2011 NFL Draft: The Curious Case of the Spread Option QB
An embarrassing confession: I love spread option football. I love what teams like Auburn and Oregon do (and part of me was fascinated by watching the Ducks run roughshod over Neyland Stadium; I'm not particularly proud of that part, but it's there) with the ball, and I love the skill set that those QBs have to develop. It's not exactly different than anything that's ever been done; option football has been around, and you can trace spread football back to a bunch of different sources, not the least of which are some of the Wing-T basics and other sources that might be worth delving into later.
The skill sets required to be a good spread option QB, on the other hand, don't translate perfectly to the NFL. This is, in essence, the Tim Tebow problem. (The Graham Harrell problem - pass-happy QBs who may have the skills at the next level but who put up discarded stats - is similar, but not quite the same thing.) QB scouting in particular is at best an inexact science; Malcolm Gladwell did a better job with this than I could ever hope to, so start there and I'll be here when you get done.
Ready? Good.
The issue with spread option QBs comes from developed skill sets. In general, spread option QBs are - and should be - better runners than typical pro-style QBs. Running isn't necessarily a skill used as a QB in the NFL, nor is the other obvious skill - being able to read and react quickly to "read" defenders. The simple argument is that these skills don't translate well to the next level, and Nick Fairley's destruction job on the Oregon DT zone read is a good example that NFL acolytes will be trotting out for ages. The argument basically goes like this: because every defender is, well, like Nick Fairley, spread option can't succeed at the next level.
I'm not sure I buy this; that statement has an inherent assumption that in the NFL, defenders are inherently more athletic than skill position players. How does that argument scale? Skill balance should be approximately equal, and if there are defenders good enough to stop typical spread option attacks, then that also shouldn't hold at the edges. Athletes are athletes, but there are guys who are just different. Freaks of nature, even. There should be incredibly skilled WRs who aren't able to be stopped, RBs who can carry 30 times a game and break the 31st, QBs who can throw for 300 and run for 100.
Why yes, I am talking about Cam Newton. It may have taken months for everyone else to figure out what anyone who watched any college football game this season already knew that Newton was a stellar athlete, unparalleled at this level. (And yes, it hurt to type that, but that's how these things go.) He was the NCAA Football No Way Guy - the QB that you can't stop because you've won 7 games in a row on Heisman difficulty and this guy just shows up and trucks your entire front seven at once, all game, and you can't do anything about it. (Aside: I had one of those games involving Knowshon Moreno, who I managed to knock out of the game. Caleb King then came in and then ripped off 2 consecutive TD runs, both of which looked like Marshawn Lynch's run against the Saints. One of those games.) Newton was the guy who made defensive coordinators throw down their controllers and hit the reset button.
How exactly is that skill not going to translate to the highest level? He's good. He's still going to be bigger than half the linebackers he sees, and he's still going to be stronger than a third of the rest. There's no reason that he still can't plow into the line for 4 yards a pop, falling forward one step past the line. There's no reason that his offensive coordinator can't design plays allowed to let him keep the ball.
He may not make it; apparently there are a lot of people out there who think he won't succeed. That's probably the right idea, just by the percentages; more draftees burn out than succeed. (JaMarcus Russell points and nods.) But giving Newton a chance to do what he does best is the only way to determine if he's going to succeed.
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Auburn rotates back onto our schedule in 2013
Surely Malzahn will be somewhere else by then. Surely.
Unhappy coincidence
also back on the schedule in 2013: Oregon.
by Will Shelton on Apr 26, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Some of this I think you've over simplified
While I directionally agree with your idea that Cam will have a physical advantage over a good number of the defenders he faces. This I think is missing the bigger picture.
He’s still going to be bigger than half the linebackers he sees, and he’s still going to be stronger than a third of the rest. There’s no reason that he still can’t plow into the line for 4 yards a pop, falling forward one step past the line.
Defenses will spend hours upon hours finding ways to take away Cam’s fastball. Disguised coverages, blitz’s, zone schemes, he can’t just rely on a being a physical force. On the flip side, yes his offensive coaches will have just as much time to come up with strategy and wrinkles to highlight what Cam does and put him in positions to be successful. The question is does Cam have the ability to take command of a complex, layered offensive game plan. If he can, no doubt he has the physical tools to be elite. I have no idea if he does or not… its a fair question though because at Auburn he admits they were just looking up at signs.
Bring it across, shape it down
I think of him like a rookie phenom pitcher.
He’ll dominate the league until someone has an answer for him. Then everyone has an answer for him, and it’s up to him / his offensive staff to figure it out. I just want his staff to be able to use all his tools instead of just relying on his arm.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 26, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't totally agree
I’m not sure I buy this; that statement has an inherent assumption that in the NFL, defenders are inherently more athletic than skill position players.
