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Scotty Hopson: With or Without You

There's an old saying about assumptions, and I will happily apply it to myself if we're all wrong and Tobias Harris ends up returning to Knoxville for another year.  But it seems more likely every day that the right move will be for Harris to go pro:  ESPN.com's Chad Ford says Tobias "may have been the most underrated prospect we discussed during the season."  Ford says Tobias has a legitimate chance to become a lottery pick (one of the Top 14 selections); his entire writeup is available to ESPN Insiders here.  Andy Katz is one of many local and national media who expect Tobias to leave his name in the draft when Sunday's deadline arrives.

Tobias is currently projected to go 16th in the latest mock from Draft Express, and is also the 16th overall player in ESPN's Top 100.  All signs point to the NBA.

Scotty Hopson, true to form, is much more mysterious.

In the same links above, Hopson is the second round pick of the Boston Celtics (woo!) in the mock from Draft Express; while I'd love to see Hopson go to Boston, that also puts him just five spots away from not being drafted at all.  In ESPN's Top 100 Hopson is 42nd overall - again, should be drafted, but probably not in the guaranteed money of the first round.  Ford recommends that Hopson return to Knoxville, while Katz puts Scotty in a group of six players that GM's are most unsure whether they will ultimately stay or go.

When Hopson came to Knoxville as a McDonald's All-American, our expectations were set so high right away that it feels like he has always struggled to reach them.  As such, it seems easy for some Tennessee fans to be indifferent to Hopson's decision to stay or go.

But Tennessee's roster takes exception to your indifference.   

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Not only does Scotty Hopson need to come back for his own sake, the absence of Tobias Harris and Chris Jones means the Vols need Hopson to return, badly.  There are a number of ways Hopson could get better, but none as significant as how much better the 2011-12 Vols would be with him than without him.

Say what you will about Hopson's play, but I also remember being among a large group of people who had some issues with the way J.P. Prince played while he was here...and then noting repeatedly how much we missed him this year.  If Hopson leaves, those conversations will take place at a highly increased rate next season when we're wondering why we can't score any points.

Because if Hopson goes pro, who is the leading scorer for the Vols next season?

Logic suggests Cameron Tatum, but he struggled so much in the second half of the year just trying to be the third option last year.  After Tatum's 8.8 points per game last season, you have to go all the way down to Skylar McBee and Trae Golden's 3.0 points per game to find the next highest returning scorer.  And it's incredibly unfair to ask Kenny Hall or Jordan McRae to step in and immediately become the top scoring option.  Martin's brand of basketball sounds like one that will be committed to effort on the defensive end and not turning it over on the offensive end - interestingly, perhaps the two things Hopson needs to work on the most - but you've got to have somebody who can put the ball in the basket.  Ask Kevin O'Neill.

While the Vols are not guaranteed to be an NCAA Tournament team if Hopson returns, they almost certainly are not one without him.  Much of Cuonzo Martin's fate will be tied to the 2012 recruiting class, and the Vols will always have an easier time on the recruiting trail if their product is good.  If Hopson returns, there is at least some hope that Tennessee can continue to move forward without going through a significant, multi-year dropoff. 

The "without you" part of this would look at Hopson and see a player who has missed every workout with the new coaching staff.  You'd give him a pass if not for Tobias, who is much more of a sure thing in the draft but still found time to workout with the Vols and the new staff.  Scotty Hopson is allowed to do what he believes to be best for him, but the fact that he hasn't really been a part of Tennessee's program since Cuonzo Martin's press conference also makes it easier for fans to turn their backs on him.

But it seems clear that the best possible outcome for both Scotty Hopson and Tennessee is #32 returning for his senior season.  Will Hopson (and the people around him) have enough sense to see it?  And if they do, will Tennessee fans have enough sense to appreciate it?

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PG – Golden, Washpun
SG – McBee, McRae
SF – Tatum, Richardson
PF – Maymon, Woolridge
C – Hall

There are two 2-star recruits who will be primary backups in this scenario. But even if Hopson returns, our front court is extremely thin (and that’s counting Woolridge as a PF!!). Their improvement from last year will be crucial.

by golfballs03 on May 5, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Hall is going to be one of the surprises next year

Hindsight is 20/20 but looking back the John Fields transfer didn’t really help the team. I would argue that the biggest impact of Field’s spot in the rotation was a delay in Kenny Hall’s development. I think he’s got the most to prove and his play will suit Martins style.

Bring it across, shape it down

by Getoffmyvols on May 5, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree on Hall

but he was also injured at the beginning of the season, and that set him back too.

by golfballs03 on May 5, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No...

…Tennessee fans will not appreciate it.

