I can confirm, via a football program source, that Tennessee receivers coach Charlie Baggett is retiring
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Starting silly season on a bad note
I’ve heard rumors of a clash between Baggett and Chaney, so this probably means we’re keeping Chaney around
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:12 AM EST reply actions
I don't think this is necessarily terrible tbh
Plenty of good WR coaches out there and I like Chaney’s offense.
Baggett, while having an outstanding resume, didn’t seem to do much outside of getting Da’Rick’s talent under control and focused for the most part. See: Zach Rogers.
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a WR's coach is a WR's coach
not the biggest thing on the staff. but he’s well known as one of the best in the business, and the improvement from Justin and Da’Rick this year was tremendous. Also, we have about 4 WRs committed. So it’s not like this isn’t a blow
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree
His reputation and resume are certainly impeccable, but it’s my opinion that Da’Rick and Justin played to their talent level just as Arnett did. I would rank this season’s WR’s as one of the worst positions on the team as far as the talent being “coached up”.
As far as the recruiting aspect. I would only be really concerned about the commits for which he was primary. It’s not always the positional coach. I do believe Chaney was Da’Rick’s recruiter and Joseph was Hunter’s…….
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"The one thing Tennessee always does is kick the sh*t out of Vanderbilt" ~~ Derek Dooley
Confirmed from multiple sources now.
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"The one thing Tennessee always does is kick the sh*t out of Vanderbilt" ~~ Derek Dooley
Just when you think it can't get worse at Tennessee ...
It gets worse at Tennessee.
Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.
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Let's not jump off the cliff yet.........
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"The one thing Tennessee always does is kick the sh*t out of Vanderbilt" ~~ Derek Dooley
Who's jumping off a cliff?
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with seeing the loss of a good position coach as a net negative for the program.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Operative word is "yet" obviously
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by VolBrian on Dec 1, 2011 11:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You can feel free to jump
I’ll reserve judgement until a new hire is made.
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Again, who is jumping off a cliff (or even threatening to do so)?
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by birdjam on Dec 1, 2011 12:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
EVERYONE!!!!
THEY’RE ALL LINED UP LIKE LEMMINGS, GET IN LINE! PLEASE!
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No need to panick on this one lots of swirl around this where it might make good sense
Move the current QB coach to WR, a job he’s had before
Have Chaney take over QBs
Opens a coaching spot for RB coach
Still TBD on CHH for the o-line job
Some swirl on Baggett:
- Least hard working coach on the staff
- Wouldn’t take appropriate firm discipline to Da’Rick and possibly others
- Some argue that there’s not been decent WR development
- Some valid questions about the WR rotations in game in terms of how much Z Rogers was playing
I can’t vouch for any of those but if some are true it is possible this position can be upgraded.
the rumors that I'd heard
were that Baggett wanted to discipline Da’Rick and Dooley always took Da’Rick’s side. Swain sure believes it. He’s going off on Da’Rick on twitter.
Also, look at the difference between freshman Justin and Da’Rick and sophomore Justin and Da’Rick
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
I think the jump from freshman Just and Da'Rick to sophomore J&D
is playing time as much as anything. Especially with Hunter. He was making huge plays whenever he was given the chance his freshman year, the chances were just fewer and further between.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 1, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know about the rumors.
But I see Justin and Da’Rick’s progression as natural more than anything else. Justin was there last season just behind two established guys.
Once he and Da’Rick learned the routes, it was just a matter of time before this happened.
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My biggest argument that our WR's progression was very poor overall this season:
Our third best receiver yardage wise was Justin Hunter. HE PLAYED TWO GAMES!!
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the other guys you were expecting progression from were all freshman or Zach Rogers
oh, and Matt Milton. I sometimes forget he’s on the team
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
They didn't have to be Hunter and Rogers
That type of contirbution, or lack thereof to be exact, is unacceptable in a pass heavy offense.
I don’t care if they’re freshmen, if he is such a great coach as his reputation and resume says he is, there should be a much larger degree of contribution from the other WR’s on the roster aside from TE’s and RB’s.
Here are the receiving stats: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2633/tennessee-volunteers
And this shows that there are 15 WR’s on the roster:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/roster/_/id/2633/tennessee-volunteers
Yes, I know many of those are scout players/walk-ons, but I think my point is valid.
If Baggett is doing such a great job at Tennessee then someone at the WR position needs to be overachieving. At least one. As much as I harp on Zach Rogers’ talent, even he was underachieving this season.
