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Dooley Re-Do May Change the Program

If at first you don't succeed, try something completely different.

That's what Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley must have been thinking Saturday night with 6 minutes, 27 seconds left on the clock, his Volunteers -- home dogs for the first time ever against Vanderbilt -- trailing the Commodores 21-14 and all the momentum cloaked in black-and-gold.

Banking on getting the football at least one more time, the second-year coach made what I believe was the wrong decision, sending kicker Michael Palardy out for a chip-shot field goal that would have, at best, trimmed the lead to four and put VU in a position to whittle the game away. It was an uncharacteristically conservative decision for a coach who has lived but mostly died by his aggression.

For once, the football gods shined on the Vols -- the first of four times that would occur down the stretch to finally give UT an SEC win in dramatic fashion, 27-21 over "rival" Vanderbilt and coach James Franklin in overtime.

Star-divide

As Palardy unleashed a Daniel Lincoln Special -- a low line-drive that looked about crotch-high and would eventually get blocked at the line of scrimmage -- the VU gunner crashed into his ankle. Palardy failed, but fell.

Vanderbilt celebrates. Tennessee frustrates.

But, in the midst of it all, a yellow handkerchief was strewn at the line of scrimmage. After little deliberation, the official made the correct call that, while the field goal was blocked, it wasn't touched by the same player who crashed into Palardy, thus resulting in a running-into-the-kicker penalty. Had the same player who ran into Palardy blocked the kick, there would have been no infraction. But in this case, the Vols got a dream do-over.

The penalty was a blessing, but it didn't result in a fresh set of downs as a roughing call would have. Instead, the ball moved from the 5 yard line to the 2 and the Vols still faced a gut-wrenching, ulcer-inducing fourth-and-goal. Twice before on the night, they'd been inside VU's 20 with polar results. The first time, Bray threw a 50/50 ball to Da'Rick Rogers' outside shoulder for a 17-yard touchdown at the pylon. The next, UT's sophomore quarterback tried to fit a ball into double coverage, ignored the linebacker and paid with a 100-yard pick six that resulted in a 14-point swing and gave Vanderbilt a mental boost.

Here's the game's most pivotal moment: What do you do?

From my seat, the answer was simple:  If you've spent the entire season putting games on the shoulders of your young, inexperienced, not-ready-for-primetime players by going for it on fourth downs and yanking a senior to pull the redshirt of a true freshman quarterback who you'd never seen before simply because he was Anybody But Matt Simms, then why not do it now?

Why not put the fate of your team in the hands of your star quarterback who'd just returned from his injury? Why not throw the football to the guy who everybody in the stadium knew was going to get it every game ever since Justin Hunter went down in Week 3, the same guy who -- no matter who was throwing him the football -- has put up good enough numbers to lead the SEC in catches and yards?

After putting so many long-shot games in your players' hands, why not put one on them that could actually lead to a win?

Dooley did.

And the do-over not only may have changed our season but possibly -- hyperbole coming here  -- the black cloud over Dooley's coaching regime at UT.

Facing fourth-and-goal from the 2, Bray dropped back and threw a ball to Rogers that could only be caught by Rogers. From the release [which seemingly played out in slow motion], the pass looked wide-left, too far out-of-bounds to be hauled in, too wide of his favorite target, too good to be true that we could actually make a play with the game on the line. Perhaps, in retrospect, it was exactly where it needed to be; the only place it could be. The star athlete from Calhoun, Ga., snagged the ball one-handed, pulled it in and got both feet in the end zone. In a season where we've rarely looked like an SEC team, that was an NFL catch.

Extra point good. Game tied. Cue heroics.

Listen: There will be several people point out how Prentiss Waggner's perfectly-timed, route-jumping interception negated any chance for VU to kick an end-of-regulation field goal to beat Tennessee, and rightfully so. It was a great, crucial play.

Many others will always remember the game's signature, sealing play -- Eric Gordon's hiccup-quick break on Jordan Rodgers' overtime pass, ensuing interception and 93-yard touchdown return, phantom-whistle-be-damned. And rightfully so. That was the game-ending memory-maker.

