Tennessee Volunteers vs. Vanderbilt Commodores: Game Preview
A weekly look at our upcoming opponent's recent history, with animated drive charts, links to SB Nation game pages, and statistical comparisons. Caveats.
Sketchy Conclusions
- Vanderbilt has had nearly the same misfortune of schedule that Tennessee has had, playing both Alabama and Arkansas from the West. Trade their Kentucky for our LSU, and we trade records.
- The 2011 Tennessee Volunteers are not necessarily any better than a Salted Caramel Mocha Frappuccino®.
- Vandy's offensive numbers are woeful, and their biggest threat is the running game, and Tennessee's defense has done an admirable job (for a half) when it can focus on stopping the run.
- The Commodores again have a solid defense. But see Tennessee's offense. Will Tyler Bray return? Will it matter?
Predictions
- Tennessee 14, Vanderbilt 10
Schedule and Animated Drive Charts
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| Elon Phoenix | 9/3/11 | win 45 - 14 | coverage |
| Connecticut Huskies | 9/10/11 | win 24 - 21 | coverage |
| Mississippi Rebels | 9/17/11 | win 30 - 7 | coverage |
| @ South Carolina Gamecocks | 9/24/11 | loss 3 - 21 | coverage |
| @ Alabama Crimson Tide | 10/8/11 | loss 0 - 34 | coverage |
| Georgia Bulldogs | 10/15/11 | loss 28 - 33 | coverage |
| Army Black Knights | 10/22/11 | win 44 - 21 | coverage |
| Arkansas Razorbacks | 10/29/11 | loss 28 - 31 | coverage |
| @ Florida Gators | 11/5/11 | loss 21 - 26 | coverage |
| Kentucky Wildcats | 11/12/11 | win 38 - 8 | coverage |
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| Montana Grizzlies | 9/3/11 | win 42 - 16 | coverage |
| Cincinnati Bearcats | 9/10/11 | win 45 - 23 | coverage |
| @ Florida Gators | 9/17/11 | loss 23 - 33 | coverage |
| Buffalo Bulls | 10/1/11 | win 41 - 10 | coverage |
| Georgia Bulldogs | 10/8/11 | loss 12 - 20 | coverage |
| LSU Tigers | 10/15/11 | loss 7 - 38 | coverage |
| @ Alabama Crimson Tide | 10/22/11 | loss 6 - 37 | coverage |
| South Carolina Gamecocks | 10/29/11 | loss 3 - 14 | coverage |
| Middle Tenn. St. Blue Raiders | 11/5/11 | win 24 - 0 | coverage |
| @ Arkansas Razorbacks | 11/12/11 | loss 7 - 49 | coverage |
Games against South Carolina and Alabama ended similarly for both Vanderbilt and Tennessee. The Georgia game looks better for the Commodores, although Georgia scored more on them, as does the Arkansas game, which looks better for the 'Dores on both sides of the ball, but both of those games were at home. Florida was so long ago for us that I don't think it matters. Bottom line, the resumes for both teams are depressing, and you can point to either to support whatever argument you like. Let's try it. Premise: The Salted Caramel Mocha Frappuccino® from Starbucks tastes like liquid pretzel. Vandy 2011 has learned to Jump Around but is still Vandy. Tennessee is struggling this year. Therefore, the Vols are better than salted pretzels. Okay, so maybe it doesn't work for any argument.
Measuring sticks:
Animated Drive Charts brought to you by Gameday Depot.
Looking at those two drive charts against a common opponent, it certainly looks like Vandy is much more capable than the Vols. Of course, it also serves as evidence that Vandy is as Vandy does. I mean, yikes, that had to be a heartbreaking game for them, what with the fumble for the TD, the follow up fumble, the two subsequent punts, and the missed short field goal to lose the game. We're not is as we do yet, are we?