I don’t say all this to suggest that Baggett was or is a terrible coach, just to say that of all the coaches we had this season, he has probably done the worst or most underachieving job of anyone not named the ST specialist coach and would be the most expendable other than the aforementioned guy that can’t get a kicker or punter to do anything.
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I'm guessing it does
and that he’s third behind Rogers and Rivera, slightly ahead of Neal and Arnett. I haven’t looked this up, that’s just a guess
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Not really slightly to be honest.
The numbers he put up in TWO GAMES are in a solid third against guys that played all 12.
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I think less than 70 yards counts as slightly when we're talking a whole season
those numbers came out pretty much exactly how I expected them to. If anyone didn’t believe how much the loss of Hunter hurt. . .
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
That's my point
Hunter got more yards in two games than everyone else not named Da’Rick did all season. That’s huge and unacceptable. Not a reflection on Hunter but on the rest of the group.
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And this was all Baggett's fault?
And had nothing to do with Tyler Bray being injured half the year or the fact that we could not run the ball to save our lives?
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Yes
If you have to blame a coach, you have to blame Baggett. Hunter and Rivera and the backs and TE’s still got their yards, no WR contributed to speak of. Who’s responsibility is the WR’s? Hmm
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I just feel like that is Monday-Morning-Quarterbacking with orange-colored glasses...
When we hired Baggett, everyone was ecstatic about it. When he reeled in Deanthony Arnett last offseason, we saw it as a sign of great things to come. After the first two games, he looked like a genius.
Then Hunter got hurt, we couldn’t run the ball worth a damn, and then Bray got hurt., Naturally our entire offense suffered, including of course, the WRs. Da’Rick’s apparent attitude problems (which Dooley threw Baggett under the bus about, according to multiple reliable sources,) certainly couldn’t have helped things.
I’m not jumping off a cliff and it’s not the end of the world. But I think it is reasonable to see the loss of this coach as a bad thing based on all of the above. I don’t blame Baggett for our terrible offense this year, and I certainly don’t think he was our “most expendable” coach.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
You are entitled to your opinion
Even if we apparently are not. I have said these things all season regarding our WR’s, I just don’t call for a coaches head every time a ball is dropped or a 4th down not converted like so many others.
Once that coach decide to leave, I have no problem pointing out that the job he did this season was sorry and his loss is not bad or good at this time, just a loss of a coach.
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but the guys who were close
*a true freshman who never won a starting job all year
*a converted running back who didn’t really start playing WR until Buffalo
Zach was disappointing, but how quickly do you expect production from Arnett and Neal? Especially with our issues at QB and RB. I just don’t know
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Well, let's go historical then
2004: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2633/year/2004/tennessee-volunteers
Look at all the WR’s on that list. Top two were freshmen.
2005: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2633/year/2005/tennessee-volunteers
Same breakdown regardless of class.
2006: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2633/year/2006/tennessee-volunteers
Ditto
2007: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2633/year/2007/tennessee-volunteers
Arian Foster breaks in at 4. Highest HB ranking in the three years so far.
2008: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2633/year/2008/tennessee-volunteers
Back to normal.
2009: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2633/year/2009/tennessee-volunteers
A TE and RB high up there, but that TE was Stocker.
2010: http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2633/year/2010/tennessee-volunteers
Stocker again.
Now, what does all this mean? It means this was the worst year of perfomance by a group of Tennessee WR’s since at least 2003. And that included a couple of bad/underachieving teams that cost Fulmer his job along with some poor QB’ing here and there.
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you're gonna have to explain to me how this was worse than 2005 or 2008
because your stats seem to tell the opposite story
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
By WR performance?
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If so
and what I am pointing out is simply that our WR’s performed worse this season than any season I can easily find stats on. Soooo, back to 2003.
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But how much of that is WR coaching?
And how much of it is how easy we were to defend with an offense that couldn’t run the ball and several games with Matt Simms/Justin Worley under center?
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
right, by that
our top four WRs this year had 1800 yards. Our top four WRs in 2005 had 1300 yards. Our top four WRs in 2008 had 1100 yards
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
But, and I'm not gonna do the calculations,
you need to take into account total offense and bias.
We obviously have a far, far more pass heavy offense this season than we have any time recently and the WR’s should be playing a much higher role in that than when we were having 1,000 yard rushers each season.
But, also look at the sheer volume of catches by WR’s in a much more balanced offense.
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Bias? I'm biased.