But those plays don't happen if Dooley doesn't go for broke on fourth-and-goal from the 2. They don't happen if he doesn't put the game in the hands of his players, who made the play when they had to. After all, with 6:27 left on the clock and a defense that at times this season has struggled to get off the field on third down, there is no guarantee the Vols would have gotten another shot. Even if they did, how long would they have had? Long enough for Bray -- playing with nine fingers -- to lead them downfield?

Dooley made the correct call, even if it took him two tries to get it right. I'm OK with that; he still gets credit. If you're going to get criticized for making bad coaching decisions, you deserve praise for the good ones -- especially the ones that lead to wins. And we'll take any of those we can get right now.

The decision to go for the touchdown in that position paved the way for yet another win over Vanderbilt, but it was much more than that. It opened the door to beating Kentucky and making it to another bowl game. And it kept alive the hope that, even through an awful, forgettable season, there's still the possibility to head into 2012 a step better than we were last year, bridging the gulf in this rebuilding process to hopefully better days ahead. That play was that humongous -- if the Vols capitalize on it.

Scoring that touchdown can lead to beating Kentucky. It can lead to playing in a bowl game. It can lead to winning a bowl game. And it can lead to getting UT to next season where health, a better schedule and another quality recruiting class getting into school can move us forward.

It was a second chance for Dooley to make the right call, and when he did, it gave our program a second chance at this season. Now, let's take advantage.

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The pot-shots taken at opponents and former Vols are not befitting of the writing that has graced this website through the years. They have no place here.

This is a nice article marred by unnecessary black marks.

by spiritofthehill on Nov 21, 2011 9:03 AM EST reply actions  

Huh?

I had nothing really against Franklin until he trashed our fans and took shots at Tennessee throughout the past couple of weeks.

The only place I can imagine where you’d think I took a pot shot at Vanderbilt was where I said they were a “rival.” They’ve not won but once in the past 28 games against UT. For it to be a rivalry, you need some competitive wins on the other side.

Also, to clarify, the reason I called Franklin a “goon” is the hockey definition of that is somebody who is an enforcer or unnecessarily tries to harm players. I saw three different times where one of Vanderbilt’s players did that. And it’s unacceptable to me.

If taking the word “goon” out enhances the story, I will. But Franklin needs to be reprimanded for creating a culture where it’s OK to take cheap shots. Hence, my “pot shot.”

There were none intended for a good Vanderbilt team that played a good game.

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 21, 2011 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

This site, since its inception, has always been the best place to read about Tennessee sports, not just on the web, but anywhere.

RTT has always traveled upon the high road.

I hope it stays there.

by spiritofthehill on Nov 21, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

With due respect, your criticism is misplaced.

We're watching when you are not. Protecting against another 9-11.

by memphispete on Nov 21, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

This time I got your back Brad.

RTT as a whole roundly criticized Daniel Lincoln throughout the 2009 campaign. I wouldn’t call that reference any sort of dig as much as just a statement of fact.

As far as calling Franklin a goon, he and his players acted like goons and, again, that is far from the first time an auther and/or commentor has dogged an opposing coach for their actions.

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by VolBrian on Nov 21, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

*authOr

facepalm

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"The one thing Tennessee always does is kick the sh*t out of Vanderbilt" ~~ Derek Dooley

by VolBrian on Nov 21, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Anywayyyyyyyyyy

Good read Brad!

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by Joseph Stanley on Nov 21, 2011 9:29 AM EST reply actions  

Well ...

Daniel Lincoln kicked low line drives. Does that mean he was a bad kicker? Not necessarily, but those low liners got his kicks blocked sometimes. Palardy’s low liner reminded me of a Lincoln kick — against Alabama, against North Carolina, etc.

As for Franklin, I think he is creating a culture where his players think it’s OK to hurt players. And his postgame antics were Kiffin-esque.

I am sorry you think the way you do about this post. It wasn’t its intent, and the main thrust of it is not coming through, so I’ll take out the word “goon.” It’s not my intent to change the writing style of the site by calling it like I see it. It’s also not my intent to change my writing style to adapt to the place I’m writing, either.

But I want a healthy discussion about what the post is SUPPOSED to be about. So, I’ll make the edit.

I hope we can agree to disagree, and there’s no respect lost. I appreciate your opinions.

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 21, 2011 9:29 AM EST reply actions  

I have no problem with how the article originally read

If the official writers here aren’t allowed to say it, I will – James Franklin is a punk.

I will say, however, that I think the decision to kick the field goal wasn’t necessarily wrong – to that point, Vandy hadn’t put together any sustained drives. If you make the field goal, you kickoff to them (and out kick coverage was doing pretty good) and you have the chance to get the ball back and drive for the win. If you miss the kick, they have an even shorter field, and you still have the chance to drive for the tie. I’m not saying it was the right call, mind you, just that it wasn’t a clear-cut wrong call. I can see both sides of that one.

by danmarcel on Nov 21, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree. I'm just talking about how I felt at the time

And we have the benefit of hindsight here that going for the TD worked out. I think it was ballsy, and our players capitalized, and it could change the entire culture since we went out and WON a football game while gambling rather than gamble, have it fail and then get blown out.

I certainly hope so.

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 21, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I told Brad last night

I also thought Franklin reminded me of Kiffin in the postgame – very quick to credit our stadium and our fans but not our football team. He’s trying to change the culture, he’s young, so it makes at least some sense. I’m sure it sucked to lose that way.

by Will Shelton on Nov 21, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I know it sucked to lose that way

because I’ve experienced it at least three times the past three years

at Alabama in ‘09 (comparable to Arkansas at Vandy this year, so they’ve lived that one too), at LSU (defensive penalty), vs UNC (don’t get me started). Also the horribly deflating injuries we’ve experienced.

We’ve got some karma coming our way. I just hope we don’t use up all our karma credits against Vandy

by dmiles on Nov 21, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

There.

Thanks for your opinion, spiritofthehill.

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 21, 2011 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

Let's be honest

“goon” sums up Franklin’s attitude on Saturday pretty well. This site is the best of its kind, by the way.

by craiggrubbst on Nov 21, 2011 9:42 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Regarding 2012

This season, minus the injuries, is working out pretty close to my expectations. I think with Bray and Hunter we have at least one more win and would have finished no worse than 7-5, but take them out and I would have thought 6-6 was our best hope.

I expect 2012 to be a leap forward not just a step assuming a few areas get addressed:
- RB: either Marlin takes a big step forward and/or one of the incoming Freshman makes a significant contribution
- O-line: hopefully the increased pop at the LOS last week and especially against Vandy is finally the beginning of these guys finding their legs in the running game
- D-line: we sign a couple of these Jucos and they contribute as expected
- Coaching: Dooley cleans up some questionable game management issues

Not all of those have to be fixed to perfection but if they trend positively along with the base of talent we already have next year could be really, really fun…looking at you Florida.

by phil g on Nov 21, 2011 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

I reread the post

and still can’t figure out what was so offensive to spriritofthehill.

by phil g on Nov 21, 2011 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

The only thing that was changed was the sentence that originally read:

For once, the football gods shined on the Vols — the first of four times that would occur down the stretch to finally give UT an SEC win in dramatic fashion, 27-21 over “rival” Vanderbilt and GOON coach James Franklin in overtime.

That was the only edit I made because I didn’t want that word to take away from the crux of the story.

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 21, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

No need to go vanilla

just because one dude gets his panties in a wad. I love your gunslinger journalism, Brad. keep it up!

by PdxVol on Nov 21, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Next year's offense

with Da’Rick developing into beast mode, return of Hunter and hopefully addition of Patterson with Snr Rivera sliding into holes underneath will be sick. This crew should be better than Arkansas this year and as good as anything the SEC has seen in a long time. There won’t be many defenders in the box next year which should be fun for Marlin and the other RBs. This bunch will be a staple on ESPN highlights.

by phil g on Nov 21, 2011 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

Remember how Bruce Pearl stated that his goal was to be the most hated coach in the SEC?

Franklin’s act tells me that he wants us to hate him.
From now on, I think we should just ignore him.

Brad, I appreciate your respectful responses in a moment where defiance is often the response.

