Mike Hamilton Set to Resign at 11 AM
by Chris Pendley on Jun 7, 2011 9:55 AM EDT
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PrintWBIR and several other sources are reporting that Mike Hamilton is set to resign as Tennessee's athletic director at 11 AM today. This broke early this morning, and additional details are still all over the place and flowing in; they'll likely be coming in for weeks. Between the coaching upheaval across three of UT's major four sports - baseball, football, and men's basketball (women's basketball is, thankfully, safe under the watchful eyes of Joan Cronan and Miss Pat for the near future) - this could easily be a writing-on-the-wall situation. Incidentally, this feels like a precursor to an additional move, or set of revelations, or something else happening behind the scenes that we may not be aware of yet.
Sports Animal will be carrying the press conference - this stream should work.
The timing here is unfortunate and more than a bit strange. Opinion on Hamilton is (somewhat obviously) split at this point; for all the good things Hamilton brought to Tennessee, the last few years haven't been fun off the field. We'll worry about potential replacements later; the timing here screams that something's hitting somewhere, and it's not minor. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
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I don't like Hammy, but this scares me for a couple reasons
First, coming right before the NCAA hearing might mean he knows we’re in worse trouble than anybody expected. That’s bad.
Second, Dooley and Cuonzo aren’t the new AD’s guys. You’d hope that whoever it is has the sense to give them a chance, since they’re building out of turmoil, but you never know. On the plus side that we don’t care about (much), the new guy is the one hiring the baseball coach.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions
I'm still adjusting to the news here.
Not sure it means we’re toast in front of the NCAA (this may be internal – see the Hamilton/Cheek dynamic, maybe?). I’m still thinking it’s too early to do much beyond naval gazing.
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by Chris Pendley on Jun 7, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
true enough
Also, as Wes Rucker points out, we now have to hire a new AD before the NCAA ruling comes back. That means it almost has to be a promotion from within. Please not Fulmer.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
AD Bruce Pearl
BHAHAHAHA!
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by kingofzachland on Jun 7, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
If they hire Fulmer as the AD..
…I will strongly consider tendering my fanhood resignation.
Seriously…that would be ridiculous on every conceivable level.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
agree. . . at least with the second line
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I think if you can
you don’t really have fanhood
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
None for me
I flirt with various mistresses in the pro ranks, but Tennessee is my bride.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
some scenarios probably do
if the university kills your firstborn, for instance.
but I don’t think you can do it just because you’re frustrated with mismanagement
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha!
The university was sheltering Bin Laden. He went unnoticed for years at Ray’s place.
Okay, that was mean.
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by kidbourbon on Jun 7, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
mean. . . but hilarious
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I know...
…Ray was such a sweet guy, though.
Is his store still open?
...just apologize for not thanking me.
Ray is still there!
He’s even expanded his store to have hot foods now. Don’t worry, Ray is still there.
by JustaStudent on Jun 7, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
they had hot food when I was there
it was like a daily special. the lasagna was always good.
when they didn’t have that I’d always go with the roast beef sandwich.
The timing scares me as well
However, this could still be fallout from the Pearl debacle. Or they wanted a new AD to handle hiring the new baseball coach. Or any other number of reasons. As Chris said, we’ll just have to wait and see.
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by kingofzachland on Jun 7, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
so much for the quiet summer
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions
this is all Will's fault
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by Chris Pendley on Jun 7, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to Haiti next week
if this isn’t settled before then, the way things have been going around here we’ll either make the best or the worst hire in the history of college athletics while I’m gone. I only offer the best as an option because, I mean, aren’t we due?
This
…so this.
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by kingofzachland on Jun 7, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Hammer to be dropped on us in
3, 2….
by GhostDance on Jun 7, 2011 10:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
JOAN CRONAN FOR AD
Seriously though. I don’t buy the idea that the NCAA is gonna hammer us. Especially not in football. I think we’re safe there thanks to Blackburn.
I also do not really buy the whole timing thing being an issue. I seriously doubt this whole thing developed from scratch this morning. there is most certainly a plan in place to get someone in and proceed through the hearing. If I’m wrong, then everyone above Hamilton needs to be gone as well. Everyone. They are all unfit to even flip burgers if this is a complete surprise.
Maybe Condredge Holloway.
