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Tennessee Volunteers Vs. Oregon Ducks: Game Preview And Stat Comparison

A weekly look at our upcoming opponent's recent history, with animated drive charts, links to SB Nation game pages, and statistical comparisons.

CAVEATS: I don't want to hear it. We have only one 2010 game for each team to look at in previewing this weekend's matchup. No, we're not going to draw concrete conclusions based on what happened in those games and predict with any even minute degree of certainty what it means for this weekend, but neither are we going to ignore what happened last week just because it doesn't hold the power of a Magic 8 Ball. Just because data is insufficient doesn't mean it doesn't have something to say. Cool? Cool.

Also, this is a long post, so I've put the conclusions and predictions before and after the meat.

Particularly Sketchy Conclusions

  • It's nice to finally have data to work with and all, but really, we can conclude very little about each team's respective season-opening blowout wins. (Yes, this is the second time I've said that, and it won't be the last.)
  • Much of the Ducks' success last week was made easier due to excellent starting field position.
  • Oregon's offense appears to be quite well-balanced. As many superlatives as they earned last week, QB is found a bit further down the bell curve.
  • The Ducks' defense was solid, keeping New Mexico mostly on the wrong side of the field. If there was one thing they didn't beat everyone else at last week, it was sacks, as they only had one during the entire blowout/shutout.
  • They were loaded at running back last week, and with the return of LaMichael James this week, they will be ALL CAPS LOADED.
  • If Cliff Harris returns a punt for a TD against the Vols, expect a thousand mentions of "Brandon James" and "special teams" within five words of "[FULMERIZED]" in the comment thread.

Predictions

  • Oregon 35, Tennessee 24. Sorry.

Schedule and Animated Drive Charts

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Kentucky Logo
New Mexico Lobos 9/4/10 win 72 - 0 coverage

 

FULL SCREEN VERSION

 

Hmm. Where to begin? How about with the fact that anytime the first drive line obscures the yard line numbers, it means there was an OVERSIZED LOAD AHEAD of possessions. Let's see. Yes, 32 to be exact.

What else? I mean, apart from the fact that it looks like nearly a perfect game? Field position, for one. Except for two of their first three possessions, the Ducks consistently had great starting field position. Oh, and this: those TDs without any drive lines at all were special teams TDs, punt returns by Cliff Harris, specifically. And this: an average of just over six plays per drive, and they scored on 12 of 16 possessions. Of the four they didn't score on, one was due to them miraculously possessing the ball when the game clock expired, one was an interception at the seven yard line, and one was a missed field goal from the nine yard line.

And we haven't even talked about the defense. But I'm already tired, so all I'll say is that New Mexico got past midfield only three times and never got any further than the 35.

National Unit Rankings

Now on to the national rankings.

OFFENSIVE RANKINGS
Category National
Rank
Actual National
Leader
Actual Conf
Rank
Pacific-10
Conference Leader
Actual
Rushing Offense 4 369.00 Air Force 437.00 1 Oregon 369.00
Passing Offense 7 351.00 Hawaii 459.00 2 Arizona 413.00
Total Offense 1 720.00 Oregon 720.00 1 Oregon 720.00
Scoring Offense 1 72.00 Oregon 72.00 1 Oregon 72.00
Passing Efficiency 34 154.32 Mississippi St. 262.99 6 Stanford 236.40
Sacks Allowed T-1 .00 UCF .00 1 Oregon .00

 

Offensive observations. You read the opening caveats, right? Okay. Yeah, it was New Mexico, but hooboy, I'd hate to live in a world where 72 points and 720 yards wasn't 1st in both total and scoring offense. Note, too, the remarkable balance: 369 yards on the ground and 351 through the air. If there's any good news to be found here, it's that there are six teams somewhere in the nation with a better passing offense and 33 QBs with a better passing efficiency. After week ones against nobodies, anyway. Onward.

