RTT Podcast Tonight At 9:00 ET With Michigan Blog Maize N Brew

by Joel Hollingsworth on Mar 15, 2011 4:00 PM EDT in Tennessee Volunteer Basketball

The RTT Podcast totally doesn't understand Daylight Savings time and switches to Tuesday this week in the confusion. So join us tonight at 9:00 PM Eastern as we'll be talking with Dave from SB Nation Michigan blog Maize n Brew.

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Wow, Will. Those were some crazy stats with their PG

MelGo, please, please, please play tight D on the perimeter.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:15 PM EDT reply actions

3-1-3 won't work against LSU

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:19 PM EDT reply actions

And Bone's our best defender. . .

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:24 PM EDT reply actions

Y'all, the season is a failure unless we beat Duke

We were obviously a Sweet Sixteen team.

If we beat Michigan and lose to Duke, it’s expected by this point, but it’s still an underachievement. Maybe an understandable one, given the NCAA mess, but an underachievement nonetheless.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:35 PM EDT reply actions

now, regarding your conversation about parlaying success into next year

I don’t think it’s relevant how good this season is, unless we win a title. Getting out of this summer and the NCAA mess feeling good about ourselves is all we need going into next year.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions

aaaand I guess Joel said this

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions

I feel like I have to agree with this

Rocky Top Talk

by Will Shelton on Mar 15, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I said about the Pitt game being an outlier earlier:

Goins, Tatum, and Hopson all averaged 2+ points per shot.

Our best games as a team were against Nova (9 seed) and Vandy (5 seed)

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:40 PM EDT reply actions

And, although beating Duke is a huge storyline that would make us all excited

I really, really, really hope our performance in this tournament does not affect the school’s decision-making process on how to handle Pearl and the NCAA. He’s proven his coaching is good enough to keep him if the problems aren’t severe and aren’t good enough to keep him if the NCAA tries to bring the hammer down. So just don’t pay attention to the tourney, Hammy.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:43 PM EDT reply actions

We got beat by a #7 in the second game: Wichita State

Seton Hall was the #10 that year.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:46 PM EDT reply actions

12-4, Will

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:48 PM EDT reply actions

ah, my bad.

never mind

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions

but listen to my comments on WSU

I try to give you the answers, but you need to listen to me. :-p

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Regarding the Wich St game

Loften was on the bench with 4 fouls for freaking ever, and Pearl didn’t stick him back in the game until they’d already been on their big run and taken a lead.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

I'm not trying to disagree that we hit the wall

Winthrop is evidence enough. But Loften being on the bench didn’t help.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions

maybe tired?

I remember being up 5 or so late, and thinking we had it…and then we just didn’t have any answers when it mattered. Pearl said later it was the first time all year we lost to a team less talented than we were.

Rocky Top Talk

by Will Shelton on Mar 15, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions

I do think that's right

I just remember being livid with Pearl (for the first time in his UT career) for leaving Loften on the bench so long.

But being generally tired explains the late season swoon, in addition to just a late game swoon.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions

box score says

up 5 with 5:43 to play. They tied it, Major Wingate scored to put us up 2 with 3:30 left, they tied it again at the under 4 at 3:02, then they scored, rebounded a Bradshaw missed three, and hit a three after an offensive rebound to put them up 5 with a minute to play. So it also could be as simple as “they made shots, we didn’t”.

Rocky Top Talk

by Will Shelton on Mar 15, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions

could be

But they really had no business being in that game to begin with. And yes, I also look at George Mason and lament what could have been.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions

eh, Wesleyan theology is crap anyways

:-p

~a Calvinist

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:54 PM EDT reply actions

Trust me, I deal with your type daily

most of the people in my churches only think they’re Wesleyan :)

Rocky Top Talk

by Will Shelton on Mar 15, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions

ironically

many in my church only think they’re Calvinist.

