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Tennessee Volunteers Recruiting Roundup Week 11


It happens every year about this time: Teams begin taking a look at their recruiting board, examining the needs they've seen throughout the season and searching through the high school and junior-college ranks to see if anybody can fill the needs on the team.

The product of that search -- and, in the life of a prospect, having a standout senior season -- can be seen in Tuesday's commitment of three-star cornerback Daniel Gray to Tennessee.

Gray has solid size for a corner, listed anywhere between 5-foot-11 and 6-feet and weighing somewhere between 165-180. He has a very good jam game at the line and showed quality man-to-man skills during his senior season at Boyd Anderson High School in Lauderdale Lakes, Fla., [Gerald Williams' old stomping grounds]. His coach said Gray is working on zone concepts and is improving his ball skills.

All that is teachable. The one thing that cannot be taught is speed, and Gray has it. According to Scout, he has been clocked at a 4.37. According to 247 Sports, that number is 4.34. Whatever the case, he is FAST. Given that the Vols don't have very many fast corners, and speed is something lacking throughout the entire program, the coaching staff deemed Gray a late take.

Star-divide

If you want to know how the 19th public commitment for the Vols impacts the recruiting board, I'm not the one to answer. UT also extended an offer in the past couple of weeks to Gainesville, Fla., CB Chris Bivins -- the former teammate of Jordan Williams and Trevaris Saulsberry and the cousin of Curt Maggitt -- so where does this put him? Do the Vols still feel good about DB commits Kenneth Crawley [who has done nothing to indicate he is at risk to go elsewhere] and LaDarrell McNeil [who has visited Texas Tech and is drawing interest from Texas]? Does this mean local products safety Cody Blanc and kicker George Bullock are going to be asked to gray shirt or walk on?

None of these may happen. But I do know the Vols have a ton of irons in the fire out there with limited space, especially if you begin to think about adding last year's cornerback commit Tino Thomas into the mix and giving a scholarship to Notre Dame transfer Alex Bullard.

UT still wants to sign a running back, and Florence, Ala., ATH Beniquez Brown and Florida State commit Mario Pender are at the top of that list. The Vols would love to get safety Jordan Diggs on board, but Nebraska and Vanderbilt are high on his list, too. There's OT Andrew Jelks who the coaches will hold a spot for while he makes up his mind. Then there are skill players like Alton "Pig" Howard and Coradelle Patterson who have UT high on their lists. Alabama LB Javiere Mitchell is still a possibility. So is safety Trae Elston. UT will almost certainly accept the commitment of tight end Justin Meredith, a North Carolina commit who looks like he'll flip to orange. Then, there's the must-take of defensive linemen Denico Autry and Darrington Sentimore, if they'll come. The Vols have been rumored to lead for both.

I'm sure I'm leaving out some, but the bottom line is there are many, many options. And the fact is the Vols -- no matter how unpopular -- are not in a position to be coddling commitments if they get somebody to pledge whom they like more. It's a fine line to walk, and I'm glad I'm not making the decisions.

But it appears Gray is a player the Vols want in their future plans, and I'm fine by that. The size, the speed, the evaluation by coaches ... all that led to this commitment, and even though he flipped on a bad Kansas team, other programs like Nebraska and Ole Miss had offered and others were evaluating. It's not like this kid came out of nowhere [although I'd never heard of him.]

We need corners. Our coaching staff found one they liked. They offered last week. He committed yesterday. The kid wants to be a Vol, and now he is one. All of that is fine with me.