DEFENSIVE RANKINGS
Category National
Rank
Actual National
Leader
Actual Conf
Rank
Pacific-10
Conference Leader
Actual
Rushing Defense 7 25.00 Kent St. -65.00 2 California 14.00
Pass Efficiency Defense 5 54.76 Ohio .00 1 Oregon 54.76
Total Defense 2 107.00 California 81.00 2 California 81.00
Scoring Defense 1 .00 West Virginia .00 1 Oregon .00
Pass Defense 10 82.00 Ohio .00 3 UCLA 64.00
Sacks T-60 1.00 Miami (FL) 8.00 8 UCLA 6.00
Tackles For Loss T-20 8.00 Miami (FL) 14.00 2 UCLA 9.00

 

Defensive observations. Solid, of course, as you'd expect from a shutout. A bit of good news here, though, and that is as much as the Ducks had their way with the Lobos on both sides of the ball, they didn't do much damage in their backfield. Eight TFLs is nothing to sneeze at, but you'd think they could have managed more than a single sack in that game.

SPECIAL TEAMS AND TURNOVERS RANKINGS
Category National
Rank
Actual National
Leader
Actual Conf
Rank
Pacific-10
Conference Leader
Actual
Net Punting 106 .00 Michigan 51.00 10 Arizona St. 50.00
Punt Returns 1 44.67 Oregon 44.67 1 Oregon 44.67
Kickoff Returns 104 9.00 Central Mich. 81.00 9 UCLA 27.50
Turnover Margin 1 4.00 Oregon 4.00 1 Oregon 4.00

 

Special teams and turnovers observations. Well. When you return two punts for TDs in the first game, you'd think you'd lead the nation in punt returns. Beware the data (again), but they didn't do so well against New Mexico in the kickoff returns and net punting departments. These guys stink!

Stastical Comparison

I haven't asked Hooper to crank up the wizbang BlogPoll Computerer yet because I know better. In fact, the repeated caveats scattered liberally througout this post are designed solely to keep Hooper's brain from squirting out his pores. So no BlogPoll Computerer comparison until Hooper gives the green light and takes his heart medication.

Players to Watch

Category Player National
Rank
Actual
Rushing Kenjon Barner 11 147.00
Remene Alston T-27 110.00
Daryle Hawkins T-89 68.00
Passing Efficiency (Min. 15 Att./Game) Darron Thomas 33 156.87
Nate Costa 150.03
Total Offense Darron Thomas 55 220.00
Kenjon Barner T-94 147.00
Nate Costa 96 145.00
Remene Alston 110.00
Daryle Hawkins 68.00
Receptions Per Game Jeffrey Maehl T-61 5.00
Josh Huff 3.00
Receiving Yards Per Game Jeffrey Maehl T-45 91.00
Kenjon Barner 60.00
Josh Huff 45.00
David Paulson 42.00
Interceptions Avery Patterson T-3 1.00
Casey Matthews T-3 1.00
Punting (Min. 3.6 Punts/Game)
Punt Returns (Min. 1.2 Ret./Game) Cliff Harris 1 62.50
Kickoff Returns (Min. 1.2 Ret./Game)
Field Goals Eric Solis T-3 3.00
Scoring Kenjon Barner 1 30.00
Eric Solis T-6 18.00
Cliff Harris T-22 12.00
Daryle Hawkins 6.00
David Paulson 6.00
All-Purpose Runners Kenjon Barner 6 225.00
Cliff Harris T-92 125.00
Remene Alston T-94 124.00
Jeffrey Maehl 91.00
Daryle Hawkins 78.00
Sacks Spencer Paysinger T-27 1.00
Tackles
Tackles For Loss Brandon Bair T-19 2.50
John Boyett T-84 1.50
Spencer Paysinger T-84 1.50
Javes Lewis 1.00


Observations

Running backs. Kenjon Barner, whose name for some reason conjures up images of a convenience store in Auburn, Alabama, got 147 yards last week. Oregon's running game was so proficient that three RBs finished the week ranked in the top 100. And none of those guys will be the main guy this week, as LaMichael James returns from a suspension for "offseason trouble," which of course we know nothing about. James finished last season ranked as the 9th-leading rusher in the nation. Which is nice. So yeah, the running backs? Watch out for them.

