Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: NFL Players Ready To Welcome Gay Teammate

Do you really want John Calipari to leave?

When the Vols get knocked out of the NCAA Tournament, we immediately turn our attention to spring practice.  When Kentucky goes down, rumors on the future of their head coach are always right there to fill the void.

I'm not here to add to those rumors or to stir that pot - Tennessee fans know better than anybody the stress and wild rumor-chasing that comes with finding a new head coach, and I wouldn't wish that on any fanbase.  The fine folks at A Sea of Blue have been on the 2011 edition of the Calipari rumors since Friday, this time coming from Gary Parrish surrounding the New York Knicks job.

The real selling point in this discussion isn't what Calipari supposedly whispered to someone in a dark room about how he'd love another shot at the NBA and blah blah blah.  But there will be smoke and possibly fire for a number of high profile NBA teams very soon.

There's enough truth in rumors of future openings in at least three major NBA jobs to catch everyone's eye, and Calipari has had enough high-profile success and an incredibly impressive tournament run to make him an obviously attractive candidate to the masses.  The New York Knicks have assembled a team with plenty of pieces, just not any of the ones that Mike D'Antoni's style naturally meshes with.  The Miami Heat, regardless of what happened yesterday, are flaming out in the second round of the playoffs against the Boston Celtics, and when that happens more and more people are going to wonder if Erik Spoelstra is capable of doing the job there.  And this could be it for Phil Jackson, leaving an opening in Los Angeles with his retirement.  Even Doc Rivers could step away for a few years, though simply for my own personal sanity I hope the Celtics don't knock on Kentucky's door twice.  Boston is the team I care about the most after the Vols, and if they hire John Calipari I'm really not sure what that will do to me, but it will probably involve a hospital.

Anyway, you could have the three most attractive NBA jobs open at the end of the year, plus the opening in Miami that is certainly attractive right now.  And because of Calipari's success, these rumors aren't going away for the next several weeks.

But here's my question:  as Tennessee fans, do we really want the rumors to be true?

Star-divide

Two years.  We had all the ingredients for an epic rivalry, and we only got two years out of Bruce Pearl at Tennessee and John Calipari at Kentucky.  The only way Cuonzo Martin is going to get under Cal's skin the way Pearl did is to beat him, and that's a huge to be continued with a giant question mark at the end right now.

But I was so excited when Cal came to Lexington - it was hate consolidation.  Kentucky fans should realize that while most teams in the SEC don't like them because of their success and don't like Cal because of his sparkling personality, Tennessee carries a longer and deeper disdain for that man because of his time at Memphis, and his blatant disrespect for our program during his tenure there. 

Our excitement for Cal in Lexington was built on the fact that we knew Pearl could beat him, going 2-2 against him in the Tennessee/Memphis rivalry and earning the biggest win of their series on the road in the 1 vs. 2 game.  This wasn't like our hatred for Steve Spurrier, Urban Meyer, or even Rick Pitino, guys we didn't like and couldn't beat.  Pearl and Calipari had the best kind of rivalry:  nobody liked anybody, but both sides won.  And Pearl got him again in 2010, beating his 27-1 Kentucky team in Knoxville.  That evened their series at 3-3; the Cats ran an exhausted Tennessee team to death in the SEC Tournament, then swept us this year to make it advantage Calipari overall.

But Pearl still made us believe we could beat a guy we enjoyed hating so much.  I hope Cuonzo can continue to keep the Vols competitive in this rivalry, but the point remains:  there's not a coach in America who could come to UK that we would enjoy beating more than John Calipari.

So I hope he stays.

In the best rivalries, you want the other side to be good.  I want Alabama to be good in football; it's what the Third Saturday in October deserves.  And it's not like Cal came to some johnny-come-lately program and is the sole reason for their success:  Kentucky may fire blanks on a Billy Gillispie every now and then, but generally speaking UK is always going to be good.  If Cal did leave, they would attract the type of coach that could keep them moving forward.

I hope the Vols continue to be good enough to stand and fight against Kentucky.  And I don't think most of us will dislike Kentucky any less just because Calipari likes our new coach more than our old one.  Derek Dooley coached under Nick Saban and is (was?) a good friend of Will Muschamp, and neither fact has changed my feelings about Alabama and Florida an inch.     