I’ve really just gotten tired of people focusing on and then later remembering Tennessee players for what they did wrong rather than what they did right. (See Lincoln, Daniel; Foster, Arian; Prince, J.P.; Hopson, Scotty) I’m probably oversensitive to it.

Daniel Lincoln hit 10 of 11 FGs his senior year. He had a solid career with some clearly bad moments, but some clearly good ones, too. It’s easy to remember a kicker’s or another player’s failure when we think it affects what usually ends up to be a negative outcome, but it’s easy to remember it when the rest of the team’s play makes it irrelevant (see Jeff Hall’s horrible National Championship game for an example).

I’m just not into criticizing someone for their physical failures. My school asks these kids to come and give it their all. If I have no reason to believe they’re not doing that, then I’m not going to criticize them for failing on the field or on the court, especially when they are successful off the field and in the classroom.

Heck yeah, I’m on my soapbox. Come and join me.

by spiritofthehill on Nov 21, 2011 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

Us openly hating Franklin probably helps his cause anyway

and since he’s at Vanderbilt, ignoring him in the long run is the best choice. That’ll get easier to do the further we get from Saturday. I’ll worry about that guy when he beats us.

by Will Shelton on Nov 21, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

This.

For multiple reasons. Hating him validates that he’s worth caring about.

by Chris Pendley on Nov 21, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I respect your opinions as I hope you will respect mine.

Even when you don’t respect one of my opinions, please remember to respect that I get space on this blog to write them. If there is something that’s out of line, feel free to rip me or my opinions in the thread below. And I will feel free to make the decision to change it or not. Or Joel will.

I will not always change them, but since it was a throw-away word — though one I truly believe accurately describes Franklin — in a column about another point entirely, I took it out to move forward conversation on the actual thrust of the article.

I know you’ve commented on my posts for a long time. I appreciate when you have an opinion, even when I disagree with it. As for Lincoln, he helped cost us two very important games — and he probably won us a few, too. I pointed out the fact that he was known for kicking low line drives. Hence, I didn’t change that description and won’t.

Again, that’s no slight to you for praising him or not wanting his failures pointed out. It is my job to critique these kids and coaches, and sometimes, I understand I can be overly critical because I’m an emotionally-driven writer. So, there will be times when we disagree. All of that is fine.

And I like to think I’ve grown up a lot over the years when it comes to topics I’m writing about and the tone I use to write them. Also, on the responses to people who disagree with me. That’s not to suggest I’m the only one who’s right or that I fall short sometimes.

That said, my opinions will still stand, and I’ll still come back to write them, popular or not. Again, thanks for clarification, and I understand your stance.

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 21, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Please don’t pull a Rucker “get your own show” or a Travis “I await your best-selling book” with the whole “respect that I get space on this blog.”

That just ruined it for me. Now you’re lumped in with Clay Travis. Deal with it.

(Everything preceding this parenthetical was intended as sarcasm.)

In all seriousness, I have nothing wrong with you or anyone else disrespecting anyone. I mind when people do it “out loud.”

I haven’t read every post on RTT over the years, but I’ve read a whole lot. In the past, I’ve read Joel on View from Rocky Top, I’ve read Will on Southeastern Sports Blog, and I’ve read you on 3SiB. I may have missed plenty of moments of disrespect and derision of both our opponents and our Vols, but the overwhelming feeling I’ve gotten from the posts on RTT (not the comments, mind you) is CLASS. Class and informed & informative opinions.

RTT is classy. It is special.
(…and quite a bit nerdy at times, too. That’s why we love it.)

by spiritofthehill on Nov 21, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you just call us nerds?

Hooper needs your address to send you a thank you card.

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by Joel Hollingsworth on Nov 21, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I see where I rate.

DO YOU NOT READ ME?!?!?!

/knowswhatyouweresaying

//justhavingfun

///nerdlyfe

by David Hooper on Nov 21, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

My apologies for any ignorance on my part.

I was referencing former writing homes, and if you had one, I don’t remember reading it in the pre-RTT era.

by spiritofthehill on Nov 21, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't.

Like I said, that was purely for fun. I knew you were referring to pre-RTT writings.