Quarterback. Honestly, with the score and the offensive output of last week's game, I expected better numbers from Darron Thomas. Still, he was the Head Duck in Charge against New Mexico, so yeah, watch out for him, too.

Receivers/Tight Ends. Jeffrey Maehl, whose name my fingers refuse to type correctly without complaining, appears to be the team's go-to receiver. Again, though, you'd expect better numbers from the receivers, all things considered. The bad news is it probably means they shared the ball among many WR threats, so yeah, let's put them on the watch list, too.

Defense. Avery Patterson (DB) and Casey Matthews (LB) both had interceptions last week. Four different guys had tackles for lossses, and those came from everywhere (a DL, an LB, and two DBs). DL Brandon Bair ("kilt him a bar, when he was only three!") looks like he did the most damage behind the line with 2.5 TFLs. LB Spencer Paysinger had a sack.

Special teams. Our punting and punt coverage better be good this week because Cliff Harris, who ran two punts back for TDs last week, looks like the real deal after only one week.

Head to Head Comparisons

  Tennessee Logo Oregon Logo
Best Comparable
Result Against Best Comparable
Prediction
UT rush v. Oregon rush defense

332
(#7)

25
(#7)
UT Martin
(FCS)
332
120
UT pass v. Oregon pass defense 205
(#63)
82
(#10)
UT Martin
(FCS)
205
80
Oregon rush v. UT rush defense 56
(#20)
369
(#4)
UT Martin
(FCS)
56
180
Oregon pass v. UT pass defense 86
(T#12)
351
(#7)
UT Martin
(FCS)
86
140
UT scoring offense v. Oregon scoring defense 50
(#14)
0
(T#1)
UT Martin
(FCS)
50
24
Oregon scoring offense v. UT scoring defense 0
(T#1)
72
(#1)
UT Martin
(FCS)
0
35

 

Even when we have a full season of data, this section will include the caveat that these are informed guesses rather than mathematical calculations. This week in particular, I'm just pulling the predictions out of thin air and making sure they're significantly below the ceilings and above the floors of last week. That said, WOOOO IT'S THE NATION'S #1 OFFENSE AGAINST THE NATION'S #1 DEFENSE WOOO. SRSLY GUYS!

Particularly Sketchy Conclusions

  • It's nice to finally have data to work with and all, but really, we can conclude very little about each team's respective season-opening blowout wins. (Yes, this is the second time I've said that, and it won't be the last.)
  • Much of the Ducks' success last week was made easier due to excellent starting field position.
  • Oregon's offense appears to be quite well-balanced. As many superlatives as they earned last week, QB is found a bit further down the bell curve.
  • The Ducks' defense was solid, keeping New Mexico mostly on the wrong side of the field. If there was one thing they didn't beat everyone else at last week, it was sacks, as they only had one during the entire blowout/shutout.
  • They were loaded at running back last week, and with the return of LaMichael James this week, they will be ALL CAPS LOADED.
  • If Cliff Harris returns a punt for a TD against the Vols, expect a thousand mentions of "Brandon James" and "special teams" within five words of "[FULMERIZED]" in the comment thread.

Predictions

  • Oregon 35, Tennessee 24. Sorry.

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Another excellent write-up

Cliff Harris is the 2nd string punt returner though. Kenjon Barner will be returning punts again now that LaMichael James is back.

And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!

by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 10, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

At about 1:20 in this video, Chip Kelly confirms it in case anyone is wondering how a guy who returned 2 punts for TD’s could be relegated back to 2nd string.

And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!

by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 10, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great point!

And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!

by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 10, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in it for the jokes.

Related: I’m a MWC fan and I’m watching to see how long until Locksley is fired. They were respectable before he got a hold of ’em.

by David Hooper on Sep 10, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and I bring that up to say that I feel a bit sorry for Oregon on that game. You scheduled a much better team than the one you played. Not that the better UNM would have come close to winning, but it would have been a much better value for the ticket.

by David Hooper on Sep 10, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know what you mean. I can’t believe that he’s still there between the crazy stuff he’s gotten himself into and the losing. The Ducks are getting ripped a little bit for “scheduling soft” but there was no way to know that New Mexico would be that bad when we scheduled them. We aren’t getting ripped because of Tennessee, just to be clear. Everyone recognizes that this is not a soft game.

And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!

by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 10, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Relatively speaking, Tennessee is soft for what it could have been.

We can be honest with each other. Over the last 20 years of Tennessee football, this is not one of their stronger teams. They have the potential to get there, but the recent upheavals, new coaches and schemes, lack of roster depth, etc. are logistically too much for this year to be favorably compared against most. It is what it is.

That said, it’s also fair to note (like you do) that a down Tennessee year is still a good team, and one that can still pull off a win if they get the breaks. Like everybody else, I expect Oregon to win, but hope isn’t irrational either.

I think UNM’s problem is that Locksley is only in his second year. It’s politically difficult to pull the plug on a guy that quickly, especially when the AD that hired him is still in place. I don’t know his buyout (and really don’t care to research it), but I can’t imagine that UNM has a lot of cash on hand.

by David Hooper on Sep 10, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kool Aid Addict

No! No! No! Its not true none of it! 60 – 0 Tennessee wins!!! /sobs quietly in the corner

Seriously i think this score is probably pretty close. I think it will be hard fought game but I think our very green freshmen may simply run out of gas by the 4th quarter.

BloodSpite
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football." John Heisman

by Joseph Stanley on Sep 10, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

So long as UT doesn't get Boise'd in the first quarter, I agree.

That’s my only real concern this game: does UT get discombobulated?

Win or lose, I’m more concerned about looking forward, and a well-disciplined game gives a lot of reason for optimism, even in the face of a 2+ score deficit.

by David Hooper on Sep 10, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also…on the score I think you are about correct on the margin, but I think maybe a little high on both scores. I think the Ducks defense gets it’s first chance to show how good it really is, and I think the combination of Thomas’s relative inexperience, playing in front of a huge crowd in a college football mecca, and the Vols underrated defense causes the Ducks offense to be a little out of rhythm.

Ducks 27 – Vols 17

And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!

by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 10, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another story...

Eric Solis is a walk-on freshman that nobody knew much about before last week’s game. He too is going back to second string position after scoring 18 points.

Everything fell just right for him to get the start… I can not imagine how it must have felt to start for a nationally ranked team in your first college game ever, sold out at home, and have a game like that, especially as a walk-on.

I’ve enjoyed coming over to your site this week, lots of good stuff.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by webfoot73 on Sep 10, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Good Luck Tennessee

I’m interested to see how a Justin Wilcox defense performs with SEC talent against Oregon’s speed.

by intergalactic_bronco on Sep 10, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on guys give them back there forum.

But seriously, i just want to see a good, hard working, injury free game from both teams.

Go ducks!!

by PondJunky on Sep 10, 2010 3:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Amen!

As I mentioned on my site I use to watch the Ducks while I lived in Seattle.

UT games were impossible to get.

So this is sorta like watching my wife and a old girlfriend duke it out :)

BloodSpite
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football." John Heisman

by Joseph Stanley on Sep 10, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Good luck tomorrow vols

As a future PAC team, I’m curious to see how Doolery does here, and how well teh Ducks travel.

May the best team win, fair and square.

by Aardvark on Sep 10, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Sportsmanship, I tell ya....

Maybe it’s the foregone conclusion from the Oregon faithfull, maybe its the calm before the storm…but i tell you, i havent seen such sportsmanship in a rival fanbase as i’ve seen on the Oregon Trail. i even see Craigslist ads of Ducks wanting to share tailgates with the Orange-blooded, Bluetick-Baying, Rocky-Top Twangin, Y’all Drawlin, 100 year+and proud Vol Nation. You guys are great!! really!!!

But this ain’t the west coast…and you havent come into Neyland Cathedral and won anything just yet. Even a wounded dog can bite…thats Tennessee Pride!

I hope y’all enjoy your sweet tea and your tourist pictures…
V-O-L-S, GO VOLS GO!!!!!

by Duck, on Sep 10, 2010 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

It's respect.