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by Chris Pendley on Dec 1, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Or, allow me to really simplify my position
With all the hype Baggett has as an all-world WR’s coach, I would’ve expected a helluva lot better performance by our WR’s this season then what we got. Everything else aside, there is no excuse for ANY of our WR’s to underachieve under Baggett if he is as advertised. No excuse at all.
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I will say...
that I think it’s not that unlikely that Arnett and the rest of the freshmen WRs just aren’t particularly good.
I tried positing that same thought recently
and was shot down pretty quick, especially regarding Vincent Dallas.
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Arnett is legit. I think he will make real noise next year.
Also this Croom kid coming in is underrated as a 3* and that’s coming from a stars matter guy. He was under the radar, but will be UT’s #1 guy imo in the next couple years. He ran a 4.53 40 at 6’3" 227. He is a beast.
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by what standard?
are you saying they aren’t AJ Green or Julio Jones? Sure. But there’s no reason Arnett can’t be a better Gerald Jones, and Dallas could turn into a DMo
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Just said not unlikely...
not sure how good they will be in the future, but right now they aren’t particularly impressive.
Even not that great WRs can be productive(see Bobby Graham), but so far they don’t strike me as future All-SEC WRs… but I could be wrong.
Arnett is a very good freshman.
As a 3rd option next year he could be lethal. Also I must say espn is normally pretty solid in their recruiting ratings, but the Croom kid is severely underrated imo. A lot of the big name recruiting schools were pushing for higher rated great WRs and he kind of went under the radar and wasnt persued as hard as he shouldve been. He’s a fantastic get and I dont say that about 3*’s much. He has superior athletic ability for his size….He ran a 4.53 40 at 6’3" 227 last spring. As as FSU fan I can speak for some of the most knowledgable recruiting minds close to the program and say he’s known as the one that got away.
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by cerebralfish on Dec 2, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you Phil
These are all concerns I have had about Baggett all season long. I don’t know how many times I’ve had to point these out this season.
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Right now my take is...
“Eh.” It’s not a good thing or a bad thing — yet. When we don’t have a new guy by mid-January, then it’s a bad thing. When we get a great name, then it’s a good thing. Coordinators come and go like cars on the interstate.
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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
How I feel for the most part
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And the fan base clamors for Tee
I’d love to see him back in orange, and it’d go a long way towards halting the grumbling with the former players, but how’s his coaching?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:35 AM EST reply actions
He apparently teaches his WR how to play a mean QB
Too soon?
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by VolnVA on Dec 1, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I ....um ...nice?
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by Chris Pendley on Dec 1, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
This is my face at 11:24am
VFL! Anybody read the horrific locker room account on Tony’s Blog?
http://tonybasilio.com/index.php?page=tony
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if Basilio says it
I feel a little better about it not being true. jmo
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
If Basilio were the only one saying it...
But a lot of what he wrote yesterday has also been reported by the “boring” old, reliable media people like Hyams.
I was actually really surprised to hear what John and Jimmy were saying yesterday. Being the virtual UT mouthpiece station, you rarely hear them rip on anyone, players or coaches. But last night Hyams said he thinks Da’Rick should be kicked off the team. That’s the strongest opinion I have ever heard him express about anything.
Lou Brock loves Lamp.
Was he responsible
for getting the WR ready to play QB with 3 days’ practice?
BRING ’IM ON DOWN!
by pound the rock on Dec 1, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe that was Randy Sanders.....
Ummmmm, yeah…
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BRING IM ON DOWN!!
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Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
How about we give you all back Randy Sanders instead?
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uh yeah no
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, you ripped the tag off.
We can’t take him back. Did you bring a receipt?
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by Chris Pendley on Dec 1, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
So, VN rumors are VN rumors, but everybody trusts LWS, right? LWS is depressing me
this [Baggett tired of Dooley not backing him up] is the issue. everyone is grasping at straws but this is the issue.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:47 AM EST reply actions
There's no positive
to having one of our best assistants “retire”. This offseason is going to be miserable. Not to mention the rumors about Wilcox entertaining offers. I try to be a glass half full kind of guy but lately I’m running on empty.
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OCI an AD insider that posts on Volnation's take
“Charlie’s departure was expected and the entire staff knew about it for a few weeks. He’s heading back to the NFL.”
there's at least one VN rumor that I would be pretty excited about
but I’m not sure how reliable SpringBok is.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
well, his prediction is that we let Hiestand go and hire Tee and Larry Porter
with Chaney shifting to OL. That’d be a win in my book. I don’t know a lot about Tee’s coaching abilities, but if we’re bringing in an absolute homerun hire, bringing in a hometown favorite to steady the base might not be the worst thing ever. and he’s supposed to recruit pretty well anyways
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
SpringBok was in my wedding
He’s a great guy with quality sources, and I use him to source some of the stuff I hear. He’s legit.
Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.
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Lemme try to contact him.
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I'd take that
Would Tee be WR or QB coach? Henshaw can do either job.
his prediction is that Tee would be QB
and Dooley and Hinshaw would work together on WRs
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Now this would be awesome
And I would count this as GOOD (in light of the good vs. bad theme today) especially if it happens quickly.
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From Springbokvol, aka, Brad's buddy
If it all works out, here is how I see things shaping up:
HC: Dooley
OC/OL: Chaney
WR: Hinshaw (with Dooley)
QB: Tee Martin
RB/RC: Larry Porter
ST/TE: Russell
DC: Wilcox
DL: Thompson
LB: Sirmon
DB: Joseph
Not sure what exact titles will be but that is how I see the staff being completed – again if all goes according to plan and people accept what is being offered.
Just talked to Springbok (funny calling him that)
He was surprised by Baggett, as a lot of folks were.
Vols have offered Porter. Haven’t yet offered Tee, but he thinks they will.
His sources are solid.
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Also, as of yesterday ...
Wilcox was “Definitely staying.”
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But there is talk he will offered an HC job.
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if that happens, would he take Sirmon
or would we give Sirmon a promotion after only one year? or do you have any idea?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Sirmon would go unless we made him DC
Still, if Wilcox is a HC somewhere, you’d think Sirmon will be DC. Almost certainly.
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This is scary
Lord knows there’s enough openings. Can’t swing a cat without hitting a program looking for a coach.
I would worry about Arizona State
But I’d think they could do better, like Sumlin better.-
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I'm a bit of a Sumlin skeptic
I might take Wilcox
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Me too
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By the way
I just heard from two different people that the entire recruiting class is solid unless we lost Wilcox/Sirmon.
Then, it all goes to hell.
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Anyone got an icepick and some ether?
And know which part of the human brain controls ambition?
Why am I asking?
Oh, no reason.
everyone who passes as an inside on VolNation
is saying that exact same thing. The fact that we have about 15 defensive commits plays into that a lot
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Sumlin to ASU
Looks like it’s gonna get done.
#wilcoxstaying
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two birds with one stone
makes Wilcox staying more likely, makes a Sumlin offer at any point less likely.
Just gotta worry about UCLA now
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Well, not entirely.
Rumors are now about Mack Brown’s retiring at the end of the year.
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by Chris Pendley on Dec 1, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Texas isn't going to hire a coordinator as HC
and I think Petersen wants a West Coast job.
but I hadn’t heard about that rumor. Ah, silly season
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I just saw it right around when I posted.
The danger isn’t Wilcox. It’s that Harsin’s already there and it’s – quite frankly – one of the few jobs I’d consider leaving Boise for were I Peterson.
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by Chris Pendley on Dec 1, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
He needs to retire...Fulmer redux
He has the luxury that Fulmer didn’t of top shelf recruits from Texas lining up to play without even having to recruit them. Given that and the relative easier conference his performance is even worse than Fulmer’s final years.
this
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease dont' change
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
what are your thoughts on Tee, Brad?
if we get Porter and replace Hiestand, our offensive staff has been upgraded as much as we could’ve hoped for, and I’m totally cool.
But I have no idea what to expect from Tee other than a good recruiter who will energize the base a bit and memories of ’98
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
By most accounts from people at UK
Tee is a really good coach. He’s also an excellent recruiter, a tireless recruiter.
There’s no doubt he’d come home in a second. He yearns to come back.
Nobody would work harder for UT.
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all things I like to hear
the recruiting and the energy I expected. Just didn’t know about the actual coaching because he’s never been at a school with an offense with a pulse. New Mexico and Kentucky?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Can I speak freely from a highly opinionated point of view about one of our coaches?
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go for it
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I'm worried about LT
And it stems from something I was told prior to this season about Dooley not “allowing him to play the game” the way he was allowed to play the game at Alabama.
The definition of “play the game” in recruiting is pretty simple reading between the lines.
I hope we bump him in title and give him a raise to stick around. But I don’t want him cheating. And I don’t think it’ll be tolerated.
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definitely agree on what we don't want
and that I want him sticking around. but if he takes the HC job at UAB, good for him. Long as we keep Sirmon and Wilcox on D
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I would agree with this.