National Unit Rankings
| OFFENSIVE RANKINGS | |||||||
| Category | National Rank |
Actual | National Leader |
Actual | Conf Rank |
Conference Leader | Actual |
| Rushing Offense | 59 | 162.40 | Army | 352.00 | 7 | Alabama | 215.30 |
| Passing Offense | 100 | 172.50 | Houston | 455.70 | 8 | Arkansas | 311.30 |
| Total Offense | 99 | 334.90 | Houston | 628.80 | 10 | Arkansas | 455.70 |
| Scoring Offense | 68 | 26.10 | Houston | 54.70 | 6 | Arkansas | 38.80 |
| Passing Efficiency | 104 | 112.59 | Wisconsin | 193.17 | 10 | Georgia | 161.06 |
| Sacks Allowed | 88 | 2.40 | Oklahoma | .44 | 9 | LSU | 1.00 |
Offensive observations. Oh, good. Can't pass. Runs only moderately well. As Dooley said in his post-practice on-field session yesterday, the team does pretty well when they can reduce the space. It's why they've been able to sort of survive the running games, at least at times, of superpowers like Alabama and LSU. We should be able to get back to having the defense focus on one dimension, and that one dimension isn't all that great anyway. Be prepared for a couple of big passing plays resulting from overcommitment to the run, but Vandy's passing numbers suggest that that isn't a huge threat, either.
| DEFENSIVE RANKINGS | |||||||
| Category | National Rank |
Actual | National Leader |
Actual | Conf Rank |
Conference Leader | Actual |
| Rushing Defense | 32 | 122.90 | Alabama | 51.90 | 4 | Alabama | 51.90 |
| Pass Efficiency Defense | 32 | 117.62 | Alabama | 84.21 | 8 | Alabama | 84.21 |
| Total Defense | 22 | 327.60 | Alabama | 181.40 | 6 | Alabama | 181.40 |
| Scoring Defense | 31 | 21.60 | Alabama | 7.10 | 8 | Alabama | 7.10 |
| Pass Defense | 39 | 204.70 | Alabama | 129.50 | 10 | Alabama | 129.50 |
| Sacks | 37 | 2.20 | Oklahoma | 3.78 | 4 | Georgia | 2.50 |
| Tackles For Loss | 27 | 6.90 | Cincinnati | 8.67 | 4 | Georgia | 7.60 |
Defensive observations. This is a bit twitchy for Vol fans. Vandy's usually pretty stout defensively, and this year is no exception. They're basicallly top quartile in most things that matter, and they've played many of the same teams that Tennessee has, including both Alabama and Arkansas from the west. With our offensive #challenges, this could spell trouble. Good thing that Derek Dooley said that Tyler Bray's thumb has magically turned into gold upon emerging from the cast and that he's going to be AWESOME.
| SPECIAL TEAMS AND TURNOVERS RANKINGS | |||||||
| Category | National Rank |
Actual | National Leader |
Actual | Conf Rank |
Conference Leader | Actual |
| Net Punting | 42 | 37.51 | Oregon | 44.33 | 6 | LSU | 40.39 |
| Punt Returns | 85 | 6.36 | Ole Miss | 22.60 | 9 | Ole Miss | 22.60 |
| Kickoff Returns | 47 | 22.56 | UTEP | 27.62 | 9 | Arkansas | 25.31 |
| Turnover Margin | T-41 | .30 | Oklahoma St. | 1.80 | 4 | LSU | 1.50 |
Special teams and turnovers observations. Eh.
Players to Watch
| Category | Player | National Rank |
Actual |
| OFFENSE | |||
| Rushing | Zac Stacy | 43 | 89.10 |
| Jordan Rodgers | 30.50 | ||
| Passing Efficiency (Min. 15 Att./Game) | Jordan Rodgers | 81 | 121.96 |
| Larry Smith | 96.41 | ||
| Total Offense | Jordan Rodgers | 99 | 147.10 |
| Zac Stacy | 93.40 | ||
| Larry Smith | 60.12 | ||
| Receptions Per Game | Jordan Matthews | 2.90 | |
| Receiving Yards Per Game | Jordan Matthews | 56.90 | |
| Chris Boyd | 32.00 | ||
| Scoring | Zac Stacy | 5.40 | |
Offensive Observations. Redshirt junior Jordan Rodgers is Zach Rodgers' little brother and has recently lost a hundred pounds in five languages. Ba-dump bump crash. If there's anything to be particularly concerned about here, it's the fact that Rodgers is getting 30 yards per game rushing. We did okay against Zach Collaros but not so well against Jordan Jefferson. The guy for our secondary to focus on is Jordan Matthews, and Chris Boyd gets about half what Matthews gets. Zac Stacy seems serviceable.