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when I say "hammer," I mean "basketball hammer"
I keep forgetting football is even on trial.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Heard Damon Evans
was spotted at the Victoria’s Secret in West Towne and has property in the area.
by GhostDance on Jun 7, 2011 10:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 6 recs
heh
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I think this was just a matter of time
from what I hear there were money issues too… revolving around the recent facility upgrades.
Anyway, I don’t think this necessarily has any significance as it relates to the NCAA’s hearing. The fact that three of his coaches went down in flames over such a short period was probably enough.
I think they’ll probably hire someone close to UT. Not sure how I feel about that… but given the track record of the big wigs at UT, I don’t have a whole lot of confidence.
I hope football emerges relatively unscathed, but
Let’s not forget about “Hostessgate”. The NCAA has evidence that the two ladies who traveled to recruits’ high school games did so under the football hierarchy’s direction. I think this will be a key accusation in Indy. David Reaves is a wild card in this process. Will he aid UT in throwing Kiffin under the bus? I’ve read that the NCAA may have put the screws to him, threatening to ruin his career unless he gives up every piece of potentially damning information he can.
The placement of David Blackburn as a buffer to Kiffin’s transgressions will hopefully shed light on the administration’s attempts to curb the questionable recruiting tactics used by the “Chimera”.
Due to the unpredictable nature of the NCAA and their selective enforcement of violations, I think UT is going to be hit hard in both football and basketball. I could see the football program getting perhaps 45 scholly reduction over 3 years with a 2-year postseason ban. For basketball, scholly reductions of some sort and a tournament ban could be coming as well. I wonder if that is why Coach Martin tried to load up on bodies this spring.
Fare thee well, Hamilton. Hope Cheek and his merry band hit a home run with this hire.
45 scholarships and a 2 year ban?
You do realize that is worse than what USC got right? And they paid out more than $150,000 to athletes.
We may get hit just a bit in football, but it’s not going to be anywhere near the apocalypse you just suggested.
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by VolBrian on Jun 7, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This doesn't scare me
Athletic Directors don’t resign because of pending NCAA violations. There’s no such thing as a show-cause for the AD, and the NCAA can neither put ya in jail nor collect punitive damages from your personal bank account.
If Tennessee gets hammered by the NCAA, what was the worst thing that was gonna happen to Hammy? Another negative article in the KNS? Oh, my, I just don’t know how he would ever cope.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
obviously the NCAA wasn't going to penalize Hamilton
I was thinking more along the lines of “oh crap, the NCAA is going to hit UT hard, better get out now”
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
But why would he care?
It’s not gonna hurt his future job prospects. I mean, if his future job prospects are hurt…then the ship already sailed.
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You make a good point...
But I don’t think I agree that there’s no such thing as a show cause for ADs.
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by birdjam on Jun 7, 2011 10:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Birdjam was right
kidbourbon was wrong.
Corrected, I stand: http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/24031/precedent-indicates-show-cause-for-pearl
The wild card with Pearl, of course, is the eight-game suspension. Slive’s proactive and unprecedented move separates Pearl from the norm. Some of the parties in the other cases already had been fired — though in one case, an athletic director still received a show cause — but none had been punished quite like Pearl.
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For the record
Chancellor Cheek is not a UF grad, he just worked there. I sincerely hope you don’t think he took the job at UT to ruin Tennessee’s football program. I’m really tired of hearing people keep talking about Chancellor Cheek and Dr. DiPietro having connections to Florida as one big conspiracy again UT. I’ve personally met both and feel confident that they have the University’s best interest in mind.
by JustaStudent on Jun 7, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for sanity
Bring it across, shape it down
by Getoffmyvols on Jun 7, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Cheek has Cheek's best interests in mind.
He’s part of the generally incompetent leadership at UT that hasn’t even been able to hire a worthwhile President for at least ten years now.
Let's not forget
Cheek himself has only been on campus for a few years. In that time he has done a lot of good things for UTK as a whole, including putting us on a path to become a Top 25 Institution nationwide. Athletics are EXTREMELY important, but there not the only thing going on. Let’s not forget also the Dr. DiPietro has only been on the job for a few months to this point. Saying he won’t be a worthwhile President is making an awful hasty judgement. I’ve personally met him and know many people who have worked with him through the Institute of Agriculture for years and they all believe he will do a great job. Give the guy some time and I think he will lead UT very well. Believe what you want to believe, but I personally have no doubt that either one has only the University’s best interest in mind.
by JustaStudent on Jun 7, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
We've "been on the path"
since I was an undergrad, 21 years ago. I’ll believe it when I see it. Nothing in the past ten years (and that includes being employed there) makes me believe that UT is run by anyone who even vaguely approaches competetency.