I much prefer Sirmon and Wilcox over Thompson but would like to keep all three and not cheat. Period.
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Absolutely
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NO SIR YOU CANNOT
HOW DARE YOU
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by Chris Pendley on Dec 1, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Exceptionally intelligent guy...
total yes sir/no sir attitude.
Idolizes Cutcliffe as an offensive role model.
I just cried tears of joy.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 1, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Chaney working OL and OC
seems like way too much responsibility for one person, unless he can be two places at once, or unless he goes completely hands off with ever other position on offense, which I think he’ll be unwilling to do.
Hiestand needs to go, but the OL might be better off with Hiestand than a OC who can’t spend every minute coaching them up, because Lord knows they need every minute.
Maybe not,
Chaney currently does OC and RB’s
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I'm just gonna speak freely and ya'll are gonna have to trust I'm not BSing
But Chaney spends most of his time during practice with the QBs. When someone told me he was technically the RB coach too, I was surprised because he spends next to no time with the RBs individually. Hiestand spends every waking minute trying to coach the OL up, and he still can’t get a decent run game out of them, so I’m not exactly sold on Chaney pulling double duty with OL/OC.
I don't just trust you
I know it’s true.
Hinshaw is a recruiter alone right now and the guy who signals in plays from the sideline.
We need to put him on WRs and hire somebody who knows/has been a QB. And let Chaney coach OL.
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Would be completely behind this.
I just don’t know if Chaney could commit to letting the QBs be coached his offense by someone else, but I guess he might have to if he wants to keep his job.
He's always going to tutor QBs
They’re going to have his characteristics. But there’s nothing wrong with somebody else teaching them mechanics and nuances.
Just let Chaney pick which type of quarterback he wants. Worley looks like he’s going to be good. So does Peterman.
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It'll be interesting to see
Maybe Chaney working with the OL will bring a better level of communication between the QB and OL, since everyone was convinced at one point that Matt Simms was better than Bray at checking into runs and whatnot.
Point of clarification, Hinshaw was a QB at college level
I’d guess that they’d look for a GA that could assist with the Oline if this went down.
it's not like an OC coaching OL in unheard of
remember Phil? and if he’s spending too much time with QBs, maybe a new QB coach will help
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying it can't be done
I just hesitate because I’m not sure how appealing that is to a guy like Chaney who prides himself on shaping and tutoring his quarterbacks. I guess we’ll see how it falls into place over the next few months.
Nothing’s been announced about Hiestand, right? It seems like a foregone conclusion at this point, given what SpringBok is saying.
More from OCI
“Charlie is a really good guy. His stay at UT was always understood to be a relatively short one. Dooley has his replacement in place.”
Now that doesn’t sound so dramatic.
It's more fun to view it as the end of the world tbh.
Internet meltdowns can be fun to watch sometimes even if it’s your own fanbase. Not talking about this site obviously……
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BAGGETT JUST USED TENNESSEE AS A STEPPING STONE
WE NEED COACHES WHO LOVE THE ORANGE AND SEE TENNESSEE AS A DESTINATION NOT AS A FOOTSTOOL
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
IF WE HIRE SOMEONE WHO ISN'T READY TO RETIRE HERE THEN WHY ARE WE HIRING THEM
WE DON’T NEED THOSE COACHES WHO LEAVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT I MEAN LOOK AT U$C AND HOW THEY’RE DOING UNDER KIFFIN!!!!!11ONEUNOELEVENTY
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by Chris Pendley on Dec 1, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
They're not even going to a bowl game.
Lol.
______________________________________________
Boom. Here comes the Boom. Braydy or not. Here comes the boy from the West.
QUIT FREAKING OUT AND JUMPING TO ABSURD CONCLUSIONS
IF YOU GUYS DONT STOP THEN EVERY RECRUIT MIGHT DECOMMITT!!!!!!
IF WE'RE NOT BRINGING IN FIVE-STAR RECRUITS WHO CARES IF THEY DECOMMIT
ALL FIVE-STARS ALL THE TIME I LIKE MY FOOTBALL TEAM LIKE I LIKE MY HOTELS
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by Chris Pendley on Dec 1, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
EVEN IF ALL WE GOT WERE FIVE-STARS
DOOLEY COULD NEVER WIN WITH THEM. WE NEED TO BREAK OPEN THE CHECKBOOK AND OFFER SATAN $10MILLION A YEAR.
on the subject of rumors:
I liked this summary of what to find on VolNation
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 2:20 PM EST reply actions
Well, Brad and Will were both on there once apiece, but VolNation's been on there a few times.