When it comes to Scotty (even more so than JP!), Tennessee fans see all of the negative and none of the positive.

by spiritofthehill on May 5, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Great article

I really would’ve loved to see Tobias coming back (really? Hall and Maymon are our only posts?), but we need something to keep the product semi-respectable while CCM hits the recruiting trail. Does anyone really expect that Tatum, Golden, Hall, or McRae will carry the team?

by Incipient_Senescence on May 5, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I have been completely baffled..

by all the people who seem to think losing Scotty would not be a big deal. Losing your leading scorer is a big deal! I also hate how he is dogged by people thinking he has a “bad attitude”. He’s a great kid, and I’ve seen him becoming both a better player and a more mature player with each year he has been here. Some players need more time to become complete players, and I don’t think that is a bad thing. If he stays for his senior season, he will still only be 21 years old. I’m pretty sure I wasn’t a finished product emotionally when I was 21. If there wasn’t any progress over the past three years, that would be a bad sign, but his improvement has been steady, and he could reach his full potential with one more year under Coach Martin.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on May 5, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Expectations

They were unrealistic, but they weren’t his fault. Fans need to get over it. I think he is a good kid, and it would definitely hurt to lose him. I hope he comes back.

by golfballs03 on May 5, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's hard for me to support someone fully who quits on his team

I’ve heard many people say how good of a kid Scotty is, and I am not knocking that one bit. This post is only about his basketball playing abilities. I also see his potential and how at times he is without a doubt the best player on the court..he has flashes of brilliance.

What I can’t stand is this crap where he misses one or two shots and then he’s done for a half..you can literally tell he is not in the game and almost like he gives up for 10 – 20 minutes and if we’re lucky he gets his confidence back by the end of the half. This wasn’t just once or twice his has happened either. It frustrates me that he’s not a great defender/passer/rebounder but I can forgive that if he was a more consistent scorer. Great kid or not, you just don’t give up on a game cause you missed a few shots. I for one won’t miss him if he goes.

by Solid Orange on May 5, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

it is frustrating

but don’t you think that’s exactly the sort of thing a coach like Cuonzo Martin is perfectly equipped to deal with?

by Incipient_Senescence on May 5, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess we watched different games.

Because I never saw a game where he “quit”. Well, come to think of it, I watched all of them. It sort of amazes me how people see what they have a preconceived notion that they are going to see.

Quit is a strong word.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on May 5, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only saw a player quit once this year...

and that was everyone BUT Tobias against Michigan.

Getting frustrated at yourself is kinda the opposite of quitting

by Caban on May 5, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

I think, at times, he tried too hard and was forcing things

by golfballs03 on May 5, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That doesn't even seem like a real game to me.

Weird, I know, but it doesn’t.

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on May 5, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scotty has the wrong people whispering in his ear

The “advisor” is promoting Scotty so he’s accentuating the positive and ignoring Hopson’s weaknesses, but this stuff is ridiculous:

Marshall said he believes Hopson would get selected in the first round of the NBA draft June 23, which would mean he would get a guaranteed contract.

"At the end of the day, I like his chances,’’ said Marshall, who previously served as an advisor for Los Angeles Laker player Andrew Bynum. "Scotty’s a prototypical NBA two-guard; he has the athleticism of any two guard in the draft, he has the wingspan, he can shoot the ball, he can defend the wing, the point guard and swing players.’’

NBA analysts have expressed concern about the 6-foot-6 Hopson’s lack of consistency in published pre-draft reports.

"The naysayers aren’t the ones writing the checks,’’ Marshall said. "Was the (Tennessee) program consistent? I don’t think it was. I think they had up and downs. They won against top-five teams, and they lost against some teams at the bottom of the barrel.

"Inconsistency breeds inconsistency.’’

Marshall said "everyone knows that in another year, Scotty is a lottery pick.’’

Telling Hopson that he’s a lock for guaranteed money when NONE of the draft services have him rated that way isn’t good advice from the advisor.

Blaming the program for Hopson’s inconsistent performance last year doesn’t really explain why he scored well in one game and then disappeared in the next. Might it have more to do with someone playing him physically or getting in his head? Yes.

Scotty isn’t a “lock” as a lottery pick next year unless he gets his head straight. Some hard work on fundamentals (driving without getting stripped); actually playing defense consistently enough to get steals and deflections – not even asking for lock-down defense; and, mental toughness to be consistent night-in and night-out as the LEADER of the team – consistent when no one else is?. Those attributes show you are ready for the NBA. Scotty is NOT a lottery pick unless he improved his game.

I don’t agree that Scotty quit on anyone. He got outplayed and out-toughed in several games as he disappeared at critical times for long stretches but I don’t think he quit. He has talent. Does he have the heart?

Hey, bad guys. Look up in the sky. See the UAV? Nope? We see you. "Don't laze me, bro'!"

by memphispete on May 5, 2011 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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