| Category | Player | National Rank |
Actual |
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| Interceptions | Casey Hayward | T-8 | .50 |
| Trey Wilson | T-52 | .30 | |
| Javon Marshall | .20 | ||
| Sacks | Tim Fugger | T-28 | .65 |
| Rob Lohr | T-93 | .45 | |
| Archibald Barnes | .20 | ||
| Sean Richardson | .20 | ||
| Tackles | Chris Marve | 7.20 | |
| Tackles For Loss | Tim Fugger | T-28 | 1.25 |
| Rob Lohr | T-48 | 1.15 | |
Defense. Vandy has two guys nationally ranked for interceptions, including Casey Hayward, who's tied for 8th. He gets one every two games, but he hasn't had one for the last four games. Is he due or done? Senior defensive lineman Tim Fugger could be a foce to contend with. And yes, Vandy has a football player named Archibald Barnes. Are you surprised?
| Category | Player | National Rank |
Actual |
| SPECIAL TEAMS | |||
| Punting (Min. 3.6 Punts/Game) | Richard Kent | 35 | 41.69 |
| Punt Returns (Min. 1.2 Ret./Game) | Jonathan Krause | 61 | 3.36 |
| Kickoff Returns (Min. 1.2 Ret./Game) | Andre Hal | 46 | 24.41 |
| Field Goals | Carey Spear | .40 | |
| All-Purpose Runners | Zac Stacy | 96.90 | |
| Andre Hal | 65.90 | ||
Special teams. Eh again.
Head to Head Comparisons
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Comps
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Result Against Comps
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Prediction
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| UT rush v. Vanderbilt rush defense | 91.90 (#116) |
122.90 (#32) |
South Carolina (132) (#44) |
35 | 25 |
| UT pass v. Vanderbilt pass defense | 250.70 (#41) |
204.70 (#39) |
Arkansas (203) (#35) |
238 | 250 |
| Vanderbilt rush v. UT rush defense | 166.00 (#68) |
162.40 (#59) |
MTSU (159.89) (#62) |
97 | 100 |
| Vanderbilt pass v. UT pass defense | 192.60 (#23) |
172.50 (#100) |
LSU/South Carolina (173.90/170.20) (#99/#102) |
146/87 | 115 |
| UT scoring offense v. Vanderbilt scoring defense | 21.00 (#102) |
21.60 (#31) |
Arkansas (21.50) (#30) |
7 | 14 |
| Vanderbilt scoring offense v. UT scoring defense | 24.00 (#50) |
26.10 (#68) |
MTSU (24.78) (#81) |
0 | 10 |
As always, these are informed guesses rather than mathematical calculations, and the general analytical framework is this: We are averaging X in a certain category. The opponent averages Y against that, which is most closely comparable to some identified previous opponent, against whom we did Z. All of that leads to an informed guess labeled as Prediction. The less data you have, the more sketchy the guess, and the guesses range from ALL CAPS SKETCHY WITH EXCLAMATION POINTS at the beginning of the season to merely lower case sketchy for the last game.
This week's example: We're averaging about 90 yards per game on the ground while Vandy's opponents average about 123. The closest comp is South Carolina, against whom we rushed for 35 Fulmerized yards. I'm guessing we get 25, and the sad part is that that may be optimistic.
Should we do alternate predictions depending on whether Tyler Bray plays? I don't think so. Dooley's right. If he plays, he's not going to be the same guy he was against Buffalo, Cincinnati, and Montana. His presence may lend some much-needed confidence to the offense, but him floudering or failing could have the opposite effect. I think that if he plays, the team does better this week but doesn't set the world on fire.
Sketchy Conclusions
- Vanderbilt has had nearly the same misfortune of schedule that Tennessee has had, playing both Alabama and Arkansas from the West. Trade their Kentucky for our LSU, and we trade records.
- The 2011 Tennessee Volunteers are not necessarily any better than a Salted Caramel Mocha Frappuccino®.
- Vandy's offensive numbers are woeful, and their biggest threat is the running game, and Tennessee's defense has done an admirable job (for a half) when it can focus on stopping the run.
- The Commodores again have a solid defense. But see Tennessee's offense. Will Tyler Bray return? Will it matter?
Predictions
- Tennessee 14, Vanderbilt 10
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Vandy's passing game
For the season, the passing numbers are pretty mediocre, but that’s due mostly to the fact that Vandy let Larry Smith and his patented 17-step dropback start the first six games of the season. Since Jordan Rodgers became the starting QB, he’s thrown for 930 yards (232.5/game) 6 TDs and 3 INTs.
