RTT Podcast Tonight at 9:00, Tennessee-Vandy, and Tennessee-Duke
by Joel Hollingsworth on Nov 21, 2011 8:24 PM EST
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PrintRTT is doubling up this week with podcasts on both Monday and Tuesday night. Tonight we talk the dramatic Tennessee-Vanderbilt game, whatever happen(s)(ed) against Duke in Maui (the game thread for which goes up at 4:30), and the Lady Vols -- gasp! -- losing yesterday in OT.
Tomorrow, we have the guys from SB Nation Kentucky blog A Sea of Blue to talk about the upcoming football game between the Vols and the Wildcats. And we'll probably heat up some leftovers from tonight.
If you're listening live tonight at 9:00 PM Eastern, follow along in the comments below with your questions and thoughts. Here's the pertinent info:
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You can listen live by clicking the sometimes magic orange widget below. Or you can wait, download it later, and listen to it in your car on the way to work tomorrow.
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Men's Hoops:
It’s early, obviously, but a win tomorrow against Memphis at 2:00 PM might mean we should consider re-evaluating goals for the year. The team is playing really hard defense, and if Trae Golden is able to continue playing at a high level with great passing and scoring, I think we can compete against the SEC. Maymon is so much improved from last year, especially at FTs, that his continued development is a big thing to keep an eye on. He got a ton of good looks inside against Duke today but couldn’t seem to get them to go down consistently. And he should not ever never shoot 3s.
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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
No kidding on that last point.
3aymon just looks weird.
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by Chris Pendley on Nov 21, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
so does Jeronn3
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Jero3e. 3erome. Well, 3erome doesn't look that bad. Maybe 3rome.
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by Chris Pendley on Nov 21, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Maymon3y?
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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
when did we change his name to Jerome?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
when I got lazy?
3eronne.
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by Chris Pendley on Nov 21, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
although I do like Trey Golden
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by Chris Pendley on Nov 21, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
that one's just too easy
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
It'll get awkward when he goes off, though.
treytreytreytreytrey Golden
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by Chris Pendley on Nov 21, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
haha
yep
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
I've already shifted goals from "competitive" to "tournament"
hopefully that’s not unfair.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
My goal...
competing for 3rd in the East, and being in the running for a bid.
Would be one heck of a job.
if we compete for 3rd in the East
we should have a bid
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Disclaimer:
I will be watching the end of Pens-Isles during this.
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Oh Calapari.
Calapari Calapari Calapari.
“so ridiculous you can’t even get mad”—is John Calipari in a nutshell.
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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
Posited:
the easiness of our ability to three-ize your name should dictate your need to take threes, and likely indicates that you can’t make them consistently enough to take them.
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Mill3r is ugly as well.
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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
so Trey is first
then McB43, then. . .
1. $wipa
2. Wa$pun
3. Jo$h Rich
Tatum and McRae should stick to driving
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Ca3eron?
I feel like you can sideways an M in a pinch.
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by Chris Pendley on Nov 21, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think we're better off with Tate$
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
I will say
I am 100% on the Cuonzo Martin bandwagon right now. Not much of a feeling out period. Diving in headfirst.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 8:41 PM EST reply actions
Rich Rodrigez to Arizona.
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man, that happened in the first half of the Duke game
did not one make fun of it? or was I just reading the edsbs twitter?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
good man, Will
my hands still hurt a little bit.
also, I got a nosebleed in the second quarter and did not leave my seat. napkin in pocket ftw
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:03 PM EST reply actions
check email.
LV talk coming up in a bit, if you’re around.
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by Chris Pendley on Nov 21, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
I think watching this play will help recruiting
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:09 PM EST reply actions
I mean the fact that we're going toe to toe with good teams
hopefully getting some wins too.
