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Comparing 2010 Tennessee to 2007 Alabama

Regardless of how you feel about Alabama as a Tennessee fan, there is no denying that the Tide is one of the Vols' two biggest rivals. For decades, the two teams have determined their own worth largely, if not solely, by measuring themselves against the other. Lately, the two teams have been out of phase, with one viewing the other's great success from its own lowly pit of despair. The chasm between the teams may be deeper and wider in 2010 than it's ever been.

Yet heading into Derek Dooley's first season, Tennessee finds itself in pretty much the same place Alabama was when it hired Nick Saban just a few short seasons ago. There's been a great deal of talk this summer about Dooley having gained the bulk of his coaching experience under Saban's tutelage. When reporters asked Dooley about his coaching legend father Vince this summer, Derek would most often respectfully acknowledge the fact but also quickly note that his resume includes many more instances of Saban's name. Dooley joined Saban's staff at LSU in 2000 as recruiting coordinator and tight ends coach, won a national championship with him in 2003, and moved with him to the Miami Dolphins for the 2005 and 2006 seasons. Saban is, reportedly anyway, notoriously difficult to work for, and yet Dooley stuck with him for seven years.

So just how much like Saban is Dooley? Can he be as successful in returning the Vols to great success as Saban has been with the Crimson Tide?

We won't know the answer to those questions for several years, but we do know one thing: 2010 Tennessee looks a lot like 2007 Alabama. Remarkably, the Vols and the Tide have an identical cumulative record for the five-year span preceding the arrival of their current coaches:

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Alabama Logo Tennessee Logo
2006 6-7* 2009 7-6
2005 10-2* 2008 5-7
2004 6-6 2007 10-4
2003 4-9 2006 9-4
2002 10-3 2005 5-6
Total 36-27 Total 36-27

 

*Funny note: In looking these up, I noticed that the Alabama media guide denotes the Tide's vacated games not with the dreaded asterisk, but with a percentage sign, which has a mildly obfuscating effect on the reader. When you look at it, your first thought is, "Huh, I wonder what that means." rather than, "Oh, there's something funky about that information that means I shouldn't take it at face value." Aaaaanyway . . . .

You'll recall that Saban didn't exactly set Tuscaloosa on fire his first season, instead leading the team to a 7-6 record:

Sat 09/01/2007 WESTERN CARO. 52 - 6 W
Sat 09/08/2007 @ Vanderbilt 24 - 10 W
Sat 09/15/2007 ARKANSAS 41 - 38 W
Sat 09/22/2007 GEORGIA 23 - 26 L OT
Sat 09/29/2007 @ Florida St. ^ 14 - 21 L
Sat 10/06/2007 HOUSTON 30 - 24 W
Sat 10/13/2007 @ Mississippi 27 - 24 W
Sat 10/20/2007 TENNESSEE 41 - 17 W
Sat 11/03/2007 LSU 34 - 41 L
Sat 11/10/2007 @ Mississippi St. 12 - 17 L
Sat 11/17/2007 LA.-MONROE 14 - 21 L
Sat 11/24/2007 @ Auburn 10 - 17 L
Sun 12/30/2007 @ Colorado * ^ 30 - 24 W

 

The Tide's 2007 regular season ended with a four-game losing streak and featured a really embarrassing loss to Louisiana-Monroe followed by a really embarrassing quote from Saban. The constant refrain around the 'sphere? Alabama paid $4M for that? That's $X per win! (At one time, I think the math made it something like $666k, which was a remarkably fun statistic for someone often referred to as Nick Satan.)

Well, we all know the rest of the story. Saban's 2008 team went undefeated in the regular season, got cocky and lost the SEC championship and its bowl game to Utah, and then turned that bitter end into a national championship the following year.

Yes, Saban was a proven commodity. He'd previously won a national championship at LSU. He was a marquee hire, and 'Bama broke the bank to get him so they could build a bigger bank. Despite Dooley's apprenticeship under Saban, he is not Saban. At least not yet.

The point of this post isn't to suggest that Tennessee will go undefeated in 2011 or win the national championship in 2012. The point is this: Not only is a .500-ish 2010 season for the Vols a respectable result, it could, in fact, lay the foundation for much better things to come.

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I was a big fan of this comparison last year

And I hope I get to be one again this year. Note how competitive Saban had Alabama: every loss was one possession (as well as three one possession wins, including the bowl game). They got the one big win to make them believe (which came at our expense).

Biggest thing here is losing the team – after that loss to eventual National Champion LSU, I think the guys who’d been through all of that stuff beforehand really lost focus. That Mississippi State team was 7-5, but Alabama had more talent. And obviously, LA-Monroe was a disaster.

We asked Todd at RBR about this on the podcast last year, and he said at the end of the year, despite the slide at the end, Bama fans looked back at their roster and realized they really had no business beating us like they did, competing with LSU, etc. If Saban could do that with so little in year one, you knew you could put faith in the process. That’s the biggest thing for us this year – Dooley needs to give us reason to put faith in the process.

by Will Shelton on Sep 2, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

that huge slide on the back half of the 2007 season...

makes much more sense in retrospect.

the main factor was that the depth was simply not there for the team and it paid for it in the worst way. the other aspect was the mental/motivational situation. there was still a lot of folks on the team and in the program (COUGHMAJORCOUGHCOUGHAPPLEWHITE) who didn’t buy into saban’s approach and the team was weaker for it.

in addition the renewed emphasis on conditioning and strength as well as the complexity of the defensive scheme needed time to click. there’s just no two ways around that fact.

the key game looking back was not ULM (which, as embarrassing as it was, certainly gave saban the ammunition to kick some asses) but the bowl game against colorado. rewatching it recently i saw it reach that point in the third quarter where all the other games that season did and the air seemed to come out of the team. but in that game, it didn’t. they just kept coming back and hitting the buffaloes in the mouth. i was officially excited about 2008 after that game.

honestly, i see the news coming out of knoxville and i also get a certain sense of deja vu as well. dooley certainly is following the approach of his mentor, the question is how successful can he be in the entirely different environment and conditions within the vol program?

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by kleph on Sep 2, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will say this much

Just looking at the attrition level from this year to last year for Tennessee, if Tennesse can finish at .500, it will be because of a great coaching job by Derek Dooley. I don’t think the talent level at Tennesse is quite the same that it was at Alabama in ‘07 (remember one of the main reasons they finished at 7-6 is because of the infamous textbook incident at mid-season) However, I did not realize that Alabama’s and Tennessee’s records were indentical over the last few years.

It's hard to say what's been most impressive. The seamless jump from AA? The ability to hit for average? The ability to hit for power? The 18 walks in 111 trips to the plate? The flair for the dramatic? When you're trying to isolate the most impressive aspect of Jason Heyward's game, there's a lot to choose from, and it's only been a month and a half.

by Richie Grogan on Sep 2, 2010 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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