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RTT Podcast Tonight at 9:00 ET with Special Guest Wes Rucker

This week, we'll be joined by Wes Rucker to have a final look at the 2011 Tennessee Volunteer football team. We may talk some basketball and whatever else pops into our minds, too.

If you're listening live tonight at 9:00 PM Eastern, follow along in the comments below with your questions and thoughts. Here's the pertinent info:

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I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

Guess my work network was shutting it down

I’m good now.

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, Rucker

Like you’ve really got something better to be doing.

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

That's just how he rolls

#selfimportant

Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.

Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!

by Brad Shepard on Dec 4, 2011 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

Wes Rucker?

Never heard of him…is he related to @WesRuckersBeard?

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

They're close.

Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.

Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!

by Brad Shepard on Dec 4, 2011 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

That's disappointing

I want to believe in Da’Rick because he’s really talented…but I don’t have a lot of patience for that kind of attitude.

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

It's really disappointing

to hear that Da’Rick is so much like Will.

Chief Editor, Rocky Top Talk. Chief in Charge of Woo, Gameday Depot.

by Joel Hollingsworth on Dec 4, 2011 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

He's exactly like Will.

Always thinking of himself.

Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.

Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!

by Brad Shepard on Dec 4, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

;-)

;-)
;-)
;-)
;-)
;-)
;-)

Although, I do remember something about Will being a bad roommate to his MDiv buddies in Lexington. (Get out! I’m talking on a podcast!)

Chief Editor, Rocky Top Talk. Chief in Charge of Woo, Gameday Depot.

by Joel Hollingsworth on Dec 4, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

So that would make him...

The Future Future? Future^2?

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

But whether or not we have a good RB, the O-line is what it is.

Is it a good O-line with sub-SEC RBs, or is it a bad (run-blocking) O-line with sub-SEC RBs?

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

Certainly need to get much, much stronger

IMO

Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.

Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!

by Brad Shepard on Dec 4, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll say...

the run blocking looked a lot better, to me, than the performance would indicate.

Every one of our TBs was pretty bad about completely missing holes and going down easily.

by Caban on Dec 4, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

So what you're saying is

That a bunch of 19-year old kids need to grow up? My mind…it is blown.

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

We could start by treating them as the legal adults they are and letting them succeed or fail on their own merits.

But that’s really an argument I have with college in general. Biggest day care system in the country.

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

heh...

Given how high schools are these days with everyone and their brother getting handed 4.0 GPAs while someone holds their hand, I think just releasing these kids with no safety net is a recipe for a 15% graduation rate.

College is a place to learn how to be an adult, can’t expect a freshman away from home for the first time not to screw up some.

by Caban on Dec 4, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I know. Colleges can only work with what they're given.

But even then, colleges almost universally screw it up. The only thing in their favor is that most college kids have no clue just how much colleges treat them like children.

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

UTK did everything in its power to be incompetent with me...

they actually removed me from the system twice, screwed me out of housing and cost me about 2 grand each time.

by Caban on Dec 4, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Not surprised.

UT is an admin monster. Not that anyplace else is different. But an admin monster nonetheless.

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually...

I fully believe most high school grads should take a few years to live on their own and get used to being responsible before going to college. Assuming the kids are actually responsible enough to go back.

by Caban on Dec 4, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

And many college students should give serious consideration to trade school. I hate the bias we have against trades, for one, but how many people would prefer 2 years of welding classes and starting at 80k rather than 4 years of a much more expensive college experience and maybe 50k start?

But I’m going waaaaaay off topic here.

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hard to convince parents...

that their “special little angel” isn’t college material.

I once sat through a freshman calculus class where one of the students didn’t know what =/= meant. And that’s not even close to the worst example.

by Caban on Dec 4, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

One nice thing about math-y classes is if you can't solve the problems, you can't hide it.

Not all humanities are that way, but I certainly don’t envy their task with that, especially for kids with helicopter parents who, by the way, are major donors. What a mess.

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I did student tutoring for a while at UT for Math

I feel your pain somewhat.