  • The Vols continue to get high-quality prospects to visit campus and come away impressed despite a 4-5 record. I'd venture to say UT has done as good a job as any losing team in the country getting top-tier prospects to show interest. [That's about as back-handed a compliment as there is.] That continued last week when -- on the heels of UT getting DT Damien Jacobs to reaffirm his commitment and DE teammate Denico Autry to claim the Vols his leader after the South Carolina game -- UT hosted FSU running back commit Mario Pender and teammate Jordan Diggs. Pender came away from the visit feeling like what we all could have told him all season: That he can come in and start immediately. Will it be enough to get him away from Jimbo Fisher? I doubt it, but an elite talent like him is needed in the backfield along with Marlin Lane, Alden Hill and Imani Cross. As for Diggs, Nebraska seems like the top competition, but the Vols told him they'd use him like Janzen Jackson, and I think he likes what he hears.
  • Again, since we missed last week [sorry about that] Autry -- who is a beast who would walk onto campus and immediately start at defensive end -- told several outlets last week that the Vols lead Bama and Mississippi State for his services.
  • Another player UT is looking to get back in on is Memphis cornerback -- and 247 Sports top overall player in the state -- Sheldon Dawson. With Larry Porter's career status up in the air in Memphis, UT and Arkansas are trying to get Dawson to visit, and Dawson has said the Vols are recruiting him hard. How Gray's commitment will affect that, I'm not sure.
  • According to 247's Barton Simmons, Memphis Central DE Frank Herron -- a former teammate of Cameron Clear -- has earned a UT offer. He is a 2013 prospect. Also, UT has offered an elite 2013 DE Jason Hatcher of Louisville Trinity.

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If we could nab that JuCo pair on the DL (in addition to Jacobs)

we could see immediate and significant improvement there next year.

Also, take this for what it’s worth, but there are a couple people on the VN recruiting boards who seem to know what they’re talking about, and they’re saying we offered both Gray and Bivins with the understanding that there was one spot available and the first one to decide would get it.

I’m both excited and worried about the number of prospects we have left on the board and the number of spots we have left to fill.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

That's good to hear on the pair.

I like Bivins, but you snooze, you lose. I know nothing about this kid other than the coaches and other teams like him. I haven’t seen his updated film.

Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 9, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Has Tennessee really offered Jeff Overbaugh?

I was messing around with the Rivals database and did a search for Alaska prospects. Well, there was only one listed and it was Jeff Overbaugh. He’s an offensive lineman from Anchorage, and his college choices list Tennessee as the only team with an offer.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

Never heard of the guy

We need a long snapper. But a scholarship??

Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 9, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be really surprised...

if an Alaskan long snapper got an offer from any SEC school and didn’t accept on the spot. Thinking Rivals has some bad information, or it was a very early offer conditional on space.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Would be cool to have an Alaskan starting though...

Imagine the potential for terrible special interest profiles by ESPN.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry but
Alaskan long snapper

just sounds like a punchline.

We're watching when you are not. Protecting against another 9-11.

by memphispete on Nov 9, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

or a meal at the Red Lobster

We're watching when you are not. Protecting against another 9-11.

by memphispete on Nov 9, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sarah Palin Joke...

Glen Rice. Alaska. Shootout. Tasty.

::must restrain self::

No homer.

by kidbourbon on Nov 9, 2011 11:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

/sigh

Am I the only one who watched UHF?

by David Hooper on Nov 10, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Ahhh UHF

Those quirky extra channels that you could barely receive. If I got the rabbit ears just right with the extra tin foil I could pick up hockey and bball from that little Atlanta station called Turner Broadcasting all the way up in Chattanooga. UHF was where I got my Monty Python fix and also introduced to classic musical acts from the Austin City Limits show.

by phil g on Nov 10, 2011 6:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Good stuff as usual Brad, thanks.

And it might be worth keeping an eye on the Ole Miss situation. I know their top commit is a DT we were recruiting.

Same with Penn St to a lesser degree now that Paterno is out and everything is crazy up there.

Also have seen rumors that “Pig” is a silent commit but you know how rumors about 18-year-old’s go…….

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by VolBrian on Nov 9, 2011 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

I heard that too.

We covered those rumors in the last recruiting roundup here: http://www.rockytoptalk.com/2011/10/26/2515934/tennessee-volunteers-recruiting-roundup-week-9

I sure hope we get Pig and Patterson.

Good info on the Ole Miss DT. I’ll check in on him.

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 9, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Well done as always

Turning into one of my favorite, weekly posts.

"We've got weapons, we've still got weapons... That's terrible, I apologize."
- Bruce Pearl

by bsmithinc on Nov 9, 2011 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

Very much appreciated.

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by Brad Shepard on Nov 9, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Game thread here?

Akron is beating Mississippi State in basketball by 7 in the 2H, btw.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

That took me a second.

You meant MSU in basketball. I was totally not thinking that and scrambling to find the game. ;-)

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

word...