I'm going to sound like a real douche here...
but I don’t think it’s the job of the land grant universities to attempt to compete with the Vanderbilts and Stanfords of the world in these nebulous rankings. I was there at two different periods, in the late 90s and the mid to late 2000s… and the only difference I noticed was a MUCH higher tuition, even less parking, lower quality meals since they hired Aramark, fewer paid employees in Circle Park… and the air conditioners that needed to be fixed in 1999 were now generally totally broken.
I think the Ivory Tower folks should be less concerned with the students they want, and a little more concerned with the students they have.
I agree that we don't need to be like Vandy,
but I don’t think that’s necessarily where they’re trying to go with it. I might have misspoken about wanting to be in the top 25 national, it might be top 25 public universities, but it’s still not a bad thing. We are currently ranked in the top 50 public universities, but we’re also behind schools like Georgia, Florida State, Kentucky, and Michigan. I don’t think the goal is to be like Vandy or Stanford, but just to improve within our realm.
I’m a student at UT now, and I know sometimes the administration can be frustrating to deal with, but I believe we’re heading in the right direction. This might not be the right place for this conversation, but I feel good about where we’re heading. There are problems, but there’s always going to be some. Anyways, we’re all on the same here and we all wish nothing but the best for UT, so GO VOLS!
I don't know,
Ohio State, MIT, Cal, even Florida, and a great load of other land grant universities do pretty well competing with Vanderbilt and Stanford. I think it’s really tragic that UT isn’t really classed with them most of the time. it’s one of the oldest universities in the country, has a partnership with a major national lab, and plenty of quality researchers and scholars. Cheek’s job is really to mobilize that, not to take care of football or basketball.
Unfortunately, those rankings (like US News and World Report, infamously), aren’t really that nebulous. They’re just lots of ways of measuring the size of a school’s endowment, which in UT’s case just isn’t big enough because it’s never really been a priority in Nashville.
Sorry, I guess this is a pet issue.
I don't think there's any conspiracy
but I am worried about him making athletic decisions that he’s not qualified to make. He needs to have an excellent team on this hire.
I agree completely
If it was just him making the decision I wouldn’t be so excited about it, but I feel confident that he is going to surround himself with the best sports minds he can find to get the best candidate.
My thoughts
I’m going to hold off on celebrating until I find out who’s replacing him. I’ve learned as a Vol fan the last five years to be careful what I wish for.
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by birdjam on Jun 7, 2011 10:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm trying to decide
If I should, laugh scream or cry.
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Ok Folks, what's the short list for the position?
And, no, I am not here to gloat, just want to get an idea where UT might be headed with the hire.
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Jun 7, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions
Mark Cuban owns property in Knoxville.
...just apologize for not thanking me.
by kidbourbon on Jun 7, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cuban would try to hire Calipari.....lol.....and I know you dont want that......lol
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Jun 7, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
And it'd be worth it
UK fans know it’s coming eventually, but they know it’s worth it. I can’t blame them on that front. Coach Cal may be a lot of things, but he will get you to the top, and quickly.
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RED FLAG RED FLAG
I’ve heard something like that before, and it ended up being a 7-6 record and herpes we’re now dealing with. NOT WORTH IT.
______________________________________________
That's (333333jorkland)^2 and $$$$$$$$immons to you, chump.
Who knows? Maybe we can throw 5 mil at Saban. He's a sucker for that.
Not a subtle dig, so I’ll throw in the ;-)
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Spelling is apparently irrelevant too...
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I think zachland nailed it in the previous thread.
We’ll just have to watch the
to see what happens.
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by Chris Pendley on Jun 7, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I think I will probably rec this everytime I see it regardless of subject matter.
It’s just that good.
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by VolBrian on Jun 7, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Nobody has any clue right now.
