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Vol Villains Round One: Nick Saban vs. Urban Meyer

The carriers of the modern flame in Tennessee's two biggest rivalries, and they are incredibly good at it.  The two top SEC coaches in the last decade have cast aside good and bad Tennessee teams en route to their championships.  They have all of the success of Steve Spurrier with none of the personality, making UT's futility against them cold and dark, and the vitality of both rivalries has suffered.  But their resumes speak for themselves.

Nick Saban

  • On the sideline for the most heartbreaking loss in the history of Tennessee Football, guiding Matt Mauck and the LSU Tigers to victory in the 2001 SEC Championship Game.
  • Pants on fire:  was not going to be the head coach at Alabama, by his own admission.  Changed his mind in less than two weeks thanks to the soullessly deep pockets of our enemies to the south.
  • Leading a team that would lose to Louisiana-Monroe against a team that would win the SEC East, Saban's 2007 Alabama squad torched the Vols 41-17.  John Parker Wilson and D.J. Hall wrote their names into the Alabama record books, a sentence that still doesn't look right.  This was the worst performance by a John Chavis defense at Tennessee.
  • Won a National Championship in 2009, in part by calling for Maximum Block against the Vols and giving Daniel Moore an excuse to create more "art".
  • His 2010 team executed the biggest Alabama win in the history of Neyland Stadium, 41-10.
  • Signs between 25 and 12357120472 (one for every alleged Alabama National Championship) players every February.  But don't ask him about it.
  • Napoleon had a Nick Saban complex.
  • Record against the Vols:  6-1 (2-1 LSU, 4-0 Alabama)

Urban Meyer

  • Won a National Championship in his second year in Gainesville, which included a 21-20 win in Knoxville led by Chris Leak and Tim Tebow.
  • In 2007, handed Phillip Fulmer the worst loss of his career (and the lives of Vol fans under 30) in a 59-20 beatdown.  To say he ran the score up is an understatement.
  • Perhaps the tipping point of public perception with Fulmer was the 2008 Florida game, in which the Gators kept the Vols out of the end zone held the Vols to six points and once again found success with punt returns.  Most of Urban's success against the Vols has come via special teams, which makes it so much worse.
  • If Lane Kiffin was still the coach here, I'd tell you he tried to cheat to get Nu'Keese Richardson and we still landed him.  Clearly we were the real winners in that battle.
  • When he failed to unleash the fury against the '09 Vols, he accused us of not really trying to win and blamed a minor illness that apparently ravaged his entire roster.
  • He's retiring to spend more time with his kids!
  • He's back!
  • He's losing!...just not to us...
  • He's retiring to spend more time with his kids!
  • He's on ESPN all the time!  And every bit as charming as he ever was!  When will a coach accuse him of being a bad guy and threaten to fight him!
  • It should read, "The Fulmer Cup, Presented by Urban Meyer."
  • Record against the Vols:  6-0.  It's okay, we'll get our shot when he's at Ohio State.

Poll
Who is the greater Vol Villain?
Nick Saban
220 votes
Urban Meyer
223 votes

443 votes | Poll has closed

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It kills me that we’ll never have a shot at payback against this guy. Also, I can’t think of him without thinking of Tim Second-Coming Tebow. Seeing him crying on the sidelines after the SEC Championship game was probably my greatest non-Vols or Packers moment of my football fandom.

I hate losing to Saban, I actively rooted against Meyer. Big difference.

by kingofzachland on May 10, 2011 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

HA

Nothing made me happier on our championship run than destroying the gators in the SEC game. In all honesty.. THAT was the championship game that year… nothing else came close to the level of joy in winning that game… not the BCS, not the Iron Bowl, not even the last second field goal block against you all.

And the best moment of all was watching tebow cry….. :)

RTR

Looking forward to playing a better Vols team this year guys !

by lastmilefire on May 10, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a Vol, but if this were me...

It would be Meyer, hands down. Saban is an a-hole, and he’s ethically dubious. However, kind of like Spurrier, you know what you’re getting with Saban. He doesn’t hide anything. Meyer, on the other hand, plays off this sanctimonious persona while doing various ethically dubious things.

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by Gamecock Man on May 10, 2011 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Saban.

Meyer at least gave me some quality comedy (albeit mostly of the future tight end, everyone’s smoking out in the sauna room variety). Saban is basically Process jokes and that’s about it.

by Chris Pendley on May 10, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Meyer, pretty easily

Meyer is just horrible. Condescending, snide, and generally unfit for the company of decent folk.

Saban I actually kinda like. If nothing else he at least fits with the long tradition of Alabama coaches resembling this guy:

I’m looking at you, Gene Stallings.

by _trey_ on May 10, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm surprised

Meyer is everything you guys have accused him of being, but he never beat a Tennessee team that was going anywhere. Saban, on the other hand, prevented us from starting a dynasty and was probably the tipping point that ended the greatest stretch of UT football that we’ll probably ever see in our lifetimes.

Also, I’ve gone to every Alabama game since 2006…UT’s record = 1-4. The coach for the 1? Not Saban. And I might never experience such a violent swing of emotions as I did at the 2009 game. Brutal…absolutely brutal.

by VolnVA on May 10, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I voted for Saban...

simply based on him being a better coach… He’ll still be a pain in the butt even if we rebuild back to being a top ten program.

But Meyer was a sanctimonious prick who paraded Saint Tebow around like Florida was the city with streets paved in gold… while conveniently ignoring the less lovable and considerably more violent version of Animal House going on behind the curtain.

by Caban on May 10, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Saint Tebow was all Meyer's doing.

Most popular media outlets were entirely willing to deity glorify Tebow’s exploits.

by Chris Pendley on May 10, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the 2008 Florida game

They did not keep the Vols out of the end zone. We scored a touchdown and then failed on a 2 point conversion (I have no idea why we tried for 2). The 6 points was our final score.

by dmiles on May 10, 2011 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

At the time

it was 24-6, meaning that if we had converted, scored two more touchdown and two…eh never mind.

I’m really surprised this vote is this close.

by kingofzachland on May 10, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is some serious ballot stuffing...

from the Bama folks… this wasn’t even close earlier.

by Caban on May 10, 2011 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Our stuff goes to SI's links on each team page

and we caught a bunch of traffic from Alabama’s page today – poll stays open til Friday, we’ll keep an eye on it, may balance back out by then.

by Will Shelton on May 10, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

And here I thought it was just my persuasive argument earlier

I’ll continue to tell myself that my well-reasoned, logical approach swayed the voters and helped Saban to make up his early 30-vote deficit ;-)

by VolnVA on May 10, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the problem with democracy

…Alabama comes along and screws the whole thing up.

by kingofzachland on May 10, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I dislike Nick Saban

I hate with a fiery, burning passion Urban Meyer.

Florida Sucks!

by Orange Swarm on May 10, 2011 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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