Akron beating any SEC team in football would be worth watching. State is making a comeback in the final 4 minutes now, on ESPNU.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm watching hockey

and I want to punch the NBC/VS announcers. Philly is sitting behind their net and refusing to attack Tampa, and during the commercial interview, they asked Philly’s coach if he was “trying to send a message that this defense formation was unacceptable.” Seriously.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

But they must have failed

Because Akron wins by 10.

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Twitter
@edsbs: RT @sbnation: RT @Jim_Gardner: Action News source says #JoePaterno will not coach another game. #Spanier has resigned. #PSUcharges

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

Oy.

Just wake me when it’s all over.

I usually listen to sports radio when commuting, but I’ve had to leave it off all week long. The invective is just too much.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess we try to avoid moralizing around here

We’ll just leave it at “it’s sad” and “somebody should have done something.”

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by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

The whole thing sucks. I just get tired of it when one person makes a side point (e.g. sucks that Paterno’s career has to end this way) and eleventythreeve people have to I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT PATERNO WHAT ABOUT THE REAL VICTIMS RAAAAAAEEGGGGG!!1.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah...

it’s been going 24/7 on the Chattanooga, and Nashville stations… and I’ve heard it after sundown out of St Louis and Philadelphia when I can get their AM signals.

Black Shoe Diaries has wisely put a 2 day delay in joining their site… one of the few times I agree with that.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, defintely.

I’d have made it a week or more. I feel for them. It’s one of the hardest moments to be running a site – trying to be a fan while de-conflicting your own emotions. Not fun.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, hey, look

TWWL saying what you just said

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Want a seriously tangential thought?

Had this thing been handled in anything remotely resembling a timely manner, Bobby Bowden would probably be the all-time wins leader.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

And Paterno IS out...

never thought it would end this way

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

Served as DB coach under Sandusky...

not sure promoting him is a good idea, they should probably have gone with some new blood even if it kinda screwed up the order of succession.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Galen Hall...

Would be a better interim choice… he’s been a HC before, and he wouldn’t really have time to get busted by the NCAA like he did at UF.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

This presser, in summary:

1. A bunch of people are fired.
2. rabblerabblerabble
3. I already answered that in point #2.
4. Don’t all talk at once.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

Guess that tells you what they think about Wednesday night MACtion

Get thee to ESPNU!

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I caught the tail end

talk about embarrassing. I heard at least one questioner whose voice cracked while asking a question.

“Why didn’t you let him finish out the season with dignity?”

“I’m not answering that question.”

“WHY AREN’T YOU ANSWERING THAT QUESTION?!?!?” /cries

smh

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

I had tuned out before then.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I had been watching overtime of Bolts/Flyers before that

so I only saw 2-3 questions. And it was real, real ugly by that point

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

someone also asked if they were concerned about a riot

with the implicature that they were causing a riot

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen some tweets indicating that very few questions were actually asked by reporters

Rucker said at least one was asked by a player.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

So...win one for the JoePa?

How in the world do you get ready to play at least 4 more games?

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Seniors: get ready for the draft if you have a shot. Study hard if you don't.

Juniors: hope for penalty-free transfer.
Sophomores and Freshmen: get ready to be courted by threeve schools.

Translated: you ride it out and don’t look back.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

But is this a NCAA sanction situation?

I know that Sandusky had access to the facilities, but he was acting in his role with the charity, not as a coach.

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm glad I don't have to answer that question.

It might be that the NCAA doesn’t sanction, but also allows transfer. I could see a few players not wanting to be associated with the program any longer, and it would put the NCAA in a sticky position to basically say, “no, you have to stay with a school that is now known for covering up child rape”.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

They're gonna pull a Tennessee 08'...

Expect them to get destroyed by Nebraska.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I do.

Has Vegas pulled that game? I would have.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I might've just gone by and noticed Nebraska -3.5 and done something about it

I’ve been torn between “win one for JoePa” and “roll over.” This afternoon, I was leaning the former. After tonight. . . roll over.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

So...

Black Shoe Diaries comments thread is pretty terrible right now.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

It could have been worse

But…it’s about what you would expect.

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The student mob is on CNN right now

Seems relatively civil thus far.

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

The sheer amount of backwards ball caps

indicates a very high douchebag factor to that crowd.

by danmarcel on Nov 9, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

point

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I wear my hat backwards a lot

So whatcha sayin’ about me? O_o

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sayin turn that dang thing around

and while you’re at, get off my lawn and turn off that damn rock n roll music.

by danmarcel on Nov 9, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

You old fogies

I’m going to go home and blog about my pain and suffering and how my parents don’t understand me!

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The funny thing is

I don’t consider myself to be old, but the more I examine my reactions to the ‘kids these days’, the more I have to realize that, while I might not be ‘old’, I am definitely ‘dated’.

by danmarcel on Nov 9, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this, too, sometimes

And I’m only 25.

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

wait, I'm younger than you?

lol

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I almost added a comment

About how I_S was going to come up here and say he couldn’t relate to me on something :-P

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it too

my youngest sister has her learner’s permit, and that’s creepy

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Exhibit A

There’s way too many kids going to college and the incremental crowd are mostly crude douche’s who have no business on a properly defined ‘University’ campus.

by phil g on Nov 10, 2011 6:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow...

Black Shoe Diaries commenters are encouraging players to boycott the game, and the rioters to destroy the property of the Trustees. Nice rational behavior.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

I know a lot of us supported Pearl pretty vehemently

(and I’m not even trying to compare the circumstances), but I really can’t imagine anything like that.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Pearl is obviously not JoePa

as UT Bball is obviously not PSU football. But I do think, over time, they’ll come to realize the same thing we all did: the powers that be made the right and only move.

by Will Shelton on Nov 10, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Within the context of hating that this happened anywhere,

I’m so glad I don’t have to deal with it on this site.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

If this were happening to Johnny or Phil

I’d probably just throw up and they’re nowhere near the iconic status of Joe freakin’ Pa

by phil g on Nov 10, 2011 6:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Rational goes out the window at times like these

I’m sure it didn’t happen in this fine establishment, but think about what was sad about Hamilton during the Fulmer Flap or about Lane during the Kiffin Kerfuffle. These are crazy times for them.

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, think about what was said

Though think about what was sad, too…

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to toot my own horn

But I’m pretty proud of “The Kiffin Kerfuffle”…can we refer to it thusly from now on? :-)

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, crap

Here I thought I was original and stuff.

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I gotta admit, there's something bizarrely adorable about that girl.

Normally that kind of personality drives me right up a wall. Maybe it’s because I only get her in 30 second doses.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

She was on an episode of ER

It really threw me for a loop.

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't stand her

Can’t stand the looks, the cutesy persona, if the date were to ever happen it would last the absolute minimum and I’d rush her home with the excuse that my cat was having a seizure – even though I don’t own a cat.

by phil g on Nov 10, 2011 6:33 AM EST up reply actions  

She was on Mad Men

and looked completely different. In the telephone room.

by artdude on Nov 11, 2011 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

gettin' in on that action?

hypothetically?

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

eh...

I may after the Thursday games

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be a little surprised if that line is still there

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

CNN's British anchor just asked when the next college football game would be involving Penn State

uhhhh. . . Saturday

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

I thought she was an interesting choice

She said something about “can you explain this for our viewers who aren’t familiar with football,” and I’m pretty sure she was asking for herself.

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by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Miami TD...

3 point game with ~5 left

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

OT (or rather on topic):

anybody else see Zach Fulton today say he wanted to take direct snaps in the Fat Cat?

I laughed.

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

after the last few years

I’m just breathing a sigh of relief that this isn’t Knoxville

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

from your lips. . . errr. . . keyboard

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Comes out...

That the search committee was thisclose to offering the HC job to Sandusky.

The same guys that led our basketball search and almost hired the GT coach right before the NCAA hammer hit him.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh heh...

Nervous laughter is just the same as regular laughter…what, you don’t believe me? Why would I be nervous? Why? WHY? WHYYYYYYYY?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

No kidding.

My mom made me read this book when I was ten. It’s stuck with me, as it explains so much.

by danmarcel on Nov 9, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

Was thinking exactly that. With an addendum of “the incompetent have time to pursue higher positions because the competent are too busy making things work”.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

CNN just brought in Dr. Phil

I think it might be time for bed

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by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 9, 2011 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

BSD admin...

that was being threatened has busted out the old banhammer.

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

Good.