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by Chris Pendley on Dec 1, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think mine was after the LSU game last year
unless there’s another I don’t know about. Punishment fit the crime.
It was after South Carolina this year.
The “go as Charlie Brown” line. Then again, the only thing Brian Cook said about it was to hide razors, sharp objects, and belts from the lot of us just to be safe.
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by Chris Pendley on Dec 1, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I just decided at the beginning of the season that this was rebuild year and refused to meltdown
Doesn’t mean I wasn’t disappointed in the season and a couple of games in particular, but this just wasn’t the year to get to wrapped up in.
As Johnny would say, ‘just didn’t have enough good/experienced Jimmy’s and Joe’s regardless of the X’s and O’s’
I’ll have a different expectation for next year.
Let's....
talk about basketball!!!!!
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FIRE CUONZO RIGHT NOW IF HE CAN'T BEAT OAKLAND HE'LL NEVER WIN IN THE SEC
IMMA HANG UP AND LISTEN CLLLLLAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
BAKSETBALLS?
WHAT A SISSY SPORT, THE GENAREL NEVAR NEEDED A GOOD BAKSETBALL TEAM AND HE DID JUST FINE.
Way too much speculation
and not enough facts to appropriately judge the reasons behind this departure.
Just looking at things on the surface, it appears to be a negative thing. However, in the end, if we get Larry Porter it might be a net gain for us. Time will tell
and Tee...Tee baby, Tee
Hopefully Tee would be a better fit and more ready for D1 coaching than Chuck was. I love the idea of having a VFL on the staff, particularly the NCS winning QB.
I'm not sold on Tee as a coach
but he seems to be a decent recruiter, and his history with UT has to count for something. So he might be a good hire. Not sure that he would be the BEST hire, but that’s purely speculation.
I’m not sure it’s completely fair to get rid of Harry Hiestand. He had a great track record at Illinois, and the line wasn’t totally to blame for the running game this year. Our running backs weren’t very good – especially Poole. I think next year he will have had enough time to work with this group to get a good assessment.
Here's what I've gathered about HH, don't know how true any of it is
- Not a good recruiter, in fact screwed up on recruit last year
- Not a good fit with what Chaney is trying to do. Has been suggested that Chaney didn’t trust him in the run game and we’ll see a much different run scheme with him gone
- Not a great teacher
Again, I can’t personally vouch for any of these, just passing on from credible sources
Illinois rushing under Heistand...
2004 = 68th at 153.4ypg
2003 = 101st at 100.6ypg
2002 = 46th at 164ypg
2001 = 62nd at 150.27ypg
2000 = 39th at 162.3ypg
1999 = 42nd at 159.7ypg
1998 = 85th at 141.3ypg
1997 = ????
Not really impressed, particularly if he actually had the ten trillion NFL quality lineman his bio claims.
the running game isn't just about the lineman
what matters more is the kids he got to the NFL. So when I hear that he wasn’t a good recruiter, it baffles me. I just don’t get it. Anyway, I think he should another year.
I think Tee can effectively serve as our safety net
because he will almost certainly say yes if we ask. So we should do no worse than him.
As a replacement for WR coach
go after Charlie Williams from UNC: http://www.tarheelblue.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/williams_charlie00.html
What this guy all about?
I don’t know much about him.
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not yet
I have a point on WVU, but my heart is with USF, as it means either Cincy (woo! quality win!) or Louisville (trollface.jpg) wins the Big East.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
I settled on 4 for WVU.
Very nearly switched to USF at the last minute because Big East, but declined. Because Big East.
You think like I think!
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
I doubt it
Because I think we could all say that.
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I don't care about quality losses anymore
but if Cincy could make the BCS and pull an upset, that’d make everybody feel a whole lot better about that as something to give us hope coming into next year
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
That's true.
At least let me have a chance of listening to local radio sometime within the next 16 months.
if Cincy could make the BCS and pull an upset
Bwahahahaha.
::takes breath::
Bwahahahahahahahahaahaha.
::totally out of breath::
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Dec 2, 2011 5:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
don't laugh too hard
they’d be playing Virginia Tech
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 2, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
that said, they're out now
mostly because they’ve played the last three weeks with a backup QB. they can still tie for the title, but they won’t win a tiebreaker because the computers like WVU
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 2, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
I THINK I KNOW WHERE CHARLIE BAGGETT IS!