Zac Stacy, over that same stretch (Army/Arkansas/Florida/Kentucky) has put up 510 yards (127.5/game) and 7 TDs. I think we’re gonna see more offense based on how the ‘Dores have played over the past month than y’all are predicting, but it’s always possible for this team to just crap the bed outright.
by Christian D'Andrea on Nov 16, 2011 11:09 AM EST reply actions
I wanted to say these same things
I realize you can’t ignore what’s happened before (e.g. if we ignored all games since Bray/Hunter got hurt, our offense would still be awesome!). However, Vandy’s offense has not sucked recently which I think is the driving force behind the fanbase’s collective optimism right now.
IF you took the 4 games that Rodgers has started, the offensive ranks would be 37th in points (32.75/game), 61st in passing (232.5/game), 20th in rushing (212.25/game), and 27th total (444.75/game). Of course, Army/Arky/UF/UK is not the most terrifying gauntlet, but still.
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
I don't see how either team can possibly win.
Vandy can’t win on the road. Tennessee can’t win as an underdog.
The one thing I can say with confidence is that the Salted Caramel Mocha Frappuchino® is certainly among the world’s most remarkable brackish frozen coffee drinks. And the remark is “I’m never drinking this S again.”
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
haters gonna hate
the Salted Caramel Mocha Frappu …wait, they did what with that? Yipes. Yeah, hate that.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Nov 16, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
The only pro-UT thing I can say here...
is that I broke the thumb on my dominant hand playing basketball ~10 years ago. I didn’t really notice a huge difference in strength when it healed, but it was prone to a sort of arthritic pain at times… but that was easily played through.
Worried
Having Bray back (if he comes back this week) may make a difference on offense but how much of a difference I wonder about. Unfortunately, I think our absence of any kind of a running game is going to do us in by forcing Bray (if he plays) to pass all the time and the experienced Vandy secondary will get some picks on a rusty Bray trying to force things.
by Pandemonium Reigns on Nov 16, 2011 1:48 PM EST reply actions
In related news...
A Vanderbilt safety, Andre Simmons, has been suspended for a suspected role in an armed robbery in a dorm room at Vanderbilt.
link
Vandy, such a renegade program.
As I just saw on FB
This may be the best sign that Vandy is ready for the big time of them all. You can’t be successful without a felony or two under your belt :)
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
Never not rec'd.
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
Other weird news...
We’re the biggest favorite in college basketball tonight… 21.5 points.
Yes, ULM was terrible last season.
Same 7-24 record last season
as our previous opponent UNC-Greensboro. Need to keep the confidence train…er, boat…rolling all the way to Maui
by Will Shelton on Nov 16, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Not particularly related to this
But Clay Travis is trolling again. I had to step back from the ledge…man, why does the dude want to piss off his own followers? IMMA HANG UP AND LISTEN CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
We haven't scored more than 12 pts in 6 weeks
except against MTSU. (Yes, things would have been better with Bray but things weren’t going well before Bray broke his thumb against Georgia, either. And, he will be rusty.)
Vandy’s new QB is a solid improvement over the prior disaster. And, Vandy has looked good in losing against some very good teams. (not a backhanded compliment. Well, OK, it is.)
But our defense is generally solid until we reach the point in the game when we collectively lose all hope in the UT offense ever seeing the end zone.
I don’t think we hold Vandy to 10 points. I think they celebrate bowl eligibility in our house. And, I think we get to take our a season of pain and suffering on Kentucky the final week.
And, I hate it.
We're watching when you are not. Protecting against another 9-11.
If it helps on Bray
one thing we didn’t know about Georgia’s defense at the time: they’re kind of awesome
by Will Shelton on Nov 16, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
and Bray still threw for 251...
We just managed to somehow get zero touchdowns out of any of those yards.
If our running game was even moderately competent against Georgia, we’d probably win fairly comfortably… instead Poole got all of 1 ypc.
Just looked at the stats...
and we’ve played the #1, 2, 3, and 5 pass defenses in the last six games.
45-7
Heel for school, Vol for life!
Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 16, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, you are more negative than I am. I expect to hold Vandy to less than 45 and score 10 or so...