I’m pretty sure that Christian theology has enough paradoxical points that people just hold contradictory beliefs and don’t really think about it, rather than trying to reason out how to solve the paradox. But I’m a philosophy (soon to be PhD) student, so that just bugs me. Thinking ftw! Also, compatibilism ftw! :-p

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm against compatibilism

Eating your own leads to mad cow disease.

Rocky Top Talk

by Joel Hollingsworth on Mar 15, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Joel, you're saying words

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions

I like the idea that the answer to many of our great theological/philosophical either/or questions

could be “both”

Rocky Top Talk

by Will Shelton on Mar 15, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions

I do too

that’s why I’m a compatibilist (although the majority of Christian philosophers and theologians don’t follow me on that, Calvinists and Leibniz being notable exceptions). I just want to actually work out a way in which we can formulate both in a non-contradictory way. Or at least get to the point where we can formulate what the wrong answers are and say that the right answer is a mystery in such and such general direction (see: the doctrines of the Trinity and the Incarnation).

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions

actually, it's my understanding that that's also the Wesleyan approach to the Eucharist

“We’re not Zwinglians, we’re not Catholics, and we’re invoking mystery on the details.” Which I actually think is one of the best ways to approach that problem.

[btw, I know religion is not supposed to be allowed on SBNation, so I’m sorry if that was too much. but nobody else reads this thread, and it’s a lot of meta-level commentary and joking around anyways.]

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions

"God is a mystery"

can be a good friend

Rocky Top Talk

by Will Shelton on Mar 15, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions

definitely

it’s something that I have to remind myself of in philosophy, because we’re so driven as a discipline to actually solve the paradoxes.

I always like to compare God to the concept of infinity. Once you start talking about infinity, you have to say something crazy. You either have to deny that the natural numbers are infinite, or you have to say the rational numbers don’t exist, or you probably have a number of other options. But they’re all insane. If you try to reject the problem in the first place, that has insane consequences. If you try to deal with the problem, all of your options have insane consequences.

I think a lot of things are like this, and God is among them. We have to keep in mind that no matter how we tackle certain inquiries, provided we think through the consequences well enough, something is going to seem awful strange to us. So the invocation of mystery is a good thing to keep in mind.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions

And resurrection qualifies as "something crazy"

Faith in something so mysterious is at the heart of what we do

Rocky Top Talk

by Will Shelton on Mar 15, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions

yep, I can agree with that

I would’ve said incarnation, but that works too.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Question is

Can the Vols resurrect their wayward season? Now that would be a miracle (note: serious conversation averted)!

by VolnVA on Mar 15, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions

it all relates, see!

Rocky Top Talk

by Will Shelton on Mar 15, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions

I could make a joke about Brandi Pearl right now

But that’s just too much, even for me.

Answer: Theoretically possible, but unlikely. I really hope so. But I’m actually more worried right now about the offseason than I am about the tournament. More at stake.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Brandi Pearl, the prodigal daughter?

I’m sure your withheld joke is funny…I just don’t know what it is.

You guys going to Charlotte on Friday? I desperately want to go, but I’m running out of friends and family to turn me down.

by VolnVA on Mar 15, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm in Boston

Actually already have a flight to Raleigh-Durham booked, but it’s not ‘til Sunday. And I’m there for an official visit to UNC, Chapel Hill. So basketball is not in the plans, at least not in person. Beating Duke that day would be so awesome though.

by Incipient_Senescence on Mar 15, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions

This whole conversation started

because I’m going to be stuck in a Wesleyan Theology class during the game, because I’m an idiot and didn’t look at the tournament dates when I scheduled this as an on-campus intensive.

It’s frustrating, cause I’m less than 2 hours from Charlotte, but alas.

Rocky Top Talk

by Will Shelton on Mar 15, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions

And it all comes together some more

I gotcha…I’m trying to decide whether to say “screw it” and go hang out in Charlotte for 2 days by myself or crash with a friend in Chapel Hill and tear up 40/85 for a couple days.

by VolnVA on Mar 15, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions