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Tennessee Lady Vols @ Stanford Cardinal, 10 PM EST Live Game Thread

Lady Vols Logo
December 20, 2011
Maples Pavilion, Palo Alto, CA
10:00 PM EST

TV: CSN
Internet Audio: Lady Vols Network
Live Stats: GameTracker
Stanford Logo

7-2
#6 (AP)
#6 (USA Today)

7-1
#4 (AP)
#4 (USA Today)

The matchup of the night features the best running rivalry in women's college basketball, as Stanford hosts Tennessee for the 22nd consecutive year of regular season games. (Trivia: these teams have never had a running contract; they just keep calling each other up and making it work.)

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Position Name Experience Height PPG RPG APG
lady vols logo G Meighan Simmons So 5-10 10.1 2.9 1.8
F Glory Johnson Sr 6-2 13.2 8.6 1.2
C Vicki Baugh Sr 6-4 9.5 6.8 2.0
G-F Shekinna Stricklen Sr 6-2 16.2 7.9 1.6
F Taber Spani Jr 6-1 12.2 3.6 2.1
Stanford Logo F Nnemkadi Ogwumike Sr 6-2 24.0 11.0 0.5
F Chiney Ogwumike So 6-3 14.9 10.6 1.1
G Toni Kokenkis So 5-11 7.9 2.7 3.4
G Lindy La Rocque Sr 5-8 5.7 1.2 3.3
F Taylor Greenfield Fr 6-3 4.6 3.1 1.9

Just the condensed version: Stanford runs everything through the Sisters, to the tune of nearly half their scoring and rebounds. Outside the Ogwumikes, the team is still searching for go-to options on offense and on the boards, but those two will be quite the handful on their own as they'll be the most physical and talented interior duo that Tennessee has faced all year. If Baugh and Johnson don't have their heads on straight for this one, it'll be a long night.

The biggest question is how Tennessee's long road stretch affects them, if at all. This is the last and toughest game in a trek spanning both coasts and a stop in Knoxville barely long enough to refuel the plane. With the UCLA game still in the rear view mirror, this will be a great precursor to test Tennessee's playoff focus: come out sharp, and there's reason to believe, even with a loss. Come out sloppy, and we'll have to hope for a massive turnaround during conference play.

Prediction: 83 - 77 Tennessee (but it might take overtime)

BassWatch™: DNP; CD

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My hope is that the refs will allow the game to flow inside.

That would mean good things for Glory and Baugh. The other potential good: Stricklen assuming control, and Simmons easing out.

But – and I feel kind of weird saying this – this game was made for Alicia Manning. The Ladies don’t win without her; she’ll get 25 minutes, and we’ll bear witness to a 76-71 win. Then again, the last time I called something like this I wasn’t even close. Erm.

Any luck finding a stream?

by Chris Pendley on Dec 20, 2011 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

nothing at firstrow

do you know about other spots?

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Not yet.

Trying to find CSN live streams at places like Justin, but no luck.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Worth a shot if you want to try.

I do have radio, a la Mickey, so I’m ok otherwise.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

My video sucks.

Skype name is the same as my old name if you want to try that, though.

by Chris Pendley on Dec 20, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe give it a crack at halftime or so?

No sense in messing with it this close to tipoff.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think it's doing some weird auto-effect.

I haven’t played around with the camera on this machine yet. One thing I don’t know how to get around: contrast issues when I point the laptop at the TV.

by Chris Pendley on Dec 20, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm clueless there.

Again, only if you want to try it out. I’m good with radio.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

While we're waiting for this one

College of Charleston @ #4 Louisville on ESPNU. Midway through the first half, Louisville’s pressure is getting to Charleston a bit

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

except they're now in the lead

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

37-33 Cougs at the half

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

got it

woo!

I have Fox Sports Carolinas, so I guess they run the standard Fox Sports South programming when there’s no Canes game

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

And we're off

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

Meighan in & out - not shy as usual

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

$hekinna

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

3kinna!

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

$pani!

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

$pani

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

our orange just looks florescent tonight

something new, or just contrast off a lighter floor?

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

(or weird video)

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

8-3 Vols

good start

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

Boom - Meighan

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

Glory bein' Jeronne

10-3

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

Glory with the finish

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

commercial flippies

Louisville just scored to cut the CofC lead to 6 (ESPNU)

bowl on ESPN

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

46-40 Cougs at the under 16

Ville ball

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Simmons to the line

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

never mind

Baugh with a moving screen first

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Manning in at the under-16.