If Cuonzo Martin can keep us in the fight against Kentucky - which means, you know, beating them and not just being content to play them close - then we're going to enjoy it more against Calipari than anyone else.  Kentucky will always be good, made the Final Four this year, and should be a Top 5 team next year if the right pieces return.  I hope Cuonzo has the Vols ready to continue the rivalry.  And I hope it's John Calipari on the other sideline when we do. 

Poll
Tennessee fans: what would you like to see John Calipari do?
Stay at Kentucky
300 votes
Leave for the NBA
154 votes

454 votes | Poll has closed

Comment 25 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

If we beat them, it's sweeter with Cal on the sidelines

But our chances of beating them go up when he takes off to the NBA. Sure, they might hire someone who coaches as well in-game. But they won’t hire a better recruiter. There aren’t any. So when Cal leaves, Kentucky’s talent level goes down.

by Incipient_Senescence on Apr 11, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

"...are flaming out in the second round of the playoffs against the Boston Celtics"

How will this happen without Kendrick Perkins, exactly?

::cough::

Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.

by Chris Pendley on Apr 11, 2011 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Unpleasant reality of the last two years:

The “bad story” has been winning titles.

Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.

by Chris Pendley on Apr 11, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I respect the Lakers

I do not respect teams that hold arena celebrations the day after free agent signings instead of the day after championships.

Boston may not win it all, but they’re not going to lose a seven game series to Miami. Won’t happen.

by Will Shelton on Apr 11, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't necessarily referring to the Lakers.

That was more at Duke winning, the Phillies in ’09, Alabama, UConn, and so on.

Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.

by Chris Pendley on Apr 11, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would love for him to leave right now

After everyone had already made their coaching moves.

Sure, they might be successful in throwing cash at Brad Stevens or something, but who else is out there if they aren’t?

"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan

Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.

by VolBrian on Apr 11, 2011 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Furthermore,

The minute old slimy leaves Kentucky, it means that Kentucky is getting ready to vacate a lot of wins…..

"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan

Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.

by VolBrian on Apr 11, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

YEP

rec’d

Schadenfreude: The only thing Vandy fans really have to comfort them when they realize that they are still fans of Vandy.

by ChicagoVol on Apr 11, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I respect Kentucky and want them to do well -- so we can do better ;-)

But I do not want to see John Calipari do well. A guy who is so lenient on punishment as he, a guy who makes an effort to be rude and obnoxious at time (Kentucky fans will wonder somewhat what we mean by this, but they seem to think Cal was born when he became their coach), and a guy who generally has so much disrespect for the game and the great conference he coaches in? Yeah, Pass, please.

______________________________________________
That's (333333jorkland)^2 and $$$$$$$$immons to you, chump.

by bobothevol on Apr 11, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Go, Squid, Go....to New York, or wherever.

The less I have to see his smarmy face the better.

Also, it would have great entertainment value. A new “door watch”, perhaps?

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Apr 11, 2011 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Amazed,

I liked Pearl at Tennessee. Yes, I loved to hate him, just like Pitino at UofL. I dislike both of those guys, but it makes for a good rivalry. Part of the rivalry is this hatred. This is the problem with UT`s new coach, I`m not excited about your new coach. I have no reason to dislike him, I wouldn`t know him if we were face to face. Good luck to you guys, and I hope your new coach gives me no reason to dislike him. GO CATS!!!!

BLUE!!! Is there any other color?

by lancea on Apr 11, 2011 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Lane Kiffin taught us

that it’s much better for opposing fans to dislike your coach for on-field/court reasons first instead of off-field/court quotes. I’m fine with y’all not thinking much of Cuonzo until he beats you…just hope that’s sooner rather than later.

by Will Shelton on Apr 11, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I`m not saying anything bad about him,

I just don`t know much about him. Pearl made it interesting, competitive, and crazy. I liked the orange blazers, hated him when we played you guys, but cheered for you when you were playing someone else. I hope Cuonzo does good things down there, as long as its not against my cats. lol

BLUE!!! Is there any other color?

by lancea on Apr 11, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Cal went to your favorite NBA team (the Celtics)...

I can tell you exactly what you would do. After the shock, you would regard Cal with a completely set of eyes. You would find out every scrap of info the was on any incident in his past, and look favorably on it. Because then and only then would you want to look for the reality of both sides. And if he won? You would love him coaching the Celtics. I say this, because this is the exact same thing many UK fans went through. I’m just saying, when he coaches your team, and does the amazing things he does with a young team, you actually want to believe in him. And for those who choose to look, then there are more than enough reasons to see his side of the story.
At any rate, I was very sad to watch Pearl go. No love lost with UT, but I liked having a rivalry there. I liked Pearl’s willingness to lay it all out there for the school. I thought he took a lot of heat for the zany-ness, but all in all he was great fun and good for the game. Too bad.

by Juan4UK on Apr 12, 2011 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

That's well put on how you view Calipari when he's your coach

difference for me is, Rick Pitino scorched the earth with Boston…no desire to go through that again.

by Will Shelton on Apr 12, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have ourselves a dilemma.......