When in doubt, don’t take me seriously. ;-)

by David Hooper on Nov 21, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, I guess I was continuing the trend of not reading you.

Ouch.

by spiritofthehill on Nov 21, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ha

Nice.

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by Joel Hollingsworth on Nov 21, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

intended for sarcasm or not...

The RESPECT MY SPACE!!!! comment was not intended that way. It was only to point out that in this space i write my opinion and my opinion will not always be your opinion. But that doesnt mean i wont respect your opinion if it clashes with my opinion.

JMO.

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 21, 2011 1:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hooper pointed out in the game thread

that a lot of coaches seem like they make the conventional call because they can’t be blamed if it goes wrong. Just punt it away, or take the three points, and if you don’t get the ball back, blame your defense. It’s not your fault.

One thing I love about Dooley is that he never does that. He never makes the conventional call because it’s conventional. He’s not totally a riverboat gambler (see: punting it away from midfield against Georgia), but he’ll make the risky call when he thinks it’s the right call (fake FGs, onside kicks, going for it on 4th. . . ). Dooley doesn’t always make the right call, but that he’s willing to take risks is a wonderful thing. Especially when he has Da’Rick bailing him out

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 11:19 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

You know who else doesn't like you, Brad?

Tony Basilio.

The game management at the end of the game is low hanging fruit for criticism. The decision that got me was going for the touchdown after the roughing the kicker penalty. You have to take 3 points there if you’re attempting to play quality football.
Seriously. He said that. Also said inserting the Wildcat was idiotic and that screaming at Hinshaw made him look lost. Who does he think he is, CLAAAAAAAAAAAAY?

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

The problem with the three is that, make or miss, you still need a TD to stay alive in the game.

If the point differential were 6 rather than 7, it’s a whole different conversation. But I’d really rather go for it and risk failing. In that case, you have them starting within their own 5 and have a chance at a safety, or at least a chance for a punt from their own end zone.

And punting from their own end zone means a better shot at getting that TD that you need, whether you make the FG or not.

/preachingtochoir

by David Hooper on Nov 21, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

but you're wrong

you HAVE to kick the field goal if you’re attempting to play quality football. Now one were trying to play terrible football, they might should listen to Hooper. But otherwise, the three is always the right choice. Obviously. Idiot.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

AMEN HOOPER!

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 21, 2011 1:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Honestly, if I were to pick one thing to be upset about with that FG attempt, it wouldn't be the decision or the low kick.

It’d be that Vandy got a guy through the interior of our blockers. That kick was a failure before Palardy ever got his foot to the ball.

by David Hooper on Nov 21, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That's why I was mad about the decision

Because our field goal team is Full On Fail.

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 21, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Basilio’s a bit off here. There’s no such thing as simply taking 3 points when your kicker just pounded one into the back of his offensive line.

I completely agree with Hooper’s opinion here. When down 7, to win in regulation, you need two scores, one of which needs to be a touchdown. This may be the best chance to score, and if you fail, Vandy’s stuck inside the 5 on the south end near our students.

Upon 3rd and goal from the 5, I was thinking the Vols were in 4 down territory and should run the ball twice, since it had been successful throughout the drive.

What I haven’t seen brought up is why the penalty called was running into the kicker and not roughing the kicker instead, bringing a fresh set of downs to the table. I guess beggars can’t be choosers.

What has been interesting is the outrage from a number of Vandy fans saying something like, “I’ve never seen a call like that! That is NEVER called!” I would bet the reason that you’ve never seen a call like that is because that’s certainly not a situation that happens very often. In fact, I’ve never seen a blocked field goal where the kicker was roughed or run into by someone other than the kick blocker.

by spiritofthehill on Nov 21, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

My rule of thumb with Basilio:

Take his point, then reverse it. Makes understanding his line of thought much easier. He normally does know where to make a point, but his aim is, shall we say, Larry Smith-esque.

by Chris Pendley on Nov 21, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I was curious about that penalty call as well.

I thought the error was generally to the kicker’s benefit on that, and landing square on the plant leg and knocking Palardy down draws that roughing call almost every time.

