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College Football BlogPoll: Week 1 Ballot Final

Here's our ballot in all it's inglory.  Changes were made based on discussion here.

Tune in next week as we completely shred things all over again!

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beat Youngstown State by 30, move up 11 spots

beat western Kentucky by 39, move up 12 spots

beat Tennessee Tech (FCS) by 41, move up 7 spots

beat Samford by 53, drop 2 spots

need a late interception to beat Utah State at home, drop 4 spots

beat Miami(Ohio) by 3TDs, and look terrible doing, fall 22 spots

beat a top 15 team, drop 3 spots

beat UL Lafeyette by 48, drop 1 spot

Interesting movements on this poll. Apparently beating an FCS team is worth moving up 7 spots, and beating a top 15 is worth dropping 2.

by Cardsfan25 on Sep 8, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

In case you weren't around for the explanation

The RTT blog poll is PURELY results based. There is zero looking at what we thought last week and seeing how teams should move up or down. It’s just looking at the total body of work and seeing how it looks. After a few weeks, a computer comes in and does most of the poll, but there’s no data yet. If how they looked in week one is different than what we expected in pre-season, there’s naturally plenty of movement from the preseason poll. Also, in the first few weeks, the poll is extremely volatile. For instance, Florida was in the preseason top 10. Last week, there’s no way they played like a top 25 team. But if they play like a top 10 team next week, they’ll pop right back up there, even though they only beat a middling Big East team.

by Incipient_Senescence on Sep 8, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Cardsfan, you can expect a lot of movement in the first few weeks. Just remember that nobody actually cares what the first few weeks look like so long as your last few weeks make sense.

Think of it this way: how much faith are you willing to put in my preseason ballot? The movements are all relative to that ballot, and I know for certain that my preseason ballot devalues any paper it’s written on.

by David Hooper on Sep 9, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Margins of Victory

Are a generally poor judge of performance.

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I will give my North Carolina for Tennessee Today. Apparently.

by bobothevol on Sep 8, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It appears that not everyone who submits a ballot makes their selections using the same standards

because Florida is ranked #4 and recieved a first place vote.

On that page it says:

The BlogPoll has an explicitly declared poll philosophy that voters are directed to follow.

What is that philsophy?

by golfballs03 on Sep 8, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

oh ok

well the new one is up and Florida is #9, so my question still stands…

by golfballs03 on Sep 8, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't remember the verbatim

but there are basically two tenets: one is to not rely solely on computers (i.e. allow human override if you use computers). We do that, but not all computer users do; some won’t override for any reason whatsoever. You’ll see Cook rant on that nearly every week during the early going, though he rarely spikes those ballots anymore. (When Hinton always does it, Cook has a hard time banning such voters from the poll.)

The other is basically to not be stupid. In theory, we’re supposed to take more time and collect more data before voting – e.g. draft ballots and not having ballots due until Wednesday. Also, we’re supposed to avoid the momentum problem that the regular polls have; if two consecutively ranked teams win and the lower-ranked team appears to be the better team on the season, they should pass the other team. (Basically, don’t try to justify your preseason poll by stubbornly refusing to move teams.)

I infringe a bit by relying on computers more than Cook really cares for, but that’s fine with me. (For a former engineer, he’s surprisingly anti-cpu.)

by David Hooper on Sep 9, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

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