Do you want the man you hate the most in the world at the school you hate the most in the world all in one spot, as Will said above, consolidating all of your anger into one seething hatred for all that is blue?

Or do you want to win over your most hated rival with regularity? A tough choice, granted.

So it leads me to the next obvious question, what would you think if your Vol grads started playing for a Calipari-coached NBA team? Or does that go without disdain from the friendly folks on ol’ Rocky Top?

As for the opinion from the blue side of things, the coach matters not, the players matter not, but as Will stated above, some people do make it easier to keep the rivalry going.

I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Apr 12, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

We'll have to get more NBA players first

C.J. Watson is the only Vol in the league, which is interesting because he plays on a team with Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah, and Keith Bogans. Tobias will get there, but we haven’t had a good NBA player since Allan Houston.

by Will Shelton on Apr 12, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

You greatly over-estimate your importance.

Sure, we hate your basketball team, but Kentucky is very trivial when it comes to schools we “hate most in the world”.

"I condone fun things" ~~ Cortland Finnegan

Hello ladies. Look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me.

by VolBrian on Apr 12, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean there are teams you guys hate worse than us???

Egad, man……I didn’t think that was possible.

I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Apr 13, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Note on the poll numbers

this poll was at 60/40 in favor of Cal going to the NBA before John Clay and ASOB linked to the story – which we really appreciate, just means that you’ve probably got an influx of UK fans voting in the poll now and throwing it off some.

by Will Shelton on Apr 12, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

And by "some", I mean

reversing the percentages completely in six hours.

by Will Shelton on Apr 12, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

those Kentucky folk...

They’re good at voting in polls.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Apr 12, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about the Tennessee Volunteers.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Gameday_depot_hat_guy_190x190__no_drop_shadow__small
Dooley 2012 Car Decals Now Available
Ilikevols_small
Very inspirational FanPost from me. You're welcome.
Preds_game_small
Best Plays: Exciting or Depressing
N701379423_720742_7509_small
Malik Jackson to the Broncos!
20050073_detail_small
Welcome to Uncertainty, Arkansas Fans
Preds_game_small
Really?!?!? Really?!?!
A_cullen_the_bug_small
NIT Bracket Challenge - Complete before 7pm
Small
Selection Sunday - Where do the Vols Go?
A_cullen_the_bug_small
REPLAY - Anatomy of the Final 5.10 minutes vs Ol Miss
Small
UPDATED - SEC Coach of Year

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

SHOP THE ROCKY TOP TALK STORE

Gameday Depot University Apparel

Animated Drive Charts

RTT Classics

RTT Classics 2008 Animated BlogPoll2007 Animated BlogPollLOL! Your logo is so scary! Welcome to Rocky Top Talk Tradition! Fiddlin' on the Roof2008 Animated BlogPoll The Season of Which We Do Not Speak Pearlfection Case Study: 2QB Systems and the 2005 Tennessee Volunteers The 2007 College Football Blogger Awards The 2006 College Football Blogger Awards The 20 coolest college football logos The 10 worst college football logos The 29 most boring college football logos 2006 Animated BCS Race 2005 Animated Race to the Rose Bowl

YouTube


Editor-in-Chief

Gameday_depot_hat_guy_190x190__no_drop_shadow__small Joel Hollingsworth

Senior Editor

Gromit_small David Hooper

Associated_20press_clayliston_1965_l_small kidbourbon

Tennessee_logo_small Will Shelton

Tumblr_lx1hpdd3yx1r2a42bo1_250_small Chris Pendley

Mutantenemy_small Incipient_Senescence

Ut_small Brad Shepard

Author

Avatar2_small rustytanton

Vols_dooley_hair_small Getoffmyvols

Pygmy_marmoset_small marmotman

Picture_081_small Joseph Stanley

Jackson_the_mule_avatar_small Jackson the Mule

Img_0171_small RockyTopinKY

6156218740_03c5ca84f5_m_small VolnVA

Top_small _trey_

Small Chien Rouge