It’s not a sense of forgone conclusion, it’s respect. Respect for the history and tradition. I think Duck fans see in Vol fans the kind of pride that they share for their own team. It’s just different in most other pac 10 fan bases. We share more in common with you by far than any California team for sure!

by Bubaduck on Sep 11, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

So Joel's predicting an 11-point Duck win.

And I predicted us wining my a billion. So maybe we can agree the truth lies somewhere in between (i.e. us winning by 500,000,005)

by _trey_ on Sep 10, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

This.

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I will give my North Carolina for Tennessee Today. Apparently.

by bobothevol on Sep 10, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck tomorrow Vols

and thanks for being awesome over here.

Go Ducks!

axemen23: the human vuvuzela

by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 11, 2010 2:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Finally!!

Hey guys. New to this site, so I don’t know if this will get posted in time.

 I thought I’d fill you in, also adding my opinion on the game.

First off, I am a die hard college football fan. It is by far my preferred sport, and come Saturday, I watch every game I can get my eyes on from 9 in the morning until the last minute of the last game. That’s not even including the off Thursday, Friday, Monday, etc. game. As a result of this unwavering obsession, I love every teams’ traditions and history.

No doubt, I think UT is one of those great schools. From the checker board endzones to the epically large stadium, you guys are a great thing to see come game day. Further, if I were to pick an SEC team I enjoy the most, it might be the Vols. There’s something about you guys—perhaps the delightfully hideous uniforms (something we Duck fans no about)—that I enjoy, and I always try to watch UT games.

That being said, tradition doesn’t win football games. If that were the case, Notre Dame would still be stomping on opponents. History and tradition is brought up a lot; but, as a 25 year old, history and tradition are different for me. No, Oregon does not have the prestige of UT. You must, however, consider, that I’ve only been following college ball since 1999-2000. That being said, Oregon’s tradition, in my mind, is just as strong as anybody’s. With 3 Pac-10 titles, 2 BCS bowl games, 3 legit Heisman contenders/finalists, 5 top twelve finishes, multiple #2 rankings and finishes, only one losing season, and wins over Texas, Oklahoma, Michigan, Wisconsin, Colorado (during the good years), etc. have made Oregon, in my younger eyes, a modern traditional power.

There is no doubt that UT wouldn’t trade with UO’s long history; however, there aren’t many teams who wouldn’t switch their past 10 or so years with ours. Oregon burst onto the college football map in 1994 (after having turned around our long-sunken ship in 1989 or so) and haven’t looked back. As far as I’m concerned, the Ducks have had as good of a modern era as anyone—ESPECIALLY when you consider it’s a little state with less than 4 million people and miles from truly fertile recruiting ground. If you think about the grand scheme, what they’ve done in terms of winning tradition and national brand imaging, it’s nothing short of amazing.

UO is filled with forward-thinking, avant-garde, ad trailblazing types who enjoy counter culture and creative ideas (one of the many reasons I left LA to attend school up there). I think our football team truly reflects the spirit of Oregon, with their love of cutting edge businesses, craft beer, independent everything, Nike, unique advertising agencies, etc. In the end, we’re just a fun team to watch with the spread offense, uniforms, stadium, and tempo. I just hope we can impress you guys with our play. Even though we’re not a small program by any means (nationally known, Pac-10 school), it would still be awesome to earn the respect of UT fans.

About our team…

As you’ve read, our team is fast and explosive, but more importantly, experienced. A loaded and experienced UO offense has not been stopped in the Chip Kelly era. Whenever the O has had a bad game, it’s been experienced defenses taking advantage of a young offense. They always catch their rhythm at some point or another and even when they lose, they lose with big offensive numbers. Yes, Wilcox made the team look bad last year, but consider: 5 new lineman, new running back, 2 new receivers, new offensive coordinator, new head coach, new receivers coach. That’s 8 new offensive players and 3 new O coaches trying to get everything together against a top-10 team on the road. Wilcox had a great game plan, but how can ANY offensive team play well under those conditions?