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by birdjam on Jun 7, 2011 11:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
thanks for the lone sensible response....lol.....
but hey, it can’t be easy for you folks right now, so its understood
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Jun 7, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I will add to nobody having a clue
that the initial expectation is hiring a UT guy, since it’s hard to hire externally when the NCAA penalties haven’t been doled out yet
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Either that
or we’re going sans AD for a while.
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by Chris Pendley on Jun 7, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
any chance Dooley could do double duty?
or, and this will be a first, But, what about Summitt?? She could give instant crdibility to the position…..
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Jun 7, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
at this level, I don't think one person can pull double duty
although our women’s AD is actually pretty good. she may take over both, at least on an interim basis. But this is a blind guess
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
We have split ADs.
I don’t think Summitt would do that, since it’d be more likely Joan Cronan pulls double duty first and that’s not happening.
As far as Dooley: doubt it. Highly doubt it.
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by Chris Pendley on Jun 7, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Although if she retired from coaching, I would fully support Pat Summitt as the men's AD
...just apologize for not thanking me.
I do too
I just don’t know how attractive the job is with the penalties unknown and a couple green coaches already in place
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Makes it more attractive
We have nowhere to go but up. The AD will get some (undeserved) credit when we do.
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are they streaming the presser?
or are you actually on the radio? if the former. . . link?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Wish i could stream it.
FULMERIZED you Corporate Firewall Block!
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thank you and go Vols!
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
Say what you will about his qualifications as AD (and I certainly have)...
But the dude is a class act.
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by birdjam on Jun 7, 2011 11:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
definitely
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
"why a few days before the hearing"
“I’ve been contemplating it over the last few months, as a possibility. . . we can go in to the committee with a clean slate. . . prayed about and thought about.”
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions
needs to spend more time with the fam
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions
plans to take some time off before finding a new job
and then will shoot for another AD job
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions
Thanks for the feed
I’m dying out here LOL
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by Joseph Stanley on Jun 7, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Cheek:
He was not forced out, but I did not try to talk him out of it. Hammy proposed his own resignation
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions
UT beat twitter:
“Hamilton was not feces out” damn auto-correct
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
Cheek:
was pleased with Mike. want stability and want somebody to build on the strong foundation that already exists. move aggressively forward, be a better place in the future
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
Hammy:
wanted to leave before the infractions meeting so it doesn’t look like I resigned because it went poorly. doesn’t think it will be a negative for UT. will still be there representing UT’s interests in the best way he knows how
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions
I'd be the first
To dance on Hammy’s exit as he goes out the door.
But I will say that I would hope that John Adams does not have so much influence that he can oust a AD. Thats a disturbing thought and a even more disturbing precedence.
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by Joseph Stanley on Jun 7, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
he said John Adams, Mark Wiedmer, Dave Climer
just that a lot of turmoil was swirling around
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Still
As openly critical as I am of Hammy, I think it was Oscar Wilde who said “In America the President reigns for Four Years, but Journalism reigns forever and ever”
Point being someone, like me, will always be critical, but that doesn’t mean we are right.
Hrmpf. Don’t take my comments too seriously on this aspect. Sort of typing out y thoughts. Probably would have been better if I had heard the stream. But thank you just the same IS :)
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by Joseph Stanley on Jun 7, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I was out and missed all the fun this morning
and so I’m not sure if Hamilton or Cheek said this, but either way it’s alarming. Wouldn’t want them saying, “Seemed like the tea leaves were against me on RockyTopTalk.com” either.
Exactly
Pretty much where I was going with my thought train. Gives us a looking glass with which to view ourselves and our work, no?
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by Joseph Stanley on Jun 7, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
good things are on the horizon
Derek Dooley will be successful. Cuonzo Martin will be successful. Pat is already successful. UT will have success, and I (hammy) thought I could help by stepping down and ending the turmoil
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
Mike has talked to baseball candidates and let them know what's up
but he will hand it over to the interim AD
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions
Cheek:
every time you have an opening you go nationwide and find the very best person for the position available. We’re a very attractive institution for an AD. We have great facilities, great coaches, great fans, great students. We want the best guy who will come here.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
timetable:
before football season begins. not before the penalties are handed out
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
never mind
maybe before penalties are handed out because NCAA is dragging their feet. Hammy: length of investigation is problematic
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Hammy:
one of the biggest punishments is having the cloud of investigation hanging over their heads for such a long time
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
So he is calling out the NCAA?