Except for those officials, I guess. /shrug

by David Hooper on Nov 21, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I had also never seen a illegal wedge called until Tennessee-Florida

Vandy fans seriously need to get over themselves.

See if you can wrap your mind around this but they think they are too smart for their own good.

It pains me to say that I used to cheer for Vanderbilt as a secondary until the interwebz came along and showed me what dispicable, whiny, pretentious fans they have.

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by VolBrian on Nov 21, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate to say this with the good people we have in VAVol

and my Bible study host, who is a Vandy grad,

But the opposing fans at last year’s UT/Vandy bball game are the most irritating I’ve ever encountered, and the “awww little cute Vandy” feelings have gone away.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

heh...

Vanderbilt conversations after games…

1. 1983-2004 = “Ultimately it’s just a game, and you’ll be working for us someday”
2. 2005 = “FOOTBALL!!!!”
3. 2006-2011 = See #1

by Caban on Nov 21, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

If only their arrogance made #1 and #3 more true.

But it doesn’t.

In fact, one day, I’m going to make it a point to hire a Vandy graduate just to prove a point. haha

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Nov 21, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Only if you can later say you fired a Vandy grad

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by VolBrian on Nov 21, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

"Oh well at least we've got basketball

CLEVELAND STATE season."

______________________________________________
Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Nov 21, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

*first day of the NCAA tournament

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

my opinion

is that is just dumb

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 21, 2011 1:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

funny. mine too

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I have never once in my life heard a single word...

…uttered by Tony Basilio. I take it he is some Knoxville radio guy?

Anyway, because I had never once heard the man speak — and still haven’t — I never had occassion to form an opinion about him one way or another.

In view of the above quote, my opinion has been fully formed. You never wanna go FULL retard.

No homer.

by kidbourbon on Nov 21, 2011 11:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

you never heard about how we had Lovie Smith on a plane to Knoxville during the January 2010 coaching search?

Tony B broke that story

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

He's in Knoxville. I forget what the number is on the dial, but he bills himself as the 'independent' sports talk radio.

Loves to rag on Sports Animal as being in the pocket of the athletic department. He also has some guy called “X” who gives hot recruiting tips.

by David Hooper on Nov 21, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure X gets his tips from the VolNation recruiting forum

all of his inside information is a couple days old. although I grant that he may’ve had legit sources during the Kiffin administration

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, should have clarified that.

Didn’t mean that he was a truly hot source. Just that it was one of the schticks of the show.

by David Hooper on Nov 21, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

no, I followed

I was just continuing to make fun

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

one of these days

Lovie’s plane is going to land, and that will be interesting. Is there a Lovie-clause in Dooley’s contract?

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd for not going FULL retard

"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan

Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.

"The one thing Tennessee always does is kick the sh*t out of Vanderbilt" ~~ Derek Dooley

by VolBrian on Nov 22, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Vote for my haiku!

End birdjam’s reign of terror!

Seriously, vote for me.

by Caban on Nov 21, 2011 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

yours isn't even a haiku

vote for me!

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm the only one who has been able to unseat the great birdjam!

Vote for me!

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 21, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I unseated him in week two

and suffered last week from unjust prejudice against ESPN doggerel

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW

I don’t think the first Figgie try was that bad. 4th and goal from the 5ish and 4th and goal from the 2ish are very different things. From the 2 you have a run threat, especially with the way Poole and the O-Line were playing — see that Da’Rick got single coverage in the corner, which I don’t think happens from the 5. Further, if you fail at the 5, well, oh well hopefully they’ll just go 3 and out. They take over at the two, though, and you’ve got a real chance for a Fierce Deity Jackson play for a safety.

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Nov 21, 2011 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

Though I understand you're pointing out the difference

Between the right call and the “right” call. I’m just piping up to silence any of the people that think going for the FG was a bad idea. It might not have been the best, but it wasn’t some bone-headed decision or anything.

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Nov 21, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was 50/50 on the 5

and go for it on the 2.

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, exactly what I was trying to say.

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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.

by bobothevol on Nov 21, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought this was an excellent post

Nice work, Brad. Very well written.

No homer.

by kidbourbon on Nov 21, 2011 11:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

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