Swing until you feel better, bro.

by David Hooper on Nov 9, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, completely off topic

I just ate four PB&J sandwiches. There’s a very real possibility I have a tapeworm or something.

by danmarcel on Nov 9, 2011 11:24 PM EST reply actions  

It gets a run for its money from the BLT

But I’m not sure there’s a sandwich better than PB&J.

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

has a professor with an obsession with marshmallow fluff and PB...

to the point of getting extra credit for giving her free sandwiches.

/vomits

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

This will sound bizarre

But Doritos dipped in marshmallow cream is delicious.

by danmarcel on Nov 9, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not a tumor!

Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.

by VolnVA on Nov 9, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Rumor...

PSU seniors claiming they will sit out the Nebraska game.

/stupid

by Caban on Nov 9, 2011 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

If Im interim head coach I make it crystal clear

that this is a free country, and they can do whatever they like. But anyone who is not suited up for the Nebraska game will not suit up for the rest of the year.

by danmarcel on Nov 10, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 10, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Also

With the Ohio State stuff and now this, I don’t want to hear ANYTHING from a Big 10 fan about how the SEC has misplaced priorities.

by danmarcel on Nov 10, 2011 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't go that far

it’s hard to compare across cases, but the U seemed much more widespread, and aborting a child without telling the father isn’t made tame by much. I suppose getting non-athletic administrators in on the game is a step up. . . errrr. . . down. And the nature of the crime. . . it might not be worse than anything else, but there’s nothing worse than it.

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 10, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, they really aren't comparable.

At the time, I was more thinking along the lines of “if both stories broke on the same day”, that the PSU one would dominate the headlines and discussion.

Though now that I think about it, if PSU, OSU, Pearl/Kiffy/etc., and Miami had all broken on the same day, we could have simply scuttled the internet and started over.

by David Hooper on Nov 10, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

there'd be a higher internet spike than the Donovan goal against Algeria, we can say that for sure

but yeah, Penn State would’ve dominated headlines because there’s more non-sports to it. there were some non-NCAA crimes committed by Da U, but they aren’t the ones that get the nation into a frenzy (even though they probably should).

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Nov 10, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

grain of salt
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
I can confirm there will soon be new, major allegation involving child sex abuse in Sandusky case. Told tonite it could come before Saturday

SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
If what I was told tonight about the details of the new allegation in Sandusky child sex case is true, it will horrify the public.

by Caban on Nov 10, 2011 12:26 AM EST reply actions  

...
MarkMadden Don’t believe this can get worse? Give it 72 hrs. People really digging into Second Mile. Even more shocking revelation is ahead. Yikes.

by Caban on Nov 10, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep...

Going to be dozens of expulsions, and classes will probably be cancelled.
Apparently finals are next week, but I’m not sure what they can do if the students are out there all night.

by Caban on Nov 10, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Might be best to just shut down the whole university until January.

Especially if the rumors of this going (even more) plaid are true.

by David Hooper on Nov 10, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Surreal thought

that’s Mark Madden of WCW fame…and I am terrified that he’s right

by Will Shelton on Nov 10, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

If Paterno ends up...

being complicit in this case, things are going to go completely nuts.

As a Bama fan said, just imagine that Paterno was Bear Bryant instead.

by Caban on Nov 10, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Time for bed.

Hopefully a night’s sleep without dreams.

by David Hooper on Nov 10, 2011 12:37 AM EST reply actions  

What are these morons rioting about?

Are they mad at the school, AD and Paterno for this horrific mess or are they mad that anyone dare’s to force the old senile into retirement where he should have been 10 years ago? I refuse to watch cable news beat a story into the ground so am not really up to date with this.

by phil g on Nov 10, 2011 6:41 AM EST reply actions  

They're rioting because their pride is hurt.

(Ignoring those who are there because it’s the “place to be”.) Watching Paterno get fired is watching the cornerstone to their PSU fandom get tossed in the trash.

by David Hooper on Nov 10, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

That's the problem with letting a personality become larger than the program

That’s why there should be a rough 10 yr rule/guideline for leaders of any institution where they are not the sole or primary owner.

These kids should be hiding in shame not lashing out or rioting because it took so long to fire and arrest all of those associated…idiots.

by phil g on Nov 10, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

But that’s what would happen if people were rational.

Thought they do have one point: that some other people haven’t been run out on a rail is insanity.

by David Hooper on Nov 10, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

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