Perhaps this resignation is so he can speak freely at the investigation/hearing/interview/what have you?
Perhaps he intends to unload on the NCAA?
Interesting theories, but just random thoughts nothing more from my view
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by Joseph Stanley on Jun 7, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
he didn't say "dragging their feet"
but Cheek did say that every timeline given by the NCAA is longer than had been anticipated, and Hammy said that the length of the investigation was a punishment in itself. so they aren’t being too friendly
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats interesting
Any one else find it odd that Dooley went to the NCAA to sway for more coaches (which I understand they did not let him speak) then Cheek and Hamilton call out the NCAA on their investigations?
Are we just trying to kick the hornets nest here? Or am I just imagining things because I’ve been staring at too many spreadsheets the last few weeks? :P
BloodSpite
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football." John Heisman
by Joseph Stanley on Jun 7, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they're just trying to bring obvious problems to the NCAA's attention
and hope that the NCAA will actually do something about it. I don’t think that polite and well-reasoned criticism would hurt the penalties. At least you’d hope not
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
BloodSpite
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football." John Heisman
by Joseph Stanley on Jun 7, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Cheek:
we’ll have a search committee and will search wherever we need to, but I will make the final decision.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
Grunfeld would be a great choice
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Borrowed this from a post by jc001 over at EDSBS
A metaphor for the Mike Hamilton era in Tennessee
"People who say that violence is not the answer are not applying the correct amount of violence." -- blanx73
Hamilton fired? I'm just glad to see so many comments on a post!
Sigh..I miss football…
PR, PR, PR
Apptitude for Public Relations should be at the top of the job requirements for the next hire.
Cheek and DiPietro hold a meeting in the renovated AD building
WIth the new baseball coach
by Caban on Jun 7, 2011 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Now Hyams is reporting that the football program is going to get slammed by the NCAA
I really hope that, as usual, Hyams is wrong. But the timing of all of this makes me more than a little nervous.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
agreed
Hyams said, iirc, several years of probation and likely a year postseason ban, in addition to scholarship reductions. Probation isn’t a big deal, but the postseason ban would cut out that invaluable bowl practice. And of course scholarship reductions are the big thing. We’ve finally just gotten up towards the 85 limit after all of the attrition; it would suck to go back down again. You’d hope the NCAA would take into account that Kiffin’s departure basically put us to severe penalty-level scholarship numbers, but I doubt they will.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
New information to come out?
Or is the NCAA still in their “set an example” kick?
If we get slammed like that, and the offenses all occurred in the single season where Kiffin was the head coach… I’m going to be fuming if he is allowed to continue coaching anywhere.
the rumor is
that the NCAA has a signed receipt proving that Reaves paid for Hostessgate. Which, first of all, would prove that Kiffin & Co is way dumber than I thought. Secondly, I still can’t imagine any penalties approaching Southern Cal. We didn’t pay players, and we weren’t tagged with lack of institutional control. They were, on both counts.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Trogans*
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This strikes me as implausible...
..both as a) the penalties seem a tad excessive, and b) if Hyams has some way of accurately divining the internal logic of the NCAA infractions board, he needs to quit midmarket sports radio broadcasting and get into horseracing or hog futures or something.
also
Hyams has a slight tendency to be wrong about everything.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
aaaaannnnnd now he's dithering, saying he'd be shocked SHOCKED! if there was a postseason ban.
He really doesn’t know anything more than anybody else.
One more thing, along the lines of this being excessive
that I had forgotten when I posted this:
If I recall correctly, we weren’t hit with lack of institutional control or failure to monitor (in football). Hefty penalties without either charge seems awful strange.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure that's correct.
Kiffin specifically is accused of failure to monitor, but that apparently didn’t extend our football program (though the BB/Pearl situation is different, obv.)
Totally agree
particularly a postseason ban seems out of the norm based on the lack of those two charges
Hubbs chimed in
saying that—barring a bombshell—UT football will get probation, recruiting restrictions, and one lost scholarship for two years. That’s more along the lines of what I was expecting.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 7, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Literally
One of the funniest things I’ve read on the Internet. Only because it’s true.
by GhostDance on Jun 7, 2011 11:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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