(Yes, I know you are rooting for a Vols blow out but you see what I did there…)
We're watching when you are not. Protecting against another 9-11.
by memphispete on Nov 17, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
No, no, no
We match up well against Georgia, no reason to have lost that game!!! :-)
Nobody on Vandy's team has beaten Tennessee.
Nobody on Tennessee’s team has lost to Vandy.
Where was all this pessimism when the situation actually deserved it? When we were playing top ten teams? This is Vanderbilt for cryin out loud.
35-10 VOLS
I believe that I was equally pessimistic then "Name your own Sabanic score of embarrassment" against the tide, etc.
We just do not have the talent to compete this year.
We're watching when you are not. Protecting against another 9-11.
by memphispete on Nov 17, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
*then should be *the* "Name your own..."
We're watching when you are not. Protecting against another 9-11.
by memphispete on Nov 17, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Bottom line
If Bray doesn’t play, we lose.
If Bray does play, we either lose or win.
If Bray plays and is fully functional, we win.
Bray is definitely going to play.
Dooley has been incessantly emphasizing that Bray will not be in tip top form against Vandy “in the event that” he plays.
I’m happy that Dooley is saying these things.
But I’m also quite sure that he doesn’t believe the words he is saying even as they are coming out of his mouth.
Bray was throwing the ball around at practice on Tuesday and towards the end of practice was apparently throwing it like his name was freaking Tyler Bray.
The thumb is only going to get better.
Thus, I predict that Tyler Bray will be starting on Saturday and will be throwing the football like his name was Tyler freaking Bray.
In view of the above, we win.
QED
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Nov 16, 2011 7:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'd absolutely kill for a healthy Justin Hunter...
I might sound crazy here, but I really think he’s worth at least 2 TDs in most games. Not necessarily directly, but as a result of dictating what the defenses can do.
I actually agree
I think we can win this game with Justin Worley and DeAnthony Arnett, but it’s a coin flip at best with a probable lean to Vandy. With Bray, it’s a lean Vols. With Bray and Hunter. . . oh the possibilities.
Heel for school, Vol for life!
Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!
by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 16, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
With Bray and Hunter...
Oh, those sweet sweet words.
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Nov 17, 2011 1:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wait til next year
Oh, those sweet, sweet
Um, I sound like an Ole Miss fan.
Never mind.
We're watching when you are not. Protecting against another 9-11.
by memphispete on Nov 17, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Next year I expect some paybacks
There’ll be some cans of Camble’s Whoopass soup opened next year.
I hope so. Might be one more year of rebuilding but shouldn't be this dreadful
We're watching when you are not. Protecting against another 9-11.
by memphispete on Nov 17, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Next year ain't rebuilding
Next year is re-establishing:
Swagger.
Brand name.
That we are a football school after all.
Attendance.
The imposition of Will (no, not Shelton).
Feelings of superiority.
General bullishness.
Acceptance of the “woo”.
That Steve Spurrier coaches at a second rate football program.
That Steve Spurrier was probably never quite as smart as we once gave him credit for.
That UT is a school you want to play for.
The desirability of Knoxville on game days as a destination for us out of towners.
Au naturale elevated levels of Dopamine. The ability to look down upon others without resorting to “historical” metrics.
Double point spread covers.
Chumps going against us in a 4-team teaser and losing as a result.
Contentment* with the present.
Optimism.
Rational optimism.
The way we felt about Florida when Ron Zook was their coach.
That Georgia will always always play second fiddle to someone.
“What if Tyler stays for one more year?”
Kirk. Herbstreit. On. Campus.
Erin. Andrews. On. Campus.
Not getting angry at Gary Danielson because we don’t sweat the small stuff.
A place in “The Conversation”.
Rightful order.
And other stuff too.
*may or may not be a word.
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Nov 17, 2011 1:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree, next year is not rebuild
That’s not to say that rebuilding the roster and depth and upgrading won’t be completed, but we should have plenty of talent and experience next year to exact some pain on our foes. I think we’re going to be a team that no one will want to play next year.
Agree with everything but the woo
players in the national conversation
team in the national conversation
grudging respect on Atlanta sports radio and no more jokes
must see TV games
non UT fan friends and acquaintences wanting to talk UT football
offense with an identity
defense with a fierce reputation
people finding ma Dooley charming and funny
stunned foes, sceptical fans, casual observers asking ‘where did this team come from’…we know, we’ve been paying attention
oops...meant to say 'will be completed'
still have work to do.

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