Good play to save the board / cause the breakout there.

by Chris Pendley on Dec 20, 2011 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

Take that shot Alicia

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

Great hustle Kinna

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

I thought it was just mine

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of digitizing

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

four straight by Stanford

16-11

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

now 6-0

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

aaaaaand tie game

damn

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

BULL

she was inside the circle

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

Stanford takes the lead

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

3 tries and no O rebound

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

Alicia

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

I put some of the postgame quotes in the recap post

but listening to the players after the game, I do really like the way it sounds like Cuonzo is handling them. Tatum immediately starts talking about how Cuonzo told him how much confidence he had in him this week, Cuonzo talks about Maymon becoming more of a leader and then Maymon says leaderish things in the postgame, etc. I like that.

by Will Shelton on Dec 20, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

?pani

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

OT:

Reggie Hamilton doesn’t just go off on us. Scored 31 points in an 85-73 loss in Tuscon tonight

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

and Louisville has come back and taken a lead on CofC

53-53 with eight to play

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

now 55-53 CofC

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I really wish they'd given it to del Toro as was rumored

but that does look pretty kickass

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Del Toro was attached to it throughout pre-production

But the numerous delays started interfering with other commitments of his, so he had to bow out.

by danmarcel on Dec 20, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

so this is a 29-13 stretch here by Stanford?

like they’re the men or something

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

be stronger, Taber

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

Manning throws a bomb?

there are no s’s in her name

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

3Manning

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

Burdick got schooled on that Nneka bucket

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

She's good.

Like, rill good. I’d put her down as more talented that Griner, if only because she doesn’t have the benefit of being able to drive a convertible with the top up or down.

by Chris Pendley on Dec 20, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: CofC leads by one at the under four

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

and this is setting up nicely to have the final stretch occur at halftime

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't expect to say this, but:

the D hasn’t been half bad for Stanford being on 40 points. They’ve gotten a few late shots up and out.

by Chris Pendley on Dec 20, 2011 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

Simmons can be really impressive when under control

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

seriously, don't give up that shot

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

been learning from the men evidently

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

TO THE U!!!!!

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

wow

CofC just broke a press after a whole lot of work, had an open layup inside, missed it, and Louisville hit a transition three. Cards now lead by 4. ugh

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

then missed another layup and Louisville hit another transition three

that might’ve been the dagger

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Cougs hanging around

have the ball down four, 63 seconds

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

lost the ball driving the lane

Ville at the line

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

get the ball game

and Wideman misses his 2nd straight layup. missed opportunities here for Charleston

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Louisville's winning margin does not come close to representing that game

Charleston is good

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

and we had how big a lead on them before we stopped playing?

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

oh what could've been

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

OT:

I just realized the crew working the FIU-Marshall game are the same crackerjack crew we had for UGA.

by Chris Pendley on Dec 20, 2011 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

I think Marshall just blocked a punt and then intentionally fumbled into the end zone, recovering for a TD

I’m pretty sure that’s illegal, and there is indeed a flag

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

FIU -4.5 hypothetical not looking good

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

illegal forward pass, 5 yards from the spot

plus unnecessary roughness, 15 yards. go from touchdown to 30 yards out

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

and then Marshall fumbles on the next play

but they somehow miraculously recover

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Simmons with three free throws

cool, cool

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

JP Prince sighting!

Oh, wait, that was someone else fouling on a 3.

by Chris Pendley on Dec 20, 2011 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

and they still scored

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

ugh. that was a bad three possessions

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

This game has been way more fun than any LV game this year.

One of the best played that I’ve seen, too. Hoop, is this better or worse than the first half against Baylor?

by Chris Pendley on Dec 20, 2011 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

I wish I knew.

It’s really hard to tell by the audio. The stats I most feared are not panning out: mostly the rebounds. Tennessee cannot hope to win a tournament when allowing this kind of rebounding, especially against a team like Stanford.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I know.

And without Baugh in for so much time, there just wasn’t any real help available. Baugh has some holes in her post game, but there’s nobody else ready to replace her yet.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That's basically how the game was expected to be played.

I didn’t have a good vibe about things before it started.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure who else can slow her down, for whatever that's worth.

My comparison library of posts more athletic than Glory is very, very slim. I understand she’s playing out of her mind (35/20 wouldn’t even surprise me), but still.

by Chris Pendley on Dec 20, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

So Jarnell Stokes is announcing Thursday?

he has to be the single most important basketball recruit we’ve had in decades. Sign him, and we might actually be pretty good after January and get some recruiting momentum… someone else signs him and we may end up with Auburn level talent in the near future.