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I love teaching,

but sometimes the hardest part is getting a kid to accept that they’re not where they think they are. Much easier to fix after that happens.

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I envy you...

I would absolutely love to teach at a University. I just always loved the environment in academia.

by Caban on Dec 4, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a lot of fun.

Most of my experience is via the Navy rather than college, but this semester’s class has been illuminating. Probably not going to do it again for a while, but at least I can say I did it.

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually debating between...

the Air Force reserves in Knoxville and active duty Navy.

Great way to pay the bills, but I am curious as to what opportunities there are in the Navy for journalism grads. The whole point of me joining the Navy is because ships and the ocean are awesome… would not want to be a desk jockey.

by Caban on Dec 4, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Just herd the dumb donor kids...

into a football major. I know Middle Tennessee State has a “University Studies” major which has literally zero requirements other than total hours. It’s used to push kids out the door.

by Caban on Dec 4, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

That's how Universities pay the bills.

Take their student loan money for 4-6 years and leave them to foot the bill once they walk away.

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

JIMMYS AND JOES

FULMER QUOTE!

Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.

Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!

by Brad Shepard on Dec 4, 2011 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

Collaros had a broken ankle, I think

I saw he had surgery…couldn’t find whether he’ll be back or not.

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

At the time of the injury

The coach said he could be back for a bowl game.

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

PAWWWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

CLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks.

Realized I hadn’t changed mine since my 2008 birth to the site.

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I like yours.

It’s synonymous with the Hoop.

Also, it was weird seeing my face 100ish times during a live-thread.

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly.

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be AWESOME!

I think I’m asking for a Rock Island for Xmas. Thoughts?

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

oui.

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Would be pretty sweet.

I’m trying really hard to think of something other than a 10/22 myself. I miss rifles.

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

GI or Match?

Also, nickel plated? Blued? Other details?

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

GI Nickel plated

Nothing crazy…Yet.

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Gateway...

Plus I have to fight my X chromosome’s want to accessorize.

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

That's not the X chromosome.

Believe me, guys want to accessorize guns too.

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

We've all got at least one X chromosome

Just sayin’…

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

ha.

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Does mine go with me...

irrevocably yet?

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Dec 5, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

association is there in my head

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 5, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, well the door was associated with the Snail

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 5, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

The door will probably make a few comebacks.

Wouldn’t want to see it slam shut never to open again, after all.

by Chris Pendley on Dec 5, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Mine too.

And yours is cementing as well.

by David Hooper on Dec 5, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Oscar the Grouch rejects your lid.

He loves the garbage.

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

OHHHHHHH nomnomnomnomnom

Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.

Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!

by Brad Shepard on Dec 4, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

These GIFs are tricky

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

Apparently so are replies

D’oh…

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

:o)

Ommmnommmnommm

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by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I found Oscar!


GIFSoup

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Hooray!

Thank you!

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by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

/endrant

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

Bray absolutely cares...

someone who doesn’t care would not be capable of running a Chaney offense.

by Caban on Dec 4, 2011 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

Mental fortitude

Does he have it?

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

I think he's pliable.

When Hunter was his primary influence, he was fine. With Rogers, he seemed to become more Rogers-ish over time.

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Which perhaps suggests he's not a natural leader?

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Or just not mature enough yet.

I saw a massive increase in maturity in my son around the are of 20 – 21. He was always a “good kid”, but tended to subtlety follow rather than lead. While he’s still not super leadership material, as he matured he became much more likely to put his own spin on things, rather than copy someone else.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Dec 5, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely agree.

Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.

Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!

by Brad Shepard on Dec 4, 2011 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

KEEP IT THERE!!!

We need something to hold on to.

Seems like a million years ago.

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

I have to ask

Did his basketball playing suggest face stomping?

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

No, but, there was a lot of this

(Phone rings)

Haynesworth: What’s up?….Voluntary workouts? Man, nah, I ain’t goin.

by Will Shelton on Dec 4, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Voluntary workouts?

