEC football were an episode of Two and a Half Men.
Good analogy, but...
… instead of criminal/financial reminders, these stories feel more like herpes flare-ups.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
by birdjam on Aug 12, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There really might be something to this.
Especially since that’s after the year is over, BCS title game included. Kind of a post-season celebration of sorts.
by David Hooper on Aug 12, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
In all seriousness though...
Reading back through all of the stories from during Brown’s recruitment (the Butler saga) and the struggle to get him eligible in time for WKU, I am wondering what new info has come to light that would make the NCAA want to go back to Brown. I would have thought that any alleged improprieties would have been fresher (and witnesses would have remembered more) during their last investigation of Bryce, unless they strictly stuck to questions about the Butler situation, which I would find a little hard to believe.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
NCAA wants more info on Kiffin
I think they’ve gone back to Brown to uncover how Kiffin operates in order to land the #1 recruit in the nation. They want to know his procedure. UT will get hurt if they find he acted in the wrong way, but it seems that ultimately they want to know more about how Kiffin recruits so “well”.
Kiffin was part of the USC problem
from the Reggies Bush years and now is serving the sentence. I am just glad we will not face the same fate! I have a bad feeling about how Arthur Brown might twist the truth to hurt us due to the release.

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