Dooley has to recruit in the face of blowouts on the field. Going into the year, it looked like Cuonzo would too. So far, it’s not looking that way
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
that said
the style of play wasn’t as boring as we expected
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I agree that the competitiveness will help
I’m not sure we’re as “fun” to watch as we were under Pearl, but we’re SO MUCH more fundamentally better.
Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.
Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!
I enjoy watching this team more than Pearl's last three
he was so exciting early on, but the lack of fundamentals just became extraordinarily frustrating.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
agree
Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.
Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!
by Brad Shepard on Nov 21, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
2009 not included?
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by Chris Pendley on Nov 21, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
2010 tournament not included. or the run where everybody was suspended
I remember some fights on RTT after the SEC tournament about whether or not we were a genuinely terrible team. I was on the “no” side, but the “yes” side had ammo.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I was more emotionally invested in that team than others.
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by Chris Pendley on Nov 21, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
I was more emotionally invested in that team than any of the others
I love that team. But there were stretches of the season where we all hated that team. Particularly December and the six week stretch from the beginning of February to the end of the SEC tournament
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
I think a lot of it
Is having a good PG. Bobby Maze was solid, but he didn’t make as many players per game as Trae has so far.
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that does help
and we haven’t had it since CJ Watson. Even the 2008 tournament was extremely frustrating, for that reason
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Which is me saying:
I don’t think our 2009 team was very fundamentally bad, and Pearl teams his last 3 years played great half-court defense. In fact, that’s how we won, along with great performances by some real great scorers. We didn’t really light up scoreboards once JP and Lofton graduated.
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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
his last two years played great halfcourt D
that 2008-09 team didn’t do a damn thing well.
But this halfcourt offense is a breath of fresh air. point guard!
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
we play Florida on a random Saturday in February
:-p
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:27 PM EST reply actions
Pitt lost to Long Beach State
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:28 PM EST reply actions
Just glancing through the schedule
The placement of Mississippi State is just cruel. So is Georgia
Saturday Jan 7. Florida (Knoxville, 11 AM)
Thursday Jan 12. Mississippi State (Starkville, 9 PM)
Saturday Jan 14. Kentucky (Knoxville, noon)
Wednesday Jan 18. Georgia (Athens, 8 PM)
Saturday Jan 21. UConn (Knoxville, 4 PM)
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:31 PM EST reply actions
it still seems weird to me
when people talk Arkansas as a basketball school
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:32 PM EST reply actions
has Arkansas made an Elite Eight in my lifetime?
. . . Wikipedia tells me three times actually. 1990 (Final Four), 1991 (Elite Eight), 1994 (Title).
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
but considering that I was 6 years old when that title happened
I forgive myself
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
can't we take run defense?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:35 PM EST reply actions
Better situational awareness.
When not understanding the play, that “checkdown to Poole” was a pretty good decision.
my dream bowl is still Georgia Tech in the MCB
they have more name recognition than UNC or UVA or anyone, and the option is completely beatable with extra prep. Georgia Tech has averaged a 25.3 to 8.0 loss in bowl games since Paul Johnson took over.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:43 PM EST reply actions
when I say "beatable" by the way
I mean “we will completely crush the option because it is terrible in bowl games”
I WANT TO SEE THIS
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
and when I say "terrible"
I mean. . .
in three years since Paul Johnson took over, Georgia Tech has scored TWO (!) offensive touchdowns in bowl games.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
I want to see what Fierce Deity Jackson might do against an option attack.
How many times this year have we seen him literally standing there waiting to see who gets the ball before tackling/disrupting the play?
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Brad:
Poole said straight out in his press conference that he sees things better out of the pistol
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:49 PM EST reply actions
Great. That is valid, I think.
Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.
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by Brad Shepard on Nov 21, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
I heard about it during the week
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:50 PM EST reply actions
I had shut off talk radio for much of the week.
For obvious reasons.
by David Hooper on Nov 21, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
obviously
I saw it on VolNation. When I’m feeling particularly patient or trollish, I head over there
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
It would only be long term if they actually commit to it over the offseason.