Our D has been called undersized, and while I believe that is somewhat true, it doesn’t hold entirely true. People are basing that off last year’s unit, without acknowledging a few important factors regarding our size (*weights are rough and not exact):

1. Our STARTING defensive tackles are small because we like to run to the ball. This year, our coaches rotate 8 players on the D-line, and our second string line, which plays a ton, has a lot more size, especially at D-tackle with Keliikipi weighing a solid 290 and Hemuili coming in at 315+. Those guys will see plenty of time with your bigger O-line. Also, our starting DT Brandon Bair added some weight, adding 10 pounds to his 6’7" frame (now 270+ pounds).

2. Eddie Pleasant was our starting outside backer last year at 215. He added a few pounds, was moved to SS, and was replaced by Josh Kaddu at OLB, who weighs 235. That’s multiple lbs added to the D-line, about 20 pounds at backer (plus Matthews and Paysinger gainging a couple pounds), and handful of pounds at safety. While still smaller compared to some really huge teams, it’s a much thicker D than last year’s—one better built to stop a grinding offense. Only one team truly pounded the ball on us last year, that being Stanford. Yes, it worked because they had a HUGE O-line, ran two tight end sets, and had the grossly talented and enormous Toby Gearhart. BUT, they also had an all-world QB whose ridiculous accuracy prevented us from truly stacking the box. I don’t think you guys will be able to do the same with a young QB and new WRs

There are for sure some Duck fans out there who talk like it will be a walk in the park. Although I’m personally nervous (and what legit fan isn’t nervous going into big games), I think UO should win pretty easily, as in a 15-20 point victory. Regardless, I guarantee you this team is NOT taking the game lightly. Traveling to Neyland is a once-in-a-lifetime game for these guys, and they’re not going to waste it by thinking they’ll crush you guys by the end of the second quarter. This team, conversely, takes big games very seriously. And they also love the opportunity as fans, not just players. For them, Neyland is a mecca, the same way they treated the Michigan game in ’07. I can assure you that the Duck players and staff—as well as most of its fans—respect everything UT stands for and are extremely excited for this game.

This game will be close for a little while based on Darron Thomas’ (in)experience, but the team is so loaded everywhere else that it would be something drastic to truly stop them tomorrow. You guys will no doubt take this game seriously, as a visiting #7 teams always deserves to be taken seriously. And I also have no doubt that your players—win or lose—will make it a blast to watch.

As a Duck fan and college football fan, allow me to say this:

I am so pumped for this game, as I’ve been counting down the days since I heard you were scheduled. I can’t wait to see my beloved team run around on such storied grounds, just like at UMich. I appreciate you guys welcoming Duck fans and treating them like friends and neighbors. I hope you guys play well tomorrow and for the rest of the season (it would certainly make a win over you guys look good). I have no doubt you’ll be back, and I really like Dooley. He’s just what you guys need right now. Thanks so much the opportunity, no injuries for both of us, have a great game, don’t get too sh**-faced, and go Ducks!!

by DuckIt on Sep 11, 2010 6:23 AM EDT reply actions  

With you on craft beer

Have never liked Nike. Adidas just makes higher quality gear, at least for my sport (soccer).

Also would not trade our modern history for yours. Since ‘94, we have one national title and have been in the hunt late in the year on five other occasions (’95, ’96, ’97, ’99, ’01).

Regarding institutional drawbacks, you forgot the part where you actually have a major university in-state to compete with for recruiting. We have Vanderbilt and Memphis. Not the same thing.

Looks like it’ll be raining all day, and I don’t know whose favor that plays into. Either way, I’m calling 31-20 Ducks. But I hope I’m wrong. GO VOLS!

by Incipient_Senescence on Sep 11, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

EEEEEASY there shakespear....

“There is no doubt that UT wouldn’t trade with UO’s long history; however, there aren’t many teams who wouldn’t switch their past 10 or so years with ours. Oregon burst onto the college football map in 1994 (after having turned around our long-sunken ship in 1989 or so) and haven’t looked back. As far as I’m concerned, the Ducks have had as good of a modern era as anyone—ESPECIALLY when you consider it’s a little state with less than 4 million people and miles from truly fertile recruiting ground. If you think about the grand scheme, what they’ve done in terms of winning tradition and national brand imaging, it’s nothing short of amazing”

really? the little engine that could speech? There is so much wrong with your statement its impossible to find a starting point. so i wont bother. except for this.