Not so much. I think that the assumption (or at least the one I make) is that all other things being equal, defensive lines have an absolute mechanical advantage over the offense; in a match between two sides composed of players equally talented at their respective positions, the offense will be heavily disadvantaged, dependent on breaks and out-scheming (also why pro offenses are hugely complex). Spread offenses are specifically designed for situations not like this, in which superior natural athletes are heavily leveraged against inferior/less well-trained ones.
I would also point out that with running quarterbacks in particular, draft picks are an enormous investment. The three or four-season career average for RBs is an accepted part of the pro game, but I’d imagine you’d really prefer to not deal with that kind of turnover with your quarterbacks if you could at all avoid it, thus at least part of the skepticism towards Tebow-types.
That all being said, I think that it mostly seems like people playing spoiler with all the anti-Cam stuff. The guy is freaking terrifying.
Agreed.
The economics are a completely different story (and probably worth getting into, but at a later date – heck, we have the entire offseason). Honestly, I want to revisit this in a bit – y’all make some great points.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 26, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
You make a great point about D-Lines
Let me run with it real quick. I used to get into almost daily discussions/arguments about college football with a friend and former colleague of mine (this is one guy, to be clear) who is a die-hard michigan fan. Quick aside: in case y’all didn’t already know this, everybody who is a fan of a team not in the SEC absolutely hates hates hates the whole ess eee see speed mantra. My friend is no different. We were always concocting little proposition bets to prove points about our respective teams and conferences. One of those bets was about the number of players the SEC put in the league from each position.
To make a long story short, the only position where the SEC puts an appreciably — like definitely statistically significant — greater amount of players in the NFL is on the defensive line. It’s actually pretty striking. Even a team like UGA, who has been much more “just good” than great or elite, had like 13 d linemen in the league as of when we ran the numbers.
So the D-line is the one position that the ess ee see speed mantra is actually rather provably true.
And you know what, I think I’m gonna do a post on this subject. So nobody steal my idea or I’ll sue you for everything you’re worth. Every. Single. Penny.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
Forget Newton
He’s a physical beast, and NFL scouts always get starry-eyed over crazy measureables. See: JaMarcus Russell.
This seems to be the year where being a spread option QB doesn’t hurt you so much. Newton’s going to be a top pick. TCU’s Andy Daulton, who played in a spread and ran it a fair amount, isn’t a physical specimen yet will go on Day 1. Nevada’s Colin Kaepernick, who spent four years in almost nothing but the spread option Pistol, will also go on Day 1 despite not ever having been terribly accurate before the 2010 season and looking like an angry ostrich when he runs.
Maybe everyone got most of their fury about the spread option out last year on Tebow, or maybe there’s so many of them that the NFL supremacists have just resigned themselves to the fact that they’re not going away. Either way, it seems that the NFL types are making less of a fuss over things this year.
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FWIW, I find Dalton more interesting than Newton.
I’m very curious to see if he’ll make the transition. (Obviously, I’m more curious to see if NFL-types will transition their offenses to account for these new skill sets or continue to hammer these guys into boxes and hope for the best.)
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 26, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem with JaMarcus Russell...
…is that he was never particularly good at the game of football. Every single game I ever saw him play in he would throw one or two of the most inexplicably bad interceptions that’s it’s even possible to throw. Like throwing it straight to the defender with none of his receivers even in the vacinity.
I of course knew about the strength of his arm, figured he would get drafted high as a result, and vociferously predicted that he would be an epic epic flop. And I was right about that one. If I had been a GM of an NFL team I wouldn’t have drafted Jamarcuss Russell in the 7th round.
Newton will not be a flop. Newton will be a solid NFL QB. If I were an NFL GM I wouldn’t have any qualms taking him with the first pick.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
The current zone option hysteria has zero roots in the WingT
Just trust me on that.
by GhostDance on Apr 26, 2011 8:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well
Start here. Zone option probably has more roots in single-wing although I haven’t traced it out, but spread components are there. Meyer’s offense didn’t have roots in the Wing-T, sure, but in this case I was talking about the amalgamation of both.
Strictly zone-read stuff run from under center, sure, that’s divergent. But other components? Sure.
Formerly 'snail. You get used to it after a while.
by Chris Pendley on Apr 26, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
There can be no “zone read” from under center because the QB can’t read with his back turned. I feel like what you’re thinking of is the double slot or double wing option offense, like Georgia Tech. That offense features “end man on line of scrimmage” options, along with midline options (where a B Gap player, or what most people blindly call a ‘3 Technique’ is the option read)…all basic features of say…Chip Kelly’s offense.
The WingT really has no option series…but to today’s younger crowd, it gets looped in there with the double slot option. Explore the roots of the WingT and how it stemmed from the Straight T…and the difference between “slots” and" wings"
by GhostDance on Apr 26, 2011 9:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

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