HE’S ALREADY STARTED CONSULTING AT SOUTH FLORIDA! IMMA HANG UP AND LISTEN CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
So anybody have any idea whether A&M gets to Sumlin before ASU does?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 9:51 PM EST reply actions
Sure, I have an idea
I have no clue what that’s worth
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haha, okay fair enough
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
I hadn't even heard that A&M was trying for him.
I guess it’s a matter of Sumlin’s preference, then. A&M has more resources.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
ever since Sherman came out a couple hours ago
my twitter feed has been blowing up with “so Sumlin to A&M now, right”
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
it is pretty close to Houston
speaking of twitter, it’s saying Carl Pelini is expected to take the FAU HC job
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Learn something every day
I thought it was just close by Texas standards…but it’s actually close! Less than 2 hours driving.
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yeah, my cousin drove to the game last week
and I made the same discovery
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think he'd have an easier time of it in ASU.
But if you’re used to Texas recruiting, perhaps that makes a difference.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
You'd have to think you could hold onto the "Woo, SEC!" recruits
Other than that, I just don’t know enough about Sumlin or what he’s done to hypothesize on his prospects for success.
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
The sheer lack of anything resembling defense in his tenure would scare me to death
if I were an A&M fan. Especially knowing you’re in the same division as LSU and Alabama.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
But look at Arkansas!
Petrino’s an offensive genius and they had great* success against LSU and Alabama this year!
*no success (bwahahahahahahahahaha)
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I have to admit
Arkansas vs. Sumlin would be fun. If it lived up to billing, it’d be a basketball score.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
like Tennessee/Arkansas should've been this year
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
One thing that's been pretty consistent with any school searching for a new head coach
is that they almost always find somebody who’s the opposite of the previous guy. Fire Fulmer? Hire Kiffin. Kiffin bolts? Hire Dooley. Spurrier —> Zook. Zook —> Meyer. Weis —> Kelly. Etc.
That seems to hold pretty well whenever the previous guy leaves under unfavorable circumstances. So if Sherman’s departure is under bad times (yes), then Sumlin would indeed be a polar opposite. Of course, he’s the opposite of Dennis Erickson, so it doesn’t help much here.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Craig James: I think South Florida will do 1 of 2 things
Win or lose. Bold statement, Craig.
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I know
I might’ve made a Keanu Reeves face
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just glad it was Rece and not Craig.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
me too
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Jiu jitsu?
I’m going to learn…jiu jitsu?
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BOOM!
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:26 PM EST reply actions
wow, way to stay on your feet there, dude
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:30 PM EST reply actions
isn't it well known that their bull has a taste for beef?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I'm silly and naive
Until going to a bullfight, I had no idea how unfair they were.
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flagged
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:34 PM EST reply actions
waste a timeout and then get a field goal
Big East is Big East
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:38 PM EST reply actions
That playcall was awesome
Great use of a timeout, USF!
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it really is true in general
Syracuse and UConn are pretty bad this year, but their basement is typically way way way better than most league’s basements. ’Cuse is in last and beat Wake Forest (5-3 in ACC). USF is 2nd to last and beat Notre Dame.
But the other side of the coin is that there aren’t any really good teams either.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
It's true
but that’s the kindest possible way you could describe the Big East this season. Hence ‘spin’ and not ‘lie’.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Al Golden had the U by their crown jewels.
If he had left, nobody would have taken that job. Miami had no choice but to sign over half their endowment to him.
I'm still curious to see how that whole thing goes down
It FEELS like the NCAA should leave a smoking crater, though I bet that these things happen with disturbing frequency across the country (though perhaps not to the stripper fiasco extreme).
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Are you referring...
…to that thing that rhymes with schmuschmortion?
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Dec 2, 2011 6:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
on an unrelated note
Skip and Holgo are on Tennessee’s shortlist if Dooley gets fired
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Skip Holtz = Do Not Want
They have to be up there for most disappointing team. Started 4-0, have gone 1-6 since then.
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I was being facetious
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
I love Holgo
If only for that sweet haircut, I’d still take him.
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Dec 2, 2011 6:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's ok. It's not like we saved our timeouts anyhow.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
it is thought that they would fit the culture
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
don't put so much air under that and you have a touchdown
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 10:55 PM EST reply actions
USF will kick a field goal
get the ball kick a field goal, get the ball, kick a field goal, and win 22-20
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:00 PM EST reply actions
or just score here
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Since I was deprived so many times via MACtion
I’m holding out hope for some BEastly overtime here.