That’s a hell of an intramural basketball team…

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Just in case...

I’ll point out that the voluntary workouts were, in fact, for the football team and not our awesome basketball team that would’ve won it all if not for catastrophic injuries during the playoffs. That was the extent of my “journalistic” career while a student at UT: a month at the Beacon and eavesdropping on Haynesworth’s phone calls.

by Will Shelton on Dec 4, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

This makes more sense

I was envisioning you giving ol’ Albert a ring, but I had it all turned around.

Intramurals are a funny thing. I was once on a co-ed football team that advanced to, and won, the championship by virtue of winning one game: the championship game.

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 5, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

my junior year intramural soccer team was fun times

we lost to the two-time defending champs in the first game, falling behind 6-0 and losing 6-4. We ended up with two losses but made it back to the championship game. My school had a speaker series on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and every student was required to go to at least 17 in a semester. Well our opponents (the two-time defending champs) made an announcement about the intramural final and to come watch them, because “[they] are intramural soccer.” I went full-time sweeper that game, and we won 3-0.

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 5, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

MAYBE TYLER HAS EYE PROBLEMS....HE'S FROM CALIFORNIA!

#TeamDrawConclusions

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Peace up A town.

sweet. mother. of. breadsticks.

by RockyTopinKY on Dec 4, 2011 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

C'mon, Brad, you're not reactionary

Just step back from that ledge and let’s talk about this!

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

Haha, awesome.

Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.

Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!

by Brad Shepard on Dec 4, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

\SPLAT!

Holdin' it down on enemy grounds.

Anti-Snail on offense; Give me a slobberknocker, or give me death!

by Brad Shepard on Dec 4, 2011 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

Will, you played basketball, not NBA ball.

Two totally different sports. One’s a team sport. ;-)

by David Hooper on Dec 4, 2011 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

Jose Reyes...overrated

But I’m scared of the Marlins getting Pujols.

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

Did the Marlins....

just come into a huge stash of mob money or something?

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Dec 5, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

So, really, this is all your fault, Will

You had too much up, and now we’re having to suffer through the down. Thanks…

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

So, what happens if Bama wins ugly

And Okie State beats the bejesus out of Stanford. Can we have a 3-way national champion?

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

Do we still have other selectors out there?

Cuz BCS + AP only equals 2 :)

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 4, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

all sorts of wacky ones...

that random programs attempt to claim at the end of the year. It’s practically guaranteed someone will give OkState the title if they win their bowl.

by Caban on Dec 4, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like we've asked Imani Cross to look around

explains going after all these backs

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 5, 2011 8:42 AM EST reply actions  

there's a Rivals Georgia analyst who posts at VolNation

who said the more they saw of him this season, the worse he looked. Brad’s buddy seemed to confirm and hinted that this might not be the only one

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 5, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

on a related note, Mike Davis decommitted from Florida

he was in Knoxville this weekend

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 5, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

watching his videos...

the guy has good moves and speed, but phenomenal balance. He runs low to the ground and leans into the contact. Reminds me of Travis Stephens… which would obviously be just about the most important person the Vols could sign in terms of improving our prospects for the 2012 season.

by Caban on Dec 5, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

and...

this could potentially wreck Florida at tailback. The only guy left on their board is a 5-star back who is well below 50/50 to sign with UF.

by Caban on Dec 5, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

and a quote from Davis...

"I am just getting back from Tennessee…The players there are so positive. It’s a great affect being around those guys."

I only use this because of the “positive” comment. That definitely doesn’t jive with the sky is falling crowd.

by Caban on Dec 5, 2011 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

Granted it was from a Florida recruiting site

But in talking about Davis opening his recruitment, it didn’t list UT as being in the running despite the fact that he had just taken a “surprise” official visit.

I like Tennessee and Vanderbilt. There aren't many like me, and they're probably better off for it.

by VolnVA on Dec 5, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a firm believer...

in the idea that we can land absolutely anybody so long as we actually get them on campus. We are absolutely in his top 4.

by Caban on Dec 5, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

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