Stokes could easily be the determinant in whether or not Cuonzo Martin has success at UT or gets run out of town in a few seasons. 6:30 PM ET Thursday.

by Caban on Dec 20, 2011 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

or his committment could have absolutely zero effect...

due to any number of potential pitfalls, but I prefer my version of the story.

Who was that 5 star who we stole from Mississippi State that never played?

by Caban on Dec 20, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he's playing in Europe now

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if they don't work him in in January

just landing him should make everyone feel really good about Cuonzo

by Will Shelton on Dec 20, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He'd definitely be the first recruit...

that had Tennessee fans sitting up and taking notice.

by Caban on Dec 20, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

6:30 PM CT, rather

I really hope we’re smart enough not to run Cuonzo out of town after a couple years with no talent if he gets momentum rolling in the 2013 or 2014 classes. But everybody would feel a lot better if we could land this one

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

watching his highlight videos...

man, he owns the paint. Puts nearly all of his shots off the glass too, which I love to see.

If his highlights paint an accurate picture of his skills, he could be a 20ppg guy.

by Caban on Dec 20, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

you weren't kidding when you said he could be the most important recruit in decades

probably even more important than the one whose father we hired just to get him. of course, if he announces for somewhere else, we’ll all try to downplay this

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

(and rightfully so, as Cuonzo can still succeed without Stokes)

but this one would be HUUUUUUGE for perception. and he needs some positives right now, because we have way too many people who are more interested in getting Pearl back than wanting Cuonzo to succeed

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Allan Houston...

important for all the wrong reasons.

How bad did Wade Houston have to be to tank with a guy who could go head to head with anyone in UT history except Bernard King.

by Caban on Dec 20, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Parrish just updated his story on Stokes

clarifying an NCAA rule that I’ve been wondering about for a long time.

If you’re not on an athletic scholarship, you can accept academic money, as long as it’s widely available for everyone (with uniform standards). BUT, if you’ve been on an official visit, you’re considered a recruited walk-on and are required to redshirt your first year.

Why is that important? Memphis has no scholarship available. Stokes redshirts if he goes there. Whereas Cuonzo Martin and Billy Donovan are promising immediately playing time

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Glory

yeah, I can just do that myself, why?

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

Marshall just went for a 4th and 5 with 30 seconds left

threw a touchdown pass, lead 20-10. I had 30+ on that in FOP. And I’m 0-4. Oooooooouuuuuch

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

and that's one I changed at the last minute...

read too much into ULL’s performance and the Sun Belt improving.

Oops.

by Caban on Dec 20, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I was buying on the Sun Belt

and selling on Marshall after their last three games:

59-17 loss to Tulsa
23-22 win over Memphis
34-27 win over ECU (OT)

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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 20, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Tennessee is 13-19 on free throws.

Stanford, including that last one, is 6-6. Free throws are actually helping keep things close.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

Has Manning been in this half until now?

she hits 9 points in the first playing a great game on D
and is a no show in the 2nd until now?

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

I don't get it

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep - too late now

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I really hate "blocking fouls"

in so many ways they’re almost always judgement calls.

by falconnuke on Dec 20, 2011 11:45 PM EST reply actions  

I fear we don't have a final four team yet

the team has a lot of work to do as well as this coaching staff getting their act together

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by aurabass on Dec 20, 2011 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

I tend to agree with you.

I’m not sure we learned too much tonight, though; we knew this team wasn’t going to make it without Ariel. Apparently All-American posts can dominate the Ladies, which we probably should’ve known.

by Chris Pendley on Dec 20, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't comment on this game,

but rebounding has been spotty all year long, and I know that’s something the coaches have been preaching. Some games, Tennessee gets it, but it’s usually when they already outclass their opponents in the interior. On equal footing, they suffer.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Stanford exposed everything I most feared about Tennessee tonight:

+ Allows too many offensive boards to teams that are their equal in size (even factoring for Neka’s talent).

+ Quick fouls by Baugh screws up the interior rotation in the first half.

+ Meh free throw shooting percentages.

+ Deficiencies in ball control. Just enough to lag a good opponent.

It’s a ridiculously talented team and every team has their issues, but the problems they do have can be very big problems.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

But Baugh plays too much like a guard.

Had she been healthy the last three years, it’d be a different story.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Stanford has a higher FG% than Tennessee now.

Considering in the first half, it was about 60% – 40% for most of the half, that’s saying something.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

A/TO:

10/13 for UT

20/9 for Stanford.

Ouch.

by David Hooper on Dec 20, 2011 11:54 PM EST reply actions  

All right, everyone.

Hit the showers, get a good night’s sleep, and we’ll figure out what the heck to do with this in the morning.

by Chris Pendley on Dec 20, 2011 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

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