The half-hearted point is very valid.
expected tweaks in the schedule
Arkansas and Mississippi State are at risk. At least one will be replaced by Missouri. The other may or may not be replaced by Texas A&M or another West team (if they re-start the rotation).
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:00 PM EST reply actions
ah
much less surprising now
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Jeronne Maymon was named player of the game according to CBS recap
14 points, 12 boards. shooting percentage of about .06%
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:20 PM EST reply actions
NO LEACH TO KENTUCKY!
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:20 PM EST reply actions
we have enough exciting in the SEC, no exciting at Kentucky
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:21 PM EST reply actions
Will:
I went to UNC/Louisville this year. I understand. I left at halftime. It was 0-0.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:27 PM EST reply actions
UVA is a Yankee school
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:27 PM EST reply actions
Georgia leads #20 Cal late in the first half
and UCLA took a 40-38 lead on Chaminade at halftime
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:29 PM EST reply actions
HOOPER I HATE YOU
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:34 PM EST reply actions
yep
and seriously, next time somebody talks about how we need to avoid Georgia Tech at all costs in the bowl game (I think both Will and Brad have done this), I swear I’m gonna call in and go on a ten minute rant about why Georgia Tech is the perfect bowl opponent for our program right now.
Seriously, two offensive touchdowns in their last three bowl games. How many times can I say this before people stop talking about how scary their offense is?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
My argument continues to be wasted practice time
by Will Shelton on Nov 21, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think the win is more important.
Not that they wouldn’t win against a different team, but so long as they win.
by David Hooper on Nov 21, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
imo, we have a better shot of beating GT than we do of beating Wake or UNC
NC State is impossible to get a read on.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
How would the Vandy game affect Wake's odds of the MCB?
I.e. if Vandy wins, does Wake have a shot at going? If Wake wins?
by David Hooper on Nov 21, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Wake is ahead of both NC State and UNC in conference, and tied with Georgia Tech
but it depends on how the selection committee is thinking. I assume they get picked behind Tech, but it’s a tossup with UNC and State.
That said, the MCB is the ACC #5 selection. The Charlotte nonsense bowl thing is the #4. I could see them taking a local school and letting Tech (or UVA, depending on who the Sun Bowl picks) fall.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I really think it's going to end up being Virginia
if they lose Saturday. VT/Clemson will go Orange/Chick-Fil-A. Champs Sports Bowl in Orlando gets the next choice, which screams Florida State. Sun Bowl is next – I think travel will be a non-factor here because no one will really go that far, so they’ll take Georgia Tech. Then the Belk Bowl in Charlotte – that screams NC/NC State.
Given the choice between UVA and UNC/NC State, I think the Music City would take UVA
by Will Shelton on Nov 21, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
that leaves the Independence and Military (DC) Bowls
for UNC/NC State and Wake
by Will Shelton on Nov 21, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think the MCB would love to set up a rematch of last year
but if the Sun Bowl takes UVA over Tech, I think GT just having more credibility than UNC would put the Jackets in Nashville.
If the Sun Bowl takes UVA and the Belk takes Wake or State, the MCB shouldn’t have too hard a time talking themselves into UNC over UVA, especially since UNC beat UVA pretty convincingly.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
actually, NC State also beat UVA convincingly
interestingly
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
(and those are UVA's only two conference losses)
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
counterargument: momentum building win over a nationally recognized opponent
yes, Cincy may be better, but people know about Georgia Tech.
Also, if people are going to try to run the zone read, I don’t think practice on the option is really wasted.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
but I will grant that that argument is more believable than that their offense is scary
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
this is completely and undeniably true
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
OT:
Tennessee’s top basketball prospect, Jarnell Stokes, has been ruled ineligible for his senior season by TSSAA. We’re fighting Memphis, Arkansas, and I think Kentucky for him.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 21, 2011 10:56 PM EST reply actions
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