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
I just want USF to win
and then I want Cincy to take down UConn and Tech
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Rece just tried hard to jinx USF
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:02 PM EST reply actions
TOUCHDOWN BULLS!!!!!
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:06 PM EST reply actions
Oops
A screen too many.
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Eric Gordon of the Day Award goes to Jacques Jenkins
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:06 PM EST reply actions
okay, Skip is being smart here
take the penalty instead of using the timeout. that’s one thing that Dooley hasn’t picked up yet
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:07 PM EST reply actions
I get why Dooley uses the timeouts,
but sometimes the best teaching tool is to let them fail.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
there are just some instances were it really doesn't matter
at your own 1, take the friggin’ delay. It’s 6 inches. Same when you’re at midfield and in punt formation.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Dana going for it on 4th at his own 33? fun times
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:13 PM EST reply actions
got it
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
personal foul hands to the face on 3rd and 16
BIGEASTLOLOLOLO
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:17 PM EST reply actions
and we're tied*
*assuming XP
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:20 PM EST reply actions
Oh, hi, touchdown!
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
nice return
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:24 PM EST reply actions
flip to ESPN2 now
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:24 PM EST reply actions
fire up the 3?
Bama/Gtown, 12 seconds, Bama by 1
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently a 10-0 run
Was down 9 with 2.5 minutes to go.
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Georgetown is dumb
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I was about to say the same thing
I don’t think that was much of a foul call, personally.
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
Let me just say
That I don’t want to live in a world where Alabama is good at all sports and we are good at none.
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
on the plus side
we stole their AD
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Lady Cavs
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
GEORGETOWN HITS A THREE
1.8 to go
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:28 PM EST reply actions
Bama got backboard and rim on the halfcourt heave
but no good
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:30 PM EST reply actions
saaaaaaaaaack
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:31 PM EST reply actions
is USF going to penalize themselves into a WVU score again?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:32 PM EST reply actions
Might as well.
It’s not like WVU wants to score, apparently.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
illegal substitution
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
reviewing it though
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
it'll stand
but WVU only has 13 seconds and no timeouts. they need a first down and spike or a throw to the sidelines
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
no, it doesn't stand
4th down WVU.
apparently you’re allowed to be leaving the field
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
WVU is going for it though
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
and they got it
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Hell of a catch
Tennessee fans roll their eyes when I talk about Vandy, Vandy fans become ill when I talk about Tennessee.
fantastic
and a real substitution infraction on USF
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure why Fedora is such a hot commodity
with losses to Marshall and UAB and not a lot more success than USM is used to
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:36 PM EST reply actions
I think WVU had only 10 guys on the field when they clocked it.
One guy looked a little uncertain, so he just ran off the field. Smart.
damn
Cincy knocked out of Big East contention. now I have to hope that Cincy loses and Louisville can troll in the Orange Bowl
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:40 PM EST reply actions
I guess the unranked dream is still possible then.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
yep
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Now I'm really torn on how to cheer in that game.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
If it weren't UConn, it'd be easy going against Cincy
since their BCS dream is dead and because we still beat a Cincy team that was 7-1 before their starting QB (who was kinda awesome) tore his ACL.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yup.
Louisville going unranked to the BCS would be sweet trolling fodder for Kentucky, but UConn.
by David Hooper on Dec 1, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
If both WVU and Cincy had lost this weekend
Lousville would have gone to a BCS game as an unranked team.
Louisville has the tiebreaker over WVU if it's only two teams (they won head-to-head)
but in a three-way tie, you have a circular beatpath, so it goes to BCS standings
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 1, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
I've watched more Big East FB than I care to admit this year
And, at this point, Louisville is definitely the best team in the conference.
No homer.
by kidbourbon on Dec 2, 2011 6:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
eh...
WVU is 9-3, and has a lot of talent… I’m more of the opinion that WVU is just sorta schizo, and Louisville is more consistent. However, when WVU plays well they seem to have a higher ceiling than Louisville.
WVU’s best guys at all the skill positions are significantly better than what Louisville has right now… but UL does have a slight edge on defense.
Let me put it this way...
I think Geno Smith and company would have a punchers chance against any team in the BCS, excepting Alabama and LSU… I’m not sure Louisville does. I’m sure some of that is based on WVU being the only Big East team to actually get some decent scalps in recent years, but they do seem to consistently have better overall talent than the rest of the conference.
agree
when Cincy was fully intact, it would’ve gone to them (and they did beat Louisville by two scores). But right now, it’s very clearly Da Ville
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 2, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
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