Football is all about history…its about remembering, building on the past and having pride in the players (past, present and future). It is, in fact…very much like a religion in the south, where we pray for Salvation for our souls and victory for our teams.

but you go on with your fertile ground speech…we’ll just GO VOLS!!!!

PS. dont tell Dan Fouts about Oregon bursting onto the scene in ’94. it may hurt his feelings

by Duck, on Sep 11, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Woops

Let me rephrase something. I forgot to rearrange the sentence when I changed the last half of it.

I know UT would never trade their history with ours. The point I was making is that you, as would be the case with many traditionally top teams, or any team for that matter, would love the type of modern era (as in decade) that we put up. I’m all about history. I believe in the preservation of the English language, I love America’s past, I love respecting traditions, I always give classic literature the nod, I worship the Los Angeles Dodgers’ history. Hell, I’m Italian—do you have any idea the kind of traditions and history I have to follow and acknowledge?

BUT, in sports, especially for my young mind that never witnessed so much history in regards to things like athletic teams, I’m more of a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately kind of guy. I’ve never seen Sandy Koufax pitch. Just because he was awesome, as were the ‘50s and 60’s era Dodger teams, doesn’t mean I forgive the Dodgers for absolutely sucking this past decade. When the Dodgers played the Yankees this year, or any team better than us really, I thought “Fu**, we’re screwed. They’re so much better than us”, and not “Well, we’ve got great history, so we might put up a fight at home.”

Take Michigan State. They claimed something like 6 national championships in the 50s and 60s. What does that mean to me? I was born in ‘85. I didn’t even start following college football until ’99. I better damn well respect the accomplishment of 6 titles, but it means nothing to me in the past decade or so.

Whatever, I rambled was too long about that. I just wanted to make it clear that I admire your history, and may even be (secretly) a little jealous of it because it’s pretty awesome. But our Ducks have paved a pretty fun and successful road themselves. And come game day, it’s about which team is better, and it’s got to be considered the Ducks. Although you’re down this year, it would still be a tremendous accomplishment and a proud moment for us fans if we make a statement and impress you guys. If you want to be considered the best—as fans and teams—you want the respect of the elite programs. I think you guys DEFINITELY constitute as one, and hope you’re impressed with our teams and fanaticism (Oregon fans have got nothing else to root for outside of the Blazers, so we’re addicted to Duck football).

And hell yeah I went with the little engine that could reference. It’s not completely applicable, because we’re now known nationally and we’ve been pretty damn successful; but the Duck team was considered toxic for decades before the early 90s. Look at the country and see which teams are successful consistently. I would venture to say that none have the geographical, meteorological, recruiting, and transportation disadvantages the Ducks have. The nearest truly fertile recruiting ground is 500+ miles to the south in the Bay Area.

And sure, Dan Fouts was unbelievable and everyone knew him; but, the team wasn’t very good. As far as I know, he never went to a bowl game and maybe never even posted a winning season. I was trying to suggest that when we made the Rose Bowl in 1994, with our wildly famous “The Pick” sending us on our modern way, it was really a moment—or year—that put the Ducks back on the football map.

Seriously though. No reason to get defensive. I know what you guys have in terms of past. I think it’s awesome and it’s something that should always be commended, respected, and admired. I’m even a UT fan of sorts. I loved Fulmer, I love Peyton Manning, I love the stadium. The only thing I haven’t liked about you guys since I started following football was Lane Kiffin. I believe I acknowledged my respect for your program many times in my post. All I’m saying is that you have to recognize how good we’ve gotten because, in the past decade, any school in the country would be pleased with the type of run we’ve had, and I can assure you that traditional powers who are down, like Washington, Notre Dame, UCLA, Texas A&M, Michigan State, among others, would love to trade decades. I think that says something about how far we’ve come.

by DuckIt on Sep 11, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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